@bryceh12321 Do people even try to question those who say capitalism is the end of history, that the world is an infinite rescource and an infinite garbage can? Do people ever question those who deny evidence showing worse pollution, waste, and disrespect to the environment...Or perhaps overwhelming scientific consensus that global climatic rise in temperature is in fact occuring, and is related to CO2 released from human industry?
Or do these questions never trouble your brainwashed mind?
Do not fall for this fraudulent religion known as cimate change/global warming. The AGW religion is really about socialist wealth redistribution that the two high priests Al Gore and David Suzuki are trying to implement through carbon taxes. Thank God for the CRU email hack which unveiled the truth to the world. Don't let your politicians sign any treaties. You must resist.
climate change is a fucking fraud just like most of the shit they try and scare us with, its all ball shit just to help bring in the one world government, that has is and will always be there plan untill it is complete, climate change is real in the sense that the climate is always changing but it has been changing throughout history so why are they so worried about it know, it seems to be getting colder over the last few years anyway so i think it is more global cooling than global warming
@pinball281 this video is titled climate CHANGE. there's vast fluctuations and strange patterns in the weather. climate change and global warming are two different theories often placed in the same context. I'm not saying you have an invalid belief, but mixing the two theories is illogical.
For most of earths history there were no ice caps, it was much warmer than it is today. Indeed earth is still recovering from an ice age and we should expect warming from this. Non-AGW proponents and weather forecasters predict cooling to occur over the next 100 years.
If you don't know the answer to that one then you have been living under a rock for most of your life. AGW is a falsehood, read: Global climate science, uncertainty & politics.
see all thoes big buildings in the video clip...and all thoes big heated and lighted conference rooms and all thoes big assed chimneys....i dont own one of them...not one.....so how many lights have i gotta turn off in my house to save the world...?...fuck off
See all these people killing each other around the world? I should I not kill also? See all these people stilling why not me also to get rich?... that the problem with people they think like sheep, and consider them self as insignificant to make a difference as a sheep is among others.
If people pressure their governments they can also turn off some of the big companies lights, but if they simply say others do the same then there is nothing to do.
dude...if ur washing machine is leaking, dont matter how many times u mop the floor...its still gonna leak...
its all cause and effect dude...they are the cause and they tell us to clean up the effects...thats hypocrisy at its finest....the sheep are ones who think thay they themselfs are to blame, that way they are easily led...
you my friend are so conditioned that now you seek to self police others...im a human being, i know right from wrong and i see this as wrong..i dont need u or them tellin me shit...thats what makes me human..
climate change is natural not man made...this is just an evolved version of the angry sun god that they used to tell the small minded ignorant tribs people that didnt know anything else..the sun didnt disapear because the god was angry, it was an eclipse..the world isnt warming up cuz my T.V is left on standby over night...its natural...what the hell do u think happend to the ice age...
CLIMATE CHANGE WILL HAPPEN AND YOU CANNOT STOP IT!!!
climate change happens naturally all the time, were just speeding it up which i consider to be a good thing so its out of the way!!!
do you really think you csan stop it, the world is heading for an ecological disarster like it has a million times befire, and the sad goverment is triking you all into beleving were the only sorce of it and that we can stop it well im here to tell you WE CANT!!!
People stop being stupid! Global warming is as real as Santa Claus, there is no such thing. This is just a scam for more government regulations. Google: Hegelian Principle, and be prepared to learn something you will not find in any university. No need to thank me, and sorry for calling you guys stupid but I needed your attention.
I am a PhD sceintist, who studied GW as his PhD. It is going to kill you! I am trying to save your life! Beat me up about this! I do not spam, I try to tell the world my ideas.
NASA showed that boilnig water gives off gamma rayas: They missed out they had found molecular nuclear fusion - power from water with no cO2 or toxic death.
No. 'Climate Change' is PR frfom nuclear power. Whic hsi why thw world has been cooling aince 2005, whic hwas why nuclear power gave up on 'global warming' - more of their PR.
'man made climate change' is fiction from nuclear power. But now we can do nuclear fusion from water. Safe, cheap[ and c;lean - qwith no CO2 or toxic death.
@Raksaht I live in Canada, it aint warming, if the caps are melting, why isnt the northwest passage open without a fucking great icebreaker? only in the summer months if you are lucky, winter forget it even with a breaker.
So one year on and still we have icecaps, funny huh! next year and the one after that will show even MORE fuckin ice, when will you all just STFU and whine about smokers instead
I think that it is about time that the cities in the u.s.a. started to help in the fight against global warming. george bush can go f*** himself. i dont care if he is the president of the whole damn world. who is he to decide or try to convince other mojor polluting counties to not join the kyoto accord. if something is not done soon about the ammount of pollutants entering the atmosphere it will be our children and childrens children that will have to deal with the problems we leave behind
wake up! when will you admit this is a hoax! when the flood never comes, when the temp cools? Hitler said the bigger the lie the easier the sell BTW the WWF was founded by a NAZI
I am a (Dramatic Pause) Man-Made Global Warming Denier. I need electro-shock therapy. Juice me up! Come on! The more electricity required for my therapy the more warming I can cause! Whats the matter? Don't have the grapes? Sissies!
No. But weatehr is just something we ahve had to cope with! Now we can do molecular nuclear fusion, and sort the cliamte out, with no CO2 or toxic death.
I like how more and more It's "climate change" instead of " global warming"...why??..it stopped warming..oops....see if they use clamate change they can blame anything on humans..too hot..too cold..more hurricanes..less hurricane....LOL It's all climate change...no why?? because THATS WHAT CLIMATE DOES......These global warming alarmists are startting to scare me........
High pressure water or steam? Nuclear fusion only happens in very hot places such as the sun. To gain power from the fusion proces, we even need to have temperatures 10 times as hot as the sun.
Global warming is a lie designed to raise taxes so that the polititians and their so called scientists- lackeys in the pay of the ipcc, a political organisation by the way - can live plush lifestyles. Climate change is the new fascism. Fear and oppression!
Scientists who where honest about climate change where surpressed by the Bush administration. Reports saying that it is sure that climate change will lead to big disasters where changed by not scientists into: "there is a small change that climate change will lead to a disaster." Financial support was stopped for much projects because they had another theory about GW then the bush administration had. And so on. Exxon paid people to lie about GW. That are true facts...
Yes folks, before global warming, there WERE NO HURRICANES. Everytime there is a hurricane now, it's GLOBAL WARMING!
I'd like to point out that there is ZERO OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE IN FAVOR OF GLOBAL WARMING. The only evidence supporting it now is flawed computer models, flawed because they assume we have a perfect knowledge of the environment. We don't
Matidaz...Point me to where it says that it's been warming since 1998....by the way..did you know that the ..so called global temperature dropped dramaticly last year??
