what really is hitting inside the ball? can you check my video of me hitting i believe i hit rotational but i dont know about staying inside the ball, please help.
One's proper swing is neither down, up or level, With a pitcher standing on a ten inch mound the ball basically travels towards you on a downward plane, Basically one's bat knob is held app. ear high & parallel to rear shoulder above one's strike zone, to meet the ball squarely one must bring one's knob and hands down directing the barrel down into a level plane with the downward flight of the ball into a slight up swing creating app. 12to18" of bat to ball carry.
most comments areTypical Little League mentality. The Swing MUST match the plane of the pitched ball. Not Downward. Hitting grounders is a youth ball method because the players make many errors. At the NEST Level(High School,College etc) you must drive the ball over the infielders head. No you don't swing down for backspin, No you don't hit the top of the ball. That's all youth ball crap. A good hitter hits from the ground up!
you dont have time in real baseball to match the plane of anything..the body creates a stretch between the hands and back hip,the body holds the stretch and the hands turn into the ball..you have a 1/4 second,,you aint matching anything in that time.
They don't swing level or up. They swing down at the ball in turn trying to create back spin on the ball that makes it travel. The bat finishes up with extension through the zone. The misconception is that people swing up at a ball but try it after little league with competitive pitching and you will not have much success.
Nobody is swinging up at the ball...it is a level swing. By dropping the back shoulder you allow the bat head to travel at the plane on which the pitch is coming in. It also allows the bat head to stay in the hitting zone longer therefore making better contact. 90% of the pros do it. If it was something that would hurt their chances of hitting the ball they wouldnt do it.
Ladies. Quit looking at it as an upswing. They are simply swing level to the ball. A ball at someones letters will require a level swing. Al ball at the knees will require an upswing. Yes, u do have to start down towards the ball, the difference is where u start coming back up. Linear coaches teach swing down to point of contact. Rotational coaches teach a much earlier upswing. Every batter in this video is rotational, just like the majority of the major leagues
they're not just swinging up they're hands are going from their load position down to the ball with the barrel following through the strike zone or where ever its pitched. the upward motion is because its a SWING. no one swings down. thats like hitting fungo. a swing motion goes down, level, then up to finish.
Idiots... ha we have already had that conversation. Read below.... And what yall say about a compact swing.. No extension = no power. It doesnt have to be so much compact...Its just making sure your hands are PUSHED straight to the ball from their starting point. If your hands are moving straight to the ball. Shortest distance between 2 points = straight line.
Major leaguers are there because they had a swing that was successful, consistent, and powerful. It's called a swing for a reason -- not a chop. Hands are short to the ball, but the barrel of the bat is on an arc.
A good swing is a good swing. No such thing as a big league swing and a little league swing. Watch hitters in slow motion and you will see the same action with the bat.
Turning to the instep of the back foot allows the knee to go to the pitcher. When the kids are taught to squish the bug- they rotate to the outside and end up coming around the ball. I 100% agree with getting inside the ball to create the bat lag to gain the explosion of bat speed to the ball.
Bottomline for me is a good swing is compact and explosive. Using a combination of weight shift and rotation. Whatever % is best for each particular hitter determined by the hitter, ultimately.
What happened to wspp60? he got so pissed he sent me a message. when I tried to reply his account was closed.
Tousche Casper. Thats why you dont here college/professional coaches teach "squash the bug" If complete rotation happens before anything else, that outside pitch disapears from your "hot zone" Impact, sounds like you just watch videos and decide you know it. If you go and actually hit, youll find out that if you end up on the outside of your backfoot, you over rotated.
I would agree. I'm not sure what you mean by inside of the back foot? On pitches middle in most hitters will be up on their back toe and on oppo they won't pivot as far. If not on the back toe, they haven't rotated all the way.
Palm up/down is one of the things most agreed upon no matter what the opinion on hitting is, in my experience.
