Jacque Fresco-Oct 12, 2010 - Investigating Behavior (2/5)

[adam90876]

Survival and Replication instinct is all.

[Sidionian]

I love this guy.

"The trees are wobbling in the wind -- you know what I mean. No seriously, do you understand what that means...?"

"There's a word that we use for lava -- can you understand that? Do you know where I am going with this? Are you following what I'm saying here? I am talking about lava, do you understand that?"

Oh man, I love this guy. I wish I could walk up to him and kiss his cute little head.

Muah!

[myhandisburned]

u know what that means? lol it made me laugh everytime

[quantumt1]

Jacque is the most inspiring mind I've ever encountered.

[AustralianAllTheWay]

I could listen to this guy all day long...

[WJValente]

OK, so there is no "human nature", or even "human behaviors", but only "human reactions/responses" in relation to something. OK, I got it!

[44eelz]

i noticed ppl say things usually they mean almost the opposite, is there a word for that when ppl hide their feelings behind a word or a motive??

[stayalive1017]

every time i hear Fresco talk i feel myself wiser.

[SuperAlexthefox]

i hope that after Jacque die F.B.I. wont take all hes document like thei did with Nikola Tesla.. i am ready to do anything to make the Venus projekt become our projekt!!

[iamdk007]

the moon wobbles due to the moon doesnt it. a perfect orbit for life here. i cant account for...anyway, cause and effect is a little misleading because reality is one event, one process. i can very well say the cause of me was the big bang. you understand? we have to use words to translate our experience which in its very nature trancsends words. science is a method of measurement. the approximation is what gets better. physics is a good example. words are subject to interperatation. thats mine

[eggfleece]

when i listen to jaque fresco i feel like mankind are becoming machines and that its a good thing ..because machines have no human fear or need for spirituallity they just resonate in harmony ...............yes i am stoned :)

[Mastery14]

There is plenty of love in the world and love will prevail because love prevails all, it is the strongest force in the universe and is our natural state. Unconditional love is to express kindness and sincerity to everyone you come into contact with, without any judgement. Yes you are conditioned to think depending on your environment and surroundings, but if you always act on love then love will overpower everything that there is.

[deIeteThisComment]

HOPE THAT WHATEVER IT IS YOU SPEAK OF IS DOCUMENTED

[099749]

Negative attitude drinks?

A happy shake? A Naughty cola?

He is not happy, You must first define what you mean by happy! Then you will see he is really just reacting to the happy shake, and producing a reaction we call happy!

"So he is happy then?" No he is having a "happy" reaction. "So there is no happy? there are just reactions to enviroment, which we label and term as happy or love or sad?"

Yes, basically we are all just reacting, you are not free you are a reactive robot..

[Nillaine]

Thanks for uploading these interviews. Mr. Fresco is indeed a very intelligent and unique human being. I’d be very interested to hear his opinion on spirituality and extra-terrestrials.

[QAAproducts]

6:03 he contradicts his own argument. He is reclassifying instinct, and denying hereditary knowledge: when do we LEARN to suck the teat?

[thevenusprojectmedia]

@QAAproducts will try to run that by him when see next, thx

[thevenusprojectmedia]

@QAAproducts "when do we LEARN to suck the teat?" When the organism is reinforced by the stimulus of milk flow-until that point the infant just sucks at anything nearby

[lspmd2]

@thevenusprojectmedia Is the "infant sucking at anything nearby" the same as the organisms breathing or eye blinking functions?

[shad455]

@QAAproducts wow... lol.

[leon888888888]

@QAAproducts species that did not ''use to" suck the teat are not around us any more... that mechanism of responding to the environment helped those who sucked teats survive... (so keep sucking ;p )

[binslick1964]

@QAAproducts Hereditary knowledge.We humans don't inherit knowledge we pick up from the environment..Knowledge can be positive or negative.

[INDIOIRLANDES]

cant belive he has 94, he look like very active and plenty of life ,, i hope mother earth keep him for another 100 years... i want him for president from my country...

[Brettyification]

Always respect a Man who owns an Alligator

[TobiPK]

Can anyone recommend books on this topic? That would be great

[bigbawser]

utopia is a word that's relevant. the rest is bullshit!

[toninobologny]

Once you get the masses into the biospheres there will be some that will decide what they will be allowed to know... Anyway, you will have to create a block to the Metaphysical world...

[toninobologny]

Was Jacque ever married? If so, was it a competitive relationship? Children from a competitive set of parents will always have the propensity to play KING OF THE HILL. So will it take hundreds of years to stamp out competitiveness?

[OxiDemonik]

Yeh, he's basically just talking about classical conditioning.

[gibbsies]

@thevenusprojectmedia that's what i said too..