The War on Terror still seems to get a bit more coverage than Climate Change. Terrorism is a real problem but in the Noughties, extreme weather has killed many more people than terrorism, so really it is a more pressing issue. Perhaps terror is more shocking as its human intentions are much more direct.
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill." -- Club of Rome members Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider in their book 'The First Global Revolution".
We should just do molecular nuclear fusion, like the deep sea does! Global WArming is just fre PR for teh nuclear industry, and so not true! Stooge fro death!
The IPCC threw the towel in on global warming, and renamed themselves 'the Intergovernmental panel on climate change'. THere si no proof the wordl si warming, only that we are having weather.
Thanks for that AngeAzrael. While the sun is clearly the source of the initial radiation captured in the earth's atmosphere through its GHGs, I thought most peer-reviewed scientific research on changes in solar radiation/intensity over the 20th C suggested this did not provide great explanatory power for most of the change in climate. But as I am just a casual observer, I would appreciate pointers to the key research. Thx.
Part 1: This interesting and important debate seems to have become less focussed on the issue recently, and I wondered if it might be possible to take a step back and agree on the following foundations:
- The atmosphere is nearly 78% nitrogen, a bit under 21% oxygen, 0.0383% CO2, plus other gases incl. water vapour (1% give or take)
- However, most atmospheric gases make no contribution to the earth's greenhouse effect
Part 2:- Easily the most important GHG is water vapour. However, in terms of impact, CO2 is a more effective contributor to the GHG effect than its proportionate volume of our atmosphere would suggest.
- While water vapour appears to be responsible for 35-40% of the GHG effect, scientific tests indicate that CO2 probably accounts for at least 9% due to its molecular response to parts of the infra-red radiation spectrum
Part 3:- Overall, the total combined effect of greehouse gases results in an average global temperature of around 15 degrees C, or about 34 degrees C more than if there was no GHG effect at all.
Perhaps this might provide a useful framework for re-establishing this thread's debate focus?
Part 4: If you guys agree, then AngeAzrael, SoClimateChange and others might perhaps like to provide a synopsis of their strongly argued positions for those of us who are avidly interested in this debate.
Thank you for those sources. I find it interesting how you criticized the IPCC and their 4th assessment report and saying how they're being funded to spread propaganda on global warming even though 3 of your sources are professors from the IPCC. So now are you being selective on who to pick?
Adding more of a greenhouse gas to the atmosphere intensifies the greenhouse effect, thus warming Earth's climate. The amount of warming depends on various feedback mechanisms. For example, as the atmosphere warms due to rising levels of greenhouse gases, its concentration of water vapor increases, further intensifying the greenhouse effect. This in turn causes more warming.
Since when did I say that the sun isn't causing any temperature change on Earth? I stated before that the radiative forcing of solar irradiance is very small as compared to the radiative forcing from LLGHGs. Solar irradiance = .2 watts per square meter as compared to 2.7 watts per square meter from LLGHGs.
I have a decent brain, am a PhD in Environmental Science, and I agree with the overwhelming majority of my colleagues who have drawn accurate conclusions based on their own research and that of our compatriots in other related fields.
There are those among us who draw their own conclusions, and many who are simply dead wrong. You would be advised to study the scientific method before drawing favor to an hypothesis without first examining all valuable evidence.
"Not the opposite." That conclusion is wrong. The fact that increased temperatures cause additional "natural emissions" only compounds the problem, it does not negate it.
Greenhouse gases cause global temperatures to rise, increased temperatures cause additional greenhouse gases to be released. That is the concensus drawn from the evidence, and based on these facts your conclusion is not correct. In fact, the opposite is correct.
I can say the same thing about what you know about this whole issue since it promotes the propaganda that humans aren't responsible for global warming, but I wouldn't say that because that would mean I'm closed-minded and unwilling to listen and try to understand and learn where the other side is coming from. But I am very much willing to learn other theories, but I would need the sources you're learning your information from and bring them forth to the SOCC for further research.
Can you find those sources and post them up please and indicate where you're getting your information from? I still haven't seen them on these pages yet. Thank you. I will look at this page again tomorrow.
Again, I would have to research your findings to fully understand where you're coming from because from what I've researched, what you're stating isn't in agreement with results.
From the research that I've done, I do understand how solar irradiance affects the climate change, but it is not what you claim to be. I would need to research what you've researched from the scientists to further help me understand where you are coming from because you're not giving me any convincing evidence that solar output is currently causing our warming.
I hope you do know that there was an extensive report done by the Union of Concerned Scientists on ExxonMobil and its contributions to many scientific institutions and for reasons why. Funding isn't just to those who make "propaganda" about CO2... which I don't understand why you aren't saying anything about CH4, N20, and the halocarbons that are also LLGHGs... but also to what the scientific community call "skeptics".
I infer that you are closed minded on this whole issue as you attack my knowledge of this issue and you don't state how much you know. I do know that solar variations, volcanic eruptions, anthropogenic changes in atmospheric composition, clouds, atmospheric and oceanic circulations, latent heat, mid-latitude westerly winds, wave patterns, changes in size of ice sheets, type and distribution of vegetation, Milankovitch cycles, and much more contribute to climate.
Can you find the sources please? Please leave the comment on my channel and I will have the organization research their results and see how they correlate with other research studies relating to the same subject. As a member of SOCC, I dedicate myself to learning the different theories from both sides of the debate... not just one side. Probably the most important issue in all of these studies is who the people or groups are, where their funding is coming from, and their background and history.
So... no sources? Last time I looked, the World Meteorological Organization that consists of scientists from 189 countries actually consist of "real scientists". I do believe you understand how complex the science of climate change is.
Oh I know there is life under the surface of oceans, I was wondering if you know how large of an impact carbon emitters have on the environment as compared to the amount of carbon uptake by the oceanic plant life.
From my understanding, the increase in atmospheric CO2 causes additional CO2 to dissolve in the ocean. Changes in temperature and salinity affect the solubility and chemical equilibration of gases. The combined physical and biogeochemical changes also affect biological activity, with further consequences for the biogeochemical cycles. The change in chemical equilibrium causes a reduction of the capacity of the ocean to take up additional CO2.
May I ask where you are receiving your data from? I'm receiving my data from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, National Academy of Sciences, World Meteorological Organization, Environmental Protection Agency, NASA, and other sources.
CO2 has increased from fossil fuel use in transportation, building heating and cooling, and the manufacture of cement and other goods. Deforestation releases CO2 and reduces its uptake by plants. Carbon dioxide is also released in natural processes such as the decay of plant matter. The largest known contribution comes from the burning of fossil fuels.
