Kucinich at Single-Payer Hearing

[FRSFreeStateES]

Nominating Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich to run together for President would be like nominating Barry Goldwater to run with Jack Kennedy. Their very different politically.

[XM8rifle]

Paul/Kucinich 2012 would be retarded. They have really different opinions.

[nVei06]

what are american's waiting for? get people like boorens18 and kill them!

[boorens18]

lol shoo troll. I didnt lie, not a single time (evident by the fact that you couldnt specify) So nope, shoo troll outta here. Don't make me find my troll stick :P

[nVei06]

all his beginning answers were "why dont you tell us"

no they weren't.. that inaccuracy is ok with you, because simply truth is not an object with you. if kuchin said it IT'S FACT. i'm not going to convince you, i want to convince honest people.

[nVei06]

he asks a nurse how this will be an economic stimulous. wow. this isn't even keynesian economics. if that was economics, what are they waiting for, just hand out money and forget about work.

[nVei06]

canadian mexiacans and united states citizens are all americans. even panamanians brazilian, peruvians, chileans.

[funster13]

before the Bush created economic problem do you know how many were already homeless?

[Paolo7219]

Dr. Gratzer could not answer Kucinich's questions. Not honestly anyway. So the good doctor started complaining that Mr. Kucinich was picking on him. Well, boo-hoo. Gratzer should have been able to answer the questions he was asked had he been able to support his (false) claims with facts. Dr, Gratzer couldnt. It's as simple as that. The US has THE most expensive health care system in the world--by far. Thank Big Insurance and Big Pharma for that.

[boorens18]

@Paolo7219 that and is ranked 37 in the world. Not even a good investment

[nVei06]

@Paolo7219 that's not at all what happened.

[nVei06]

these government jobs do not support a real economy. their money is drawn from taxes on comodities based businesses which are hurt everything you diminish their returns. they want to build their kremlins on these houses of cards and they're willing to remove all your rights to demand that they stand in the winds of change.

[nVei06]

kucinich is a little dog. look at :58 the guy wants to be specific about what is what is being said, but he just wants to spit cherry picked 'statistics'. 4 weeks? in what way is it 4 weeks, kucinich doesn't want to let him speak. depends on how you define things, and this dog is dishonest and vulgar. He is guilty. this is terrible.

[boorens18]

@nVei06 are you stupid? No seriously. The phrase "depends on how you define things" is probably the oldest stall/attempt to avoid a question there is. There was nothing to define...the question was simple...how many people go bankrupt because of their health insurance premiums... He does let him speak...he lets him answer the question, then cuts him off when once he starts to try to babble his way out of it with stalls. The fact is, this guy doesnt like the facts. cuz they prove him wrong.

[nVei06]

@boorens18 i don't know what he was trying to say, kuchin wouldn't let him speak.

[boorens18]

@nVei06 all his beginning answers were....

"why dont you tell us"

sorry but what about that confuses you? Clearly he doesnt have an answer.

Then he follows up, though what he says is meaningless because all Kucinich did was cite a fact....facts are inarguable. So who gives a shit what bullshit ramble he was about to make...you cant argue with facts. That was about how it went from then on. kucinich reveals facts, the guy tries to lie at one point too. that was awesome.

[nVei06]

@boorens18 boorens apparently you can not tell the truth. should be killed. he let answer nothing. When he said, 'why don't you tell us?' kuchin didn't want to because he only wanted to berate and lie. and look how effectual it was on you.

[boorens18]

@nVei06 lol he didnt want to??? He did. Several times. Lol so if you are mocking me because facts are effective at changing my mind, the only statement I'd have to give is....wtf convinces you if not facts? Convienent lies? lol and when someone slaps you in the face with facts you want to kill them? Hm I have a country that you will absolutely LOVE. South Africa, you should check it out. No goverment regulation, you can kill dissenters, and facts are ignored. Like a vacation for u no?

[nVei06]

one out of six people are starving for health care? this line should put Dennis Kucinich on death sentence. those 1 out of 6 people, are healthy yet they need health coverage, THey're starving for it? pay the bueracrats. This dishonest bullshit should not be tolerated. Kucinich=deceptive promoter of dishonest overship.

[Paolo7219]

Dr. Gratzer was NOT dissenting. He was EVADING the questions! Dr. Gratzer was clearly using deception to dishonestly answer the questions. Dr. Gratzer is clearly not willing to answer the questions because he intended to lie his way through his testimony. Dr. Gratzer was clearly LYING about the wait periods for elective surgery. Notice how Dr. Gratzer refused to answer the actual question he was asked?

