It's been a while since I've responded here on this issue. However I would like to know just what you are trying accomplish here. Is it to alert people to the civil rights infringements against the Palestinians or to berate the Israelis?
I do not intend to demonize israelis, to suggest that they are evil because of their race, religion or nationality, however I do intend to berate the israeli government and those who unquestioningly support it while it denies the basic human rights of palestinians.
I am against those dam Khazars/European Jews killing those people. They have no right to be doing that. But read that vs. If you would like to know what going to happen over their in a short time i can also show you that in scripture some of it is being fullfilled right now before our very eyes.
Everyone is a true person, no one is less of a human being than anyone else. Regardless of what the identity of palestinians is, they could be arabs, they could be chinese, they could be gay martians, it makes no difference, the only thing that matters is that israel MUST obey international law, allow the refugees to return, grant arab israelis full equality, and stop ruling over palestinians in the west bank and gaza without giving them ANY civil rights or human dignity.
You are right but the whole issue is over Identity. The only way the problem is going to be solved is to give the lanb back to whom it really belongs to. Anyway if you read the Torah in Deuteronomy chapter 28 on the curses it will show that the real Israelites were the negroes in America. modern Jews are not Israelites. They are converts khazars. The palestinians are not Israelites. Their were a few of them in the land before the Europeans came. Most of them came in the 1990's seeking work.
That's not true, that is a myth propagated by joan peters and others. There were close to a million palestinians in palestine in 1947, 750,000 of them were driven out during a campaign of ethnic cleansing called "plan dalet" by the zionists and "al nackba" by the palestinians. Those refugees have an internationally guaranteed right to return which has been denied by israel for over 60 years now, in direct contravention of international law.
I said a few. 750,000 is nothing compared to America which has over 300,000,000 people living here. The Khazars stole that land and so did the Palestinians During the Arab conquest. The British created the palestinian people and Rome created palestine. Besides the palestinians are nothing more than syrians and the outcast of the arab world. As long as the Real Israelites are away it will only get worse. Israel
Are you trying to justify a system which abuses people because of their race? The jews were driven out by the romans 2000 years ago, but that is totally irrelevant. There is no way to justify ethnic cleansing or racial discrimination by talking about history. If a person owns a home or a piece of land, you must respect that fact regardless of what color his skin is or what romans or khazars or arabs may or may not have done thousands of years ago, right?
Thats funny that you say that my friend. Ok, well in that case give america back to the natives. Give africa back to the africans. Give Egypt back to the Ethiopians. Give Mexico back to the mexicans. Give Australia back to the natives. Come now my friend Europeans have turned this world upside down. They have spread across this planet like a virus TAKING UP LAND AND KILLING EVERYONE THAT COMES IN THEIR WAY. what's your opinion on this?
I think that's absolutely true. The europeans have destroyed the world, but what do you want to do about that now? We can't go back in time and undo it, and we can't make america disappear. Giving land from one group to another group is just ethnic cleansing, and is a crime against humanity. History does not matter, what we do now and in the future matters, and we can't punish innocent people and children for what other people may have done in the past.
And I wish with all my heart brother that It would work that way but it doesn't Read torah it doesn't lie. That's what's going to bring a deity down to this planet. The Khazars and the Palestinians are parting His land.
FOR BEHOLD, IN THOSE DAYS, AND IN THAT TIME, WHEN I SHALL BRING AGAIN THE CAPTIVITY OF JUDAH AND JERUSALEM.
(2) I WILL ALSO GATHER ALL NATIONS, AND WILL BRING THEM DOWN INTO THE VALLEY OF JEHOSHAPHAT, AND WILL PLEAD WITH THEM THERE FOR MY PEOPLE AND FOR MY HERITAGE ISRAEL, WHOM THEY HAVE SCATTERED AMONG THE NATIONS, AND PARTED MY LAND.
If there ever was a Palestine what was it's capitol and what was it's culture. Also was there an indigenous Palestinian people. The answer is there is none of those. The Israelis only kill Palestinians because they are defending themselves.
Your last sentence has nothing to do with the first two. It in no way follows that if there was no palestine and no palestinians (a statement no israeli historian would make), then palestinians are somehow the aggressors in this situation. Did you ever think the aggressors might be the ones illegally occupying the west bank and gaza? Did you ever think maybe the aggressors are the ones with the fourth largest army on earth, not the kids with rocks?
Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria attacked the state of Israel, leading to fighting mostly on the former territory of the British Mandate and for a short time also on the Sinai Peninsula and southern Lebanon.The war concluded with the 1949 Armistice Agreements, but it did not mark the end of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
Actually, there was huge unrest between Jewish and Palestinians in the months prior to the 1948 War. The Arab states declared war against Israel only after the reports of the million or so Palestinians that were displaced or murdered. It shocks me now to thing that the Jewish of all people allowed this at a time when only 3 years earlier there families were the victims of a Holocaust at the hands of the Germans.
"Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria attacked the state of Israel, leading to fighting"
Then Why did Zionist movement reached a secret agreement with King Abdullah to divide the Palestine between them, so they can thwart a state for the Palestinians?
Second, the Arab armies were IRREGULAR and WEAK. This could be proven by the Israeli academics themselves.
Man! you really need a history lesson. The war commenced upon the termination of the British Mandate of Palestine in mid-May 1948 following a previous phase of civil war in 19471948. After the Arab rejection of the 1947 United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (UN General Assembly Resolution 181) that would have created an Arab state and a Jewish state side by side, five Arab states invaded the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine.
No, you need a history lesson, the ethnic cleansing of palestine began 5 months before any arab country attacked the zionist militias who created israel. It was called plan dalet or plan d, and it displaced 750,000 palestinians using violence, terrorism and murder. When the arab countries intervened, it was a half hearted attempt to stop this ethnic cleansing, and most of the battles occurred on land designated for the palestinian state by the UN.
Where do you get your information from? Hamas , just like Yasser Arafat and his PLO have always been a threat to Israeli security. And launching rockets from urban areas makes that urban area a war zone. Which goes back to what I said earlier... All is fair in love and war. And you're right in the fact that human rights have been violated. But they've been violated on both sides. However in a war there will be collateral damage where the battle is waged.
No, hamas is not a threat to israel, and neither was the PLO, hamas is nothing but a group of starving refugees with rifles and a few homemade unguided rockets, and furthermore, they have been bending over backward trying to make peace, announcing they are ready to negotiate, calling for a two state solution, offering 30 year truces, and israel simply isn't interested, because it has the 4th largest military in the world and it's holding all the cards, and I think you ought to know that.
Who's INALIENABLE RIGHTS are you speaking of? If the cowardly Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists fought like men, and not hide behind their wives and children - then no civilians wound be harmed.
The fact that the Palestinian people openly support the launching of rockets towards Israeli civilian areas means they alone bear the responsibility of their own suffering. Simply stop the rocket attacks and Israel will stop the air strikes.
Assuming your premise were true, it would be no excuse for violating the human rights of anyone, cowardly or not. Your premise is not correct, however. There is no evidence that hamas intentionally endangered anybody, if they fight in urban areas, they are no different from the IDF or any other army. Furthermore, israel broke the ceasefire, not hamas, and hamas reacted exactly the way israel wanted them to. Hamas is no threat to israel, they are an excuse to attack and decimate the gazans.
wow, finally an American speaking the truth. it's very hypocritical of the isreali's to speak of defense and anti-terrorism when they are the terrorist. people need to go to palestine and see the oppression. people are not even allowed to visit mosques unless they have a permit in their own country. that is sad, not only has the israeli gov. stripped the people of their right to religion but they are doing exactly what the nazi's did to them. it's funny how history repeats itself!
i think you mean Ruined by Isreal. ummm actually while our government is supose to be seperated from religion...its actually run according to several religious beliefs. like the FAA which won't allow two pilots to be christians and fly on same plane incase of rapture..that is also a reason why they take the side of isreal just incase. the other half is it gives us another toe hold in an oil rich region. just like why we had bases in japan for so long its strategic value pplz. learn ur history.
Really? The faa won't allow two christians to fly together!? That has to be the most nonsensical claim I've ever heard. I am actually studying for my private pilot's license, and I can tell you that the faa has no such rule and will never have such a rule. However, your statement about our toehold in an oil rich region I think is accurate. We support israel mainly because it helps us to control the middle east.
oh forgot to mention..eather 1 your trying to pull a rachel ray look or your wearing that semi-arabic looking scarf to say oh look im a great person i support palestinians by wearing this, making unfact based comments. I agree with you in only the fact that yeah we should stay out of the support game for one side or the other but your wrong in the fact that we(the british/americans) helped start and evolve the nature of the conflict by putting our ignorant 2 cents in. read some history bro.
Actually, I did read some history, I read the history of modern palestine, and the ethnic cleansing of palestine, by Ilan Pappe, and I suggest you do the same. I know the history of israel pretty well, it was founded on ethnic cleansing and terrorism, which continues to this day, with the patronage of britain, and the unquestioning support (since 1967) of america.
"your wrong in the fact that we(the british/americans) helped start and evolve the nature of the conflict by putting our ignorant 2 cents in."
would you please show some evidence that supports your claim. I am just curious.
"read some history bro."
Since you care about balanced history, which is important, would you care to list all the history books that you read about Israel? I am just curious what history books you might be reading.
ok people who gives a shit, its a fight between two arses...let them kill each other or work out their own problems it has nothing to do with us. yeah we are the fuckers who put the isrealies back in what is now isreal..forcing the pals to have to leave some of their lands that they originally occupied. basically if we would leave them the fuck alone they will eventually solve their problems or kill each other eather way problem solved. peace in the middle east.
