Magma Discorama, French TV, June 29th 1970

[RantovRizzia]

UTS STITS REITS STITS KLOWITS

[RantovRizzia]

STOAH

[insektuo]

IF VANDER WHERE PRESIDENT OF FRANCE IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE COOLEST COUNTRY OF THE WORLD..GENIUS

[TheMrmbrx33]

is he imitating adolf h.?

[mrapala]

@TheMrmbrx33 Adolf was imitating him

[thefeepy]

ZEUHL !!

[jnpierre1]

Si les vieux pourtant tellement classic

[EpicAryanAnderson]

kiddies, this is your brain on drugs

[JimboCelt]

40 years later and he and Magma are still doing it, It's time Vander was recognised as the genius he is.

[MediaWatchDawg]

For those who might want a little communism served up with their foreign crooning, checkout "Vintage Soviet Pop," "Raging Margarita," and "Eduard Khil."

[jutra0]

I listen to this when I am in a REALLY BAD mood. After that I listen to the whole song, my mood is WAY better XD.

[paragoge]

La haine d'Hilter, comme l'a magistralement montré Gérard Mendel dans "la révolte contre le père" est en fait selon lui une haine contre le père (la rationalité) en association avec la "mère mauvaise" (concept psy.). Le lien très étroit entre Vander et Hitler tient à cette association intra-psychique avec la mère mauvaise et son désir de caster ses auditeurs. La violence, les griffes dans le ventre qui agressent et mutilent, sont ceux de cette mère mauvaise psychique

[eugenecraddock]

@MrTouchnik oui chef avec plaisir. Je te laisse te branler avec magma.

[JLOUP57live]

FANTASTIQUE JE NE LACHE PAS NI M"EN LASSE TANKYOU

[Galenskapt]

"Stoah" from their debut album.

[arzachel79]

Lol

[cpdaddy7]

Solidarity, Brothers!

[MaximeeK]

N'importe quoi!

[purbecker]

just fantastic,a true work of art in the Fank Zappa type of creation

[Existentialexplosion]

@purbecker

C'mon what Zappa has to do with Magma? Magma is in a totally different galaxy, some thousands years of light far from earth and Zappa.

[miksajlo007]

@Existentialexplosion sory but yoy probably dont now frank zappa music .this is realy similar to some of zappa,s music .not thet i put bad coment or something

[ZORIE33]

MAGNIFIQUE ! que de souvenirs magiques, grands, MAGMA MERCI MERCI MERCI pour tout ce que tu nous as offert

[Stormbla]

gr8 performanse

[menderbanah]

el bateriste gesticula como neburrr!!

[kumiko117]

Just the words 'Magma' and 'Discorama' in the same title is worthy of 5 stars. Add that this one of their most bourgeois-shocking avante pieces, and that combination is even better. I'd go to discos if they played Magma there...

[jipeheu]

Proust avait dit de la musique "exemple unique de ce qu'aurait qu'aurait pu etre la communication des ames " Vander et Magma on été (sont) un des rares groupes a le prouver.....

Quand à EUgene the crade a-t-il seulement une ame ?

[zebehn1]

Magma, le meilleur groupe du monde, qui vient de fêter ses 40 ans, avec un Christian Vander qui pète le feu sur scène.

Ne faites pas attention à eugène le crasseux, il fait une fixation ..lol..

[MrPalimpseste]

Pourquoi Magma attise encore ce genre de propos?

Magma n'est pas un groupe de musique au sens commun du terme mais une entité créatrice surpuissante emmenée par un visionnaire en la personne de Vander.

Leurs outils?

Musique,provocation,mythologie­s,sf etc .....

De la création à l'état brute qui me fait à chaque fois l'effet d'un kandinsky ,d'une invention de bach,d'une poésie sonore d'Erik Satie.

On parlera encore longtemps de ces français épris de liberté.

[styace]

HITLER

[VertreterTaeubchen]

Uhhmmm, you really think that Hitler was as creative and touching as Magma are?

I see 2 possibilities:

- You don't know who Hitler was

- You don't know who Magma are

In either case you have to go on reading (and possibly listening). I truly encourage you to get rid of your lack of knowledge!

[styace]

uuuh... i know who hitler was. and christian vander reminds me of hitler here during his rally speeches to the crowd. maybe you have no sense of humour.... i know magma. i have a few of their cds .