The differences in radiative forcing estimates between the present day and the start of the industrial era for solar irradiance changes and volcanoes are both very small compared to the differences in radiative forcing estimated to have resulted from human activities. As a result, in today's atmosphere, the radiative forcing from human activities is much more important for current and future climate change than the estimated radiative forcing from changes in natural processes.
The radiative forcing (the influence of a factor that can cause climate change) of solar irradiance in watts per square meter is .15-.2 compared to the LLGHGs (Long-lived greenhouse gases)'s radiative forcing of approximately 2.5 watts per square meter. Solar output does have an influence on climate change, but it is very small compared to anthropogenic contributions.
I repeat, Science doesn't rest on its misconceptions (but the public does) it tests, is open to new understanding. T. Stocker, Univ. of Bern, Switzerland;
"CO2 is about 30% higher than ever, methane 130% higher; the RATES OF INCREASE are absolutely exceptional: for CO2, 200 times faster than at any time in the last 650,000 years." Perhaps changes are due not only to us, but also the decimation of forests which once removed natures CO2 as well as our own.
irpwny, the consensus opinion among climatologists--as opposed to amateurs--is that as far back as we can reliably measure, the climate has not been warmer than today. (It may have been in the late Permian, but--oh yes--that caused rather a large mass extinction event).
jolow: tsk tsk, appealing to the majority now, eh?
It was once consensus among scientists that phlogiston was fire, blacks were inferior, and women of sub-par intelligence because of their 'cranial petiteness.'
What a shame.
Not to mention, the world has risen by 1.3 degrees in the last 100 years, and even then by only .6 degrees from the "zero-norm."
Do the math, and stop it with the doomsday prophecies :)
Appealing to the majority of climate SCIENTISTS is not the same as appealing to the majority of people. Fortunately, science does not rest on its misconceptions, but tests continuously, thus the evolution in opinions you mention. They are doing my math for me. Global warming is subtle, it is slow, it is sneaky, we don't know exactly what will happen because of it, but we have some idea. Doing whatever we can to prevent it is the only conservative thing to do.
jolow: "Appealing to the majority of climate SCIENTISTS is not the same as appealing to the majority of people."
Ah yes, typing blindly and not reading a word: It was once consensus among scientists that phlogiston was fire, blacks were inferior to whites, and women were of sub-par intelligence because of their 'cranial petiteness.'
Not to mention Carnot's work in thermodynamics: he believed heat to be a fluid, and because the flow of fluids are similar enough to the transfer of kinetic energy in molecules his mistake was barely caught.
Might want to check in on the philosophy of science. You'll be quite surprised at what epistemic claims we're allowed to make.
Not to mention: you've yet to address the fact that 1.5 percent of the world's C02 is man made.
jolow: I'm sorry to have to point this out to you:
"science does not rest on its misconceptions...thus the evolution in opinions you mentioned"
You've shot yourself in the foot: science of 400 years ago, and even 100 years ago, believed itself to have been ridden of all fallacies and misconceptions. Don't make the mistake of believing in the infallibility of modern science, just like so many ancients did.
Jon, Even if the current climate trend is not completely caused by humans alone (sunspots, etc...) increased CO2 emissions by humans are not helping: if the current trend in warming was started by sunspots, it has been exacerbated and prolonged by human recklessness (no significant sunspot increase in the last 20 yrs, yet the globe continues to warm, according to Zurich Institute and others).
Hmm..last I checked, over the last 100 years "the world has warmed by 1 degree Farenheit."
How tragic.
Not to mention the world alone produces 30 times the amount of CO2 we do, and the oceans and forests absorb half of what we put out. That puts human behavior in the range of responsibility for CO2 emissions at 1.5 percent doesn't it?
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill." -- Club of Rome members Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider in their book "The First Global Revolution
"I do not know one geologist who believes that global warming is not taking place. I do not know a single geologist who believes that it is a man-made phenomenon."
it saddens me that Al Gore's words continue to get so much weight. science is all about staying current -- as it pertains to this issue, we much watch for data which correlates to climate change. co2 levels do correlate. but when we find out that there are better correlates to temperature (cloud cover as affected by cosmic rays), and that co2 has historically changed AFTER, not before co2, we should be wary of the alarmism we're seeing
Some people still deny the holocaust ever happened too, but my Great Granddad escaped from Dachau after losing most of his family. You can deny the holocaust and global climate change all you want but God told us to be good stewards of this Earth, and to watch over his creations. I intend on listening.
If you quote what God says--He also said very plainly that this world is set for destruction and that it wasn't made to last--We have only been here for but a short time- it terms of how old things are
I dont know why some people seem to be only stuck on CO2 but open your eyes, its alot more then CO2, think of all the crap in pesticides that people spray on the lawn then children play on it or we breathe in the air from the funky smelling green lawn with no weeds, then drink the water that goes into the water table from the grass/lawn. And allowing all this crap to be made in our cities and regions
Anyone see the prices of wheat, corn, cattle and everything to do with bio diesel. They are burning food for us to drive in cars. milk will be more expensive cuz the cattle farmers will have to pay more to feed the cattle. look at the index for all these such as grain, corn Commodity Prices, they are hitting highs basically everyday. burn the food while people starve and i have to pay twice as much for steak and cereal. Watch the price of farmland skyrocket, buy a farm while you still can.
Correct, the temperature of the earth has altered throughout history but never this rapidly before. And only because of increased sun activity not because of the burning of fossil fuels which is causing it now. People will only starve if the earth heats up causing droughts and making it harder to grow crops.
That's not really true. It actually causes certain areas to be inundated with too much rain while warmer temperatures leach moisture out of the soil quicker from other places. It's beginning in countries like Chad and you can see it in An Inconvenient Truth.
Richard: Correction, we're only able to "estimate" what temperatures were based on tree, fossilized, soil, etc. evidence.
And where are most temperature readings taken? In cities? Over pavement? Or in the forests and deserts of every country?
As for droughts: you're under the misconception that the rain will be sucked from wetlands and given over to deserts or disappear completely. All that will happen is climates will move northward. What is now frigid and cool Canada will be midwest US.
Al Gore uses 12 times the average energy in his own home, so even he doesn't really belive this CO2 thing. All the evironmentalists fly absolutly everywhere. i think it isn't about the climate, more about making lots and lots of cash!