[nVei06]

the questions was, how many insured people go without treatment due to high insurance cost due to the insurance companies. the question is baited bologna and that is why he didn't answer it. he was trying to think about what it means. does that mean 1 out of 4 people decide not to pay the deductible for bumps and bruises. i think that's what it means.doctors know who pays them. those inner city tax moocher go to the doctor more than anyone. real solutions are not what they want .money.

[boorens18]

@nVei06 if you think that question needs time to figure out what it means...you arent smart enough to handle this issue...and thus you arent smart enough for your opinion to matter.

When people tally votes, they ignore yours...just so you know.

[nVei06]

you simply should be killed. a liar without restraint. must be killed. you must be labeled, located and destroyed. true.

[HeComesUndone]

um...There are hundreds of thoudsands of people who have no health care. I know poeple personally... So youre wrong.

[wharfboyslim]

It is better to have a longer wait for health care than to h ave NO health care at all. That i s the position I think is more important. However, it seems that some American do not subscribe to that position. I would suggest that Americans take the best of ALL the systems available and tweak it to get the best system.

I do not subscribe to the fact that the current system should remain unchanged as some senators and congressmen AND the insurance industry would like.

[Isawanangel1X]

i go without, and i pay for insurance

[Paolo7219]

Dr. Gratzer should be held in contempt of Congress. Throw him in jail for 90 days and fine him. Otherwise these guys will continue to flip off questioners by using evasive/dishonest answers.

[yablonowitz]

Obviously you guys have never worked in the private sector, or else you would know that there is far more waste and abuse in the private sector than there could possibly be found in Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. Medicare only recently fell into financial problems because of George Bush's Medicare Prescription Drug plan. Remember him?

[kungfoochicken08]

I dont understand how people think that OUR government would be able to cut costs or even break even when theyve ran everything else into the ground. Amtrak, USPS, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, our annual budget, etc etc. I mean good god, if you think government waste is terrible now wait until they get ahold of healthcare.

[Vorpalbite]

OBAMA CARE is a government program and it will have rules

Whats going to happen to fat people and pot or cigerette smokers ?

THEY WILL BE TOSSED OFF THE SYSTEM !

There will be far more people with out coverage under obama care than there currently are today

[Isawanangel1X]

actually oreilly mentioned the fat tax the other day

[WorldTravelDude]

Actually we (Canadians) have the highest percentage of marijuana smokers in the industrialized world and NONE will ever be tossed out of our universal health care system.

[Yoseman1]

What a piece of worthless shit this Doctor is. Fucking worthless lacky.

[logtype47]

Would anyone care to know who provides financial support to the Manhattan Institute of which David Gratzer is representing?

Answer:

- CIGNA Corporation, a private healthcare concern

- Bristol-Myers Squibb, a pharmaceutical corporation

David Gratzer is a young hack job who was quickly promoted to senior fellow due to his ability to tow the line for private healthcare. He offered a industry scripted argument based on pseudo-calculations and got a verbal smackdown from Dennis Kucinich.

[weedipikia]

You could tell Dr. Gratzer didn't want to answer that last question. He did everything to get around it.

[PsychoPunk1965]

Dennis Kucinich is a great man, and I wish he was president instead of the person in the White House today...

[lifeline52002]

Dennis is a nut job plus were did he get his information from a Liberial Group in Canada that think waiting for 4 weeks to fine out if your Goverment will pay for it. or

wait for 3 weeks to fine out if you will have an MRI pay for.

Gee that mean a wait like that , mean you may be dead by the time they say yes.

O well just think Die before it get approve and guess what the Goverment Save Money.

[PsychoPunk1965]

Dennis Kucinich is one of the most intelligent members of Congress. I am sorry that you enjoy getting your viewpoint clouded by the "intellectual sewer of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News." The American private insurance companies are equal to murders and kill more people in one year than a group of 19 Saudi Arabians who killed 3,000 people on 9-11. It is funny how you approve of our failed market system which exist also in many third world police states while our closest allies have universal care.

[lifeline52002]

Tell me how is it the you say Universal care is so good when if you live in Canada the wait time is up to 4 weeks for a say open heart surgery or up to 3 weeks to just get an MIR done.

Tell me is that the type of care you want, funny ask Dennis Kucinich if he would give up the Congressman Healt Care Insurance for the one they are now trying ot pass. I bet he would say no.

