@MunkyJuce69 Rapid Detox,conscious, is absolutly horrid.And felt like a punishemnt to me although I knew I had developed a dependence.All I wanted to do is get out of this Rehab hospital,away from cranky old ladies,young men & women who struggled to move a muscle.Very depressing.But I need to detox from this lot.Start a new med,get pain uncontrol than home.the Rapid Detox was the worst ever,as you could understand.
Hopefull neither of us ever have to go through that experience again.
...I'm getting back on the methadone program. I have an appointment on Feb. 22nd. I'm not sure how they are going to get me off the suboxone back onto methadone though.
I have been on subutex for 4 years now after using su boxone to get me off my opiates. I can't seem to get off the subutex though. I take 1 mg in am and same in pm. I have leveled back off here to stop the withdrawels. Any suggestions or comments. Im also on Paxil and atavan. Talk about a bunch of drugs it's hard to get off of. I feel like i'm up against an army from hell trying to get off these one by one and still losing the battle. I just don't want to go back on the opiates.
@hi8sony There is only one step forward now with no pain and that is dexofen i hope you dont live in a shit country like sweden . With dexofen you can quit completly with 0 or very mild symptoms good luck
@hi8sony If you are in pain long term then why not just stay on opiates? The withdrawal effects are not a problem if you just stay on the medication.
Even in this day and age scientists have not managed to identify any substance that is anywhere near as good as the opiates, opioids and/or narcotics.. What ever your reason for coming off the meds. I would like to congratulate you and wish you all the best in your struggle against pain.
@shoutatthesky I just hate the things.Hate medication full stop.I'll give it out at work but taking it myself...Plus I rely on my Neurostimulator (electrical) implant.I DON'T want to live my life on opiates.Good for short term to control my pain.But there not the things for me.They are for others.
I can't study when my brain is fried on narcotics.I can't take proper care of me son,although he's 15 & can take care of himself he's still under my roof.
I thought that by doing rapid detox that you are asleep while detoxing-rapidly and you wake up with no withdrawl symptons or cravings, well thats what ive read and seen on other videos.
why not give him skullcap and magnesium calcium every 2 hours-starting 2 weeks b4 detox and during-and only protein no carbs-? they would be hardly any symptoms- plus keep taking them so u can live acalm life
If you think coming off of daluadid was rough coming off of suboxone is harder because withdrawal can last a month or more if you plan on getting of the bupe do it asap
@F13rce187 on day 5 as we speak.. ive detoxed from heroin and its a few days of hell but this seems like a long slow process.. day 3, 4 and 5 just kept getting worse.. i hope that after day 5 i start to have some windows of comfort.....
@weaver412 I've kicked heroin in jail before and I was a heavy iv user. I tried kicking subs a few times and couldn't make it past 3 days. I've been on suboxone for 5 years so I'll prolly never get off them. But a good friend of mine is 3 weeks in and he said the worst is over but he still has restless legs and trouble sleeping
So srry for your pain. Pls, look at Ibogaine. It is here in the USA, Uk, Mexico, Canada. Why suffer so long and then suffer for yrs with cravings. If that is what I had to face today i would prefer to just keep on doping...pm me is you need some suggestion on how to go about recieving this treatment.
I hate to see anyone suffer with wd these days when there is a way not only to rapidly detox but also not walk away from that detox in constance turmoil, fighting to stay clean.
@sisterwin2 u chat shit man iboga is not a cure, it didnt do shit for me, after 4 months ur depression is worse, i know another lady who committed suicided when the iboga came down, u really dont know what u talking about, i felt like u too on top of the world after iboga but when that iboga comes down ur in for a some shit trust me, i paid $over 3000 in mexico and all it did was hold me out for 4 months, but the shit returned, i was suboxone user for 3 years, switched to oxys then iboga.
@MegaDhack Thought you might remove a treat to my life.
BUT I still have it in my Hotmail inbox!
I DON'T think drugs are cool.That's you delusions talking to you.
In one sentence you write "i smoke weed alott drink on weekends i aint do drugs".You are so off the Planet that you think weed isn't a drug.The spelling & language is very low.I think you need to stop doing drugs & go back to school.
i have been an amphetamine addict, and an alcoholic, both of which are easy to quit... you just stop.. but opiates, heroin in my case, have a different, catastrophic effect.. never addicted, i was always weary as alot of friends were screwed up.. didn't stop me doing a bucketload, but i never let it get me.. i am now drug free and baulk at the idea of using speed or meth, but the good feeling opiate lure for some reason is still there.. but i will not do it simply because i know.. evil shit
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lol, u fuckin puss. I was taking 30 grams of Ketamine a day for a year and then quit cold turkey in one day. I vomited in the morning, but went to work and shit. no one even knew. I'd do that shit all the time and you are just a weakling.
@valdezmiguel2 No your a fucking idiot.And I am NOT weak.You are.Taking drugs to get away from something you can't cope with.
Ketamine, fucks with your head and by the way in which you write so angerily and state your superior just because you didn't really get a withdrawal, is pathetic & idiotic.
WD are NOT a competition.
I had Ketamine running through my veins,12mg an hour! Whilst in this video.So just under what you were on.
I DON'T usually attach back BUT you pissed me off big time.
@balckbettystack .. morphine & dillie's eh.. weak drugs.. i sell them fur 20$ a pop.. hydromorph's are shitt.. & dilladas aint even close too a 80mg oxycontin.. so mikhasw is rite.. ur body prolly cant handle bullshit pills.. try takin larazapam for a week.. take another video.. n see the diffrence.
@valdezmiguel2 ketamine isnt even an opiate and isnt physically addictive. you have no idea how hard it is, compared to meth or anything its in a class of its own. do a gram a day of heroin and then talk shit
@valdezmiguel2 lmao @ ketamine...do people still do that? its not physically addictive anyway. let me shove an eigth of smack and 100mg of methadone into you system everyday for a year..then stop....see how good you do...ill be there making sure you go to work..lol..30 grams of ketamine..aw you made me giggle.
@the7thwreck Are you trying to show off or something? Do you want a medal? "Oo I did methadone and heroin everyday and then stopped COLD TURKEY and went to WORK ya pussies! Im so hood!" yeah that sounds like your comment there...
@beckasha83 did you read that guys comment? I was havin a go at him for calling her a pussy cuz he came off ketamine and went to work the same day....read his comment and then you'll get mine..lol
@valdezmiguel2 are you fucking thick or what??? Drugs like ketamine DO NOT cause a withdrawal syndrome as that of heroin. You can take ket everyday for 20 yrs and still stop just like that. When addicted to heroin or any other opiate your brains discontinues the production of opiods as you are already taking it in from the drugs...when you stop the opiates it takes time for the brain to start producing again...thus creating THE WORST withdrawals a person could ever endure. FUCKING KET HAHAHAHAA
@valdezmiguel2 Your an asshole. Instead of trying to uplift someone who is going through this situation you try and make it a fucking competion. Thats like if I had a cold, you brag because you have a cold too, your symtoms are worse, but you got over it faster. You should be motivating, praying and helping this woman, not bragging about being a fucking substance abuser. I would hate to be your friend, I can just imagine how you are in EVERY situation. Fucking discusting to me.
@sisterwin2 i have done research before. they don't use ibogain in the US i don't think. But again its not going to cure all. I read one report where a girl relapsed after her ibogain treatment and later committed suicide. But i do suggest every1 at least do some research on it. It really can help i hear.
@sisterwin2 My boyfriend is currently taking around 160mgs of Oxymorphone and Oxycontin daily and I had a friend suggest Ibogane to me...I've heard some REALLY great stuff on it and a lot of success stories...Sucks that it's not legal in the US. I wonder why...Hmm...
@RiaRoseKnows Its no success trust me. Over 80% of ppl relapse be cause the depression is bad after when iboga-ibogaine wears off. Those ppl who talk positive about it are either just dont iboga or are sellers wanting to make money. I done it trust me and belive me it destroys ur brain-cells. About 10 ppl had to be admitted to a mental health institution because ibogaine messed their receptors. The ratio of death is 10/150, that is scary. It doesnt work for the long term I promise u this.
ahhh i hate painkillers if only i knew what i was getting myself into before i started taking them. i underestamated addiction and how powerfull it really is and the shitty thing is every time i quit i end up back on them because i get to sick and put in the hospital (im waiting for a lung transplant) life fucking sucks in every way these days
@clevelandman2010 lol....you suck so hard its hilarious.Heres an idea...stfu. simple, then the world would be a better place. Its so cute reading childrens comments btw. made me smile.
Addiction is a thought process, an obsession. Unfortunately that doesn't just go away when you stop using. Truth be told, the withdrawl is the easy part, although I am well aware it doesn't feel that way at the time. The hard part comes after the withdrawl.
Good luck to all those who know what i'm talking about.