To quote martin luther king, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. The problem is that we fund israel completely, and they are doing our bidding. Secondly, this is not a conflict about religion, or an age old conflict, or a conflict between equals, these are all myths. The truth is that palestinians, or to use your ethnic slur "pals", are being systematically denied their basic human rights in every imaginable way, solely because they are not jews, and we can't just ignore it.
how is "pals" an ethnic slur??? i just fuckin abreviated it you jerk. also its my opinion so stop being such a fuckin dusche bag. btw the word pals as in my buddy, my pal..or pals is a good word so its not a fuckin slur, not even close. if i called them towel heads for example then yes its a racial slur but i didn't i just fuckin shortend the full name. your a fuckin sheep following in propaganda is all i can say for you. if you studied history from all sides you would understand my comment.
Yes, actually it is a racial slur. I've heard it a dozens of times, every single time in hateful or dismissive tones. If you didn't mean it as a slur, then you should be aware that it is a slur and people will take it that way if you use it. You seem a bit angry, but maybe you are right, maybe I am a victim of the massive pro-palestinian propaganda of our american media.
Thats total crapand you are an idiot. All the palestinians have to do is end the terrorism and they will have there own state. But no they will never give up until they get all of israel. You people just don't get it. The Palestinians just use there plite for propanganda purposes they dont want peace they want all of Israel. So cut the BS and tell the truth.
Is that so? You really believe that the palestinians, the refugees with no real government or military, are the ones in control of this situation? You really believe that they are pushing israel around, with it's battleships and tanks and f16's and nuclear weapons? Well, if you believe that, then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. The refugees with rocks and homemade fertilizer bombs are not the agressors, they are the victims, I don't know why that's so hard to comprehend.
And I see your name is landrover. You run over other pople's land! Israel won't give up until they get all of gaza. It is a really horable thing when your family is starving right in front of you and the people, living just over that border are living like fat pigs, like we do, eating a great diet, going on trips, doing fun things on land that is really yours. If I were there would put every one of my shitty rockets into Israel to give them the message, people are tired living like animals!
isreal and palestinians both want the same thing..the governments at least want to wipe each other out..its the same situation as what happened long time ago in the ozark mountains with the hatfields and the mccoys..its a fued..just on a large scale. most want to stop, but the majority have unfounded hatred that is further fueled by intolarence and outside forces.
The Missiles equipped with white phosphorous are not precision weapons, but are weapons affecting broad areas for the purpose of increasing a kill radius on the ground.
Many Palestinians were hurt badly or killed by the burning phosphorous that melts the flesh.
The use of this weapon proves the intentional targeting of civilians since it is not a precision weapon that controls the dispersion of its armament.
Just think about it you little blubberhead. If your best friends had the power of modern warfare in their hands - will they be hesitate to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.
No I now how tye REAL "useful idiot" looks like.
Go google the term "Useful idiot", you moral baboon
I don't know what palestinians would do if they had the tanks and warplanes that israel regularly slaughters them with, and neither do you, but at least then it would be a fair fight, and not a slaughter. Shame on you for calling me immoral, just because I disapprove of the killing of innocents. I am not the useful idiot, I know the truth, and I know what's wrong for palestinians is also wrong for israel. If you were not the mental slave of the current israeli government, you'd know too.
Well, I DO know what your baboon friends would do if they had all those toys in their pockets. Being moslems they'd obide the call of their crazy prophet and kill everything that moves and breathes to cleanse the "islamic" land from infidels. I know those guys from my army days. They're ruthless to us, infidels.. The reason you're a "useful idiot" is not because you're stupid. You're a typical moral relativist bloody heart suicidal liberast, having no idea of what's goin on outside of the fence.
You mean because I advocate the human rights of palestinians I'm a bleeding heart liberal? You think that when you were walking around with an m16 shooting at palestinians they hated you because of your religion? Could it possibly have been because you were walking around with an assault rifle shooting at them and controlling every aspect of their lives? The reason you are a racist, is because you think of, and speak of, palestinians as "baboons".
My assault gun wasn't piece o'shit M16. That was AK47. You live in a Dream, baby. And like most stupid fat brained americans do you take all the Western values (human rights included) for granted. The people you're screaming your ass out to protect will slit your (or mine, or your neighbour's) throat in a cold blood in the name of Allah, like they do it all around the Globe. And You sincerely believe if we allow them to kill all the jews out there they would be happy and peaceloving. Do ya?
fat brain? Thanks, I appreciate that, but I suspect my brain is just normal sized. AK 47? Nice, I like them, accuracy is not as bad as people say, and good stopping power, unlike the M16. The palestinians aren't out to "kill all jews", they want equality, they want justice, they want israel to stop colonizing and killing them. Yeah, there are a few lunatics, but so what? You don't pay attention to them, you pay attention to the moderates and deal with them if you want peace.
You can call me "racist". Why? Because I have great respect to Human Race. If you do NOT behave as a Human you're not one anymore. I agree w/u that jews desrve this islamic shit beating them all ower. Accrdn to Bible they've came there 3000 years ago and massacred all the dwellers who lived there in the name of ther piece o'shit Jehova. What would they expect in return?But! We live TODAY, and they're already there and they're gonna stay there, and if HAMAS don't like it they will be eliminated.