[gibbsies]

one part that i can't quite agree with is when jacque says:

"An inventive mind is not an in-born process, it's a person with a hell of a lot of tools."

what exactly is that supposed to mean?

einstein was a genius, but which tools did he have other than his mind, a pencil, and paper?

[nigeltheukhammer]

I think he's too focused on observing things objectively. He mentions the Indians dancing around the fire with the hat around 14:20 then has the audacity to state it does nothing? Did it ever occur to Jacque that maybe the native Americans receive a benefit from this dance that can only be understood subjectively over time? None the less he's still a very bright man...especially for his age. But Indians don't just continue their rituals for "nothing" as he so carelessly claims.

[DoS37]

@nigeltheukhammer

what I think he means is that that act is not extensional to the surroundings.

[Shep11111]

@nigeltheukhammer Jacques is 94 and can't articulate as well as he once could. He often repeats things, doesn't follow through with clear explanations, etc. However the teachings are there in his work. I think by nothing he meant it does nothing for the world i.e create rain, or speaking to a GOD. Again he doesn't articulate as well, I'd say that is all that he meant. You seem to be taking it from a self serving pov. I.E the natives enjoy the tradition of it and that creates good feelings..?

[bang187]

@nigeltheukhammer what benefit did the dancing rituals gave the indians? other than exercise and mabye a good laugh? u tell me... ?

[nigeltheukhammer]

@bang187 perhaps exercise and a good laugh are enough of a reason to do most things my friend. Maybe it didn't add to society with some technological breakthrough but it was a part of their spiritual culture that no one could possibly understand unless they experienced that culture subjectively. Since i am not a Native American i cannot give any definitive answer as to why.

[bang187]

@nigeltheukhammer but still, its a nothing thing. not even the indian native can explain it themself :)

[steelpython]

@bang187 Actually, I can explain quite a bit about that that you should already know. For one, exercise does wonders to the health of the mind and body. Social gatherings allow individuals to collectively express and develop their ideas, which increases the psychological/emotion/physical­/spiritual bonds between them.

When people recognize similarities and become comfortable with one another, it makes it a hell of a lot easier for them to appreciate their differences.

All work and no play...

[QAAproducts]

@bang187 "what benefit did the dancing rituals gave the indians? other than exercise and mabye a good laugh? u tell me... ?"

Rituals gave them a chance to review their Oral Knowledge. Also increased their sense of community.

[nigeltheukhammer]

holy crap this guys 94 years old!!!!

[Veloce3]

I like JF alot....However, he seems to rely very much and his conclusions are in part based on what "they say"

I'm not sure that provides a foundation on which to establish a foundation from which to work.

Perhaps one can only profess to know or perceive only what they have experience of and nothing else . In that case JF is jumping the gun

[enciertaoracion]

It does seem to me that the so-called transition process will take quite some time.

It becomes truly hard to handle what under the light of knowledge about your project becomes a nightmare at times. It would be interesting to know what you do to survive, and how else, besides this video do you respond to this insanity.

[hmoob7]

"If you lived for a billionth of a second, no planet ever explodes."

Blind blown!

[hybrid212]

pt 3..! :) this is a great lecture

[silfidecontemporanea]

pt 3?

[pigeontoucher]

@silfidecontemporanea plz

[PCcancer]

greetings from Romania :) i watch all your videos , all your lectures are brilliant ! i will pass on all your teachings . thank you for making things clear :)

[ibvalentin]

Where can be found the other 3 parts of the lecture?

[MegaMindgames]

We want part 3 don't be lazy ;D

[TheVenusMan]

Someone needs to set up a little hovercraft with a camera to follow Jacque around all day. Then, he can just occasionally look up from his current drawing and say something poetic and wise, to appease our appetites.

[thevenusprojectmedia]

@TheVenusMan we try to, roxanne doesn't want to ride him too much though because he will push himself too hard by tendency, at 94 he is relatively very active.

[Whopzer]

@thevenusprojectmedia: Ride him..? In what way?

[rcacad]

@TheVenusMan A reality show would not be out of the scope of entertainment.....For crying out loud, if people think building motercycles or picking through junk is cool, what about a modern day Divinci? HOLEY SHIT, call the producers NOW!

[pshaw951]

@TheVenusMan So is he just a object of entertainment for the fancy of people interested in his work?

[gasto5]

Again, amazing thing he said about love. If only all would understand this...

[MrIrishDrink]

"Absolute truth freezes things." The quote i love from this clip.

[TZMNorway]

I love that he keep saying: You know what that means?

cuz i do. ^^

[LAsolsken]

It's always so refreshing to hear Mr. Fresco speak. Thank you for posting!