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I was taking the equivelent of 155 vicodin PER DAY and about 16 soma. Snorting the majority of it the last month. I was living in hell until I could get enough up my nose. Orally did almost nothing for me. it was a survival move as disgusting as it may be. I ran out and my doctor would not refill anything. After three days I went to him and laid down in the room. He was shocked at how bad I was. I got off 140 days later w/suboxone rehab in my house. was hell but did it. now ,4 yrs cln.
@hi8sony As somebody who used to put vicodins up their nose... I'm having a hard time believing the 155 a day. Tell me the dosage of them and I'll tell you if I believe you.. not that you care.. but still..
@beckasha83 I just saw your comment. Yeah I get that a lot. I always need to clarify. I use the 155 vicodin to put it in perspective. What I actually had was about 16 40mg Oxycontin and 12 Norco along with 12 Soma per day. Every bit I was crushing and snorting including the Soma. I did so around every 2 to 3 hours. It was not fun. It was addiction. Out of control addiction. Taking them orally left me feeling bad. This level of usage lasted about 2 mos. then my doc. cut me off. Thnk God
@hi8sony Well I understand the point of that then, but in all honesty oxy is worse (when it comes to WDs) than vicodin. So I can only imagine what all that was like. I used to get about 180 lortab (10/500) a month and they'd be gone in less than a week. It's always good to get off of them before you die of it, yeah?
@beckasha83 You know it. The WD's were the worse thing I have ever gone through. I was so scared when I made the decision. The doctor gave me the option of refills or to start suboxone and then he would help me slowly wien of of that one. After 4 years I still take a 1mg dose of SubuTEX for my back pain which started this whole thing 14 years ago. I want off the subutex but am having a very hard time getting off it. I can't believe how hard it is. That and benzos are so dangerous. Thanks
@hi8sony Listen, when taken correctly, narcotics are a GOOD thing. There really isn't any sense in suffering in pain when something can be done about it. The thing is don't go overboard. I know it's tough as I've been there before. I am on ultram now... I sent you a private message though.
@hi8sony WELLDONE! Dont think the effort goes un-noticed, just remember how bad the worst of your using days were, that should make sure you dont go back. YOU RULE!
this is so sad.... I have friends who are desperately hooked on oxy's and I have been watching their liver fall apart and now everything they do revolves around the next pill. Im so glad I never got into it. I hope you are feeling better now. : )
@msnikish I was admitted from a general hospital where I was for investigation of intense chest pains (normal shit) to a Rehabilitation Hospital. NOT like Drug Rehab, but Rehab after accidents to get you walking & stuff again.
They wanted to send me back to a general hospital but I went through detox in this Rehab.
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Opiates sure were fun, had lots of fun on them many weekends. Then those weekends turned into 3 day weekends, then 4 days a week but only at night. Then from 4 to 6 days then to 7. Then not just at night, but in the morning and night, that was right before I found myself taking them all day everyday. WOW, what happened to all the fun? Well they stopped being fun when thats all you think about because you don't want to feel sick if you don't have them. God, what a waste of time.
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@the7thwreck@the7thwreck Ketamine assists in the detox/withdrawal process. It doesn't cause detox and withdrawals.
The strange thing it does do is when you finally finish detoxing, if you were suffering pain that got you on pain killers in the first place, that it tends to re-set the pain receptors in the brain making your ability to tolerate pain a lot stronger.
This has happened to many people who have detoxed with Ketamine.
@balckbettystack you mean i can tak K to help get off dope? man i dont want K in me, the same way i cant use E or acid anymore i wouldt like the feeling anymore i cringe at the thought of doing those drugs again
It has to be used under complete medical supervision. Not just doing K when the withdrawals hit.
It's used a lot in Australia for pain control, especially for people who are dying. Then they found it can ease withdrawal symptoms. But I think having Ketamine in my system is MUCH WORSE than withdrawal with nothing.
My buddy took a naltrexone with a 240mg/day oxycodone habit, while he was high. He screamed for 5 hours. He did it at home in his bed. He sweated so bad that he literally soaked 2 blankets, sheet sets, mattress... I saw the whole thing from beginning to end. I wanted to call 911 but my other friend who is a nurse was there and said everything was OK, in that he wasn't in need of 911.
@christo930 I tried something similar. I had a very large heroin habit. I was so desperate, that I thought I could put all the sickness in one day, and be finished with it. So I popped a 50mg Naltrexone. It nearly killed me. I nearly killed myself, as well. It was the most miserable thing I have even been through in my life. What is really crazy, is that I tried this on 2 different occasions. It failed both times. If your friend still has a problem, check out my page. There is a cure. Just look.
@ibogahelp That was about 7 years ago. Shorty after that experience he went on methadone maint and was on it for about 5 years and I think is still clean.
@msnikish Yes, very sick. What we are talking about is a stupid, desperate, junky detox. It is an attempt to compress all the sickness into a short time by forcing it on with Naltrexone. "Self rapid detox". So you can very SUPER-SUPER sick for a few days, as opposed to regular super dope sick for a month. That is the logic, anyway. It is a terrible idea. It is amongst the most horrific of experiences a person can go through. Naltrexone is not a good thing. Very unhealthy, and very dangerous.
@ibogahelp i did an an outpatient detox where they gave me adavan and clonodine, trazedone to help sleep at night and ritilin to help perk up in the morning and after a few days they gave me naltrexone to take but i didnt , thats the first and last time i ever heard of anyone prescribing that...you are the first person i heard mention naltrexone....i guess its not common or is it for at home detoxes?
@msnikish No, it was NOT intended for home detox. Naltrexone is very dangerous.Two uses: One is to use in doctor assisted detox, where they sedate you with powerful muscle relaxers and tranquillizers. It sucks, and success is 0%. Cost, $20,000. The other use is as an opiate blocker. Theory: you use heroin, nothing happens, so you don't waste your money. The cravings are just as strong as ever, though. Life can really suck if you are not motivated enough. Naltrexone is very sad. No good feelings
@ibogahelp they gave it to me after i was done with the adavan and clonodine, and told me i couldnt get high if i took it.really $20,000? hell no thats crazy....are you drug free now??ya life does suck when not motivated, i just left a 7 day detox last week, and back to same shit, i dont know what it gonna take, been homeless, been to psych wards, been locked up, had family stop talk to me, lost possessions gained them ans lost it all again and again, od'd i hate this
@msnikish One withdrawal I had to go through I took the Clonadine/Catapres, Valium and Temazepam for home Detox. It did help. Mkaes me feel stupid going through Cold Turkey BUT I prefer that is over and done with.
What I meant was that nobody is going to go through withdrawals after only 4 weeks of using opiates. So stop " mocking" those who really know what withdrawals are !!
@Th3Or4cle I agree boo hoo baby you have a minor habit problem after 4 weeks thats a joke and this is from the mouth of a methadone doctor.....after four weeks you are still in the baby stage of addiction....which means no physical symptoms besides restlessness and it is all in your head of course you will feel 'pain' when u quit 'painkillers' because you have been numb to that pain 4 a few wks. but that my darling idiot is not withdrawls.....they occur after such a long period that your brain
@isadora7717 has been so chemically re-wired that you will never feel normal for up to years after quitting. u have overused your dopamine and serotonin and blasted ur transmitters to hell(which transfer the chemicals to parts of the body in pain etc.,) during ur constant use which are chemicals that ur body produces to feel happy or at ease or to lower your pain! like endorphins are released during exercise, in this you will feel so bad you wouldn't be bragging about it to a camera. udon'tknow
I think my Neurosurgeon who was supervising this detox must sure be stupid.Because he shure saw the pain I was in which is why he put me on Catapres & Valium.
You,if true,dole out drugs.You are NOT there when someone detoxes.A TOTALLY different situation.
DON'T you dare bag me!You have NO IDEA of what pain I went through with this dam withdrawal.So shut your fucking mouth OK?
@balckbettystack He's as much of a doctor as he is an immature SOB. I've been through benzo's and opiates withdrawl....something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
Get sick of so called 'Doctors/Experts' (drug addicts themselves) coming to my sites and sprouting off to make themselves feel better. And me worse. Which doesn't work.
O.K. here this is the same person logged in from a different acct.
and you totally mis-interpreted what I said here and took it completely out of context
I meant this is coming from the mouth of my methadone doctor, I am relaying what he said.....I have been a patient of his for 3 years plus and have had this terrible addiction for over 6 yrs. so I do know alot on the subject....I sounded a little insensitive and I apologize
@danieljgdenomy cont......I just thought that you saying you were going through such bad withdrawls after just 4 weeks seemed to be a pre-mature claim considering others situations, not to say that you didn't suffer as we all know that this can be hell. It's just that if you were able to post yourself on here it couldnt have been that bad for u. I couldnt do that while sweating and shivering, having muscle spasms so intense so want to knock urself out, vomiting out both ends, stomach cramping,
@danieljgdenomy cont.... nose running, crying, pain so intense you want to kill yourself. I just wouldnt be posting that kind of suffering on public doamin for all to see and to comment and then complain when people say what you don't want to hear, well that just seems strange to me. I don't know what you went through. I wasn't there and I"m sure it was awful. People who come on here looking up this subject are looking for ANSWERS and it is comforting to know there are others who undertsand.