No, I'll call you racist because you think that all arabs are the same and that they're all bad. When you realize that they're not all the same, and not all bad, then maybe you won't be so racist. I don't care about the bible, no one deserves to be oppressed, jew or arab. I just don't agree with you that all arabs want to oppress jews.
i enjoyed that as it reflects on my personal views we've seen how the US & UK and other major countries with their hypocrisy about human right, and dalfour and many other places, why would they ask for justice for them and not the Palestinians? is it gilt of what happened in WW2? dose the Palestinians have to die for what the Nazi done? how can we support their call for justices? People are dying everywhere and when we stand up and we ask then democratically to stop they push as to the side!
americans have been brainwashed for decades through the hollywood jewish mass media. they have complete control of mayor newspapers, magazines, publishing companies, banks, insurance companies, etc, etc, etc. you will NEVER see anything against them. also our schools are fed propaganda telling us that those people are our enemies. the government has no right to dictate to me who i choose to have as my enemy or friends.
Thank you for describing the situation so carefully, and bringing out the reasons why we must all wake up. It is so odd that many in America seem to approve of this slaughter of people who trapped in a pen, and of this ethnic cleansing, so much that they are willing for billions of tax dollars to go to it. It is horrific. Thank you for making this video, as you are very articulate and maybe will get through to some. We must change the rhetoric around this situation.
swedish tv networks are using footage from Al Jazeera(wich is prolly the only tv network having reporters in gaza) for free. Two large swedish supermarket chains (Ica & Lidl) relabled israelian fruit and vegetable to make belive it came from spain and not israel. A huge amount of people are starting to boyjott Israelian products.And the Swedish foreign minister have condemned Israel. But still a large mayority in Sweden backs up israel.2/ 7 congress parties wanted to cancel davis Cup game vs Isr
Thanks for this vid. We need more people like you making awareness.!!!!
I just pray and hope that the palestines will find peace soon. they are our people, forget religion and everything else they are human just like us all. thats what matters their human beings!! who do not deserve to die!!!!
Great clip thank you for speaking out. We need more people to do the same so the truth will be heard. The media and gov. are as guilty as the butchers in iZrael for burying & twisting the truth. It is also amazing that they are equating this brutal parasitic entity which has the 4th strongest army in the world to the few freedom fighters with simple hand held weapons. The slaughter in Palestine must stop, and those guilty RATS must be punished. This will NEVER be forgotten. Thanks again
Ur last statement was very touching....its just sad that many Palestinians dont realise that they r not alone in this struggle for justice, freedom and equity.....
great speech, 5 stars
Angles786 8 months ago
you are a real dhimmi!
pallywoodlies 8 months ago
@pallywoodlies I guess that makes you a goy.
n8glenn 8 months ago
It's been a while since I've responded here on this issue. However I would like to know just what you are trying accomplish here. Is it to alert people to the civil rights infringements against the Palestinians or to berate the Israelis?
norrin0 2 years ago
I do not intend to demonize israelis, to suggest that they are evil because of their race, religion or nationality, however I do intend to berate the israeli government and those who unquestioningly support it while it denies the basic human rights of palestinians.
n8glenn 2 years ago
I am against those dam Khazars/European Jews killing those people. They have no right to be doing that. But read that vs. If you would like to know what going to happen over their in a short time i can also show you that in scripture some of it is being fullfilled right now before our very eyes.
raieyez 2 years ago
The Negroes in America are the Real Israelites lets discuss that.
raieyez 2 years ago
I don't know what difference it makes who is an israelite.
n8glenn 2 years ago
Well knowing who the true peope are makes a difference. The Palestinians are not Israel. The British came up with alot of this Bull shit.
raieyez 2 years ago
Everyone is a true person, no one is less of a human being than anyone else. Regardless of what the identity of palestinians is, they could be arabs, they could be chinese, they could be gay martians, it makes no difference, the only thing that matters is that israel MUST obey international law, allow the refugees to return, grant arab israelis full equality, and stop ruling over palestinians in the west bank and gaza without giving them ANY civil rights or human dignity.
n8glenn 2 years ago
You are right but the whole issue is over Identity. The only way the problem is going to be solved is to give the lanb back to whom it really belongs to. Anyway if you read the Torah in Deuteronomy chapter 28 on the curses it will show that the real Israelites were the negroes in America. modern Jews are not Israelites. They are converts khazars. The palestinians are not Israelites. Their were a few of them in the land before the Europeans came. Most of them came in the 1990's seeking work.
raieyez 2 years ago
That's not true, that is a myth propagated by joan peters and others. There were close to a million palestinians in palestine in 1947, 750,000 of them were driven out during a campaign of ethnic cleansing called "plan dalet" by the zionists and "al nackba" by the palestinians. Those refugees have an internationally guaranteed right to return which has been denied by israel for over 60 years now, in direct contravention of international law.