[RestauranteChines]

I've been searching fot the book "Science and Sanity" from Korzibksi so I can understand better Jaques explanations, however I could only find it in english on the web. Does anyone know that if there is a portuguese version?

[jjepsuomi]

wow :) thnx for uploading the vids ;)

[javonne]

Damn! I wish he was my school teacher :(

I lerned more from this video alone, than any school I've ever been to

[Bluedash3r]

@javonne hahaha damn thats true

[diG1tY]

@javonne Yes, that's the whole idea. The governments doesn't want you to have good teachers. If they DID want you have good teacher, they would have thought you(and me, and everyone else for that matter) to important things. Not bulshitting us with pointless facts, nobody gives a shit about.

[narutokatara]

@javonne  sorry for voting down, it was an accident when trying to vote up :(

[099749]

12.42 from high altitude waves don't move? He is so all over the place.

[099749]

"the primative man just looks at the world and grins" J.F

[LiamSwordsz]

4:35 'Love is not only meeting someones needs, but giving them the tools to fufill their needs'

[thevenusprojectmedia]

@LiamSwordsz right..i told roxanne they should do a book of jacque quotes

[LiamSwordsz]

@thevenusprojectmedia already on it! =P

I've got quite a lot with links to where i got them too.

[Biophily]

@thevenusprojectmedia They should do a biography.

[berniemac18]

@LiamSwordsz : FUCKING THANK YOU.  :)

[SpiritLadyArtist]

I disagree on the love issues. I agree one can need without love. It is the desire to be in or near the space of another being. It is the energy of life. The more such energy one has the more one survives and is happier in emotional tone levels. It is part of what life is. It is always present to a lower degree or another. It can turn negative to hate.

[thevenusprojectmedia]

@SpiritLadyArtist 2:45 "you can't use a word like love without defining..." I think the word itself suffers so much semantic challenge to use in a general sense

[SpiritLadyArtist]

@thevenusprojectmedia I can see your point. Maybe Affinity would work better.

[enciertaoracion]

@thevenusprojectmedia What great reply!

[gasto5]

@SpiritLadyArtist Missed the point. Love is one of the most ambiguous, misused words of all time. I dispise the word more than hatred. Because it is supposed to give hope, but it is used by the dishonest as a manipulation tool.

[gasto5]

@SpiritLadyArtist Missed the point. Love is one of the most ambiguous, misused words of all time. I despise the word more than hatred. Because it is supposed to give hope, but it is used by the dishonest as a manipulation tool.

[cinquain0]

@SpiritLadyArtist You said love is energy to life, currently there is no scientific evidence that makes such statement. What you are saying is completely subjective and emotional. Although I do not completely agree with Jacques on Love, I still find your argument non plausible.

[SpiritLadyArtist]

@cinquain0 It is not emotional but logical but sometimes science is a bit slow to confirm.

It is as you wish it to be. Without caring a persons emotional tone level is slow. Call it sad, Depression whatever. It is real. The more affinity one has the better off a person is emotionally. I am not going to try to convince anyone of this. I got a headache now so rather not do the back and forth thing. I have my reality on the matter. If you think about it you may see the point.

[SpiritLadyArtist]

@cinquain0 There has been research on it but it has not been done scientifically and that should be done.

I wast trying to describe something that is looked at differently than I can say in these few lines here. The more affinity you have the better one life is for it is happier is the best I can describe it. So I call it affinity. Liking of something and the degrees of it is the energy of life. Less affinity = more towards the side of being depressed.

[berniemac18]

@SpiritLadyArtist : HOW DO U DEFINE LOVE?

[SpiritLadyArtist]

@berniemac18 I think spiritual beings have been trying to answer that question for millions of years. IIT is a high degree of affinity with trust and has to have great reality of the other being and great communication. The more you have of these the more understanding one has.

It is the willingness to be close to something for the most part and the desire to be so.

[berniemac18]

@SpiritLadyArtist : believe it or not, u didnt answer the question lol. but thats the semantical issue we globaly share. no need 4 response. i have enough debates on this issue at home. thank u 4 the reply tho

[SpiritLadyArtist]

@berniemac18 I answered it and I don't want a debate as well. It is my answer. Sadly I have not found it. It is where one trusts as well for a good reason. IF there is no trust that is real there is not love. It is something else. Now night night I got to sleep.

[berniemac18]

@SpiritLadyArtist : thats the differance wright there, YOUR ANSWER. = ego

no matter how YOU slice it in your kitchen, 1+1 doesn't = 3

[givemericht]

@SpiritLadyArtist And what of the people that love being alone? What of those that are driven to harmful behaviour by their "love"? And those that love to hate? I have said for a long time that love means nothing in our society, conditional and contrived as it is. Those around me claim to love me, I claim to love them but that does not make my "emotional tone" any happier, I remain nihilistic and entertained that the world would make me so. Is that my real love?