@danieljgdenomy I put the videos on public because I wanted to educate people.Open people's eyes.That happened being found by 60 Minutes Australia.
Yeah I know people bitch and complain on my sight.Less than the supporters.And I'm fine with that or I would have put a bar on comments or just not showed the videos.
Many, many,many people have come on here to find help.And I have helped quiet a few of them.
Were you looking for help when you stumbled along?
@balckbettystack i think its great what your doing!! people really shouldnt bitch and complain. everyone thinks their story is the worst.. First hand i could tell you, it doesnt matter how it started.. once it starts, its all the same thing...
@danieljgdenomy They were tapped by me and my son BUT were not put on Youtube until the detox was well over. I couldn't have done it in detox.
Also if you watch the whole video through you would have heard me say that I had severe chest pain right then filming. This is the same pain that causes me to take pain killers. That's why this video seems to catch people's eyes. I was in pure pain and in detox.
@isadora7717 Oh you are not a methadone doctor, why? Because you would've lost your liscence in an instant for talking to people that way. Not only that, doctors have a tendency to have better grammar. Stop trying to get people to pay attention to what you say, when nobody cares. I think it's probably you are a NURSE or a secretary at a methadone clinic and have never experienced real pain before so you bash on these people because they are desperate or help. STFU and GTFO!
@isadora7717 what about when u have had a history of opiate addiction or being prescribed opiate pain meds, get clean for years then get a 4 week habit? The WDs are just as distressing, you say theres a difference? but its hard to tell, when you are withdrawing youre withdrawing..not sitting there going 'im fuckin ill but at least its 10% easier....'
@Th3Or4cle Really? If you have been on opiates in the past, got clean then started again at a future point if only for 4 weeks you WILL withdraw as bad as when you were a constant user.Its something that happens in the body or to the pain receptors that causes such a phenomenon. Im an addict of 12yrs and so I know, I dont get why you think 'blackbettystack' is 'mocking'. she knows more about this shit than many illicit drug users as shes completely legit.
@Th3Or4cle You know I have found out something with my videos on her?. That people like you BELIEVE withdrawals are a competition. There not! Ok? We all suffer the same. So get off your high horse and realise your just the same as everyone else. Human.
@balckbettystack Removes your ego, makes thoughts become visions. If you learn from it properly and understand what's happening it's like having a religious experience haha. It makes me feel like I understand everything and puts me at ease with the world. You sort of feel what you see, everything is one. I think basically it's a scary experience if you don't really know what it does; the feeling that I was dying was scary the first few times I guess but after that it's rewarding.
When I came off Oxys I stopped Cold ! how you ask ? Well by using POT lots and lots of POT !!! not once did I feel withdraw or insomnia !!! not once did I feel depressed of full !! I gained wight and felt Good . End of story
@balckbettystack YOu took it for pain right ? I took mine for the Feel . Before I was addicted to Oxy it was first Cigarettes then Weed then beer then xTc then shrums then I got of all of it . 2 years later Oxy enter my life and this is where the crazy roller coster started . Oxy is more addictive then any drug Iv ever used . God is healing me from al addictions and im thankful for a loving God who cares ( This life is pain but Gods kingdom will be wonders beyond are reasoning
Shut the fuck up you stupid ass retard. Jesus is stroking my balls as we speak you gay bitch. Christianity is a false hope and lie to suck in the weak and pathetic.
If anyone is struggling with addiction and can't afford to get on Suboxone maintenance themselves since doctors are so expensive, I have some extra 8mg scripts of Suboxone I am not using if anyone is interested in them send me a message on here. I got them for free with insurance so I'd give you a really good deal. Thanks.
If anyone is struggling with addiction and can't afford to get on Suboxone maintenance themselves since doctors are so expensive, I have some extra 8mg scripts of Suboxone I am not using if anyone is interested in them send me a message on here. I got them for free with insurance so I'd give you a really good deal. Thanks.
Yeah I got hooked on Dilaudid / Oxycodone as a result of multiple abdominal surgeries due to Crohns disease. I would have never ever personally chose to take prescription opioid pain killers for shits and giggles otherwise. I entered the hospital with one problem and left with another (opioid addiction). I’m on suboxone now but I still don’t feel like my self by a long shot! I don’t have withdrawals but I just feel spaced out and never want to nor have a desire to do a damn thing!
I'm leaving my house in 20 minutes for a doctor's appointment. Going to be my first attempt at kicking a two year addiction to heroin. This video was the last thing I wanted to see before that, haha.
When I was on heroin, somehow my mom came across a couple naltraxone pills and while I was in the bathroom she crushed one up in my iced-tea. 20 minutes later I went to shoot up and instead of a nice rush of euphoria I got instant horrible withdrawls that lasted 2 days, and its not like you can just take a whole bunch of opiates to overcome the naltraxone because you only get sicker, just got to ride it out. Wanted to kill the fuckin bitch.
hahahaha they gave you KETAMINE??!! WTF man that is nuts, i have never heard of a doctor administering that except on animals! haha i tried it when i was in high school, my friend got a huge amount for a good price and we would do it in the bathroom between classes and shit sometimes (i was wild then). That was one of the strangest drugs I have ever taken, made my palms sweat, colors REALLY bright, and even walking is difficult, thats just a first for me never heard that b4
You need to stop making these videos. I see you sick one day and other days you would feel fine. You need to decide if you are going to stay on drugs or off. Your making people feel stupid watching your videos. Make up your mind! I suggest you see a good doctor. But not for detox. This is all about you. So think real hard to find a pernminent solution. No punt intended. I just want to help.
I hope you come up with the solution that will make you feel better.
That's a little harsh my friend. If you haven't gone through opiate withdrawls you don't know what you're talking about. I have been through them and I become suicidal because I would rather be dead than feel that intense pain. I'm going into a detox program this week after about 8 months on vicodin, now tolerance is up to 30 vicodin 5/500 a day. I've commited myself to getting off of it no matter what it takes, it has ruined my life.
Thanks buddy. Though the VA changed plans on me, we agreed suboxone treatment would be best for me, but can't in till March 31st. Till then I guess I'll taper down, or use vicoprofen, I don't want to hurt my liver anymore, and I am still as committed as ever for getting off of this. If I need to, I'll go into inpatient detox before the 31st. Opiates are just plain evil!
@balckbettystack update for me, still on suboxone 2mg twice a day. The transition from hyrdocodone was easy (cause they're both opiates), now my worry is how to get off the suboxone. My doc wants me to cut down to 3mg a day, but when I take that half a pill I yawn a lot and am sensitive to pain. Eventually I'll have to do it, but have just been putting it off.
@blumac81 5/500? 30 a day? dude, the tylenol is gonna kill you before the oxycodone ever does. holy shit. your liver must hate you. at least do a cold water extraction or something.
@blumac81 I see that it has been a while since you left this message. But if you get this please let me know how you did on the detox program with vicodin. I have tried so many times to get off of this stuff but the pain and the depression is unbearable. I can't stand being on this anymore. I can't do anything. My quality of life just sucks. I'm always tired and irritable. Please let me know how you did if you get this. Thank you so much! =)
@Sunflower7602 Hey there! Suboxone detox is going just fine as long as I have my 8mg dose twice a day and everything is fine. When I try to cut down or I miss a dose I fill it though, I get really anxious and have aches and pains, and yawn a lot for some reason. So, it's gonna take a while to get off the suboxone, but I hear that many people stay on it for the rest of their lives and do fine. Still gonna try to get off of it, I'm probably gonna have to cut the pill in quarters. Thanks
@blumac81 Thank you so much for getting back to me. Would you say that suboxone is really worth trying?? There is a place here close to me that is an outpatient rehab facility and they give you suboxone. But I am afraid of getting hooked on that. I have been on vicodin for a year now and it is killing me. It's making me really sick and my life just sucks b/c of it. Is this something that you would stay on for the rest of your life?
@blumac81 I am into the 3rd week off saboxone, i tapered to 2mg a day for over a month. I am still very sick at 3 weeks i had no idea this would be so painful. If i could have got my hands on any opoid i would have gone back to it. But now at 3 weeks it is starting to subside, I am very wek and still don't sleep well. I was a 6 year opoid addict. I looks like you can get off Saboxone but you may need 3 weeks or so and a strong constitution. Good Luck to all who jump off. Get your dose to 1/2 mg
@tom6431 dude your story there freaking scares the crap out of me. Luckily my doctor is okay with me tapering down only when I am ready. It's really that painful? Man I'm just gonna stay on it forever, I'm not going through that withdrawl shit again, withdrawl make me want to put a gun in my mouth I shit you not. Please don't even respond to this, it's too depressing.
