This song seems written by Lisa. Honestly I think that she never could forget Michael, I hope that she can to live happy, I wouldn't like be in her shoes.
her story changes all of sudden she finally cares about him after his death,he deserved some one who truly cared about him. even though there marrige didnt work out atleast she could of been a friend, he even cried out for help from her even crying and she basicaly turned his back on him. she said that he called her one day and told her that he felt that some one was going to try to kill him, i cant believe after that phone call she didnt have the heart to be there for him or help him.
And we don't know what all the reasons were for sure either. Could be addiction issues & memories of her father, dif. of opinion on timing, his ugly inner circle, MsPrissy, her rumored miscarriage and other medical issues we've been hearing about. But... How many girls have we seen MJ hold hands with CONSTANTLY... and KISS in public. HELLO. As shy as he was THAT was no small thing!
I used to be a portrait photographer; it's all in eye contact & touching. A photg. knows. As they say; the eyes are the windows of the soul. Neither one of them were so happy or smiled as much as when they were together. Some people just can't accept their relationship. There were too many people messing around in that marriage. Like Michael said; why can't they just let me/us be happy...
@msangel, Icall him that because it seems like every picture that I see of them together has Lisa walking ahead of ML, and him following obediently behind her carrying her stuff!
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@crazzy Ludwig how is dat bitch mikes widow??? she divorced him in 1995 and never looked back until she was forced to in those interview in 2003 and 2007 where she basically bashed him like he wasn't even human!!! This woman is a loser and probably has regreted the way she treated him and she deserves to regret it 4 her whole miserable fuckin life-dats my opinion
@TheKkmusic09 opinion ? it's not an opinion they are just ugly insults towards a person you never met you can't judge her you don't know her if you don't like her why are you on here ? leave her alone and stop insulting her hater !
Yeah she calls her present husband (and pack mule) Lockwood, after all there is only one Michael for Lisa or any of us for that matter. I hope that she is learning to live with her loss, because there was serious unfinished business there. She is Michael's widow, and I pray for her everytime I think of her. I'm surprised that Michael didn't try to create the world that Lisa wanted so they could be together. Michael would be with us now if he had. So tragic.
I love her, Michael told one of his associates the next day, more than anything, more than anyone, I still love Lisa. We have such a strong connection. His eyes filled with tears. That was my one shot, man, I did a lot of foolish things. I may never get another shot, you know? In another world, we would be together, Lisa would say, just not in his world, Im afraid. ---MJPgs 598-599
Sat. Feb 7th, 1998 MJ got together with Lisa at the Ivy to take her out for her birthday. They arrived holding hands. He told her, I focus on what I dont have, instead of what I do have. I just want to be in love. Like what you and I had. I was so afraid, I know now that I closed you out. What can I do now? Later they were driven to Santa Monica for a long walk on the beach, talking into the night.
Michael did find Tat attractive but she was too aggressive. Actually at that same time he was crazy about a young Egyptian/French young woman that was sent to American to study. He was pursuing this young woman when Tat made serious advances at him. Thats when he gave her the walking papers. It was his decision; not management.
Tatiana. He found her attractive at first, but she became extremely aggressive and wrote him letters that were so sexually explicit that he showed them to a crew member he was close friends with to get their opinion on whether or not Tatiana was mentally unstable. She also stalked him backstage, and security had to pull her out of a car that she had followed MJ into. MJ did not like wanton, lewd women.
@forMJ2 lisa marie was his women and love of his life whether you like or not not tatiana thumbtzen she was a women who worked with him if you don't like with michael you can't compelled to see her videos stop telling stupid speculation
y decide to have kids at 40? how do you think mj felt?. that's like driving a nail to mj's coffin (figuratively and literally too. as you pointed out he died less than a yr. from that). it's the ultimate betrayal. lisa is jumping from 1 relationship to another. i have this feeling that husband #4 won't be the last. she's now working w/ this hawley guy, who knows where it will lead. but there was only 1 michael jackson and she'll never find him in another man. that's her curse.
an adult. he needed more love and understanding. maybe lisa gave up too soon on him w/c i think she later regretted. the first years of marriage are always the difficult ones as it is the adjustment period. mj is a very nice person and slow to anger. i believe he will never divorce lisa even if he had to resort to a surrogate to have the children but she left & he did not contest her decision. I feel hurt though that she decided to have children later on w/ another guy. she already have kids.