JC Video is awesome. Its also the least expensive for the individual user.
The turn on the back foot goes to the instep instead to the outside of the foot.. This allows the hip or the knee to go to the pitcher creating a good turn to the ball.
I use JC Video and have studied over 500 MLB swings. Two things that stay consistent are the turn to the inside of the back foot and palm up/ palm down at contact! The correct turn allows the hitter to take the inside path to the ball and palm up/dow allows more bat speed. Some coaches teach players to hit with the top hand vertical feeling this adds more support at impact. This does not happen.
Kieth- I have asked the main scout for the Angels and he said all he looks for in hitters are quick hands. I just say Jason Bay take an outside pitch off of the wall in Fenway. I have video analyzing software that slow the players swings down to 1/100 of a second. Paired with super slow mo from Th Homerun Derby- you can see exactly what they do.Most of the great players land with the front foot opened to clear the hips to allow the bat to go onto plane. Front shoulder stays closed to get torque
if you ever get the chance, ask a scout, or a proffessional hitter. Hitters dont change their swing . (minus cal ripken) It wont impress anyone that you hit a ball 400 ft. A blind squirrel will find his nut.. Its about consistency. Now get back on the tee, change your swing everytime you hit, and see how well you keep the same bat speed, quality contact etc. Or just watch a game on tv. Even college baseball players know how to be consistent for the most part.
Nah mechanics is just another way for saying basics. Like getting your foot down early, staying inside the ball, making contact out infront of your body etc. Styles are different ways to do it.... Watch guys like frank thomas, garrett anderson, juan gonzales etc. = momentum style hitting. They basically transfer their weight really hard to their front side while they are in mid swing. You can see in some pics their back foot is off the ground.
Keith, obviously you don't know the difference between a style and actual hitting mechanics!
Just curious, what determines when these pro hitters use a particular style? Is it pitch to pitch, at bat to at bat or just when they feel like changing???
Whats explosion hitting? does the ball explode?
I agree with you about the hips. The kindergartner wants them to fly open. Good luck with oppo!
Watch your "hitters" closer. What you describe (hips rotate 1st) can only be a dead pull hitter. Dont believe it and you want to test that theory, get on a tee. Get in a position where you have already loaded and rotated.. Now stay in that position and hit outside pitches off the tee and let us know how well you get to that ball... good luck with that.
little more to hitting mechanics than just " swing your hips out 1st, and tuck your back elbow." as he says. Sounds like somebody watched a video clip of one swing and decided Thats it! What about hitting against your front side? staying closed? leading with the knob of the bat to the ball? keeping hands infront of the ball? wrist whip? leverage? contact out infront? inside half of the ball? extension? balance points? finishing above the ball?
Ha, yeah.. Go take a few swings, with your hips going out 1st.. then try to hit an outside pitch and let us know how it works out for ya.. Keep telling hitters to rotate hips 1st, and that rotating means tucking your back elbow.. your on your way to some success...Let me guess...you think power comes from your legs?? and the ball goes 500 ft when you swing up?? and you hit harder if you hit off your front foot?
You need to go back to school and study hitting if you dont think the hips lead the way. The front foot opens up to allow the hips to clear while the back elbow tucks to get on plane with the ball. It is consistent with most MLB hitters that hit for power. You must be coaching LL to beat out grounders. Make your kids happy and let them hit the ball to the outfield?
Hey casper- Pay attention - they tuck the back elbow to rotate to the ball. You need to look at people in super slo-mo! Sorry I thought I stated this real simple. You must be in High school!
"Proffessional hitters" don't conform to 1 style. There is explosion hitting, momentum hitting, plane hitting and others.. staying behind the ball just means your hitting the ball out infront of your body, not even with the center of, or behind your body. all you have to do to stay inside of the ball is lead your swing with the knob of the bat.