@blumac81 30 5/500 vicodin a day? the amount of Acetimetiphen you are ingesting there is enough to kill 2 poeople?? you should be dead if not a few times over my friend :(
@balckbettystack I don't take that any more silly lol. Last year my liver finally did break down and I experienced the worst nausea (and vomiting) I had ever felt in my life. That and the doctor saying that if I continued taking it I would die by age 30. So I switched to Suboxone and still am on it, I'm fine with being on it forever it has few and sometime no side effects.
@XxMaLcLmPwNsxX I was only in the minor leagues my friend. If you research it a bit you'll see there are people who take hundreds of the pill several times a day. But ya 15,000 mg aceutamenaphine a day sure kicks the crap out of your liver! I take milk thistle now.
@blumac81 ik, i snort around 800mg's of morphine a day in the form of MS Contin. i could take hundreds of the vics too, but not that acetimetaphen lmao... of course any amount of tolerance can be reached, but whats to brag about, i have to snort that much morphine to stay out of a phycosis state, , thank god theres a methadone clinic where i live. i used to be up to like 120mg of hydromorphone rectal at one point hahaha good ol days. now methadone everyday rest of my life :(
@XxMaLcLmPwNsxX I know what you mean about that psycosis state, it's like being in hell. Seriously though methadone maintenance is not necessary anymore, switch to suboxone and you can do your own dosing with little chance of relapse.
@blumac81 suboxone doesnt work for me for some reason... doesnt take all the cravings and leaves me with insomnia ik methadone is pretty much absolute for most people but i prefer it over suboxone and it keeps me going :) worse then hell tho man, it honestly feels as if a divine spirit were raping my soul reaching deap into the pits of my imagination and forcing me to continue opiates. sometimes like once every couple weeks i have to use a strong opiate or ill go crazy and may harm others :(
@XxMaLcLmPwNsxX oops I forgot about this post, then disregard my suggestion to try suboxone. That's odd that it doesn't work on you. Typically it works on patients addicted to vicodin, oxycodone, and heroin, I haven't heard much about it working for morphine or opium or hydromorphone. It definitely does not work for ultram (don't ever start with that crap)
@blumac81 well i mostly used instant release morphine and hydromorphone rectally after a while since my sinus cavity's are permenantly damaged and the only way other then shooting was rectal which works almost as good but the WD's are ridiculous becuase even know it is not as fact acting as intravaneous its still a different route of adminastration and theres different effects on the body... nyhow ive managed to detox on codiene untill i am maintained on mehadone, its legal here in canada
Then how come i did hydros for a year straight and came off them with no insane crawling rage effects ??? but with oxy i did ?? methadone i taperd off fine .. a little discomfort but no serious raging withdrawl
@balckbettystack why didnt u just slowly take less and less each day instead of just goin cold turkeY? thats what im gonna do when i wanna quite snorting oxycontin pills
Hi Betty, so, I started taking percocets for spina bifida acculta and Spondiolysis (or something like that) both having to do with my spine. I have been trying to get off pain killers for months now, and ALWAYS end up going back to them. Now, I've been able to start the cutdown and eventually can get to 15mg every 12 hours, and now in the process of cutting down to 15mg every 24 hours. Its just been extremely difficult to get past that hurdle. Any advice? I can't STAND withdrawals!!!
Everybody tries to pull that bullshit saying they take drugs to cope with other problems ... well im callin bullshit .. i took drugs simply becuz they made me feel great
ive done rapid detox by self administering 50mg naltrexone. its worse than hell and takes even more willpower to endure than saying "no"!
MunkyJuce69 2 months ago
@MunkyJuce69 Rapid Detox,conscious, is absolutly horrid.And felt like a punishemnt to me although I knew I had developed a dependence.All I wanted to do is get out of this Rehab hospital,away from cranky old ladies,young men & women who struggled to move a muscle.Very depressing.But I need to detox from this lot.Start a new med,get pain uncontrol than home.the Rapid Detox was the worst ever,as you could understand.
Hopefull neither of us ever have to go through that experience again.
balckbettystack 2 months ago
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you are a fucking disgrace to the human society... i literally hope you fucking die
thebizhead 6 months ago
...I'm getting back on the methadone program. I have an appointment on Feb. 22nd. I'm not sure how they are going to get me off the suboxone back onto methadone though.
iluvuray 11 months ago
@iluvuray dont go on methadone, its harder, trust me and never do iboga
SonyaOOOlights 11 months ago
I have been on subutex for 4 years now after using su boxone to get me off my opiates. I can't seem to get off the subutex though. I take 1 mg in am and same in pm. I have leveled back off here to stop the withdrawels. Any suggestions or comments. Im also on Paxil and atavan. Talk about a bunch of drugs it's hard to get off of. I feel like i'm up against an army from hell trying to get off these one by one and still losing the battle. I just don't want to go back on the opiates.
hi8sony 11 months ago
@hi8sony I will write you a private reply in a few days as I'm in hospital at the moment having another dilitation,
balckbettystack 11 months ago
@hi8sony There is only one step forward now with no pain and that is dexofen i hope you dont live in a shit country like sweden . With dexofen you can quit completly with 0 or very mild symptoms good luck
art0neable 11 months ago
@hi8sony I am so sorry.I forgot to write back.Please forgive me.I will do it now.
balckbettystack 11 months ago
@hi8sony If you are in pain long term then why not just stay on opiates? The withdrawal effects are not a problem if you just stay on the medication.
Even in this day and age scientists have not managed to identify any substance that is anywhere near as good as the opiates, opioids and/or narcotics.. What ever your reason for coming off the meds. I would like to congratulate you and wish you all the best in your struggle against pain.
shoutatthesky 10 months ago
@shoutatthesky I just hate the things.Hate medication full stop.I'll give it out at work but taking it myself...Plus I rely on my Neurostimulator (electrical) implant.I DON'T want to live my life on opiates.Good for short term to control my pain.But there not the things for me.They are for others.
I can't study when my brain is fried on narcotics.I can't take proper care of me son,although he's 15 & can take care of himself he's still under my roof.
I am still off the meds & thank you so much
balckbettystack 10 months ago
@shenked im also on MMT on 50mg a day currently, and yes i use hydromorphone in large amounts with the done and still get high...
XxMaLcLmPwNsxX 11 months ago
I thought that by doing rapid detox that you are asleep while detoxing-rapidly and you wake up with no withdrawl symptons or cravings, well thats what ive read and seen on other videos.
funguysmall 11 months ago
why not give him skullcap and magnesium calcium every 2 hours-starting 2 weeks b4 detox and during-and only protein no carbs-? they would be hardly any symptoms- plus keep taking them so u can live acalm life
lmollot 1 year ago
God bless and help you
J63Nour 1 year ago
dude i thought you were rocly dennis
MrRandy1971 1 year ago
If you think coming off of daluadid was rough coming off of suboxone is harder because withdrawal can last a month or more if you plan on getting of the bupe do it asap
F13rce187 1 year ago
@F13rce187 on day 5 as we speak.. ive detoxed from heroin and its a few days of hell but this seems like a long slow process.. day 3, 4 and 5 just kept getting worse.. i hope that after day 5 i start to have some windows of comfort.....
weaver412 1 year ago
@weaver412 I've kicked heroin in jail before and I was a heavy iv user. I tried kicking subs a few times and couldn't make it past 3 days. I've been on suboxone for 5 years so I'll prolly never get off them. But a good friend of mine is 3 weeks in and he said the worst is over but he still has restless legs and trouble sleeping
F13rce187 1 year ago
Shit man..how are you now?? You ok??
davidgrahamscott 1 year ago
damn...that's fucked up.
19311978 1 year ago
So srry for your pain. Pls, look at Ibogaine. It is here in the USA, Uk, Mexico, Canada. Why suffer so long and then suffer for yrs with cravings. If that is what I had to face today i would prefer to just keep on doping...pm me is you need some suggestion on how to go about recieving this treatment.
I hate to see anyone suffer with wd these days when there is a way not only to rapidly detox but also not walk away from that detox in constance turmoil, fighting to stay clean.
sisterwin2 1 year ago
@sisterwin2 u chat shit man iboga is not a cure, it didnt do shit for me, after 4 months ur depression is worse, i know another lady who committed suicided when the iboga came down, u really dont know what u talking about, i felt like u too on top of the world after iboga but when that iboga comes down ur in for a some shit trust me, i paid $over 3000 in mexico and all it did was hold me out for 4 months, but the shit returned, i was suboxone user for 3 years, switched to oxys then iboga.
SonyaOOOlights 1 year ago
lockdoc.... not true.. it sure is here in the good ole USA just underground.
sisterwin2 1 year ago
@MegaDhack Thought you might remove a treat to my life.