Tennessee Center for Policy Research, google tennesseepolicy, it has been international news so its neutrality cannot be questioned. It has been well known t
cool !! keep safe god bless
aseohosting 4 months ago
People dont fucking get climate change and they say it's fake. It's total bull shit.
loloioi 1 year ago
WIKILEAKS cables reveal how US manipulated climate accord...
cloudsifter11 1 year ago
great. lets work
Nnomulac 1 year ago
@bryceh12321 Do people even try to question those who say capitalism is the end of history, that the world is an infinite rescource and an infinite garbage can? Do people ever question those who deny evidence showing worse pollution, waste, and disrespect to the environment...Or perhaps overwhelming scientific consensus that global climatic rise in temperature is in fact occuring, and is related to CO2 released from human industry?
Or do these questions never trouble your brainwashed mind?
wnxsilence 1 year ago
Do not fall for this fraudulent religion known as cimate change/global warming. The AGW religion is really about socialist wealth redistribution that the two high priests Al Gore and David Suzuki are trying to implement through carbon taxes. Thank God for the CRU email hack which unveiled the truth to the world. Don't let your politicians sign any treaties. You must resist.
harbar3000 1 year ago
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Please watch my video.
It's about climate change, earth catastrophe and our planet as we lives in.
Recent Earth catastrophes - Continental Drift: One huge continent became 2 continents, then 5 (or 6) and then?
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p.s. : this has nothing to do to Al Gore's politics on Climate Change
fridaysabtu 1 year ago
climate change is a fucking fraud just like most of the shit they try and scare us with, its all ball shit just to help bring in the one world government, that has is and will always be there plan untill it is complete, climate change is real in the sense that the climate is always changing but it has been changing throughout history so why are they so worried about it know, it seems to be getting colder over the last few years anyway so i think it is more global cooling than global warming
pinball281 2 years ago 4
@pinball281 this video is titled climate CHANGE. there's vast fluctuations and strange patterns in the weather. climate change and global warming are two different theories often placed in the same context. I'm not saying you have an invalid belief, but mixing the two theories is illogical.
VivaLaLipstick 3 weeks ago
There is no Santa Claus, Right vs Left, Easter Bunny or Global Warming
Not addressing the #1 factor for Environmental degradation, wildlife declines, & GHG production means its a fraud & a fail
Having Railroad Engineers, lunatics, & economists as climate experts means its a pseudo-science
Global Warming=fraud, fail, & pseudo-science
Thisawareness 2 years ago
"Things are much worse than the models predicted."
The world's oceans have risen by about an inch and a half.
Droughts and wildfires have turned more severe worldwide, from the U.S. West to Australia to the Sahel desert of North Africa.
Warming's impacts sped up, worsened since Kyoto
By SETH BORENSTEIN (AP) Nov22, 2009
Nightversionn 2 years ago
they all want some climate money
yukoncornileus4 2 years ago 2
HELL YEAH its always about MONEY and CONTROL.. ANd its so funny that is just what they are ASKING for...
AwakeningMindz 1 year ago 2
For most of earths history there were no ice caps, it was much warmer than it is today. Indeed earth is still recovering from an ice age and we should expect warming from this. Non-AGW proponents and weather forecasters predict cooling to occur over the next 100 years.
PonguigPeopinn 2 years ago
@PonguigPeopinn not at these rates.
MaxwellBennett 2 years ago
Why would the government lie to us about Climate Change? What is there to gain from it?
InhumanUnderworld 2 years ago
If you don't know the answer to that one then you have been living under a rock for most of your life. AGW is a falsehood, read: Global climate science, uncertainty & politics.
baconified 2 years ago 2
world didnt give a shit when i wanted peace instead of war, so climate change can fuck off too
flush80 2 years ago
see all thoes big buildings in the video clip...and all thoes big heated and lighted conference rooms and all thoes big assed chimneys....i dont own one of them...not one.....so how many lights have i gotta turn off in my house to save the world...?...fuck off
DARKnDODGY 2 years ago
See all these people killing each other around the world? I should I not kill also? See all these people stilling why not me also to get rich?... that the problem with people they think like sheep, and consider them self as insignificant to make a difference as a sheep is among others.
If people pressure their governments they can also turn off some of the big companies lights, but if they simply say others do the same then there is nothing to do.
vilyaarda 2 years ago
dude...if ur washing machine is leaking, dont matter how many times u mop the floor...its still gonna leak...
its all cause and effect dude...they are the cause and they tell us to clean up the effects...thats hypocrisy at its finest....the sheep are ones who think thay they themselfs are to blame, that way they are easily led...
DARKnDODGY 2 years ago
you my friend are so conditioned that now you seek to self police others...im a human being, i know right from wrong and i see this as wrong..i dont need u or them tellin me shit...thats what makes me human..
DARKnDODGY 2 years ago
climate change is natural not man made...this is just an evolved version of the angry sun god that they used to tell the small minded ignorant tribs people that didnt know anything else..the sun didnt disapear because the god was angry, it was an eclipse..the world isnt warming up cuz my T.V is left on standby over night...its natural...what the hell do u think happend to the ice age...
DARKnDODGY 2 years ago
CLIMATE CHANGE WILL HAPPEN AND YOU CANNOT STOP IT!!!
climate change happens naturally all the time, were just speeding it up which i consider to be a good thing so its out of the way!!!
do you really think you csan stop it, the world is heading for an ecological disarster like it has a million times befire, and the sad goverment is triking you all into beleving were the only sorce of it and that we can stop it well im here to tell you WE CANT!!!
mrh112 2 years ago
Here is your sources
livescience. com/ environment/ 070312_solarsys_warming. html
mars. jpl. nasa. gov/ odyssey/ newsroom/ pressreleases/ 20031208a. html
nature. com/ nature/ journal/ v428/ n6985/ abs/ nature02470. html
web. mit. edu/ newsoffice/ 2002/ pluto. html
biocab. org/ Cosmic_Rays_Graph. html#anchor_77
adsabs. harvard. edu/ abs/ 1978ApJ...223..589V
screename4231 2 years ago
New Scientist Oct 2nd 2008: THe world has been cooling since 2005: Go out doors!
JonThm 2 years ago
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People stop being stupid! Global warming is as real as Santa Claus, there is no such thing. This is just a scam for more government regulations. Google: Hegelian Principle, and be prepared to learn something you will not find in any university. No need to thank me, and sorry for calling you guys stupid but I needed your attention.
Quiksilver209 3 years ago
The weather changes. Always has done, since before man even evolved! GW was invented by nuclear power.
JonThm 3 years ago
The world has been cooling since 2005. That is real data.
JonThm 3 years ago 3
'Climate change is real' I have to agree, yesterday was nice and sunny and today it's bloody pissing it down...we must stop this madness.
scudlington 3 years ago
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To learn more about WORLDBANK plans/Climate Change = google search YouTube video :
"PROTEST-Indigenous Peoples "2nd MAY REVOLT" at the UN"
humanrightstruth 3 years ago
I am a PhD sceintist, who studied GW as his PhD. It is going to kill you! I am trying to save your life! Beat me up about this! I do not spam, I try to tell the world my ideas.