Idiots... Most people who are 1 dimensional about a baseball swing are either little league coaches, or guys that heard one thing and assume its the only possible way to get it done.."Proffessional hitters" don't conform to one style. There is (explosion hitting, momentum hitting, plane hitting, etc.)
You just turned "hit the ball square" into something complicated.
If your hands start around shoulder height, how can you go up from there?
Everyone hits rotationally and if you don't have any weight shift, you are not maximizing your swing EVERY video of every pro hitter on every "rotational" website shifts their weight from back to center.
Good luck to you who are following advice from the rock skipping Donny, the old physics professor or the one armed, long winded guru from Sugarland! lol
It is real simple here- MLB hitters tuck the back elbow to put the bat on plane to hit the ball square. I spoke to Rick Anliel a few months back and he said" I just try and hit the ball square and I know good things will happen." The hands have to be in the palm up/ palm down position at contact for this to happen. Have you ever heard " Get inside the ball or behind the ball" you cant do this by swinging down! The best hitters in the game hit Rotational to accomplish this!
All wrong.. There is no right/wrong when it comes to tucking your back elbow or keeping it up. Simple anatomy or biology of the human body will tell you a loose muscle is a fast muscle. It doesnt matter if the elbow is up, down or straight with the hands behind the shoulder.. As long as the body/hands are loose and relaxed the hitter will see maximum batspeed/wrist action through the ball
Also wrong about swinging level and or swinging up. Lift is created by backspin. Backspin comes from the bat head coming down to the ball.. If Swinging up was proper you would see hitters keeping their hands down by their hips so they can swing up.. You dont... every hitter brings their hands from above the strike zone, which for those who dont know starts at the chest and ends at the knees...All these clips you show, if you watch closely, the bat head is above the ball right before contact..
Also wrong about "using your hips to get your hands moving" Watch a major league baseball game once in a while.. pay attention.. Every hitter has their hands out in front of their body when they make contact.. If your hips start your swing, the hands lag behind. You can start your swing with your hips and swing up all you want, but no scout or coach will be impressed about what youre doing..
by through the ball I'm not referring to the angle. ie. I don't mean down through the ball. a slight upward angle is fine bcuz the pitcher is on a mound higher than the plate. through the ball means palm up/palm down with extension out front.
Caspermilktoast77, I've read some of your post. Your the ignorant one. You bash people on here and you have no idea of their background or experiance. Learn what it takes to be a great hitter and hitting coach, then and only then will you be able to distinguish the amature coaches from the pros. and by pro I don't nessecerly mean MLB coaches... There are quacks in those ranks as well. I know, I have family and friends both players and coaches in the Yankees, Angels, Rays, Rockies and Braves org.
the pros use rotational hitting keeping their back elbow close to their side, dropping their bat head below their hands... their head tilts in relation to where the pitch is thrown
Blake5271, Most pros don't start with elbows at or near their sides. Their elbows move to and through the area near the side and waist and on out through extension. Some call this addition (like Mike Candrea, Team USA and Sue Enquist, former head coach, UCLA womens softball). I believe you need to hit the ball square (on plane with the pitch) at or just below the center of the ball for the back spin needed to create lift.
No, back spin comes from your backside, a lezel swing is the best way to hit a baseball, perhaps a little uppercut at most ie: Pujols, Reyes etc. The most important part of hitting is how hard you turn your backside! That turns your hips, that gets ur hands going, and then a nice level, line drive swing will put enough backspin on the ball to send it into the cheap seats.
correct! you swing down TO the plane that the ball is on. 'through the ball', then up and out for a nice follow through. there are different ways to say the same thing.
just dont get duped by the internet-guru types who say they are experts and dont really know their asss from a hole in the ground. when you use the term "rotational hitting", people know your so-called knowledge came from an internet nobody like Englishby or Mankin or Nyman!!!
the path is an arc around the body. First of course the arc goes down(to get on the plane of the pitch), but by the time you make contact it goes up again(like the plane of the pitch).
correct! and everyone hits rotationally, hence saying "rotational" hitting is redundant and maybe even moronic. some don't do it correctly, but all hitters try to use their hips. its common knowledge that power comes from the hips. what isn't common knowledge is how to do it correctly! squishing the bug isn't the way nor is throwing your hips! if you have the proper heel toe action with your feet, your hips will work correctly! and the power actually comes from your core.