BUT I still have it in my Hotmail inbox!
I DON'T think drugs are cool.That's you delusions talking to you.
In one sentence you write "i smoke weed alott drink on weekends i aint do drugs".You are so off the Planet that you think weed isn't a drug.The spelling & language is very low.I think you need to stop doing drugs & go back to school.
HardWorkingNurse 1 year ago
i have been an amphetamine addict, and an alcoholic, both of which are easy to quit... you just stop.. but opiates, heroin in my case, have a different, catastrophic effect.. never addicted, i was always weary as alot of friends were screwed up.. didn't stop me doing a bucketload, but i never let it get me.. i am now drug free and baulk at the idea of using speed or meth, but the good feeling opiate lure for some reason is still there.. but i will not do it simply because i know.. evil shit
bmaxaus 1 year ago
You look like a zombie. Are you a zombie?
mikhasw 1 year ago
@mikhasw Yap. I am certainly a zombie. Especially in this video. "I want brain....."
balckbettystack 1 year ago
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lol, u fuckin puss. I was taking 30 grams of Ketamine a day for a year and then quit cold turkey in one day. I vomited in the morning, but went to work and shit. no one even knew. I'd do that shit all the time and you are just a weakling.
valdezmiguel2 1 year ago
@valdezmiguel2 No your a fucking idiot.And I am NOT weak.You are.Taking drugs to get away from something you can't cope with.
Ketamine, fucks with your head and by the way in which you write so angerily and state your superior just because you didn't really get a withdrawal, is pathetic & idiotic.
WD are NOT a competition.
I had Ketamine running through my veins,12mg an hour! Whilst in this video.So just under what you were on.
I DON'T usually attach back BUT you pissed me off big time.
balckbettystack 1 year ago 9
@balckbettystack .. morphine & dillie's eh.. weak drugs.. i sell them fur 20$ a pop.. hydromorph's are shitt.. & dilladas aint even close too a 80mg oxycontin.. so mikhasw is rite.. ur body prolly cant handle bullshit pills.. try takin larazapam for a week.. take another video.. n see the diffrence.
DrDell 1 year ago
@valdezmiguel2 ketamine isnt even an opiate and isnt physically addictive. you have no idea how hard it is, compared to meth or anything its in a class of its own. do a gram a day of heroin and then talk shit
Brizfriz 1 year ago
@valdezmiguel2 AND WHAT'S YOUR POINT? BESIDE SHOWING OFF TO A ILL PERSON
Vulturefood 1 year ago
@valdezmiguel2 and your a fuckin loser
matt135246 1 year ago
@valdezmiguel2 lmao @ ketamine...do people still do that? its not physically addictive anyway. let me shove an eigth of smack and 100mg of methadone into you system everyday for a year..then stop....see how good you do...ill be there making sure you go to work..lol..30 grams of ketamine..aw you made me giggle.
the7thwreck 1 year ago
@the7thwreck Are you trying to show off or something? Do you want a medal? "Oo I did methadone and heroin everyday and then stopped COLD TURKEY and went to WORK ya pussies! Im so hood!" yeah that sounds like your comment there...
beckasha83 1 year ago
@beckasha83 did you read that guys comment? I was havin a go at him for calling her a pussy cuz he came off ketamine and went to work the same day....read his comment and then you'll get mine..lol
the7thwreck 1 year ago
@the7thwreck lol gotcha.. .I must zip that comment to the douchbag... seriously who does ketamine anyways.. and how did he get his hands on it.. eh?
beckasha83 1 year ago
@valdezmiguel2 you do it all the time? Aren't you just awesome.
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mikeostapenko 1 year ago
@valdezmiguel2 are you fucking thick or what??? Drugs like ketamine DO NOT cause a withdrawal syndrome as that of heroin. You can take ket everyday for 20 yrs and still stop just like that. When addicted to heroin or any other opiate your brains discontinues the production of opiods as you are already taking it in from the drugs...when you stop the opiates it takes time for the brain to start producing again...thus creating THE WORST withdrawals a person could ever endure. FUCKING KET HAHAHAHAA
jrm1987murphy 1 year ago
@valdezmiguel2 Your an asshole. Instead of trying to uplift someone who is going through this situation you try and make it a fucking competion. Thats like if I had a cold, you brag because you have a cold too, your symtoms are worse, but you got over it faster. You should be motivating, praying and helping this woman, not bragging about being a fucking substance abuser. I would hate to be your friend, I can just imagine how you are in EVERY situation. Fucking discusting to me.
LayshaLynn 1 year ago
@valdezmiguel2 wow do you feel good dumping on other people?
kellina84 1 year ago
eeeee gad!!
lucaseason 1 year ago
you guys need to look into ibogaine.. no need to suffer thru wd these days.... its a choice but harsh.
sisterwin2 1 year ago 2
@sisterwin2 i have done research before. they don't use ibogain in the US i don't think. But again its not going to cure all. I read one report where a girl relapsed after her ibogain treatment and later committed suicide. But i do suggest every1 at least do some research on it. It really can help i hear.
LockDOTspot 1 year ago
@sisterwin2 My boyfriend is currently taking around 160mgs of Oxymorphone and Oxycontin daily and I had a friend suggest Ibogane to me...I've heard some REALLY great stuff on it and a lot of success stories...Sucks that it's not legal in the US. I wonder why...Hmm...
RiaRoseKnows 11 months ago
@RiaRoseKnows Its no success trust me. Over 80% of ppl relapse be cause the depression is bad after when iboga-ibogaine wears off. Those ppl who talk positive about it are either just dont iboga or are sellers wanting to make money. I done it trust me and belive me it destroys ur brain-cells. About 10 ppl had to be admitted to a mental health institution because ibogaine messed their receptors. The ratio of death is 10/150, that is scary. It doesnt work for the long term I promise u this.
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ljrecovery 1 year ago
@ljrecovery My problem is because of my pain I sometimes need to go back on pain killers.
I hate the things.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
ahhh i hate painkillers if only i knew what i was getting myself into before i started taking them. i underestamated addiction and how powerfull it really is and the shitty thing is every time i quit i end up back on them because i get to sick and put in the hospital (im waiting for a lung transplant) life fucking sucks in every way these days
boardingpass04 1 year ago
@boardingpass04 It's like a merry-go-around isn't it?
I feel the same way some times which is why I try NON OPIATE ways of dealing with my pain long before turning back to that shit.
I'm so sorry you are having to go through this.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
BOO FUCKING HOO YOU CRYBABY' GET OVER IT YOU PUSSY. HERE IS AN IDEAL KILL YOURSELF.
clevelandman2010 1 year ago
@clevelandman2010 Your mum must be so proud of the in-breed child she made with your Grandpa!
Do you really think saying this will make me cry and commit suicide???Fuck off.I laugh at you for being such a retarded individual.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@clevelandman2010 lol....you suck so hard its hilarious.Heres an idea...stfu. simple, then the world would be a better place. Its so cute reading childrens comments btw. made me smile.
the7thwreck 1 year ago
Addiction is a thought process, an obsession. Unfortunately that doesn't just go away when you stop using. Truth be told, the withdrawl is the easy part, although I am well aware it doesn't feel that way at the time. The hard part comes after the withdrawl.
Good luck to all those who know what i'm talking about.
EnterTheTerrible 1 year ago
@EnterTheTerrible its all hard.. dont sugar coat anything.. it sucks..
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Braazen1 1 year ago
I was taking the equivelent of 155 vicodin PER DAY and about 16 soma. Snorting the majority of it the last month. I was living in hell until I could get enough up my nose. Orally did almost nothing for me. it was a survival move as disgusting as it may be. I ran out and my doctor would not refill anything. After three days I went to him and laid down in the room. He was shocked at how bad I was. I got off 140 days later w/suboxone rehab in my house. was hell but did it. now ,4 yrs cln.
hi8sony 1 year ago
@hi8sony Congrats and well done.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@hi8sony As somebody who used to put vicodins up their nose... I'm having a hard time believing the 155 a day. Tell me the dosage of them and I'll tell you if I believe you.. not that you care.. but still..
beckasha83 1 year ago
@beckasha83 I just saw your comment. Yeah I get that a lot. I always need to clarify. I use the 155 vicodin to put it in perspective. What I actually had was about 16 40mg Oxycontin and 12 Norco along with 12 Soma per day. Every bit I was crushing and snorting including the Soma. I did so around every 2 to 3 hours. It was not fun. It was addiction. Out of control addiction. Taking them orally left me feeling bad. This level of usage lasted about 2 mos. then my doc. cut me off. Thnk God
hi8sony 1 year ago
@hi8sony Well I understand the point of that then, but in all honesty oxy is worse (when it comes to WDs) than vicodin. So I can only imagine what all that was like. I used to get about 180 lortab (10/500) a month and they'd be gone in less than a week. It's always good to get off of them before you die of it, yeah?
beckasha83 1 year ago
@beckasha83 You know it. The WD's were the worse thing I have ever gone through. I was so scared when I made the decision. The doctor gave me the option of refills or to start suboxone and then he would help me slowly wien of of that one. After 4 years I still take a 1mg dose of SubuTEX for my back pain which started this whole thing 14 years ago. I want off the subutex but am having a very hard time getting off it. I can't believe how hard it is. That and benzos are so dangerous. Thanks
hi8sony 1 year ago
@hi8sony Listen, when taken correctly, narcotics are a GOOD thing. There really isn't any sense in suffering in pain when something can be done about it. The thing is don't go overboard. I know it's tough as I've been there before. I am on ultram now... I sent you a private message though.
beckasha83 1 year ago
@hi8sony WELLDONE! Dont think the effort goes un-noticed, just remember how bad the worst of your using days were, that should make sure you dont go back. YOU RULE!
the7thwreck 1 year ago
this is so sad.... I have friends who are desperately hooked on oxy's and I have been watching their liver fall apart and now everything they do revolves around the next pill. Im so glad I never got into it. I hope you are feeling better now. : )
ChrisFlipsAlot 1 year ago
@ChrisFlipsAlot yeah Iv'e been great for quiet a while now.