JonThm 3 years ago
The wordl has been cooling sicne 2005: Get over it.
JonThm 3 years ago
Jonathan is a retarded SPAM machine.
edeagleman 3 years ago
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NASA showed that boilnig water gives off gamma rayas: They missed out they had found molecular nuclear fusion - power from water with no cO2 or toxic death.
JonThm 3 years ago
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No. 'Climate Change' is PR frfom nuclear power. Whic hsi why thw world has been cooling aince 2005, whic hwas why nuclear power gave up on 'global warming' - more of their PR.
JonThm 3 years ago
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'man made climate change' is fiction from nuclear power. But now we can do nuclear fusion from water. Safe, cheap[ and c;lean - qwith no CO2 or toxic death.
JonThm 3 years ago
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Man has no effect on the weahter. Despite the lies from nuclear power.
JonThm 3 years ago
then you should work for nasa. its obvious your smarter then they are....
ash4432 3 years ago
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'Global Warming was ficiton invented by nuclear power. It is not teu, so they talk about 'climate change' Same objective, kill you.
JonThm 3 years ago
AGee SauceMystery, are going to reply to every video about global warming with this same argument? Evidently you are.
For those who think that the world is cooling, the polar ice caps are melting. Does ice melt in hotter or colder climates?
Raksaht 3 years ago 8
where making go faster. how foolish to think we cant effect the earth.. were trashing the oceans.
ash4432 3 years ago
@Raksaht I live in Canada, it aint warming, if the caps are melting, why isnt the northwest passage open without a fucking great icebreaker? only in the summer months if you are lucky, winter forget it even with a breaker.
So one year on and still we have icecaps, funny huh! next year and the one after that will show even MORE fuckin ice, when will you all just STFU and whine about smokers instead
assbackuds 1 year ago
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And here is the next iceage.
JonThm 3 years ago
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Scientists say the worlsd has been cooling for a couple of years. 'Climate Change' is nuclear power fiction.
JonThm 3 years ago
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The world is cooling. I recommend vests!
JonThm 3 years ago
I think that it is about time that the cities in the u.s.a. started to help in the fight against global warming. george bush can go f*** himself. i dont care if he is the president of the whole damn world. who is he to decide or try to convince other mojor polluting counties to not join the kyoto accord. if something is not done soon about the ammount of pollutants entering the atmosphere it will be our children and childrens children that will have to deal with the problems we leave behind
nygiants444 3 years ago 2
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Climate Change is just nuclear power PR, designed to kill. Wtih your help.
JonThm 3 years ago
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wake up! when will you admit this is a hoax! when the flood never comes, when the temp cools? Hitler said the bigger the lie the easier the sell BTW the WWF was founded by a NAZI
tomlykus 3 years ago
bush is a fk. up......from the start to the end...
RockofthePast 3 years ago 2
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And now for ice!
JonThm 3 years ago
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ARCTIC ICE RAPIDLY GROWING--NORTHWEST PASSAGE IS CLOSED*
*Al Gore is silent about this
MagentaTrue 3 years ago
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n^2/2 * 1 minute, where n is a volume of ice
no one can stop global warming, yeah.. like they said, "we can reduce the CO2" but GCC still will happen.
Vikenoshi 3 years ago
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The climate changes, deal with it.
JonThm 3 years ago
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Nature changes the climate, not man. No matter how big his ego.
JonThm 3 years ago
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The same guys who can't tell me if it will rain on Friday want me to believe they can predict the temperature 100 years from now...........whatever.
sirhcskoorb 3 years ago
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I am a (Dramatic Pause) Man-Made Global Warming Denier. I need electro-shock therapy. Juice me up! Come on! The more electricity required for my therapy the more warming I can cause! Whats the matter? Don't have the grapes? Sissies!
sparky413 3 years ago
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Weather is real. Climate Change is fictino from nuclear power, stooge!
JonThm 3 years ago
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Worst summer in the UK since records began - so we are nto getting climate change, but weather, LIve with it.
JonThm 3 years ago
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Climate change id made by nature, not man!
JonThm 3 years ago
who cares who pulled the trigger, are you gonna stand there and let it hit you?
shippley1 3 years ago
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No. But weatehr is just something we ahve had to cope with! Now we can do molecular nuclear fusion, and sort the cliamte out, with no CO2 or toxic death.
JonThm 3 years ago
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I like how more and more It's "climate change" instead of " global warming"...why??..it stopped warming..oops....see if they use clamate change they can blame anything on humans..too hot..too cold..more hurricanes..less hurricane....LOL It's all climate change...no why?? because THATS WHAT CLIMATE DOES......These global warming alarmists are startting to scare me........
pheil58 3 years ago
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Natural climate change is what we call weather! Man copes with the weather, he does not make it!
JonThm 3 years ago
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Molecular nuclear fusion, power with no CO2 or toxic death - see my blog!
JonThm 3 years ago
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Molecular nuclear fusion. SAfe, clean cheap power, with no CO2.
JonThm 3 years ago
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The deep sea does nuclear fusion from water on Earth, we can do it from high pressure water or steam!
JonThm 3 years ago
High pressure water or steam? Nuclear fusion only happens in very hot places such as the sun. To gain power from the fusion proces, we even need to have temperatures 10 times as hot as the sun.
theforce119 3 years ago
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Nuclear fusion goes off in the deep sea, fields of grteen crops in the light, and in your heart. How hot are you?
JonThm 3 years ago
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Global warming is a lie designed to raise taxes so that the polititians and their so called scientists- lackeys in the pay of the ipcc, a political organisation by the way - can live plush lifestyles. Climate change is the new fascism. Fear and oppression!
longscotty 4 years ago
Scientists who where honest about climate change where surpressed by the Bush administration. Reports saying that it is sure that climate change will lead to big disasters where changed by not scientists into: "there is a small change that climate change will lead to a disaster." Financial support was stopped for much projects because they had another theory about GW then the bush administration had. And so on. Exxon paid people to lie about GW. That are true facts...
Think about that.
theforce119 3 years ago 3
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Yes folks, before global warming, there WERE NO HURRICANES. Everytime there is a hurricane now, it's GLOBAL WARMING!
I'd like to point out that there is ZERO OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE IN FAVOR OF GLOBAL WARMING. The only evidence supporting it now is flawed computer models, flawed because they assume we have a perfect knowledge of the environment. We don't
+ there has been no warming since 1998
alcedias0 4 years ago
Wrong on every count....