n8glenn 2 years ago
I said a few. 750,000 is nothing compared to America which has over 300,000,000 people living here. The Khazars stole that land and so did the Palestinians During the Arab conquest. The British created the palestinian people and Rome created palestine. Besides the palestinians are nothing more than syrians and the outcast of the arab world. As long as the Real Israelites are away it will only get worse. Israel
raieyez 2 years ago
Are you trying to justify a system which abuses people because of their race? The jews were driven out by the romans 2000 years ago, but that is totally irrelevant. There is no way to justify ethnic cleansing or racial discrimination by talking about history. If a person owns a home or a piece of land, you must respect that fact regardless of what color his skin is or what romans or khazars or arabs may or may not have done thousands of years ago, right?
n8glenn 2 years ago
Thats funny that you say that my friend. Ok, well in that case give america back to the natives. Give africa back to the africans. Give Egypt back to the Ethiopians. Give Mexico back to the mexicans. Give Australia back to the natives. Come now my friend Europeans have turned this world upside down. They have spread across this planet like a virus TAKING UP LAND AND KILLING EVERYONE THAT COMES IN THEIR WAY. what's your opinion on this?
raieyez 2 years ago
And In that case let the negroes in America return to Israel. Hell Deut. chapter 28 proves that the negroes in America Are Israel.
raieyez 2 years ago
I think that's absolutely true. The europeans have destroyed the world, but what do you want to do about that now? We can't go back in time and undo it, and we can't make america disappear. Giving land from one group to another group is just ethnic cleansing, and is a crime against humanity. History does not matter, what we do now and in the future matters, and we can't punish innocent people and children for what other people may have done in the past.
n8glenn 2 years ago
And I wish with all my heart brother that It would work that way but it doesn't Read torah it doesn't lie. That's what's going to bring a deity down to this planet. The Khazars and the Palestinians are parting His land.
raieyez 2 years ago
Joel 3:2
FOR BEHOLD, IN THOSE DAYS, AND IN THAT TIME, WHEN I SHALL BRING AGAIN THE CAPTIVITY OF JUDAH AND JERUSALEM.
(2) I WILL ALSO GATHER ALL NATIONS, AND WILL BRING THEM DOWN INTO THE VALLEY OF JEHOSHAPHAT, AND WILL PLEAD WITH THEM THERE FOR MY PEOPLE AND FOR MY HERITAGE ISRAEL, WHOM THEY HAVE SCATTERED AMONG THE NATIONS, AND PARTED MY LAND.
raieyez 2 years ago
If there ever was a Palestine what was it's capitol and what was it's culture. Also was there an indigenous Palestinian people. The answer is there is none of those. The Israelis only kill Palestinians because they are defending themselves.
Deleanredtiger 2 years ago
Your last sentence has nothing to do with the first two. It in no way follows that if there was no palestine and no palestinians (a statement no israeli historian would make), then palestinians are somehow the aggressors in this situation. Did you ever think the aggressors might be the ones illegally occupying the west bank and gaza? Did you ever think maybe the aggressors are the ones with the fourth largest army on earth, not the kids with rocks?
n8glenn 2 years ago
"there are no islamic states" , whoaaa , LOL..
you must be kidding me
xxxnaorxxx 2 years ago
I believe the rest of the sentence was, "well, there are islamic states, but no one supports them."
n8glenn 2 years ago
how are you so sure about that..? why israel shouldnt be supported? huh?
xxxnaorxxx 2 years ago
Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria attacked the state of Israel, leading to fighting mostly on the former territory of the British Mandate and for a short time also on the Sinai Peninsula and southern Lebanon.The war concluded with the 1949 Armistice Agreements, but it did not mark the end of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
norrin0 2 years ago
And?
n8glenn 2 years ago
Actually, there was huge unrest between Jewish and Palestinians in the months prior to the 1948 War. The Arab states declared war against Israel only after the reports of the million or so Palestinians that were displaced or murdered. It shocks me now to thing that the Jewish of all people allowed this at a time when only 3 years earlier there families were the victims of a Holocaust at the hands of the Germans.
CuntreeBoy 2 years ago
I can't believe I missed this:
"Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria attacked the state of Israel, leading to fighting"
Then Why did Zionist movement reached a secret agreement with King Abdullah to divide the Palestine between them, so they can thwart a state for the Palestinians?
Second, the Arab armies were IRREGULAR and WEAK. This could be proven by the Israeli academics themselves.
Nothing you have said is historically correct.
italia981 2 years ago
Man! you really need a history lesson. The war commenced upon the termination of the British Mandate of Palestine in mid-May 1948 following a previous phase of civil war in 19471948. After the Arab rejection of the 1947 United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (UN General Assembly Resolution 181) that would have created an Arab state and a Jewish state side by side, five Arab states invaded the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine.
norrin0 2 years ago
No, you need a history lesson, the ethnic cleansing of palestine began 5 months before any arab country attacked the zionist militias who created israel. It was called plan dalet or plan d, and it displaced 750,000 palestinians using violence, terrorism and murder. When the arab countries intervened, it was a half hearted attempt to stop this ethnic cleansing, and most of the battles occurred on land designated for the palestinian state by the UN.
n8glenn 2 years ago
"The war commenced upon the termination of the British Mandate of Palestine in mid-May 1948"
What was the purpose of Plan D?