Just made a new update. Check it out if you want?
I feel for people stuck on this shit.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
where did you go for this treatment???i head ibogaine is good but i cant afford that treatment
msnikish 1 year ago
@msnikish I was admitted from a general hospital where I was for investigation of intense chest pains (normal shit) to a Rehabilitation Hospital. NOT like Drug Rehab, but Rehab after accidents to get you walking & stuff again.
They wanted to send me back to a general hospital but I went through detox in this Rehab.
I will do some research on Ibogaine.
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Georgie2500 1 year ago
Opiates sure were fun, had lots of fun on them many weekends. Then those weekends turned into 3 day weekends, then 4 days a week but only at night. Then from 4 to 6 days then to 7. Then not just at night, but in the morning and night, that was right before I found myself taking them all day everyday. WOW, what happened to all the fun? Well they stopped being fun when thats all you think about because you don't want to feel sick if you don't have them. God, what a waste of time.
DarkTruth33 1 year ago
@DarkTruth33 ya it sucks are you off now?
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mdcombs79 1 year ago
Im soooo glad I just read 'ketamine....can cause detox;...i never knew that.
the7thwreck 1 year ago
@the7thwreck @the7thwreck Ketamine assists in the detox/withdrawal process. It doesn't cause detox and withdrawals.
The strange thing it does do is when you finally finish detoxing, if you were suffering pain that got you on pain killers in the first place, that it tends to re-set the pain receptors in the brain making your ability to tolerate pain a lot stronger.
This has happened to many people who have detoxed with Ketamine.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@balckbettystack you mean i can tak K to help get off dope? man i dont want K in me, the same way i cant use E or acid anymore i wouldt like the feeling anymore i cringe at the thought of doing those drugs again
msnikish 1 year ago
@msnikish I HATED and still do hate Ketamine.
It has to be used under complete medical supervision. Not just doing K when the withdrawals hit.
It's used a lot in Australia for pain control, especially for people who are dying. Then they found it can ease withdrawal symptoms. But I think having Ketamine in my system is MUCH WORSE than withdrawal with nothing.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
My buddy took a naltrexone with a 240mg/day oxycodone habit, while he was high. He screamed for 5 hours. He did it at home in his bed. He sweated so bad that he literally soaked 2 blankets, sheet sets, mattress... I saw the whole thing from beginning to end. I wanted to call 911 but my other friend who is a nurse was there and said everything was OK, in that he wasn't in need of 911.
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930 Was he INNNSSSAAANNNEEE????
the7thwreck 1 year ago
@christo930 I tried something similar. I had a very large heroin habit. I was so desperate, that I thought I could put all the sickness in one day, and be finished with it. So I popped a 50mg Naltrexone. It nearly killed me. I nearly killed myself, as well. It was the most miserable thing I have even been through in my life. What is really crazy, is that I tried this on 2 different occasions. It failed both times. If your friend still has a problem, check out my page. There is a cure. Just look.
ibogahelp 1 year ago
@ibogahelp That was about 7 years ago. Shorty after that experience he went on methadone maint and was on it for about 5 years and I think is still clean.
christo930 1 year ago
@ibogahelp naltrexone?? doctors told me not take that unless i was opiate free for a day or so and that i would get sicck if i took that
msnikish 1 year ago
@msnikish Yes, very sick. What we are talking about is a stupid, desperate, junky detox. It is an attempt to compress all the sickness into a short time by forcing it on with Naltrexone. "Self rapid detox". So you can very SUPER-SUPER sick for a few days, as opposed to regular super dope sick for a month. That is the logic, anyway. It is a terrible idea. It is amongst the most horrific of experiences a person can go through. Naltrexone is not a good thing. Very unhealthy, and very dangerous.
ibogahelp 1 year ago
@ibogahelp i did an an outpatient detox where they gave me adavan and clonodine, trazedone to help sleep at night and ritilin to help perk up in the morning and after a few days they gave me naltrexone to take but i didnt , thats the first and last time i ever heard of anyone prescribing that...you are the first person i heard mention naltrexone....i guess its not common or is it for at home detoxes?
msnikish 1 year ago
@msnikish No, it was NOT intended for home detox. Naltrexone is very dangerous.Two uses: One is to use in doctor assisted detox, where they sedate you with powerful muscle relaxers and tranquillizers. It sucks, and success is 0%. Cost, $20,000. The other use is as an opiate blocker. Theory: you use heroin, nothing happens, so you don't waste your money. The cravings are just as strong as ever, though. Life can really suck if you are not motivated enough. Naltrexone is very sad. No good feelings
ibogahelp 1 year ago
@ibogahelp they gave it to me after i was done with the adavan and clonodine, and told me i couldnt get high if i took it.really $20,000? hell no thats crazy....are you drug free now??ya life does suck when not motivated, i just left a 7 day detox last week, and back to same shit, i dont know what it gonna take, been homeless, been to psych wards, been locked up, had family stop talk to me, lost possessions gained them ans lost it all again and again, od'd i hate this
msnikish 1 year ago
@msnikish That's really sad.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@msnikish One withdrawal I had to go through I took the Clonadine/Catapres, Valium and Temazepam for home Detox. It did help. Mkaes me feel stupid going through Cold Turkey BUT I prefer that is over and done with.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
What I meant was that nobody is going to go through withdrawals after only 4 weeks of using opiates. So stop " mocking" those who really know what withdrawals are !!
Moron ~~~
Th3Or4cle 1 year ago
@Th3Or4cle Oh fuck you. Your so stupid and pathetic. Enjoy your drugs. And goodbye.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@Th3Or4cle I agree boo hoo baby you have a minor habit problem after 4 weeks thats a joke and this is from the mouth of a methadone doctor.....after four weeks you are still in the baby stage of addiction....which means no physical symptoms besides restlessness and it is all in your head of course you will feel 'pain' when u quit 'painkillers' because you have been numb to that pain 4 a few wks. but that my darling idiot is not withdrawls.....they occur after such a long period that your brain
isadora7717 1 year ago
@isadora7717 has been so chemically re-wired that you will never feel normal for up to years after quitting. u have overused your dopamine and serotonin and blasted ur transmitters to hell(which transfer the chemicals to parts of the body in pain etc.,) during ur constant use which are chemicals that ur body produces to feel happy or at ease or to lower your pain! like endorphins are released during exercise, in this you will feel so bad you wouldn't be bragging about it to a camera. udon'tknow
isadora7717 1 year ago
@isadora7717 Well your just an idiot.
I think my Neurosurgeon who was supervising this detox must sure be stupid.Because he shure saw the pain I was in which is why he put me on Catapres & Valium.
You,if true,dole out drugs.You are NOT there when someone detoxes.A TOTALLY different situation.
DON'T you dare bag me!You have NO IDEA of what pain I went through with this dam withdrawal.So shut your fucking mouth OK?
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@isadora7717 So your a Methodone Doctor!?
Why is your spelling & punctuation not correct?
Why are you looking for assistance/help to quit Methodone?
Methodone Doc.......Get over yourself.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@balckbettystack He's as much of a doctor as he is an immature SOB. I've been through benzo's and opiates withdrawl....something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
bigmrclean 1 year ago
@bigmrclean Yeah I know.