but was told he had left. in the months they were dating she was already exposed to that. you cannot be a star of mj's magnitude w/o the hangers on. that goes with the package. i know you always say that lisa also had a difficult life, but i tend to give mj more slack. lisa's life was privileged, she grew up spoiled. it took mj's blood, sweat and tears to be attain what he had . he also had to deal w/ physical and verbal abuse as a child, and prejudice & ridicule & false accusations as a
i understand about bringing children into a stable union. i have no quarrel w/ that. but to say she is not familiar w/ his world, that i do not agree. she is no stranger to celebrity, her own father had his own cordon sanitaire, lead by a certain col. parker, if i remember right. she knew about mj's own cordon sanitaire coz she would even leave several contact numbers so that his staff will know where to reach her. she even said at one time that she's supposed to follow him in puerto rico
Well my point was...they weren't really hiding it when they were dating, and the press didn't seem to care (though they knew)...so I think that LMP was blown away about how the media interest in their marriage was blown out of porportion and NEVER DIED DOWN...it then created an atmosphere of instability...celebs get married everyday, but eventually the media coverage dies down...not in MJ & LMP's case, so she CHANGED HER MIND on bringing kids into that media circus atmosphere...
PART 3: I think that she wanted her kids to have stability and not constantly be in the atmosphere that was created as a result of their marriage...with MJ she had love and no stability...with ML I think that she has a little less love, but a whole lot more stability.
PART 2: and decided that she didn't want to bring children into HIS WORLD...w/ the self-destructiveness, the hangers on, the yes men, that she hadn't really experienced before...I don't think that she intentionally deceived his...I think that she LOVED HIM, but HATED HIS WORLD, & I think that she wanted to work on making the marriage stronger and saving him and he wanted to work on having kids...2 different goals...I think tha she wanted the marriage to be stable before having children....
country. i think both of them wanted to move on but just can't totally let go. they still love each other and hurt each other. tragic convenient though to have a hubby w/ the same name as mj. if she calls out his hame, the husband will not know any better. or will he always wonder which michael is she calling?
I agree with some of you here, about that she was really denying and more on the ignorant reporters site after the divorce, I see some kind of weakness in her...
But on the other side; there is no doubt she meant a lot to MJ, and that they loved each other...! She was there during the 93 allegations (not in 2005 though, but then again) and I have sympathy for her...
LM didn't want the media attacking her like they did him that's why she denied him in interviews and talking about saving him; they had a love that was obvious and he didn't want media or anyone else hurting her because of him. He loved her but had to let her go and she had to have a reason to leave. pix shows how much in love they were. A real tragic love story. I pray for her strength in her grief. RIP MJ.
I agree and I think that she avoided talking about him and gave somewhat conflicting stories because she wanted to safeguard the private truth of their relationship...I think that a lkot of the questions were painful for her too.
I also think that Brooke denies having a romantic relationship with him NOW, because I think that she is just trying to avoid the questions and to safeguard the privacy of their relationship.
This song does really fit Lisa and Michael. Their relationship lasted a lot longer past 1996 and Lisa's comments after Michael's death tells me that he still has a major affect on her, though she's been trying to move on for many years now. I don't know if we'll ever know the full extent of their relationship and what happened, but I am certain that their was a deep and passionate love btw them that I don't think time really erased.
Well put. These people just had too much against them. It was impossible for them to maintain any kind of longlasting relationship because the fame of the two of them put together was just too much. But I do think they loved each other desperately. How tragic. Had they been able to stay together, I think Michael would be alive now. And what a shame that LMP had to witness up close the pre-mature death of two men she loved so much. The guilt and sorrow must be overwhelming.
A very fitting song for their relationship. I do believe that neither one seemed the same after their split. They clearly loved eachother, but at the same time i understand why Lisa had to walk away..things would of been different if they'd stayed together. And Michael having her picture on his nightstand,thats touching-aluminates his obvious adoration of her! Lovely video, thanku! =) x rip MJ..
I honestly feel bad for her...because I think that she gets a bad wrap...and I honestly and truly believe that she tried to help him and that she cared for him more than even some of his family...I just wish that she could have gotten to him sooner.