There is a 100% chance that the earth has been warming and the trend since 1998 remains upward.
Read actual debate on easternUSWXdotcom
matildaz 4 years ago
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Matidaz...Point me to where it says that it's been warming since 1998....by the way..did you know that the ..so called global temperature dropped dramaticly last year??
pheil58 3 years ago
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I hate to break the news to the folks in the video, but carbon dioxide does NOT cause changes in temperature; it's actually the other way around.
DoubleJMG 4 years ago
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Water in turbulent flow does nuclear fusion - power with no CO2 or toxic death!
JonThm 4 years ago
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THe wordl is not warming, we are seein g weatyher! Nuclear power want to use ti to kill you!
JonThm 4 years ago
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I told the world how to do nuclear fusion in 2003. Why are you still doing the PR for nuclear power?
JonThm 4 years ago
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No global temperature rise, and seas should have risen by 15 feet since 1986. Wrong. Wrong, wrong, nuclear PR!
JonThm 4 years ago
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... - but so are farries!
JonThm 4 years ago
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Global Warming is fiction made up by the nuclear power industry! It is so not true!
JonThm 4 years ago
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CO2 supports life on Earth, and reacts to the weather!
JonThm 4 years ago
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See my site, on how to do nuclearf fusion. Thi8s site is such alarmist fiction!
JonThm 4 years ago
The War on Terror still seems to get a bit more coverage than Climate Change. Terrorism is a real problem but in the Noughties, extreme weather has killed many more people than terrorism, so really it is a more pressing issue. Perhaps terror is more shocking as its human intentions are much more direct.
CULAVE 4 years ago
I agree, US has terrorism problem to eradicate, then climatic problem can be disccused. it isnt like making a choice between apples or oranger
sanjokgrg23 4 years ago
dumbass yankees y are they not joining the fight on global warning they shud join in they got the money they make most of this carbon dixidoe lol
BIGFACE08 4 years ago
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nuclear stooge!
JonThm 4 years ago
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill." -- Club of Rome members Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider in their book 'The First Global Revolution".
neothomist1275 4 years ago
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We should just do molecular nuclear fusion, like the deep sea does! Global WArming is just fre PR for teh nuclear industry, and so not true! Stooge fro death!
JonThm 4 years ago
Great information.
It's strange how detractors of climate change try to use scientific evidence to counter scientific evidence.
Most likely the same folks who said smoking cigarettes don't cause cancer, and fat doesn't make you fat.
DOH!
logiclingo 4 years ago
to much can hurt us . also we are running short of oil
oldcrone66 4 years ago
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Climate Change is an invention of the nuclear industry, to get more plants, and kill YOU!
JonThm 4 years ago
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Climate Change is an invention of the nuclear industry, to get more plants, and kill YOU!
JonThm 4 years ago
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'Climate Change' is free PR for teh nuclear industry!
JonThm 4 years ago
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Nuclear stoge!
JonThm 4 years ago
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Nuclear stoge! First Chenobyl, the ThreeMile Island, and now you do free PR for the nuclear indsutry! Plants take in CO2, to support life on Earth.
JonThm 4 years ago
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Man made climate change is made up science. Search for 'JonThm' on how to do nuclear fusion! No CO2, or toxic waste to produce heat.
JonThm 4 years ago
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We azre not seeing global warming. We are seeing weather! Both hotter AND COLDER AROUND THE WORLD!
JonThm 4 years ago
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The IPCC threw the towel in on global warming, and renamed themselves 'the Intergovernmental panel on climate change'. THere si no proof the wordl si warming, only that we are having weather.
JonThm 4 years ago
Thanks for that AngeAzrael. While the sun is clearly the source of the initial radiation captured in the earth's atmosphere through its GHGs, I thought most peer-reviewed scientific research on changes in solar radiation/intensity over the 20th C suggested this did not provide great explanatory power for most of the change in climate. But as I am just a casual observer, I would appreciate pointers to the key research. Thx.
Zanzib123 4 years ago
Part 1: This interesting and important debate seems to have become less focussed on the issue recently, and I wondered if it might be possible to take a step back and agree on the following foundations:
- The atmosphere is nearly 78% nitrogen, a bit under 21% oxygen, 0.0383% CO2, plus other gases incl. water vapour (1% give or take)
- However, most atmospheric gases make no contribution to the earth's greenhouse effect
Zanzib123 4 years ago
Part 2:- Easily the most important GHG is water vapour. However, in terms of impact, CO2 is a more effective contributor to the GHG effect than its proportionate volume of our atmosphere would suggest.
- While water vapour appears to be responsible for 35-40% of the GHG effect, scientific tests indicate that CO2 probably accounts for at least 9% due to its molecular response to parts of the infra-red radiation spectrum
Zanzib123 4 years ago
Part 3:- Overall, the total combined effect of greehouse gases results in an average global temperature of around 15 degrees C, or about 34 degrees C more than if there was no GHG effect at all.
Perhaps this might provide a useful framework for re-establishing this thread's debate focus?
Zanzib123 4 years ago
Part 4: If you guys agree, then AngeAzrael, SoClimateChange and others might perhaps like to provide a synopsis of their strongly argued positions for those of us who are avidly interested in this debate.
Here's hoping anyway. Thanks.
Zanzib123 4 years ago
I was not "given" a PhD. I earned it by defending my work to experts whose opinions of it matter far more than yours.
laborsofhercules 4 years ago
Thank you for those sources. I find it interesting how you criticized the IPCC and their 4th assessment report and saying how they're being funded to spread propaganda on global warming even though 3 of your sources are professors from the IPCC. So now are you being selective on who to pick?
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
Do you know the science of the greenhouse effect?
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
Adding more of a greenhouse gas to the atmosphere intensifies the greenhouse effect, thus warming Earth's climate. The amount of warming depends on various feedback mechanisms. For example, as the atmosphere warms due to rising levels of greenhouse gases, its concentration of water vapor increases, further intensifying the greenhouse effect. This in turn causes more warming.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
I fear we are fighting a losing battle with this one. His stupidity appears to be surpassed only by his bad manners. *shrugs*
I look forward to corresponding with you sometime!
laborsofhercules 4 years ago
Since when did I say that the sun isn't causing any temperature change on Earth? I stated before that the radiative forcing of solar irradiance is very small as compared to the radiative forcing from LLGHGs. Solar irradiance = .2 watts per square meter as compared to 2.7 watts per square meter from LLGHGs.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
And you are a fool. I don't argue with fools.
laborsofhercules 4 years ago
I have a decent brain, am a PhD in Environmental Science, and I agree with the overwhelming majority of my colleagues who have drawn accurate conclusions based on their own research and that of our compatriots in other related fields.