Get sick of so called 'Doctors/Experts' (drug addicts themselves) coming to my sites and sprouting off to make themselves feel better. And me worse. Which doesn't work.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@balckbettystack
O.K. here this is the same person logged in from a different acct.
and you totally mis-interpreted what I said here and took it completely out of context
I meant this is coming from the mouth of my methadone doctor, I am relaying what he said.....I have been a patient of his for 3 years plus and have had this terrible addiction for over 6 yrs. so I do know alot on the subject....I sounded a little insensitive and I apologize
danieljgdenomy 1 year ago
@danieljgdenomy cont......I just thought that you saying you were going through such bad withdrawls after just 4 weeks seemed to be a pre-mature claim considering others situations, not to say that you didn't suffer as we all know that this can be hell. It's just that if you were able to post yourself on here it couldnt have been that bad for u. I couldnt do that while sweating and shivering, having muscle spasms so intense so want to knock urself out, vomiting out both ends, stomach cramping,
danieljgdenomy 1 year ago
@danieljgdenomy cont.... nose running, crying, pain so intense you want to kill yourself. I just wouldnt be posting that kind of suffering on public doamin for all to see and to comment and then complain when people say what you don't want to hear, well that just seems strange to me. I don't know what you went through. I wasn't there and I"m sure it was awful. People who come on here looking up this subject are looking for ANSWERS and it is comforting to know there are others who undertsand.
danieljgdenomy 1 year ago
@danieljgdenomy I put the videos on public because I wanted to educate people.Open people's eyes.That happened being found by 60 Minutes Australia.
Yeah I know people bitch and complain on my sight.Less than the supporters.And I'm fine with that or I would have put a bar on comments or just not showed the videos.
Many, many,many people have come on here to find help.And I have helped quiet a few of them.
Were you looking for help when you stumbled along?
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@balckbettystack i think its great what your doing!! people really shouldnt bitch and complain. everyone thinks their story is the worst.. First hand i could tell you, it doesnt matter how it started.. once it starts, its all the same thing...
hasonopinion 1 year ago
@hasonopinion I have noticed that big time on here.Withdrawals seem to be a comp.There not!Withdrawals are withdrawals.
Sometimes you can find it easy.Other times,super hard.But we ALL feel the same crap when going through this.
I have used my experiences to put on here to educate people.That I have done.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@danieljgdenomy They were tapped by me and my son BUT were not put on Youtube until the detox was well over. I couldn't have done it in detox.
Also if you watch the whole video through you would have heard me say that I had severe chest pain right then filming. This is the same pain that causes me to take pain killers. That's why this video seems to catch people's eyes. I was in pure pain and in detox.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@danieljgdenomy Well you called me an 'idiot' and a 'moron' who was moking people.
You also upset a LOT of others on here.
But I am not so big I can not accept an honest appology. Thank you.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@isadora7717 Oh you are not a methadone doctor, why? Because you would've lost your liscence in an instant for talking to people that way. Not only that, doctors have a tendency to have better grammar. Stop trying to get people to pay attention to what you say, when nobody cares. I think it's probably you are a NURSE or a secretary at a methadone clinic and have never experienced real pain before so you bash on these people because they are desperate or help. STFU and GTFO!
beckasha83 1 year ago
@isadora7717 what about when u have had a history of opiate addiction or being prescribed opiate pain meds, get clean for years then get a 4 week habit? The WDs are just as distressing, you say theres a difference? but its hard to tell, when you are withdrawing youre withdrawing..not sitting there going 'im fuckin ill but at least its 10% easier....'
the7thwreck 1 year ago
@Th3Or4cle Really? If you have been on opiates in the past, got clean then started again at a future point if only for 4 weeks you WILL withdraw as bad as when you were a constant user.Its something that happens in the body or to the pain receptors that causes such a phenomenon. Im an addict of 12yrs and so I know, I dont get why you think 'blackbettystack' is 'mocking'. she knows more about this shit than many illicit drug users as shes completely legit.
the7thwreck 1 year ago
Withdrawals ? After 4 weeks Hahahahahaahahaha ur an idiot. You have no idea what withdrawals are ... try it after 30 years
Th3Or4cle 1 year ago
@Th3Or4cle You know I have found out something with my videos on her?. That people like you BELIEVE withdrawals are a competition. There not! Ok? We all suffer the same. So get off your high horse and realise your just the same as everyone else. Human.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
shitty quality.
fr3d420 1 year ago
@fr3d420 That's because I was doing the filming myself WHILE going through major withdrawals.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
ketamine is fucking sick
pockthehairy 1 year ago
@pockthehairy I hated every second of it.
I was crying to have it taken down as it's was an infusion. So I kept on getting 8mg's a hour.
How can you enjoy that feeling? Those feelings? Seeing and smelling things that aren't there?
I'm NOT judging. I just want to better understand that's all. Thanks.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@balckbettystack Removes your ego, makes thoughts become visions. If you learn from it properly and understand what's happening it's like having a religious experience haha. It makes me feel like I understand everything and puts me at ease with the world. You sort of feel what you see, everything is one. I think basically it's a scary experience if you don't really know what it does; the feeling that I was dying was scary the first few times I guess but after that it's rewarding.
pockthehairy 1 year ago
Everybody going through this: Stay Strong! Thank god I have parents who care about me (I'm 24 -- and they still helped me out)
Without them keeping an eye on me I would fall right back into the pills. I was taking up to 15 30mg roxicodones a day...I'm on day 4.
jschudar 1 year ago
@jschudar You can get through this too.
Now on it get's so much better.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
When I came off Oxys I stopped Cold ! how you ask ? Well by using POT lots and lots of POT !!! not once did I feel withdraw or insomnia !!! not once did I feel depressed of full !! I gained wight and felt Good . End of story
simplistiCI 1 year ago
@simplistiCI I have only tried pot once and didn't like how uncontrolled it made me feel.
That's why I NEVER become psychologically addicted to my pain meds as I hate the buzz. I don't know how people can enjoy it.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@balckbettystack YOu took it for pain right ? I took mine for the Feel . Before I was addicted to Oxy it was first Cigarettes then Weed then beer then xTc then shrums then I got of all of it . 2 years later Oxy enter my life and this is where the crazy roller coster started . Oxy is more addictive then any drug Iv ever used . God is healing me from al addictions and im thankful for a loving God who cares ( This life is pain but Gods kingdom will be wonders beyond are reasoning
simplistiCI 1 year ago 2
@simplistiCI
Shut the fuck up you stupid ass retard. Jesus is stroking my balls as we speak you gay bitch. Christianity is a false hope and lie to suck in the weak and pathetic.
The0neAndOnlyX 1 year ago
@simplistiCI thats bullshit straight bullshit do not lisen to this dude
MrRobertbarre 1 year ago
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Georgie2500 1 year ago
GET IN THE ZONE GIRL....AN THAT DILUDEN SHIT SOUNDS DECENT TOO, SO GET ON IT. DEAD HARD......
flicker1969 1 year ago
Yeah I got hooked on Dilaudid / Oxycodone as a result of multiple abdominal surgeries due to Crohns disease. I would have never ever personally chose to take prescription opioid pain killers for shits and giggles otherwise. I entered the hospital with one problem and left with another (opioid addiction). I’m on suboxone now but I still don’t feel like my self by a long shot! I don’t have withdrawals but I just feel spaced out and never want to nor have a desire to do a damn thing!
fstms3 1 year ago
Suboxone works... it is also easy to get off of. Pass it on.
DRDNIBOY 1 year ago
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TheMontageUploads 1 year ago
I'm leaving my house in 20 minutes for a doctor's appointment. Going to be my first attempt at kicking a two year addiction to heroin. This video was the last thing I wanted to see before that, haha.
sullivenomous 1 year ago
One word " IBOGAINE" One time. That is all it takes. Addiction is over!!!
geckkoe 1 year ago
When I was on heroin, somehow my mom came across a couple naltraxone pills and while I was in the bathroom she crushed one up in my iced-tea. 20 minutes later I went to shoot up and instead of a nice rush of euphoria I got instant horrible withdrawls that lasted 2 days, and its not like you can just take a whole bunch of opiates to overcome the naltraxone because you only get sicker, just got to ride it out. Wanted to kill the fuckin bitch.
TomRock81 1 year ago
hahahaha they gave you KETAMINE??!! WTF man that is nuts, i have never heard of a doctor administering that except on animals! haha i tried it when i was in high school, my friend got a huge amount for a good price and we would do it in the bathroom between classes and shit sometimes (i was wild then). That was one of the strangest drugs I have ever taken, made my palms sweat, colors REALLY bright, and even walking is difficult, thats just a first for me never heard that b4
TheTbp2006 1 year ago
its a hard battle...
just try and be happy
jacob32413 1 year ago
You need to stop making these videos. I see you sick one day and other days you would feel fine. You need to decide if you are going to stay on drugs or off. Your making people feel stupid watching your videos. Make up your mind! I suggest you see a good doctor. But not for detox. This is all about you. So think real hard to find a pernminent solution. No punt intended. I just want to help.