"After the Arab rejection of the 1947 United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine"
First, look at the conditions for UN partition plan. Of course, Arabs won't accept it.
Second, Arabs were NOT OBLIGATED to accept the partition plan.
third, why Ben-Gurion DELETED any reference to the partition plan the evening BEFORE declaration was announced?
Fourth, Why do you lie?
italia981 2 years ago
Where do you get your information from? Hamas , just like Yasser Arafat and his PLO have always been a threat to Israeli security. And launching rockets from urban areas makes that urban area a war zone. Which goes back to what I said earlier... All is fair in love and war. And you're right in the fact that human rights have been violated. But they've been violated on both sides. However in a war there will be collateral damage where the battle is waged.
norrin0 2 years ago
No, hamas is not a threat to israel, and neither was the PLO, hamas is nothing but a group of starving refugees with rifles and a few homemade unguided rockets, and furthermore, they have been bending over backward trying to make peace, announcing they are ready to negotiate, calling for a two state solution, offering 30 year truces, and israel simply isn't interested, because it has the 4th largest military in the world and it's holding all the cards, and I think you ought to know that.
n8glenn 2 years ago
Who's INALIENABLE RIGHTS are you speaking of? If the cowardly Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists fought like men, and not hide behind their wives and children - then no civilians wound be harmed.
The fact that the Palestinian people openly support the launching of rockets towards Israeli civilian areas means they alone bear the responsibility of their own suffering. Simply stop the rocket attacks and Israel will stop the air strikes.
The peace cannot be won through violence.
norrin0 2 years ago
Assuming your premise were true, it would be no excuse for violating the human rights of anyone, cowardly or not. Your premise is not correct, however. There is no evidence that hamas intentionally endangered anybody, if they fight in urban areas, they are no different from the IDF or any other army. Furthermore, israel broke the ceasefire, not hamas, and hamas reacted exactly the way israel wanted them to. Hamas is no threat to israel, they are an excuse to attack and decimate the gazans.
n8glenn 2 years ago
Did you ever hear the phrase....ALL IS FAIR IN LOVE AND WAR?
norrin0 2 years ago
Did you ever hear the phrase -- ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, AND ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN INALIENABLE RIGHTS?
n8glenn 2 years ago
wow, finally an American speaking the truth. it's very hypocritical of the isreali's to speak of defense and anti-terrorism when they are the terrorist. people need to go to palestine and see the oppression. people are not even allowed to visit mosques unless they have a permit in their own country. that is sad, not only has the israeli gov. stripped the people of their right to religion but they are doing exactly what the nazi's did to them. it's funny how history repeats itself!
fashionprogucci32992 2 years ago
we need more people like you in the US. spread the word, man! great job :)
maryam027 2 years ago
Thanks mary, and thanks for subscribing, I hope all is well in orange county.
n8glenn 2 years ago
it's Maryam! an arabic name...you should know this! tsk tsk, haha just kidding! it's cool, man. Cheers!
maryam027 2 years ago
i think you mean Ruined by Isreal. ummm actually while our government is supose to be seperated from religion...its actually run according to several religious beliefs. like the FAA which won't allow two pilots to be christians and fly on same plane incase of rapture..that is also a reason why they take the side of isreal just incase. the other half is it gives us another toe hold in an oil rich region. just like why we had bases in japan for so long its strategic value pplz. learn ur history.
coolbeans278 3 years ago
Really? The faa won't allow two christians to fly together!? That has to be the most nonsensical claim I've ever heard. I am actually studying for my private pilot's license, and I can tell you that the faa has no such rule and will never have such a rule. However, your statement about our toehold in an oil rich region I think is accurate. We support israel mainly because it helps us to control the middle east.
n8glenn 2 years ago
oh forgot to mention..eather 1 your trying to pull a rachel ray look or your wearing that semi-arabic looking scarf to say oh look im a great person i support palestinians by wearing this, making unfact based comments. I agree with you in only the fact that yeah we should stay out of the support game for one side or the other but your wrong in the fact that we(the british/americans) helped start and evolve the nature of the conflict by putting our ignorant 2 cents in. read some history bro.
coolbeans278 3 years ago
Actually, I did read some history, I read the history of modern palestine, and the ethnic cleansing of palestine, by Ilan Pappe, and I suggest you do the same. I know the history of israel pretty well, it was founded on ethnic cleansing and terrorism, which continues to this day, with the patronage of britain, and the unquestioning support (since 1967) of america.
n8glenn 3 years ago
Dear coolbeans,
How are you? :-)
"your wrong in the fact that we(the british/americans) helped start and evolve the nature of the conflict by putting our ignorant 2 cents in."
would you please show some evidence that supports your claim. I am just curious.
"read some history bro."