There are those among us who draw their own conclusions, and many who are simply dead wrong. You would be advised to study the scientific method before drawing favor to an hypothesis without first examining all valuable evidence.
laborsofhercules 4 years ago
"Not the opposite." That conclusion is wrong. The fact that increased temperatures cause additional "natural emissions" only compounds the problem, it does not negate it.
Greenhouse gases cause global temperatures to rise, increased temperatures cause additional greenhouse gases to be released. That is the concensus drawn from the evidence, and based on these facts your conclusion is not correct. In fact, the opposite is correct.
laborsofhercules 4 years ago
I can say the same thing about what you know about this whole issue since it promotes the propaganda that humans aren't responsible for global warming, but I wouldn't say that because that would mean I'm closed-minded and unwilling to listen and try to understand and learn where the other side is coming from. But I am very much willing to learn other theories, but I would need the sources you're learning your information from and bring them forth to the SOCC for further research.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
Can you find those sources and post them up please and indicate where you're getting your information from? I still haven't seen them on these pages yet. Thank you. I will look at this page again tomorrow.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
Again, I would have to research your findings to fully understand where you're coming from because from what I've researched, what you're stating isn't in agreement with results.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
From the research that I've done, I do understand how solar irradiance affects the climate change, but it is not what you claim to be. I would need to research what you've researched from the scientists to further help me understand where you are coming from because you're not giving me any convincing evidence that solar output is currently causing our warming.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
I hope you do know that there was an extensive report done by the Union of Concerned Scientists on ExxonMobil and its contributions to many scientific institutions and for reasons why. Funding isn't just to those who make "propaganda" about CO2... which I don't understand why you aren't saying anything about CH4, N20, and the halocarbons that are also LLGHGs... but also to what the scientific community call "skeptics".
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
I infer that you are closed minded on this whole issue as you attack my knowledge of this issue and you don't state how much you know. I do know that solar variations, volcanic eruptions, anthropogenic changes in atmospheric composition, clouds, atmospheric and oceanic circulations, latent heat, mid-latitude westerly winds, wave patterns, changes in size of ice sheets, type and distribution of vegetation, Milankovitch cycles, and much more contribute to climate.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
Can you find the sources please? Please leave the comment on my channel and I will have the organization research their results and see how they correlate with other research studies relating to the same subject. As a member of SOCC, I dedicate myself to learning the different theories from both sides of the debate... not just one side. Probably the most important issue in all of these studies is who the people or groups are, where their funding is coming from, and their background and history.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
No need to degrade the credentials of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's AR4...
Exactly how is CO2 a consequence of climate change and not ONE of the causes of climate change?
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
So... no sources? Last time I looked, the World Meteorological Organization that consists of scientists from 189 countries actually consist of "real scientists". I do believe you understand how complex the science of climate change is.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
Oh I know there is life under the surface of oceans, I was wondering if you know how large of an impact carbon emitters have on the environment as compared to the amount of carbon uptake by the oceanic plant life.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
From my understanding, the increase in atmospheric CO2 causes additional CO2 to dissolve in the ocean. Changes in temperature and salinity affect the solubility and chemical equilibration of gases. The combined physical and biogeochemical changes also affect biological activity, with further consequences for the biogeochemical cycles. The change in chemical equilibrium causes a reduction of the capacity of the ocean to take up additional CO2.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
May I ask what in the oceans contributes to the releasing of carbon dioxide?
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
May I ask where you are receiving your data from? I'm receiving my data from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, National Academy of Sciences, World Meteorological Organization, Environmental Protection Agency, NASA, and other sources.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
CO2 has increased from fossil fuel use in transportation, building heating and cooling, and the manufacture of cement and other goods. Deforestation releases CO2 and reduces its uptake by plants. Carbon dioxide is also released in natural processes such as the decay of plant matter. The largest known contribution comes from the burning of fossil fuels.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
The differences in radiative forcing estimates between the present day and the start of the industrial era for solar irradiance changes and volcanoes are both very small compared to the differences in radiative forcing estimated to have resulted from human activities. As a result, in today's atmosphere, the radiative forcing from human activities is much more important for current and future climate change than the estimated radiative forcing from changes in natural processes.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
Sun activity is responsible for climate change.
The Kyoto agreement excludes India & China - the 2 fastest growing polluters. China will be the world's worst polluter in a couple of years.
robbinzo 4 years ago
The radiative forcing (the influence of a factor that can cause climate change) of solar irradiance in watts per square meter is .15-.2 compared to the LLGHGs (Long-lived greenhouse gases)'s radiative forcing of approximately 2.5 watts per square meter. Solar output does have an influence on climate change, but it is very small compared to anthropogenic contributions.
SoClimateChange 4 years ago
Wow Irpwny, did I hit a nerve?
I repeat, Science doesn't rest on its misconceptions (but the public does) it tests, is open to new understanding. T. Stocker, Univ. of Bern, Switzerland;
"CO2 is about 30% higher than ever, methane 130% higher; the RATES OF INCREASE are absolutely exceptional: for CO2, 200 times faster than at any time in the last 650,000 years." Perhaps changes are due not only to us, but also the decimation of forests which once removed natures CO2 as well as our own.
jolow999 4 years ago
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JonThm 4 years ago
irpwny, the consensus opinion among climatologists--as opposed to amateurs--is that as far back as we can reliably measure, the climate has not been warmer than today. (It may have been in the late Permian, but--oh yes--that caused rather a large mass extinction event).
jolow999 4 years ago
jolow: tsk tsk, appealing to the majority now, eh?
It was once consensus among scientists that phlogiston was fire, blacks were inferior, and women of sub-par intelligence because of their 'cranial petiteness.'
What a shame.
Not to mention, the world has risen by 1.3 degrees in the last 100 years, and even then by only .6 degrees from the "zero-norm."
Do the math, and stop it with the doomsday prophecies :)
irpwny 4 years ago
Appealing to the majority of climate SCIENTISTS is not the same as appealing to the majority of people. Fortunately, science does not rest on its misconceptions, but tests continuously, thus the evolution in opinions you mention. They are doing my math for me. Global warming is subtle, it is slow, it is sneaky, we don't know exactly what will happen because of it, but we have some idea. Doing whatever we can to prevent it is the only conservative thing to do.
jolow999 4 years ago
jolow: "Appealing to the majority of climate SCIENTISTS is not the same as appealing to the majority of people."
Ah yes, typing blindly and not reading a word: It was once consensus among scientists that phlogiston was fire, blacks were inferior to whites, and women were of sub-par intelligence because of their 'cranial petiteness.'
But we know those things aren't true, don't we?