[mulotwo]

C'est sûr, c'est particulier !!! lol !!

Mais quel génie Christian Vander !!

incomparable !

[ResidentMich]

Stephen Fry, Stephen Fry!!!!!

[baloubalou06]

Du génie !

[LDPKristo27]

Tout Simplement Non.....

[eugenecraddock]

en plus c'est du playback

[ZaNkAzAhh]

Tu as un problème avec Vander toi non? ;-)

[eugenecraddock]

non juste avec les cons

[stickos1000]

magma na jammais et ne joura jammais en playback mais surment na tu pas l oreille musicale assez developees pour ecouter cette music tu devrais ecouter du celine dion je suis sur que ca devrait te plair

[eugenecraddock]

Ah bon je devrais écouter du céline dion ? j'ai passé l'age. N'importe quel crétin doué d'un oeil normal s'apercevra qu'il n'y a aucun micros devant les musiciens alors comment on chope le son ? hein ? mois qui suis vieux j'ai vu plein de discorama à la TV et c'était les 3/4 du temps en playback. Faut se renseigner jeunot avant de raconter des conneries.

[BALKISDREAMER]

@eugenecraddock Salut gentils youtubistes! Avec un peu d'attention on peut voir que les guitares sont branchées, quant aux micros, ils sont bien cachés! Hé, hé! C'est vrai que le début ressemble à un discours d'Adolf mais le contenu doit être légèrement différent, me semble-t-il...

[Poulet39]

@stickos1000 pourtant c'est bien un playback ^^

[eugenecraddock]

il s'est coincé les burnes dans son jean ?

[FelixLeeArtist]

Does anyone know if he's using a classical technique with his falsetto screaming or do you just lose your voice doing that?

[flyingpookie]

You kill your voice screaming this way and you can make the ears of any basic pop hits listener bleed too ;)

[clarius1973]

One of the weirdest music pieces I ever heard... very interesting...

c.

[BassLudeman]

that ending is amazing, too  bad its cut off....

[poyaviaCk]

Magma kicks ass !

[clustercon]

F'in WOW !!!! Incredible , they were no more than a year around !but here witness one of the 5 Best , most astounding bands ever !been into since 75' when they were on cover of EUROCK ( thank you Archie ! )- Yes , an acquired taste for sure like say Can Tago Mago or Art Bears But for certain .. been so tired of the word Prog; who fits in what pigionhole I was done w/ Yes or ELP by 1978 & so were they but Magma still kicks ass in THIS Century ! Vander & Co. stand upon a Mountain few dare go !

[partyneutral]

Hey, Magma is lip-synching! How weird is that?!

[FrozenStormrider]

It's kind'of a video clip.

[prolapso]

Christian Vander es el SER, Los instrumentistas son La Naturaleza, y Klaus Blasquiz es La Voz de La Humanidad.

[louison79]

this is the weirdest playback performance of the history of Television

[dahnraelz]

Haha well I understand that. I would've been like "WTF IS THIS?" if I didn't know Magma well.

[louison79]

In response to the person you gave me a thumb down for my previous comment:

I wasn't saying it's bad. "Weird" is not an insult in my vocabulary. And this performance is really a playback, which is unbelievable for such "weird" music.

By the way Magma is one of my favorite band. OK?

[dgbril]

christian vader is god

[styace]

i like him but for ME this song is slightly too ANDREW LlOYD Webberish for me.. should have stayed more on theRAW rock side instead of operatic, broadwayESQUE

[stereom]

Andrew Lloyd Webber? This is a bit odd assessment actually. I think the composition has more Stravinsky esque qualities actually. The closest reference point from the popular music could be the late sixties Mothers of Invention that also combined rock and avant-classicism as well as rock rhythm section with horns.

[styace]

:P dont sound like stravinsky to me ... maybe a little like frank zappas band... and does sound a lot like compostions by tim rice and andrew lloyd webber but youre entitled to your personal AUDIAL INTERPRETION FREQUENCIES

[stereom]

I could swear that Vander has cited Stravinsky as an important influence, along Coltrane etc. If you refer to the fact that this composition sounds kind of mellow, then you might have a point, as this version is a bit restrained. For a more aggressive version check out Mythes and Legendes Epok 1 DVD (2005). Vander's screeching is replaced with guitar noises, there's an heavy Brötzmann like freejazz section and the composed parts have the rhythm section more upfront and harder hitting.