Since you care about balanced history, which is important, would you care to list all the history books that you read about Israel? I am just curious what history books you might be reading.
thanks a lot :-)
italia981 3 years ago
ok people who gives a shit, its a fight between two arses...let them kill each other or work out their own problems it has nothing to do with us. yeah we are the fuckers who put the isrealies back in what is now isreal..forcing the pals to have to leave some of their lands that they originally occupied. basically if we would leave them the fuck alone they will eventually solve their problems or kill each other eather way problem solved. peace in the middle east.
coolbeans278 3 years ago
To quote martin luther king, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. The problem is that we fund israel completely, and they are doing our bidding. Secondly, this is not a conflict about religion, or an age old conflict, or a conflict between equals, these are all myths. The truth is that palestinians, or to use your ethnic slur "pals", are being systematically denied their basic human rights in every imaginable way, solely because they are not jews, and we can't just ignore it.
n8glenn 3 years ago
how is "pals" an ethnic slur??? i just fuckin abreviated it you jerk. also its my opinion so stop being such a fuckin dusche bag. btw the word pals as in my buddy, my pal..or pals is a good word so its not a fuckin slur, not even close. if i called them towel heads for example then yes its a racial slur but i didn't i just fuckin shortend the full name. your a fuckin sheep following in propaganda is all i can say for you. if you studied history from all sides you would understand my comment.
coolbeans278 3 years ago
Yes, actually it is a racial slur. I've heard it a dozens of times, every single time in hateful or dismissive tones. If you didn't mean it as a slur, then you should be aware that it is a slur and people will take it that way if you use it. You seem a bit angry, but maybe you are right, maybe I am a victim of the massive pro-palestinian propaganda of our american media.
n8glenn 3 years ago
And thank you for your great video... it is very much appreciated by the mankind...
I'm sure about that!
med1367 3 years ago
add zoos too... even other animals were hit by Isreal... by the walking troops!
that's a Godless and baseless state!
med1367 3 years ago
You are a very intellegent man! make sure to spread the word around! we should have more people in the United States like you!
hahaha2531 3 years ago
Thats total crapand you are an idiot. All the palestinians have to do is end the terrorism and they will have there own state. But no they will never give up until they get all of israel. You people just don't get it. The Palestinians just use there plite for propanganda purposes they dont want peace they want all of Israel. So cut the BS and tell the truth.
landrover31 3 years ago
Is that so? You really believe that the palestinians, the refugees with no real government or military, are the ones in control of this situation? You really believe that they are pushing israel around, with it's battleships and tanks and f16's and nuclear weapons? Well, if you believe that, then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. The refugees with rocks and homemade fertilizer bombs are not the agressors, they are the victims, I don't know why that's so hard to comprehend.
n8glenn 3 years ago
And I see your name is landrover. You run over other pople's land! Israel won't give up until they get all of gaza. It is a really horable thing when your family is starving right in front of you and the people, living just over that border are living like fat pigs, like we do, eating a great diet, going on trips, doing fun things on land that is really yours. If I were there would put every one of my shitty rockets into Israel to give them the message, people are tired living like animals!
hahaha2531 3 years ago
isreal and palestinians both want the same thing..the governments at least want to wipe each other out..its the same situation as what happened long time ago in the ozark mountains with the hatfields and the mccoys..its a fued..just on a large scale. most want to stop, but the majority have unfounded hatred that is further fueled by intolarence and outside forces.
coolbeans278 3 years ago
The Israeli government has gone too far.
The Missiles equipped with white phosphorous are not precision weapons, but are weapons affecting broad areas for the purpose of increasing a kill radius on the ground.
Many Palestinians were hurt badly or killed by the burning phosphorous that melts the flesh.
The use of this weapon proves the intentional targeting of civilians since it is not a precision weapon that controls the dispersion of its armament.
AbounaZarabbas 3 years ago
Just think about it you little blubberhead. If your best friends had the power of modern warfare in their hands - will they be hesitate to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.
No I now how tye REAL "useful idiot" looks like.
Go google the term "Useful idiot", you moral baboon
amper0003 3 years ago
I don't know what palestinians would do if they had the tanks and warplanes that israel regularly slaughters them with, and neither do you, but at least then it would be a fair fight, and not a slaughter. Shame on you for calling me immoral, just because I disapprove of the killing of innocents. I am not the useful idiot, I know the truth, and I know what's wrong for palestinians is also wrong for israel. If you were not the mental slave of the current israeli government, you'd know too.
n8glenn 3 years ago
Well, I DO know what your baboon friends would do if they had all those toys in their pockets. Being moslems they'd obide the call of their crazy prophet and kill everything that moves and breathes to cleanse the "islamic" land from infidels. I know those guys from my army days. They're ruthless to us, infidels.. The reason you're a "useful idiot" is not because you're stupid. You're a typical moral relativist bloody heart suicidal liberast, having no idea of what's goin on outside of the fence.