..continued
irpwny 4 years ago
jolow: ...continued
"but tests continuously"
Wasn't it Kuhn who said scientific paradigms allow only a foundation of claims (that are uncontested) to rule the activity of science?
...continued
irpwny 4 years ago
jolow: ..continued
Not to mention Carnot's work in thermodynamics: he believed heat to be a fluid, and because the flow of fluids are similar enough to the transfer of kinetic energy in molecules his mistake was barely caught.
Might want to check in on the philosophy of science. You'll be quite surprised at what epistemic claims we're allowed to make.
Not to mention: you've yet to address the fact that 1.5 percent of the world's C02 is man made.
irpwny 4 years ago
jolow: I'm sorry to have to point this out to you:
"science does not rest on its misconceptions...thus the evolution in opinions you mentioned"
You've shot yourself in the foot: science of 400 years ago, and even 100 years ago, believed itself to have been ridden of all fallacies and misconceptions. Don't make the mistake of believing in the infallibility of modern science, just like so many ancients did.
irpwny 4 years ago
Jon, Even if the current climate trend is not completely caused by humans alone (sunspots, etc...) increased CO2 emissions by humans are not helping: if the current trend in warming was started by sunspots, it has been exacerbated and prolonged by human recklessness (no significant sunspot increase in the last 20 yrs, yet the globe continues to warm, according to Zurich Institute and others).
jolow999 4 years ago
jolow: "yet the glob continues to warm"
Hmm..last I checked, over the last 100 years "the world has warmed by 1 degree Farenheit."
How tragic.
Not to mention the world alone produces 30 times the amount of CO2 we do, and the oceans and forests absorb half of what we put out. That puts human behavior in the range of responsibility for CO2 emissions at 1.5 percent doesn't it?
irpwny 4 years ago
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The climate is everything to do with the sun! Nothin g to do with man! There is only 0.00037% CO2 in the air above cities in the UK.
JonThm 4 years ago
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No it isn't!
JonThm 4 years ago
Greetings fellow Youtubers!
Please check out my short video: This Is The Earth On Carbon -- A climate Change Demonstration...
logiclingo 4 years ago
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill." -- Club of Rome members Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider in their book "The First Global Revolution
neothomist1275 4 years ago
At least California is taking it seriously. Arnie is proof you can solve the problem and still hate hippies.
utkonos313 4 years ago
Global Warming is a religion!
phalanx25 4 years ago
Enron financed Kyoto -- because they care.
neothomist1275 4 years ago
Peter Sciaky, a geologist, writes:
"I do not know one geologist who believes that global warming is not taking place. I do not know a single geologist who believes that it is a man-made phenomenon."
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DreamNose 4 years ago
it saddens me that Al Gore's words continue to get so much weight. science is all about staying current -- as it pertains to this issue, we much watch for data which correlates to climate change. co2 levels do correlate. but when we find out that there are better correlates to temperature (cloud cover as affected by cosmic rays), and that co2 has historically changed AFTER, not before co2, we should be wary of the alarmism we're seeing
fropeness 4 years ago
do you even know what the words combustion and vegetation mean ? forget it, I guess we're doomed.
shonspirulina 4 years ago
Some people still deny the holocaust ever happened too, but my Great Granddad escaped from Dachau after losing most of his family. You can deny the holocaust and global climate change all you want but God told us to be good stewards of this Earth, and to watch over his creations. I intend on listening.
adambrantleystone 4 years ago
If you quote what God says--He also said very plainly that this world is set for destruction and that it wasn't made to last--We have only been here for but a short time- it terms of how old things are
cosa65 4 years ago
the moon landing was fake to and baseball is gay.
HierPower 4 years ago
CLIMATE CHANGE IS FAKE
pipinki 4 years ago
by the way, ride a bicycle and learn some extra skills and use it, its fun. Until you feel pain, but its better then being dead in a car accident.
HierPower 4 years ago
I dont know why some people seem to be only stuck on CO2 but open your eyes, its alot more then CO2, think of all the crap in pesticides that people spray on the lawn then children play on it or we breathe in the air from the funky smelling green lawn with no weeds, then drink the water that goes into the water table from the grass/lawn. And allowing all this crap to be made in our cities and regions
HierPower 4 years ago
Anyone see the prices of wheat, corn, cattle and everything to do with bio diesel. They are burning food for us to drive in cars. milk will be more expensive cuz the cattle farmers will have to pay more to feed the cattle. look at the index for all these such as grain, corn Commodity Prices, they are hitting highs basically everyday. burn the food while people starve and i have to pay twice as much for steak and cereal. Watch the price of farmland skyrocket, buy a farm while you still can.
HierPower 4 years ago
all bullshit-- there aren't any changes in aour climate that already occurred a many times before
If we followed the Kyoto protocall -- millions will starve and die-- stopping progress causes death--
cosa65 4 years ago
Correct, the temperature of the earth has altered throughout history but never this rapidly before. And only because of increased sun activity not because of the burning of fossil fuels which is causing it now. People will only starve if the earth heats up causing droughts and making it harder to grow crops.
Richard482 4 years ago
a warmer earth won't cause droughts-- and would make more land able to produce crops--
cosa65 4 years ago
That's not really true. It actually causes certain areas to be inundated with too much rain while warmer temperatures leach moisture out of the soil quicker from other places. It's beginning in countries like Chad and you can see it in An Inconvenient Truth.
adambrantleystone 4 years ago
Richard: Correction, we're only able to "estimate" what temperatures were based on tree, fossilized, soil, etc. evidence.
And where are most temperature readings taken? In cities? Over pavement? Or in the forests and deserts of every country?
As for droughts: you're under the misconception that the rain will be sucked from wetlands and given over to deserts or disappear completely. All that will happen is climates will move northward. What is now frigid and cool Canada will be midwest US.
irpwny 4 years ago
Yes, let us all give all of our money to Al Gore and The UN. They will protect us from the evil climate!
tonymtn 4 years ago
ALL of our money! climate is BAD!
kiserd 4 years ago
Environmentalists need to lead by example and practice WHAT THEY PREACH!
kiserd 4 years ago
people need to lead by example, bio powered homes
are quite efficiant, earth shelter dwellings that
take more money to build, payoff later...
zyx645 4 years ago
Al Gore uses 12 times the average energy in his own home, so even he doesn't really belive this CO2 thing. All the evironmentalists fly absolutly everywhere. i think it isn't about the climate, more about making lots and lots of cash!
kiserd 4 years ago
well you sir are an idiot, wheres your proof?
ngfrost 4 years ago
Tennessee Center for Policy Research, google tennesseepolicy, it has been international news so its neutrality cannot be questioned. It has been well known t