Got it....罰がなければ、逃げるたのしみもない A lot of translators seem to have it as the threat of punishment..but it read punishment only, as in the threat is implied and makes more sense of the quote. Sounds Nietzche-ian....
Got it....罰がなければ、逃げるたのしみもない A lot of translators seem to have it as the threat of punishment..but it read punishment only, as in the threat is implied and makes more sense of the quote. Sounds Nietzche-ian....
Got it....罰がなければ、逃げるたのしみもない A lot of translators seem to have it as the threat of punishment..but it read punishment only, as in the threat is implied and makes more sense of the quote. Sounds Nietzche-ian....
@VariedInterest: I seem to recall from reading the original that the quote is more like ' ' Without prisons there would be no joy of escape' its probably a quote..I took the pit to be paradoxically the trap of social behavoiur itself or the trap of woman. After all he is hunting insects himself while he is lured into a trap, his pastime being a temporary escape from society.
This is for me one of the best films, until they make cien anos de soledad into film.People always try to involve reason into sureallist art and don't just enjoy it.'If they're afraid of the sand, tackle it scientifically".And he stays.
I love this film - the sand never stops coming. A truly great film - but I never got the love story stuff, to me it's a horror story - a big time horror story.
She is the poor, alienated, hungry for love soul of the modern man. The horror comes from the state in which not he has her, but she has got him and entrapped him. Great great novel and great movie, really a masterpiece.
NatureIsNotHuman - your comment, "She is the poor, alienated, hungry for love soul of the modern man.", I can see that now. A materpiece, for sure. Thanks - Jack
kardios - I understood it as she couldnt leave, but she accepted that, and she didnt have a problem with it. And she knew that in order to have a rewarding life (even in a meaningless world) one needed to share it with somebody else. And in the end the man also comes to the same realization, and stops trying to escape, and they live happily ever after, even though their existence is really meaningless, because the sand never stops coming. - Jack
Well the novel begins with a short phrase, "Without threat of punishment, there's no joy in flight". This concept still carries over completely. It suggest how we can reconcile pretty much anything so long as we have the sense that we can be the direct author of our fate. As long as that is met we seem to have limitless capacity for enduring exploitation or abuse. But we can be fooled into thinking either one. But we have a basic need of interrelation.
Variedinterest - thanks for your developed insights - it's a gift to write well about film, especially at your age, and I encourage you to try your hand writing about new film creations here on YouTube (it's the most exciting place to play, imo). - Jack
It has nothing to do with "modern" or traditional gender roles. Youre reading a very shallow and misguided western misogyny angle into it. The book goes into more detail about the sexual relationship and how standard ideas about gender are actually quite foolish, but you need to be able to read first to appreciate this.
I think one of the things that is great about this film is that it can be interpreted in many different ways. The way I see this scene is that these two human beings are reduced to a basic and purely human state. When you strip away all the trifle attachments that come along with modernity, the way we identify ourselves by our profession, our class, our clothes, our ideology, ect, all you haver are two human beings who succumb to the most natural of biological instincts.
amazing!
susiaway 5 months ago
WOW.. this was filmed in outer space
ghadastique 6 months ago
wow.. the music comes in so swiftly
frozinfire 10 months ago
A classic that reaches to some basic existentialist realities of our lives, both disturbing and compelling for those reasons.
Urbino237 1 year ago
@ Vh1Rican ~ W/E. Can you come up with a more original screen name? lolz.
EJade40 1 year ago
however, doing it on sand is never a good idea
czaja86 1 year ago
Teshigahara's criterion collection is well worth it.
StatuesBleedingGreen 1 year ago
gorgeous! toru takemitsu music
gengoro1 1 year ago 2
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EJade40 1 year ago
@EJade40 no one cares
Vh1Rican 1 year ago
Master piece!
ultimaesperanza04 1 year ago 3
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so not prison..punishment...
barnabycross 1 year ago
so not prison..punishment...
barnabycross 1 year ago
so not prison..punishment...
barnabycross 1 year ago
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Got it....罰がなければ、逃げるたのしみもない A lot of translators seem to have it as the threat of punishment..but it read punishment only, as in the threat is implied and makes more sense of the quote. Sounds Nietzche-ian....