[SpiritLadyArtist]

@givemericht Then I would say the person and or yourself needs to do some soul searching. Otherwise I can't nor am I going to get into a discussion with this as I have reached my knowledge level. Take that any way you wish. Not being picky but often people take things not as intended.

[ArcologyDesigns]

@SpiritLadyArtist Love is the word used to describe a mathematical variable, the value of which is determined by the organic organism in question (i.e., homo sapiens). When you see people throughout the day (of the opposite gender) your internal, subconscious cognitive functions assign a value to these individuals that is a direct function of their potential to 1.) reproduce; and 2.) sustain organic offspring to maturity. Thus, 1.) can be said to be "attractiveness" and 2.) to be "intellect".

[SpiritLadyArtist]

@ArcologyDesigns In a way are right but not in a way you say so. There is much more to it than that as it is part of the energy of life. Anyhow I don't think I will be responding much here any more. I am sick.

[iamdk007]

@SpiritLadyArtist it seems to me its the communication that is love or allows for love. if you sit two people in a room and they dont talk, they have no means to fall in love. children from orphanages and places like that are more likely to become autistic because of the lack of nurture, communication or simply love from the parents that should have been there for them, esspecially around the early years. watch is mind over matter and energy by bruce lipton, great man. love is feeling connected.

[jystyle]

interesting, Is the universe intelligent?

Nothing is really intelligent, everything just is. Its true as Mr Fresco pointed out Universe compared to what is intelligent? Its the only thing we know is the Universe. Everything is the universe, Me and you are in it and part of it. Are we intelligent? Perhaps, but we are conscious and the universe may be conscious as well.

[MegaMindgames]

I miss you and Roxanne!

[tunnis7us]

Finally some new talks and really good ones. Can't wait the other parts to come out :)

[KADAMASOUL]

I luv this guy face, great for 3D, and his gestures :S

[WJValente]

After I awoke to Jacque Fresco's idea's, I find myself unable to go back to my prior knowledge of the system and the world at large.

[gfdecarvalho]

@WJValente it's 'einstein's law': a mind that opens up to a new idea never comes back to its original state

[theblackmanOyeah]

@WJValente indeed. we are too awake to go back to sleep. i find myself thinking the same thing.

[Shep11111]

@WJValente I found the same thing. Zeitgeist and Jacques have opened a whole new world to me over the last 2 years. One that I am educating myself on to the fullest so that I can impact the views of ppl in my area. However I must admit that my "enlightenment" did come at a cost of some real depression for awhile and I believe other people must go through that as well in order to "reach the other side" for lack of a better term

[TheBillibabu]

@WJValente u are so right!!! i'm going through the same thing now..i feel alienated from the rest of the world!

[thevenusprojectmedia]

@TheBillibabu that's why you have to work on your friends and anyone you can reach or you will feel that way. It is hard if not impossible to go back to how you were when you were more 'well adjusted'. If you see the sense in this direction you wouldn't want to anyhow. Join the activism teams and find others who are learning about this and it helps everyone feel less isolated. Go to the tvp site, to get involved-then global activism.

[TheBillibabu]

@thevenusprojectmedia actually my frustration started after i tried to discuss this with my friends.most of my friends are business students(like me),they are so heavily indoctrinated that they are in denial!moreover,i come from a poor country,so ppl here are busy making ends meet,they dont have the time to worry about the system and most ppl are sceptical and are also scared of something so different than the current system.anyway,thanks for your suggestion,i'll surely check out the tvp site :)

[blackpanther6389]

@WJValente Same here man!

[michael1991123]

@thevenusprojectmedia Thank you for this video.

There is no point made that was not explained

[silfidecontemporanea]

I wonder what jacque thinks about "preparenness" in behaviorism, like being "instinctively" affraid of spiders. (This one is easy to know down.)

But what about "instinctual drift" in operant procedures, I have not been able to recreate an experiment myself on this, but it seems legitimate.

[XTCMatrix]

Ohh, so one upload a day I see :).

Send my regards to Jacque, and if you don't mind ask him about an alternative type of road maybe? that would withstand the elements for A LONG TIME without repair?

[BoyExplodes]

Everyone on Earth could each get a good education from listening to Jacque talk. Sometimes I wonder what he would say if he were to go in front on the UN.

[moety2]

@BoyExplodes lol they probably wouldn't like what he would have to say. If he was being honest, probably say go back to school to learn about stuff that will actually be useful or quit your job so the people educated in those areas can move into them lol