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  • I also find it strange that someone would claim that Ellen White had visions because of epilepsy.  People who say this are ignorant of the facts. She was struck by a rock, but had no visions until NINE YEARS LATER, far too long for the visions to have been caused by the rock that struck her in the face.

  • I also find it very strange that when Jesus was on earth, he picked a bunch of relatively uneducated fishermen for his disciples and future church leaders, most of whom had the basic Jewish education and no more. Yet the leaders at Jerusalem were the Ph.D.s of the day, many of whom were probably good musicians. We do know that there were musicians assciated with the temple services, so likely many leaders were probably good musicians also. I have to wonder why Jesus did this?

  • I forgot something. Paul also had a vision in a trance. In Acts 22:17, he was given a vision in a trance in which he was warned to leave Jerusalem. So, that makes 3 cases of people in the Bible being given visions in a trance, one of which, Balaam, was recognized as a prophet.

  • Jesus did talk about the Sabbath when he was on earth and in fact predicted that it would be in force and being kept nearly 40 years after his death and resurrection. In Matthew 24:20 Jesus was warning of the things to happen when Jerusalem was to be destroyed, likening it to the end of the world. In this warning, he urged that they pray that their flight to safety not be on the Sabbath day. He would not have said this if it was not to be in force in the future. He knew the future.

  • It is interesting that in fact the Bible does say that prophets went into a trance when in vision. Look at Numbers 24:16 which tells of the prophet Balaam having a vision and being in a trance. Also, the apostle Peter, the one that Catholics are so fond of, had a vision in a trance which was recorded in Acts 11:5. Strange that Cherubaby avoided these cases in the Bible. I wonder why?

  • Funny how Adventists believe in Ellen White, a mentally sick delusional woman with a 3rd grade education, but REJECT Pope Benedict XVI, a University educated man with multiple Doctorates (look up "Biography of His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI" Vatican Website via Google), who is fluent in 7 languages, who can play the piano like Mozart, who has more Knowledge and Wisdom in his little finger than Ellen White ever had in her entire deluded life! WHY IS THAT?

  • @Cherubaby Yes, Jesus did not have an Doctorate decree like Pope Benedict! No Jesus did not have all those decrees, I wonder why so many people believe in him. No Christ did not play the piano. No Ellen White had non of those decree's. Why would Jesus even think to use someone who did not have their doctorates. Only Pope Benedict would be able to portray Christ to the world. Sounds like you have been reading too many novels, mentally sick? Delusional?

  • @roadrunnervideo1 Pope Benedict VXI portrays the TRUE Christ to the World. Ellen White was a False Prophet. Show me from Scripture which Prophet ever went into a Trance (like Ellen White did) when Prophesizing? And which Prophet became a Prophet after receiving a stone to the forehead? The Truth is Ellen White suffer from Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, and her symptoms are all consistent with Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. Do some research for yourself.

  • @Cherubaby The pope will see Jesus Second coming. He will also see the Ten commandments written in the sky. The pope has convinced the entire world to follow tradition above Gods laws because what is bond on earth by the pope is bond in heaven. Why is Jesus writing the 10 commandments in the sky? Because the entire world has obeyed the Papal law's. The earths highest authority has enforced the Papal Sabbath Sunday. Yet God's written law points to the 7th day Sabbath.

  • @roadrunnervideo1 Jesus gave us a NEW Commandment. Do you know what that Commandment is? ALL the Commandments are bound up in this One New Commandment. Funny but the Sabbath is never mentioned as something to be observed by Christians, neither is Sabbath-breaking listed as one of the Sins to be avoided by Christians in Saint Paul's list of Christian Sins in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. And Revelation 21:8 doesn't mention Sabbath-breaking either. Why is that?

  • @BibleJesusChristian

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."- I think we get saved by having faith in Christ but I also think that we should keep the commandments.

  • @BibleJesusChristian Sunday is not the Mark of the Beast Yet. When Sunday is enforced by law and we are required by law to follow a man made day, then it becomes the mark of the beast. Sunday is the child of the Papacy. Protestants only use the Resurrection as an excuse. There is not one scripture supporting Sunday as a Holy Sanctified day. Catholics will tell you that. Catholics laugh at protestants! Catholics know to follow the Bible requires Saturday as the Sabbath.

  • @BibleJesusChristian Yes many Sunday keepers will be in heaven! They followed what they believe. These Sunday keepers kept Sunday like Jews kept Saturday they are not like Christians today, wishy washy! Those early Sunday keepers really kept Sunday Holy, they were not like Christians today.  Pope Benedict is trying to get the people to really obey Sunday as a Holy Day. But as new light comes many of these people accept God true Bible Sabbath.

  • @BibleJesusChristian Did Enouch obey God? He was translated without seeing death. Yes there will be people upon the earth who would rather die than sin! When the plagues are falling if you are alive you will see them but be lost. I do not know who they are but their is a group of people that will live through the 7 last plagues and the world will say they are from God.