Of course there is a time the hands go down in roational hitting. You have a circular hand path: first it arcs down, than up again. The swing is like a golf swing.
Hitting down would mean that the hands go down all th time, which is not the case. The hands go first down, then up again.
no, you don't swing down...the first movement is your back elbow driving toward your back hip area which drops your bat head down below your hands on the plane of the pitch...watch big league players in slow motion...the productive hitters do this
It looks like a downward motion but it isn't. The hitters are leveling the bat to the path of the ball. The only time it may be downward is on a low inside ball where you have to "golf" it.
yes they do swing down on the ball.there first movement of the bat is downward so they can get level with the ball then pull up yes. dont go giving kids wrong information they need to first swing down to succeed.
Moving the bat head down when slotting the back elbow is different than swinging down toward an oncoming pitch. Try chopping down on a fast ball and all you will get is grounder if you make contact at all. If viewed from the side you will see the hitter's hands going around his body not down and up.
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caspermilktoast77 1 year ago
what really is hitting inside the ball? can you check my video of me hitting i believe i hit rotational but i dont know about staying inside the ball, please help.
BaseballSwingAddict 1 year ago
Fella's,
One's proper swing is neither down, up or level, With a pitcher standing on a ten inch mound the ball basically travels towards you on a downward plane, Basically one's bat knob is held app. ear high & parallel to rear shoulder above one's strike zone, to meet the ball squarely one must bring one's knob and hands down directing the barrel down into a level plane with the downward flight of the ball into a slight up swing creating app. 12to18" of bat to ball carry.
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donervin1 1 year ago
most comments areTypical Little League mentality. The Swing MUST match the plane of the pitched ball. Not Downward. Hitting grounders is a youth ball method because the players make many errors. At the NEST Level(High School,College etc) you must drive the ball over the infielders head. No you don't swing down for backspin, No you don't hit the top of the ball. That's all youth ball crap. A good hitter hits from the ground up!
rebelmoon100 1 year ago
@rebelmoon100
you dont have time in real baseball to match the plane of anything..the body creates a stretch between the hands and back hip,the body holds the stretch and the hands turn into the ball..you have a 1/4 second,,you aint matching anything in that time.
wogdoggy 1 year ago
@rebelmoon100 ROTFLMAO!
caspermilktoast77 1 year ago
They don't swing level or up. They swing down at the ball in turn trying to create back spin on the ball that makes it travel. The bat finishes up with extension through the zone. The misconception is that people swing up at a ball but try it after little league with competitive pitching and you will not have much success.
cowboys0309 1 year ago
thats actually called being flat through the zone not upward
eckstein29 1 year ago
1:14 jason giambi
jon13001 2 years ago
Nobody is swinging up at the ball...it is a level swing. By dropping the back shoulder you allow the bat head to travel at the plane on which the pitch is coming in. It also allows the bat head to stay in the hitting zone longer therefore making better contact. 90% of the pros do it. If it was something that would hurt their chances of hitting the ball they wouldnt do it.
tonytouch516 2 years ago
Ladies. Quit looking at it as an upswing. They are simply swing level to the ball. A ball at someones letters will require a level swing. Al ball at the knees will require an upswing. Yes, u do have to start down towards the ball, the difference is where u start coming back up. Linear coaches teach swing down to point of contact. Rotational coaches teach a much earlier upswing. Every batter in this video is rotational, just like the majority of the major leagues
Indoooooo 2 years ago
1:18 ADRIAN :D
Worst Hitting Mechanics=Prince Fielder.....fucking twinkie
santoak47 2 years ago
they're not just swinging up they're hands are going from their load position down to the ball with the barrel following through the strike zone or where ever its pitched. the upward motion is because its a SWING. no one swings down. thats like hitting fungo. a swing motion goes down, level, then up to finish.