amper0003 3 years ago
You mean because I advocate the human rights of palestinians I'm a bleeding heart liberal? You think that when you were walking around with an m16 shooting at palestinians they hated you because of your religion? Could it possibly have been because you were walking around with an assault rifle shooting at them and controlling every aspect of their lives? The reason you are a racist, is because you think of, and speak of, palestinians as "baboons".
n8glenn 3 years ago
My assault gun wasn't piece o'shit M16. That was AK47. You live in a Dream, baby. And like most stupid fat brained americans do you take all the Western values (human rights included) for granted. The people you're screaming your ass out to protect will slit your (or mine, or your neighbour's) throat in a cold blood in the name of Allah, like they do it all around the Globe. And You sincerely believe if we allow them to kill all the jews out there they would be happy and peaceloving. Do ya?
amper0003 3 years ago
fat brain? Thanks, I appreciate that, but I suspect my brain is just normal sized. AK 47? Nice, I like them, accuracy is not as bad as people say, and good stopping power, unlike the M16. The palestinians aren't out to "kill all jews", they want equality, they want justice, they want israel to stop colonizing and killing them. Yeah, there are a few lunatics, but so what? You don't pay attention to them, you pay attention to the moderates and deal with them if you want peace.
n8glenn 3 years ago
You can call me "racist". Why? Because I have great respect to Human Race. If you do NOT behave as a Human you're not one anymore. I agree w/u that jews desrve this islamic shit beating them all ower. Accrdn to Bible they've came there 3000 years ago and massacred all the dwellers who lived there in the name of ther piece o'shit Jehova. What would they expect in return?But! We live TODAY, and they're already there and they're gonna stay there, and if HAMAS don't like it they will be eliminated.
amper0003 3 years ago
No, I'll call you racist because you think that all arabs are the same and that they're all bad. When you realize that they're not all the same, and not all bad, then maybe you won't be so racist. I don't care about the bible, no one deserves to be oppressed, jew or arab. I just don't agree with you that all arabs want to oppress jews.
n8glenn 3 years ago
i enjoyed that as it reflects on my personal views we've seen how the US & UK and other major countries with their hypocrisy about human right, and dalfour and many other places, why would they ask for justice for them and not the Palestinians? is it gilt of what happened in WW2? dose the Palestinians have to die for what the Nazi done? how can we support their call for justices? People are dying everywhere and when we stand up and we ask then democratically to stop they push as to the side!
CorvetteTeaser 3 years ago
americans have been brainwashed for decades through the hollywood jewish mass media. they have complete control of mayor newspapers, magazines, publishing companies, banks, insurance companies, etc, etc, etc. you will NEVER see anything against them. also our schools are fed propaganda telling us that those people are our enemies. the government has no right to dictate to me who i choose to have as my enemy or friends.
hevidt 3 years ago
Thank you for describing the situation so carefully, and bringing out the reasons why we must all wake up. It is so odd that many in America seem to approve of this slaughter of people who trapped in a pen, and of this ethnic cleansing, so much that they are willing for billions of tax dollars to go to it. It is horrific. Thank you for making this video, as you are very articulate and maybe will get through to some. We must change the rhetoric around this situation.
MyVeryBesttoYou 3 years ago
swedish tv networks are using footage from Al Jazeera(wich is prolly the only tv network having reporters in gaza) for free. Two large swedish supermarket chains (Ica & Lidl) relabled israelian fruit and vegetable to make belive it came from spain and not israel. A huge amount of people are starting to boyjott Israelian products.And the Swedish foreign minister have condemned Israel. But still a large mayority in Sweden backs up israel.2/ 7 congress parties wanted to cancel davis Cup game vs Isr
hillhulll 3 years ago 2
that's great, and it will get better, israel and it's mental slaves are on the wrong side of history.
n8glenn 3 years ago
Very good points made and well said
rossyboy1000 3 years ago
good video n8
vintage217 3 years ago
Thanks for this vid. We need more people like you making awareness.!!!!
I just pray and hope that the palestines will find peace soon. they are our people, forget religion and everything else they are human just like us all. thats what matters their human beings!! who do not deserve to die!!!!
sarajanebryans16 3 years ago 2
Great clip thank you for speaking out. We need more people to do the same so the truth will be heard. The media and gov. are as guilty as the butchers in iZrael for burying & twisting the truth. It is also amazing that they are equating this brutal parasitic entity which has the 4th strongest army in the world to the few freedom fighters with simple hand held weapons. The slaughter in Palestine must stop, and those guilty RATS must be punished. This will NEVER be forgotten. Thanks again
iLovePalestineDotCom 3 years ago
Thanks for all humans who has the courage to say the truth despite all mass media lies and prejudice.
karamantine 3 years ago
The Muslim countries must take matters into their own hands, and then the US government will be forced to make a fair solution.
If it calls for the toppling of some coward Arab leaders, so be it.
akamal1113 3 years ago
yes im with u fuck arab leaders
subzeroevildusk 3 years ago
Thanx Nate for another well spoken vid......
Ur last statement was very touching....its just sad that many Palestinians dont realise that they r not alone in this struggle for justice, freedom and equity.....
IMANSMUMMA 3 years ago