barnabycross 1 year ago
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Got it....罰がなければ、逃げるたのしみもない A lot of translators seem to have it as the threat of punishment..but it read punishment only, as in the threat is implied and makes more sense of the quote. Sounds Nietzche-ian....
barnabycross 1 year ago
Got it....罰がなければ、逃げるたのしみもない A lot of translators seem to have it as the threat of punishment..but it read punishment only, as in the threat is implied and makes more sense of the quote. Sounds Nietzche-ian....
barnabycross 1 year ago
@VariedInterest: I seem to recall from reading the original that the quote is more like ' ' Without prisons there would be no joy of escape' its probably a quote..I took the pit to be paradoxically the trap of social behavoiur itself or the trap of woman. After all he is hunting insects himself while he is lured into a trap, his pastime being a temporary escape from society.
barnabycross 1 year ago
The image of woman as a symbol for the swallowing dunes, the breasts and the thighs that trap...a work of art
Hcosl 2 years ago
Funnily enough, the exact same music plays whenever I have sex.
ThatLovelyEnglishBob 2 years ago 24
@ThatLovelyEnglishBob its not so often , he? hahaha
nocnamalpa 2 months ago
This is for me one of the best films, until they make cien anos de soledad into film.People always try to involve reason into sureallist art and don't just enjoy it.'If they're afraid of the sand, tackle it scientifically".And he stays.
Olengher 2 years ago
Mmmmmmmmm...........
FlamencoChe 2 years ago
Pure cinema
cunoamit 2 years ago 10
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i cant stand this movie!!!!!!
yakuzafromhiroshima 3 years ago
one of the best and a great film too.
friendsofthefruitsof 3 years ago 2
I'm reading this novel right now. It's great. I don't wanna get spoiled with the movie yet so I'm just taking a glimpse at this. Just fascinating.
thedewangel 3 years ago 2
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poor music
plxfldj 3 years ago
wrong. great music. reminds me of legeti's stuff. The music is not just about them...
sclogse1 2 years ago
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i hate this video
ice2alvi 3 years ago
I love this film - the sand never stops coming. A truly great film - but I never got the love story stuff, to me it's a horror story - a big time horror story.
JackNightingale 3 years ago
She is the poor, alienated, hungry for love soul of the modern man. The horror comes from the state in which not he has her, but she has got him and entrapped him. Great great novel and great movie, really a masterpiece.
NatureIsNotHuman 3 years ago
NatureIsNotHuman - your comment, "She is the poor, alienated, hungry for love soul of the modern man.", I can see that now. A materpiece, for sure. Thanks - Jack
JackNightingale 3 years ago
she doesn't want a modern man. otherwise she would had left the place long ago... sure she's alienated and its more about sex and lack of love...
kardios 3 years ago
kardios - I understood it as she couldnt leave, but she accepted that, and she didnt have a problem with it. And she knew that in order to have a rewarding life (even in a meaningless world) one needed to share it with somebody else. And in the end the man also comes to the same realization, and stops trying to escape, and they live happily ever after, even though their existence is really meaningless, because the sand never stops coming. - Jack
JackNightingale 3 years ago
Well the novel begins with a short phrase, "Without threat of punishment, there's no joy in flight". This concept still carries over completely. It suggest how we can reconcile pretty much anything so long as we have the sense that we can be the direct author of our fate. As long as that is met we seem to have limitless capacity for enduring exploitation or abuse. But we can be fooled into thinking either one. But we have a basic need of interrelation.
VariedInterest 2 years ago
Variedinterest - thanks for your developed insights - it's a gift to write well about film, especially at your age, and I encourage you to try your hand writing about new film creations here on YouTube (it's the most exciting place to play, imo). - Jack
JackNightingale 2 years ago
once you fall into it there is no way of coming out.
kardios 2 years ago
It has nothing to do with "modern" or traditional gender roles. Youre reading a very shallow and misguided western misogyny angle into it. The book goes into more detail about the sexual relationship and how standard ideas about gender are actually quite foolish, but you need to be able to read first to appreciate this.
VariedInterest 2 years ago 2
I think one of the things that is great about this film is that it can be interpreted in many different ways. The way I see this scene is that these two human beings are reduced to a basic and purely human state. When you strip away all the trifle attachments that come along with modernity, the way we identify ourselves by our profession, our class, our clothes, our ideology, ect, all you haver are two human beings who succumb to the most natural of biological instincts.
kaguth 2 years ago 2