@luvsmesomedonnie. Yes...lots of people hold LMP accountable...why aren't his parents and siblings held accountable...as a matter of fact why isn't MJ held accountable. The fact is MJ had power, money and the means to keep anyone he wanted at bay. All he had to do was tell security he didn't want to see them. So if folks were trying an intervention they could have been stopped in their tracks. He had to have wanted the help himself...1st step was to sever all ties with the enablers.
I am pretty sure one of the reasons he used to disappear without a trace or word is because LMP was bringing up the problems. She couldn't contact him...probably told security not to let her through. I bet the enablers knew where he was and were allowed to get through.
could be. but perhaps when lisa refused to have children it was also difficult for him to deal with it remember lisa said, he was upset and he disappeared (prior to that vma affair). and lisa said that if they're having sex only in order to have children, she ain't gonna do it. so off he went. do you think she ever regretted not having children with him especially since he turned out to be a very good father.
A fitting song for MJ and LMPs relationhip. I believe MJ loved LMP till the day he died. I also believe that LMP to this day is still in love with MJ. Very sad. In another world and lifetime they would have been together for decades. This world and this lifetime destroyed what they had.
I believe that he loved her until the day that he died too...I think that seeing her married again and now solidifying that marriage by having two more children and not wanting to have had children with him...had to hurt him...She had the twins on 10/7/08...less than a year later he's gone...I think drugs had a lot to do with it, but I think that he was medicating his emotional pain about her as well as other things...they've reported that her picture was on his nightstand when he died.
somehow that also entered my mind. that's a big blow to him..she refusing to have his kids and later having them with another man... and at an advanced age at that, i mean for childbearing. what could she be thinking? is it not a case of anything you can do, i can do better for these 2? when he refused to reconcile with her, she strikes back with one thing that would hurt him most.. i think lisa is trying to fill the void mj left w/ other men, having children and now living in another
I think that her main goal for having children is that they be brought into a happy stable union...I think that when she fell in love with him, it was mostly over the phone and a few dates...she didn't have access to HIS WORLD. She consented to have children, thinking she was happy and in love...then she married him and got access to his world...HIS WORLD (yes, men, etc.) was what she objected too, not that she didn't love him...she CHANGED her mind and PART 1
This song seems written by Lisa. Honestly I think that she never could forget Michael, I hope that she can to live happy, I wouldn't like be in her shoes.
Lealonna 4 months ago
This was the happiest I have ever seen either of them. They were so in love and beautiful together. So glad that Michael had that in his life.
leahartlee29 8 months ago
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her story changes all of sudden she finally cares about him after his death,he deserved some one who truly cared about him. even though there marrige didnt work out atleast she could of been a friend, he even cried out for help from her even crying and she basicaly turned his back on him. she said that he called her one day and told her that he felt that some one was going to try to kill him, i cant believe after that phone call she didnt have the heart to be there for him or help him.
luzr1989 10 months ago
Does anyone knew why they breake up?
I love you MJ.
Rest in Paradise Sweet Angel. <3
NLGiirl 1 year ago
Perfect song to sum up this couple.
Trueheart365 1 year ago
They were so so beautiful together :'( Life tests you in the strangest ways...
AlovesMJ 1 year ago
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hldcon23 1 year ago
And we don't know what all the reasons were for sure either. Could be addiction issues & memories of her father, dif. of opinion on timing, his ugly inner circle, MsPrissy, her rumored miscarriage and other medical issues we've been hearing about. But... How many girls have we seen MJ hold hands with CONSTANTLY... and KISS in public. HELLO. As shy as he was THAT was no small thing!
Says it all. :)
MsTrinity333 1 year ago 4
I used to be a portrait photographer; it's all in eye contact & touching. A photg. knows. As they say; the eyes are the windows of the soul. Neither one of them were so happy or smiled as much as when they were together. Some people just can't accept their relationship. There were too many people messing around in that marriage. Like Michael said; why can't they just let me/us be happy...
MsTrinity333 1 year ago 5
@msangel, Icall him that because it seems like every picture that I see of them together has Lisa walking ahead of ML, and him following obediently behind her carrying her stuff!