Lysergic32 2 years ago
Idiots... ha we have already had that conversation. Read below.... And what yall say about a compact swing.. No extension = no power. It doesnt have to be so much compact...Its just making sure your hands are PUSHED straight to the ball from their starting point. If your hands are moving straight to the ball. Shortest distance between 2 points = straight line.
keithbrown33 2 years ago
thats major leaguers maybe when your that good you can pull off swinging up at the ball
usey26269 2 years ago
Maybe they are that good because they swing up on the ball.
prizzle26 2 years ago
1) these are not all upswings
2) you have to upswing when the ball is high (around the belt level)
4) your bat should be moving up after contact, some of these pictures are taken after contact
Tamerplane 2 years ago
Major leaguers are there because they had a swing that was successful, consistent, and powerful. It's called a swing for a reason -- not a chop. Hands are short to the ball, but the barrel of the bat is on an arc.
A good swing is a good swing. No such thing as a big league swing and a little league swing. Watch hitters in slow motion and you will see the same action with the bat.
team5systems 2 years ago
Turning to the instep of the back foot allows the knee to go to the pitcher. When the kids are taught to squish the bug- they rotate to the outside and end up coming around the ball. I 100% agree with getting inside the ball to create the bat lag to gain the explosion of bat speed to the ball.
impactbat 2 years ago
wspp60, the gay hitting guru, wants me to fly him in for $1,000 plus 175 an hour to show me how to hit LOL!
lighten up Joe Bob!
caspermilktoast77 2 years ago
Bottomline for me is a good swing is compact and explosive. Using a combination of weight shift and rotation. Whatever % is best for each particular hitter determined by the hitter, ultimately.
What happened to wspp60? he got so pissed he sent me a message. when I tried to reply his account was closed.
What a pussy cat with out the cat!!!
caspermilktoast77 2 years ago
Thats correct! thats why they teach get up on the back toe (except when going oppo) so the hips can fully rotate.
If you "over-rotate" after contact its not that big a deal. And, fully rotating on oppo is over rotating, according to pro hitting coaches.
Staying inside the ball is how you get to palm up/down position.
The final piece of the rotation puzzle is a firm front leg.
I agree with most of what y'all say, sometimes I think we agree and just say it different, mostly...
caspermilktoast77 2 years ago
and the correct/incorrect turn has nothing to do with staying inside the ball. I can swing with out moving my legs all day and stay inside the ball.
keithbrown33 2 years ago
Tousche Casper. Thats why you dont here college/professional coaches teach "squash the bug" If complete rotation happens before anything else, that outside pitch disapears from your "hot zone" Impact, sounds like you just watch videos and decide you know it. If you go and actually hit, youll find out that if you end up on the outside of your backfoot, you over rotated.
keithbrown33 2 years ago
I would agree. I'm not sure what you mean by inside of the back foot? On pitches middle in most hitters will be up on their back toe and on oppo they won't pivot as far. If not on the back toe, they haven't rotated all the way.
Palm up/down is one of the things most agreed upon no matter what the opinion on hitting is, in my experience.
JC Video is awesome. Its also the least expensive for the individual user.
I like Dartfish better, but its very expensive.
Have fun!
caspermilktoast77 2 years ago
The turn on the back foot goes to the instep instead to the outside of the foot.. This allows the hip or the knee to go to the pitcher creating a good turn to the ball.
impactbat 2 years ago
I use JC Video and have studied over 500 MLB swings. Two things that stay consistent are the turn to the inside of the back foot and palm up/ palm down at contact! The correct turn allows the hitter to take the inside path to the ball and palm up/dow allows more bat speed. Some coaches teach players to hit with the top hand vertical feeling this adds more support at impact. This does not happen.
impactbat 2 years ago
aamen
keithbrown33 2 years ago
That is correct, they look for quick hands, short, compact swings that a hitter needs to have success with a wood bat.