  • @BibleJesusChristian You do not even know what you are talking about. I feel it a prevelege to be an SDA! They have more light than any other group. Most the Christian world is in total darkness! You will know where you stand when the plagues in Revelation 16 fall upon the world. I know in Whom I believe! Those who fall from truth God allows them to believe a lie. I have seen what happens to people that once have known the truth they fall into many lies and believe them.

  • @BibleJesusChristian Many Seventh-Day Adventist will be subjects of the 7 last plagues and yes they accept Jesus as their savior in lip services, but do not pattern their lives after the Savior. Many Christians do lip services!

    Its a working relationship with the Savior. Allowing the Holy Spirit to form you have Christ heavenly image. That is alot more than lip services. Allowing the Holy Spirit to form a heavenly sweetness. Many Christians are hell on wheels. 

  • @BibleJesusChristian The magic words come to Christ by faith! To believe that Jesus came to die for you that you might live for Him. Yes, the first step is to believe that Jesus is the Savior of the world and accept His atonement for sin. So do we continue in sin, God forbid! Only those who are doers of the law will be saved, not just hoping to be doers. Those who continue in sin will be subjects of the 7 last plagues in Revelation 16.

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  • MEAN WHILE YOU BUILT YOU CHURCH DRESSED IN MILKY WAY GOD ICONS AND SHAPES...YOU HETHENS~!

    YOU STINKING LIE OH HETHENS~!

    RacerX

  • @BibleJesusChristian Grace alone that is exactly right! It is only by the Grace of God that anyone will be saved. We have no right to Salvation accept through Christ. It is Christ Grace or forgiveness that gives us the right to be with Jesus.

  • @BibleJesusChristian The 7th Day Sabbath was instituted at Creation. Abraham kept the commandments, it was kept even in Christ day. He kept the 7th day Sabbath as did His disciples. Sunday did not even come about until the Mystery of inquity at Paul spoke of came about. Even Pope Paul signed a book written about the 7th day Sabbath. You see it is the man of sin the Pope that changed it and all the protestants follow on after.

    7th day Sabbath is a sign

  • If you are keeping Sunday, then to avoid the mark of the beast, you will choose to worship on God's holy day, the seventh day of the week and will cease worship on the pope's day of rest. The pope had no divine authority to change the day. The pope is the false god, the beast of Revelation 13. When the time comes for the mark of the beast, your choice will be to worship the false god or worship the true God. Your day of worship will decide your destiny. Which will you choose?

  • When that time comes, all who chose to disobey will show their disloyalty to God by worshiping him on Sunday. This will be in obedience to the pope's day of worship, a man-made rule that has no divine backing to it. Those who choose to obey God will chose to keep the Sabbath day that God has always set aside for worship of him. Though the authorities will threaten them and even kill some of them, if they are faithful to God's requirements, they will inherit eternal life.

  • While God may ignore their disobedience if done honestly and in ignorance, God will not excuse those who knowingly choose to disobey him. While he loves all of us, he still requires that those who disobey him must instead obey, and all who refuse will, if they persist in their choice and never repent of it, lose eternal life. Sunday keeping is not the only issue over which a person can be lost, but in the last days of this world, it will be the deciding test.

  • Long ago in the past, certain men, in particular the leaders of the Catholic Church in conjunction with the leaders of government in power then, decided that all Christians would worship on Sunday. It was a day of their own choosing rather than one that God choose. God never said to keep Sunday as the weekly Sabbath. People give every excuse NOT in the Bible to say that they can do as the world now does, but God has never changed his commandment to worship on the seventh day of the week.

  • People have a tendency to want to worship God according to their own preferences. But God is not man that he should consider our preferences. He is the king of the universe. He made it and he owns it - all of it, including you and I. It is his decision about how and when we are to worship. But he gives us the right to choose what we will do. Will we worship according to his directions, or will we do it our own way?

  • I don't know why you say they never have an honest answer. Did they evade the answer? Did you not like the answer and therefore think it dishonest (hey, people do that sometimes)? Based on my reading of Ellen White, she makes it very plain. She says that in order to avoid the mark of the beast, you must NOT choose to worship on Sunday when that time comes. Instead, you MUST choose to worship God according to his own directions, which means you will choose to worship him on the seventh day.

  • You need to watch the 666man on channel ronjohnston7 the events are outlined and the future foretold. My question as before what will be your question when they events take place? I know the answer you will be astonished as it says in Revelation 17.

  • Your question is interesting. Its appears loaded you have your own answer. That is why they do not answer. You do not appear as a humble man asking a question, but a proud man with the answer already. My question to you is, what will be your question when the USA enforces Sunday and the event predicted takes place and laws are made against the 7th day Sabbath and Sunday is exalted !

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