I hope you come up with the solution that will make you feel better.
mymd11 1 year ago
I'll write to you personally.But these videos were done for a TV show.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
That's a little harsh my friend. If you haven't gone through opiate withdrawls you don't know what you're talking about. I have been through them and I become suicidal because I would rather be dead than feel that intense pain. I'm going into a detox program this week after about 8 months on vicodin, now tolerance is up to 30 vicodin 5/500 a day. I've commited myself to getting off of it no matter what it takes, it has ruined my life.
blumac81 1 year ago 7
I wish you well in your detox.
Let me know how you go please?
Good luck.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
Thanks buddy. Though the VA changed plans on me, we agreed suboxone treatment would be best for me, but can't in till March 31st. Till then I guess I'll taper down, or use vicoprofen, I don't want to hurt my liver anymore, and I am still as committed as ever for getting off of this. If I need to, I'll go into inpatient detox before the 31st. Opiates are just plain evil!
blumac81 1 year ago
That's great.
You CAN do it.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@balckbettystack update for me, still on suboxone 2mg twice a day. The transition from hyrdocodone was easy (cause they're both opiates), now my worry is how to get off the suboxone. My doc wants me to cut down to 3mg a day, but when I take that half a pill I yawn a lot and am sensitive to pain. Eventually I'll have to do it, but have just been putting it off.
blumac81 1 year ago
@blumac81 When your ready you will do it.
You have already progressed to being clean.
I am very proud of you.
Well done.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
holy shit, and i thought my 7 a day was bad
letsgoforajoyride 1 year ago
@blumac81
Why can not she share the video with the world? It might help other people.Why are you against her making these videos?They are very useful!
wannaknowit 1 year ago
@wannaknowit My videos HAVE helped many, many people who have contacted me for suggestion andd support.
Yeah Is howed the World a horrible part of my life BUT I have been of my meds for 3 years.
So thank you.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@blumac81 5/500? 30 a day? dude, the tylenol is gonna kill you before the oxycodone ever does. holy shit. your liver must hate you. at least do a cold water extraction or something.
migbee 1 year ago
@blumac81 I see that it has been a while since you left this message. But if you get this please let me know how you did on the detox program with vicodin. I have tried so many times to get off of this stuff but the pain and the depression is unbearable. I can't stand being on this anymore. I can't do anything. My quality of life just sucks. I'm always tired and irritable. Please let me know how you did if you get this. Thank you so much! =)
Sunflower7602 1 year ago
@Sunflower7602 Hey there! Suboxone detox is going just fine as long as I have my 8mg dose twice a day and everything is fine. When I try to cut down or I miss a dose I fill it though, I get really anxious and have aches and pains, and yawn a lot for some reason. So, it's gonna take a while to get off the suboxone, but I hear that many people stay on it for the rest of their lives and do fine. Still gonna try to get off of it, I'm probably gonna have to cut the pill in quarters. Thanks
blumac81 1 year ago
@blumac81 Thank you so much for getting back to me. Would you say that suboxone is really worth trying?? There is a place here close to me that is an outpatient rehab facility and they give you suboxone. But I am afraid of getting hooked on that. I have been on vicodin for a year now and it is killing me. It's making me really sick and my life just sucks b/c of it. Is this something that you would stay on for the rest of your life?
Sunflower7602 1 year ago
@blumac81 I am into the 3rd week off saboxone, i tapered to 2mg a day for over a month. I am still very sick at 3 weeks i had no idea this would be so painful. If i could have got my hands on any opoid i would have gone back to it. But now at 3 weeks it is starting to subside, I am very wek and still don't sleep well. I was a 6 year opoid addict. I looks like you can get off Saboxone but you may need 3 weeks or so and a strong constitution. Good Luck to all who jump off. Get your dose to 1/2 mg
tom6431 1 year ago
@tom6431 dude your story there freaking scares the crap out of me. Luckily my doctor is okay with me tapering down only when I am ready. It's really that painful? Man I'm just gonna stay on it forever, I'm not going through that withdrawl shit again, withdrawl make me want to put a gun in my mouth I shit you not. Please don't even respond to this, it's too depressing.
blumac81 1 year ago
@blumac81 30 5/500 vicodin a day? the amount of Acetimetiphen you are ingesting there is enough to kill 2 poeople?? you should be dead if not a few times over my friend :(
XxMaLcLmPwNsxX 1 year ago
@XxMaLcLmPwNsxX Your right.
The max does, we call it paracetamol, is 4,000mg a day.That's 8 tablets.
blumac81 you are taking almost 3 and a half times the safe dose of paracetamol.
Do you get pains in your stomach area?
Youv'e got me worried now.
balckbettystack 1 year ago
@balckbettystack I don't take that any more silly lol. Last year my liver finally did break down and I experienced the worst nausea (and vomiting) I had ever felt in my life. That and the doctor saying that if I continued taking it I would die by age 30. So I switched to Suboxone and still am on it, I'm fine with being on it forever it has few and sometime no side effects.
blumac81 1 year ago
@XxMaLcLmPwNsxX I was only in the minor leagues my friend. If you research it a bit you'll see there are people who take hundreds of the pill several times a day. But ya 15,000 mg aceutamenaphine a day sure kicks the crap out of your liver! I take milk thistle now.
blumac81 1 year ago
@blumac81 ik, i snort around 800mg's of morphine a day in the form of MS Contin. i could take hundreds of the vics too, but not that acetimetaphen lmao... of course any amount of tolerance can be reached, but whats to brag about, i have to snort that much morphine to stay out of a phycosis state, , thank god theres a methadone clinic where i live. i used to be up to like 120mg of hydromorphone rectal at one point hahaha good ol days. now methadone everyday rest of my life :(
XxMaLcLmPwNsxX 1 year ago
@XxMaLcLmPwNsxX I know what you mean about that psycosis state, it's like being in hell. Seriously though methadone maintenance is not necessary anymore, switch to suboxone and you can do your own dosing with little chance of relapse.
blumac81 1 year ago
@blumac81 suboxone doesnt work for me for some reason... doesnt take all the cravings and leaves me with insomnia ik methadone is pretty much absolute for most people but i prefer it over suboxone and it keeps me going :) worse then hell tho man, it honestly feels as if a divine spirit were raping my soul reaching deap into the pits of my imagination and forcing me to continue opiates. sometimes like once every couple weeks i have to use a strong opiate or ill go crazy and may harm others :(
XxMaLcLmPwNsxX 1 year ago
@XxMaLcLmPwNsxX oops I forgot about this post, then disregard my suggestion to try suboxone. That's odd that it doesn't work on you. Typically it works on patients addicted to vicodin, oxycodone, and heroin, I haven't heard much about it working for morphine or opium or hydromorphone. It definitely does not work for ultram (don't ever start with that crap)
blumac81 1 year ago
@blumac81 well i mostly used instant release morphine and hydromorphone rectally after a while since my sinus cavity's are permenantly damaged and the only way other then shooting was rectal which works almost as good but the WD's are ridiculous becuase even know it is not as fact acting as intravaneous its still a different route of adminastration and theres different effects on the body... nyhow ive managed to detox on codiene untill i am maintained on mehadone, its legal here in canada
XxMaLcLmPwNsxX 1 year ago
Then how come i did hydros for a year straight and came off them with no insane crawling rage effects ??? but with oxy i did ?? methadone i taperd off fine .. a little discomfort but no serious raging withdrawl
iTzzEuphoriaaaaaa 2 years ago
Every bodies body & brain is different.
Some drugs are a softer withdrawal others are harsh.
balckbettystack 2 years ago
@balckbettystack why didnt u just slowly take less and less each day instead of just goin cold turkeY? thats what im gonna do when i wanna quite snorting oxycontin pills
IamInYourClosett 2 years ago
A times I do BUT I was in hospital at the time they decided that because the meds weren't working I had to go on Ketamine and detox straight off.
It was so hard.
balckbettystack 2 years ago
God i wish rapid detox was free in my country its about 30 grand
iTzzEuphoriaaaaaa 2 years ago
America needs to change it's system.
It's really broken.Those who are so sick who need to use it can't as they can't afford it.
The USA needs preventative medicine.
balckbettystack 2 years ago
i know and its the doctors fault in the first place i mean the doctors should fucking pay for all the rehab expensis
iTzzEuphoriaaaaaa 2 years ago
Hi Betty, so, I started taking percocets for spina bifida acculta and Spondiolysis (or something like that) both having to do with my spine. I have been trying to get off pain killers for months now, and ALWAYS end up going back to them. Now, I've been able to start the cutdown and eventually can get to 15mg every 12 hours, and now in the process of cutting down to 15mg every 24 hours. Its just been extremely difficult to get past that hurdle. Any advice? I can't STAND withdrawals!!!
48Donbray 2 years ago
Hi Donbray.
I will send you a personal e-mail as I need a bit more room and space than this box gives me.
I hope to write today.
balckbettystack 2 years ago
Everybody tries to pull that bullshit saying they take drugs to cope with other problems ... well im callin bullshit .. i took drugs simply becuz they made me feel great
iTzzEuphoriaaaaaa 2 years ago