They don't look for long, rotational type swings advocated by the amateur rotational hitting gurus.
What software do you use Impactbat?
caspermilktoast77 2 years ago
I will post Albert under " King Albert"
impactbat 2 years ago
Kieth- I have asked the main scout for the Angels and he said all he looks for in hitters are quick hands. I just say Jason Bay take an outside pitch off of the wall in Fenway. I have video analyzing software that slow the players swings down to 1/100 of a second. Paired with super slow mo from Th Homerun Derby- you can see exactly what they do.Most of the great players land with the front foot opened to clear the hips to allow the bat to go onto plane. Front shoulder stays closed to get torque
impactbat 2 years ago
if you ever get the chance, ask a scout, or a proffessional hitter. Hitters dont change their swing . (minus cal ripken) It wont impress anyone that you hit a ball 400 ft. A blind squirrel will find his nut.. Its about consistency. Now get back on the tee, change your swing everytime you hit, and see how well you keep the same bat speed, quality contact etc. Or just watch a game on tv. Even college baseball players know how to be consistent for the most part.
keithbrown33 2 years ago
Nah mechanics is just another way for saying basics. Like getting your foot down early, staying inside the ball, making contact out infront of your body etc. Styles are different ways to do it.... Watch guys like frank thomas, garrett anderson, juan gonzales etc. = momentum style hitting. They basically transfer their weight really hard to their front side while they are in mid swing. You can see in some pics their back foot is off the ground.
keithbrown33 2 years ago
What are the others besides "explosion", "plane" & "momentum" hitting? educate us
caspermilktoast77 2 years ago
Impactbat- I use stop action and frame to frame, its better than slo-mo. Maybe they don't allow that in your kindergarten class?
caspermilktoast77 2 years ago
Keith, obviously you don't know the difference between a style and actual hitting mechanics!
Just curious, what determines when these pro hitters use a particular style? Is it pitch to pitch, at bat to at bat or just when they feel like changing???
Whats explosion hitting? does the ball explode?
I agree with you about the hips. The kindergartner wants them to fly open. Good luck with oppo!
Futur1HOF- say hi to Albert.
caspermilktoast77 2 years ago
Watch your "hitters" closer. What you describe (hips rotate 1st) can only be a dead pull hitter. Dont believe it and you want to test that theory, get on a tee. Get in a position where you have already loaded and rotated.. Now stay in that position and hit outside pitches off the tee and let us know how well you get to that ball... good luck with that.
keithbrown33 2 years ago
little more to hitting mechanics than just " swing your hips out 1st, and tuck your back elbow." as he says. Sounds like somebody watched a video clip of one swing and decided Thats it! What about hitting against your front side? staying closed? leading with the knob of the bat to the ball? keeping hands infront of the ball? wrist whip? leverage? contact out infront? inside half of the ball? extension? balance points? finishing above the ball?
keithbrown33 2 years ago
Ha, yeah.. Go take a few swings, with your hips going out 1st.. then try to hit an outside pitch and let us know how it works out for ya.. Keep telling hitters to rotate hips 1st, and that rotating means tucking your back elbow.. your on your way to some success...Let me guess...you think power comes from your legs?? and the ball goes 500 ft when you swing up?? and you hit harder if you hit off your front foot?
keithbrown33 2 years ago
As for you Keith Brown
You need to go back to school and study hitting if you dont think the hips lead the way. The front foot opens up to allow the hips to clear while the back elbow tucks to get on plane with the ball. It is consistent with most MLB hitters that hit for power. You must be coaching LL to beat out grounders. Make your kids happy and let them hit the ball to the outfield?