CrazzyLudwig 1 year ago
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@crazzy Ludwig how is dat bitch mikes widow??? she divorced him in 1995 and never looked back until she was forced to in those interview in 2003 and 2007 where she basically bashed him like he wasn't even human!!! This woman is a loser and probably has regreted the way she treated him and she deserves to regret it 4 her whole miserable fuckin life-dats my opinion
TheKkmusic09 1 year ago
@TheKkmusic09 opinion ? it's not an opinion they are just ugly insults towards a person you never met you can't judge her you don't know her if you don't like her why are you on here ? leave her alone and stop insulting her hater !
faricec1 1 year ago
lisa is very pretty and she was much suited with michael more than brooke and he was happier with lisa than brooke
faricec1 1 year ago
Yeah she calls her present husband (and pack mule) Lockwood, after all there is only one Michael for Lisa or any of us for that matter. I hope that she is learning to live with her loss, because there was serious unfinished business there. She is Michael's widow, and I pray for her everytime I think of her. I'm surprised that Michael didn't try to create the world that Lisa wanted so they could be together. Michael would be with us now if he had. So tragic.
CrazzyLudwig 1 year ago
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@CrazzyLudwig just wondering why did you call her husband a pack mule?
rmsangel242 1 year ago
I love her, Michael told one of his associates the next day, more than anything, more than anyone, I still love Lisa. We have such a strong connection. His eyes filled with tears. That was my one shot, man, I did a lot of foolish things. I may never get another shot, you know? In another world, we would be together, Lisa would say, just not in his world, Im afraid. ---MJPgs 598-599
MsTrinity333 2 years ago 2
Sat. Feb 7th, 1998 MJ got together with Lisa at the Ivy to take her out for her birthday. They arrived holding hands. He told her, I focus on what I dont have, instead of what I do have. I just want to be in love. Like what you and I had. I was so afraid, I know now that I closed you out. What can I do now? Later they were driven to Santa Monica for a long walk on the beach, talking into the night.
MsTrinity333 2 years ago
Michael did find Tat attractive but she was too aggressive. Actually at that same time he was crazy about a young Egyptian/French young woman that was sent to American to study. He was pursuing this young woman when Tat made serious advances at him. Thats when he gave her the walking papers. It was his decision; not management.
MsTrinity333 2 years ago
Tatiana. He found her attractive at first, but she became extremely aggressive and wrote him letters that were so sexually explicit that he showed them to a crew member he was close friends with to get their opinion on whether or not Tatiana was mentally unstable. She also stalked him backstage, and security had to pull her out of a car that she had followed MJ into. MJ did not like wanton, lewd women.
MsTrinity333 2 years ago
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@MsTrinity333 thats kind of funy then again creepy
rmsangel242 1 year ago
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Lisa Not was his women in life , his women and his love was Diana Ross And Tatiana Thumtzen.
forMJ2 2 years ago
@forMJ2 lisa marie was his women and love of his life whether you like or not not tatiana thumbtzen she was a women who worked with him if you don't like with michael you can't compelled to see her videos stop telling stupid speculation
faricec1 2 years ago 3
@forMJ2 totally wrong lisa marie was an important love of his life more than you can imagine so totally speculation what you've said
hilmj81 2 years ago 3
The lyrics of this song are by far the best that I have heard so far as it relates to what Lisa Marie is feeling after MJ's death.
betseyby67 2 years ago 2
Ugh, now I'm crying..
It's so tragic..
Poor Michael..♥
wright22742 2 years ago 3
y decide to have kids at 40? how do you think mj felt?. that's like driving a nail to mj's coffin (figuratively and literally too. as you pointed out he died less than a yr. from that). it's the ultimate betrayal. lisa is jumping from 1 relationship to another. i have this feeling that husband #4 won't be the last. she's now working w/ this hawley guy, who knows where it will lead. but there was only 1 michael jackson and she'll never find him in another man. that's her curse.
luanneism 2 years ago 5
an adult. he needed more love and understanding. maybe lisa gave up too soon on him w/c i think she later regretted. the first years of marriage are always the difficult ones as it is the adjustment period. mj is a very nice person and slow to anger. i believe he will never divorce lisa even if he had to resort to a surrogate to have the children but she left & he did not contest her decision. I feel hurt though that she decided to have children later on w/ another guy. she already have kids.