[styace]

i dont want to buy anymore MAGMA stuff. I own UBER KOMMANDOH a double dvd which contains a variety of their stuff --enuff for me... but thanks for the recommendation. I guess u can hear the 'stravinsky' but never entered my thoughts til u pointed it out.

magma is W E I R D .amen

[FrozenStormrider]

Yess!! I love that version of Stoah, it's amazing.

[kaurismatico]

Muchas gracias, vaya joya de video. Grande Vander.

[tie32101]

sounds like shit

[Semente200]

That´s Magma, you ignorant. Madonna is the real stuff, isn´t it?..

[tie32101]

But really cool

[tie32101]

sorry wrong vid I realy love this song. I wasn`t paying atention

[fatherfocus]

la primera vez que vi esto dije mejor escucho queen jajajaja pero ahora soy adicto a su musica este no es su mejor tema esta claro pero el tema hhai es lo maximo

[archeomoon]

un exemple de la créativité des musiciens français que malheureusement nous oublions souvent,comme part exemple Art Zoyd! la liste n'est pas exhaustive et tous styles confondus...

[TheRocinanteKid]

Oui oui!

[kingcat61]

helas ,la tv francaise n est plus capable de passer des emissions comme ca

bref,la tele francaise est actuellement totalement formatee

cordialement

[theqotn]

@archeomoon : Art Zoyd c'est Belges me semble t il !?

[Leipaa]

Haha look at Vander at 2:30-2:40. He's not even trying to roll and has this huge stupid smile, probably making fun of this whole pretend process.

[JimboCelt]

He does take this very seriously - he's been doing it for 40 years. He does pull unusual faces when he plays, part of the intensity he puts into it. If you get the chance to see Magma live, you'll have no doubt about how serious he is about his music.

[FrozenStormrider]

Of course he is serious about his music.

But honestly, Vander is a man with a lot of humour, Leipaa is right, he probably is making fun of the whole pretend process.

[Leipaa]

Yeah, Magma is miming here. Vander does an incredibly bad job at it. Such a cheesy, static performance - it ain't Vander if he's not allowed to hit the drums! Would've been so much easier for them to actually play the material, like they did on Pop Deux, but bands often mimed in those days on TV.

[stereom]

Yeah, thank goodness they played on Pop Deux a few months later. The version of "Stoah" played there sounded really DANGEROUS and those musicians fired on all cylinders on this composition and other material they played.

[ZeBokinha]

"vou matar sirí"...

[valentynesuite]

great stuff! great hollywood president drum set!!!

[dudeee42]

Whats the name of this song?

[jalopetos]

Stoah , on Magma 's first album

[lolfgang]

Absolutes Highlight - Magma-Enthusiast jubelt...

[pininfrna]

This is just about as deep as you can go into the archives of rock music. I love YouTube.

[acdc126]

archives of everything, and wikipedia is the good compagnon for this site :P

[cnamisnak]

is there a carni somewhere?

[ResidentMich]

When did these guys start as The Rz may have to pay their dues...........although.NAH!!!­!!!! WE WONT!!!!

[NiuTenq]

I always loved the Beach Boys, but where is Brian Wilson, I don't recognise him ?

[sonicdeath10]

Yeah, and this is definitely the weirdest version of Surfin Safari I've ever heard.

[sonoplexus]

Play it backwards and it will all become clear..

[aprusso]

This is quite PROGRESSSSSSSSSSSSSIVE rock

[berthy75]

aaaargh i always want to see this legendary performance(first time on french tv) but i discover it's play back!! i'm disappointed but thanx anyway!

[sabrinaeden]

Magma miming???

[oscarwildeone]

This is the offical song of the Online-Sweepstakes Forum.

[zissuntetnah]

the performance seems to go on...do you have the missing part? btw thank you for adding this!

[kontarkosz]

esta wea si que es antigua.......la cagó magma........espectacular¡¡¡¡¡­¡¡¡¡¡¡Klaus Blazkit tiene una de las mejores voces que he oído.......

[kobaien1]

NICE NICE ,VERY NICE !

THX