impactbat 2 years ago
Hey casper- Pay attention - they tuck the back elbow to rotate to the ball. You need to look at people in super slo-mo! Sorry I thought I stated this real simple. You must be in High school!
impactbat 2 years ago
Pujos thinks he is going down. When he makes his turn the bat levels off.
impactbat 2 years ago
Me and Albert Pujols were talking the other day and he says that he comes down but goes up to meet the ball
Futur1HOF 2 years ago
"Proffessional hitters" don't conform to 1 style. There is explosion hitting, momentum hitting, plane hitting and others.. staying behind the ball just means your hitting the ball out infront of your body, not even with the center of, or behind your body. all you have to do to stay inside of the ball is lead your swing with the knob of the bat.
keithbrown33 2 years ago
Idiots... Most people who are 1 dimensional about a baseball swing are either little league coaches, or guys that heard one thing and assume its the only possible way to get it done.."Proffessional hitters" don't conform to one style. There is (explosion hitting, momentum hitting, plane hitting, etc.)
keithbrown33 2 years ago
You just turned "hit the ball square" into something complicated.
If your hands start around shoulder height, how can you go up from there?
Everyone hits rotationally and if you don't have any weight shift, you are not maximizing your swing EVERY video of every pro hitter on every "rotational" website shifts their weight from back to center.
Good luck to you who are following advice from the rock skipping Donny, the old physics professor or the one armed, long winded guru from Sugarland! lol
caspermilktoast77 2 years ago
It is real simple here- MLB hitters tuck the back elbow to put the bat on plane to hit the ball square. I spoke to Rick Anliel a few months back and he said" I just try and hit the ball square and I know good things will happen." The hands have to be in the palm up/ palm down position at contact for this to happen. Have you ever heard " Get inside the ball or behind the ball" you cant do this by swinging down! The best hitters in the game hit Rotational to accomplish this!
impactbat 2 years ago
All wrong.. There is no right/wrong when it comes to tucking your back elbow or keeping it up. Simple anatomy or biology of the human body will tell you a loose muscle is a fast muscle. It doesnt matter if the elbow is up, down or straight with the hands behind the shoulder.. As long as the body/hands are loose and relaxed the hitter will see maximum batspeed/wrist action through the ball
keithbrown33 2 years ago
Also wrong about swinging level and or swinging up. Lift is created by backspin. Backspin comes from the bat head coming down to the ball.. If Swinging up was proper you would see hitters keeping their hands down by their hips so they can swing up.. You dont... every hitter brings their hands from above the strike zone, which for those who dont know starts at the chest and ends at the knees...All these clips you show, if you watch closely, the bat head is above the ball right before contact..
keithbrown33 2 years ago
Also wrong about "using your hips to get your hands moving" Watch a major league baseball game once in a while.. pay attention.. Every hitter has their hands out in front of their body when they make contact.. If your hips start your swing, the hands lag behind. You can start your swing with your hips and swing up all you want, but no scout or coach will be impressed about what youre doing..
keithbrown33 2 years ago
I agree 100% w/ bjo44, he's right, NOT IGNORANT
LearnToTurn7 3 years ago
a slight up-swing is what the greatest hitter of all-time advocated... the splendid splinter
blake5271 3 years ago
by through the ball I'm not referring to the angle. ie. I don't mean down through the ball. a slight upward angle is fine bcuz the pitcher is on a mound higher than the plate. through the ball means palm up/palm down with extension out front.
caspermilktoast77 3 years ago
Caspermilktoast77, I've read some of your post. Your the ignorant one. You bash people on here and you have no idea of their background or experiance. Learn what it takes to be a great hitter and hitting coach, then and only then will you be able to distinguish the amature coaches from the pros. and by pro I don't nessecerly mean MLB coaches... There are quacks in those ranks as well. I know, I have family and friends both players and coaches in the Yankees, Angels, Rays, Rockies and Braves org.
wspp60 3 years ago
Look up the word "bash" dummy!