luanneism 2 years ago 5
but was told he had left. in the months they were dating she was already exposed to that. you cannot be a star of mj's magnitude w/o the hangers on. that goes with the package. i know you always say that lisa also had a difficult life, but i tend to give mj more slack. lisa's life was privileged, she grew up spoiled. it took mj's blood, sweat and tears to be attain what he had . he also had to deal w/ physical and verbal abuse as a child, and prejudice & ridicule & false accusations as a
luanneism 2 years ago 3
i understand about bringing children into a stable union. i have no quarrel w/ that. but to say she is not familiar w/ his world, that i do not agree. she is no stranger to celebrity, her own father had his own cordon sanitaire, lead by a certain col. parker, if i remember right. she knew about mj's own cordon sanitaire coz she would even leave several contact numbers so that his staff will know where to reach her. she even said at one time that she's supposed to follow him in puerto rico
luanneism 2 years ago 4
Well my point was...they weren't really hiding it when they were dating, and the press didn't seem to care (though they knew)...so I think that LMP was blown away about how the media interest in their marriage was blown out of porportion and NEVER DIED DOWN...it then created an atmosphere of instability...celebs get married everyday, but eventually the media coverage dies down...not in MJ & LMP's case, so she CHANGED HER MIND on bringing kids into that media circus atmosphere...
luvsmesomedonnie 2 years ago 3
PART 3: I think that she wanted her kids to have stability and not constantly be in the atmosphere that was created as a result of their marriage...with MJ she had love and no stability...with ML I think that she has a little less love, but a whole lot more stability.
luvsmesomedonnie 2 years ago 2
PART 2: and decided that she didn't want to bring children into HIS WORLD...w/ the self-destructiveness, the hangers on, the yes men, that she hadn't really experienced before...I don't think that she intentionally deceived his...I think that she LOVED HIM, but HATED HIS WORLD, & I think that she wanted to work on making the marriage stronger and saving him and he wanted to work on having kids...2 different goals...I think tha she wanted the marriage to be stable before having children....
luvsmesomedonnie 2 years ago 4
@luvsmesomedonnie That makes sense to me!
MsPenelope7 2 years ago
country. i think both of them wanted to move on but just can't totally let go. they still love each other and hurt each other. tragic convenient though to have a hubby w/ the same name as mj. if she calls out his hame, the husband will not know any better. or will he always wonder which michael is she calling?
luanneism 2 years ago
@luanneism Apparently, she calls her present husband "Lockwood".
MsPenelope7 2 years ago
I agree with some of you here, about that she was really denying and more on the ignorant reporters site after the divorce, I see some kind of weakness in her...
But on the other side; there is no doubt she meant a lot to MJ, and that they loved each other...! She was there during the 93 allegations (not in 2005 though, but then again) and I have sympathy for her...
It is a tragical love story! That's for sure...
IVH93 2 years ago
i think that when LMP asked for divorce michael got his heart broken...................... i bet he really liked her......
xXUniqueDiamondXx 2 years ago
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yosraz1 2 years ago
I agree with you!
kuki2girl 2 years ago
LM didn't want the media attacking her like they did him that's why she denied him in interviews and talking about saving him; they had a love that was obvious and he didn't want media or anyone else hurting her because of him. He loved her but had to let her go and she had to have a reason to leave. pix shows how much in love they were. A real tragic love story. I pray for her strength in her grief. RIP MJ.
carolnca 2 years ago 17
I agree and I think that she avoided talking about him and gave somewhat conflicting stories because she wanted to safeguard the private truth of their relationship...I think that a lkot of the questions were painful for her too.
I also think that Brooke denies having a romantic relationship with him NOW, because I think that she is just trying to avoid the questions and to safeguard the privacy of their relationship.
luvsmesomedonnie 2 years ago 3
@carolnca very true what you've said
faricec1 1 year ago
This song does really fit Lisa and Michael. Their relationship lasted a lot longer past 1996 and Lisa's comments after Michael's death tells me that he still has a major affect on her, though she's been trying to move on for many years now. I don't know if we'll ever know the full extent of their relationship and what happened, but I am certain that their was a deep and passionate love btw them that I don't think time really erased.
LelamariL 2 years ago 2
Well put. These people just had too much against them. It was impossible for them to maintain any kind of longlasting relationship because the fame of the two of them put together was just too much. But I do think they loved each other desperately. How tragic. Had they been able to stay together, I think Michael would be alive now. And what a shame that LMP had to witness up close the pre-mature death of two men she loved so much. The guilt and sorrow must be overwhelming.
Cathie8791 2 years ago 2
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A very fitting song for their relationship. I do believe that neither one seemed the same after their split. They clearly loved eachother, but at the same time i understand why Lisa had to walk away..things would of been different if they'd stayed together. And Michael having her picture on his nightstand,thats touching-aluminates his obvious adoration of her! Lovely video, thanku! =) x rip MJ..
lonelylost80sgirl 2 years ago
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lonelylost80sgirl 2 years ago
Death leaves a heartache no on can heal; Love leaves a memory no on can steal...
laydydee 2 years ago 3
i love this one
luanneism 2 years ago
I honestly feel bad for her...because I think that she gets a bad wrap...and I honestly and truly believe that she tried to help him and that she cared for him more than even some of his family...I just wish that she could have gotten to him sooner.
luvsmesomedonnie 2 years ago
@luvsmesomedonnie. Yes...lots of people hold LMP accountable...why aren't his parents and siblings held accountable...as a matter of fact why isn't MJ held accountable. The fact is MJ had power, money and the means to keep anyone he wanted at bay. All he had to do was tell security he didn't want to see them. So if folks were trying an intervention they could have been stopped in their tracks. He had to have wanted the help himself...1st step was to sever all ties with the enablers.
laydydee 2 years ago
I am pretty sure one of the reasons he used to disappear without a trace or word is because LMP was bringing up the problems. She couldn't contact him...probably told security not to let her through. I bet the enablers knew where he was and were allowed to get through.
laydydee 2 years ago
could be. but perhaps when lisa refused to have children it was also difficult for him to deal with it remember lisa said, he was upset and he disappeared (prior to that vma affair). and lisa said that if they're having sex only in order to have children, she ain't gonna do it. so off he went. do you think she ever regretted not having children with him especially since he turned out to be a very good father.
luanneism 2 years ago
I also believe that...
SrkLuv3r 2 years ago
i also think she was the love of his life,
rip michael!
le475 2 years ago 14
A fitting song for MJ and LMPs relationhip. I believe MJ loved LMP till the day he died. I also believe that LMP to this day is still in love with MJ. Very sad. In another world and lifetime they would have been together for decades. This world and this lifetime destroyed what they had.
laydydee 2 years ago 4
I believe that he loved her until the day that he died too...I think that seeing her married again and now solidifying that marriage by having two more children and not wanting to have had children with him...had to hurt him...She had the twins on 10/7/08...less than a year later he's gone...I think drugs had a lot to do with it, but I think that he was medicating his emotional pain about her as well as other things...they've reported that her picture was on his nightstand when he died.
luvsmesomedonnie 2 years ago
he had a photo of her in his night stand
i think he liked her till the day he died
xXUniqueDiamondXx 2 years ago
somehow that also entered my mind. that's a big blow to him..she refusing to have his kids and later having them with another man... and at an advanced age at that, i mean for childbearing. what could she be thinking? is it not a case of anything you can do, i can do better for these 2? when he refused to reconcile with her, she strikes back with one thing that would hurt him most.. i think lisa is trying to fill the void mj left w/ other men, having children and now living in another
luanneism 2 years ago
I think that her main goal for having children is that they be brought into a happy stable union...I think that when she fell in love with him, it was mostly over the phone and a few dates...she didn't have access to HIS WORLD. She consented to have children, thinking she was happy and in love...then she married him and got access to his world...HIS WORLD (yes, men, etc.) was what she objected too, not that she didn't love him...she CHANGED her mind and PART 1
luvsmesomedonnie 2 years ago
I've tried so hard to tell myself that you're gone. But though you're still with me. I've been alone all along...
For some reason reminds me of the statement on her myspace blog... Sad, but beautiful at the same time. Thanks!
Natalia215 2 years ago
too black and white... but love the song..
lockwoodrocks 2 years ago
cool!
sillydillyM302 2 years ago