Boy are you connected! WOW!
Teach us then, train us in the ways of your family and friends. Obviously you're a trained professional, throw us a bone.
How do you hit a baseball wspp60 hitting guru...
caspermilktoast77 3 years ago
Read the messege I sent you, ASS HOLE!
wspp60 3 years ago
the pros use rotational hitting keeping their back elbow close to their side, dropping their bat head below their hands... their head tilts in relation to where the pitch is thrown
blake5271 3 years ago
Blake5271, Most pros don't start with elbows at or near their sides. Their elbows move to and through the area near the side and waist and on out through extension. Some call this addition (like Mike Candrea, Team USA and Sue Enquist, former head coach, UCLA womens softball). I believe you need to hit the ball square (on plane with the pitch) at or just below the center of the ball for the back spin needed to create lift.
wspp60 3 years ago
No, back spin comes from your backside, a lezel swing is the best way to hit a baseball, perhaps a little uppercut at most ie: Pujols, Reyes etc. The most important part of hitting is how hard you turn your backside! That turns your hips, that gets ur hands going, and then a nice level, line drive swing will put enough backspin on the ball to send it into the cheap seats.
favre4ever1995 3 years ago
how can a level swing produce an off-the-bat angle steep enough to drive the ball that high
LearnToTurn7 2 years ago
correct! you swing down TO the plane that the ball is on. 'through the ball', then up and out for a nice follow through. there are different ways to say the same thing.
just dont get duped by the internet-guru types who say they are experts and dont really know their asss from a hole in the ground. when you use the term "rotational hitting", people know your so-called knowledge came from an internet nobody like Englishby or Mankin or Nyman!!!
2 most over used words: elite & rotational
be kool
caspermilktoast77 3 years ago
the path is an arc around the body. First of course the arc goes down(to get on the plane of the pitch), but by the time you make contact it goes up again(like the plane of the pitch).
So you don't swing down on the ball.
dominikkeul 3 years ago
correct! and everyone hits rotationally, hence saying "rotational" hitting is redundant and maybe even moronic. some don't do it correctly, but all hitters try to use their hips. its common knowledge that power comes from the hips. what isn't common knowledge is how to do it correctly! squishing the bug isn't the way nor is throwing your hips! if you have the proper heel toe action with your feet, your hips will work correctly! and the power actually comes from your core.
caspermilktoast77 3 years ago
some hitters are deliberately taught to keep their hips closed, and hit that way, but u r right in saying that power comes from the core
LearnToTurn7 2 years ago
Of course there is a time the hands go down in roational hitting. You have a circular hand path: first it arcs down, than up again. The swing is like a golf swing.
Hitting down would mean that the hands go down all th time, which is not the case. The hands go first down, then up again.
dominikkeul 3 years ago
LOL! very ignorant!
caspermilktoast77 3 years ago
wut? whos ignorant!
ozunasox 3 years ago
bj44 is ignorant!
caspermilktoast77 3 years ago
i agree with bj44
blake5271 3 years ago
no, you don't swing down...the first movement is your back elbow driving toward your back hip area which drops your bat head down below your hands on the plane of the pitch...watch big league players in slow motion...the productive hitters do this
bjo44 3 years ago
It looks like a downward motion but it isn't. The hitters are leveling the bat to the path of the ball. The only time it may be downward is on a low inside ball where you have to "golf" it.
zertbor 3 years ago
yes they do swing down on the ball.there first movement of the bat is downward so they can get level with the ball then pull up yes. dont go giving kids wrong information they need to first swing down to succeed.
Drizzle315 3 years ago
Moving the bat head down when slotting the back elbow is different than swinging down toward an oncoming pitch. Try chopping down on a fast ball and all you will get is grounder if you make contact at all. If viewed from the side you will see the hitter's hands going around his body not down and up.
zertbor 3 years ago
great shots-thanks
zim1950 4 years ago