So if you like this type of Health Care move to Canada or England. were you can wait for care , just hope ur around.

[PsychoPunk1965]

Because medical care is actually better for the people of Britain and Canada than it is here. What's NOT a sexy news headline are average people in the UK and Canada that gets the public healthcare they need, get treated, and have their lives go back to normal without bankrupting them.

[lifeline52002]

Hey if you think that Britain or Canada have a better Healt Care than please go

thier and have your Health Care done.

But remember in those countries their is a wait , plus in Canada and Britain they only allow so man special Surgry a year so the Goverment will not run out of money. Also the Hospitals ( Most ) are

Goverment run and Drs work for the Goverment as well.

So if this is what you want go their and get your care. Explain why Britian and Canada come here for better care.

[lifeline52002]

By The way your viewpoint is clouded by intellectual sewer of Dennis Kucinich,

gee well since you like to put some one down for their belive than I can also put ur down for ur belive.

Bet you do not like it ast all oh well Dennise will take care of ur health ok by denying u cover till u die , welcome to govermant run health care.

[PsychoPunk1965]

Don't worry. Not even the shitty blue dog Democratic plan will be enacted. It's probably a good thing since it is more like corporate welfare to the parasitical insurance companies instead of "socialized medicine." Private health insurance will be allowed to reign without anyone getting those predators under control. I expect to see nothing done about healthcare other than to continue the status quo which means corporately orchestrated murder of those who are the sickest and poorest...

[lifeline52002]

Another thing I do not understand ever thing about our healt care is being bland on the Inusrance Company and you say they have cause more death than any terrorist . Well name me on time an insurance company kill some one.

I know Dennis Kucinich say Insurance should not make a profit at all than he must be saying they need no employer

to work their as well.

Plus mybe you would like to be insurce with a company that have no Reserve to back up and pay claims that my come up.

[PsychoPunk1965]

When insurance companies deny people because of pre-existing conditions and trying to find reason not to cover treatments even if someone regularly pays for their premiums. 18,000 Americans are murdered by our medical system which operates through the "(free) market." We do not need private health insurance which is killing our country. What we need to do is to be like our closest allies and do the civilized thing like create Single Payer Healthcare or a National Health Service.

[lifeline52002]

Oh yes that is right Dennis never say anything about this. So hey if you want a Single Payer Healthcare move to Britian or Canada. Because I do not want some

Goverment Commission made up of Politica appt people to say if I should have a surgry and take up to 4 weeks or even 4 months to make up their mine

I had to have a open heart surgry in June and if I did not get care wright away I would have been dead. So my Insurance company said yes in a min after the Hospital ask if they cover it

[PsychoPunk1965]

You may not want "government run healthcare," and I sure as hell don't want private sector medicine which is killing the most vulnerable. I hope to see the destruction of private health insurance companies.

[lifeline52002]

All I ask you to think of this, you say you do not want private Sector Medicine Healt Insurance any more and I am sure you like to see all Doctors also under one Goverment Control and only work for the Goverment as well . Plus I am sure you want to do away with all Private Hospital even those that are not and put them under Goverment Control.

Well guess you think it is ok to trun it all over to the Goverment and guess what you will have the biggest Private Health Care you ever seen.

[PsychoPunk1965]

Even more than Single Payer (which is National Health Insurance funding private care as it is done in Canada), I would rather see the creation of a National Health Service (as it exist in Great Britain whereby the government owns the healthcare institutions and directly employ doctors and nurses). I make no apology for this because the NHS in Great Britain is in good shape. The Brits are not suffering nor having their civil liberties lost due to the NHS. We Americans are the ones losing out.

[crogromphulous]

@PsychoPunk1965 google Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich together. TOGETHER THEY CAN WIN.

Register to vote as a Republican, or he CANNOT win the Republican nomination, because YOU will NOT be eligible to vote for Ron Paul ticket in the PRIMARY! You can still vote however you want in the final election.

[mtemrich]

When Dr. Gratzer cites his stats I think to myself. OK that is all well and good, but wouldn't these stats by so much better and so much more inexpensive to achieve if a large portion of the cases were handled in a managed care system instead of in emergency rooms?

[bart11114]

Well it's a bit ironic that this is Paul Kucinich 2012 and this vid is about health care. Which Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are so far apart on. Kucinich wants a single payer health care system, while Paul says the government shouldn't have any involvement with health care. So you can't agree with both of them on that issue.

[PsychoPunk1965]

Ron Paul is opposed to universal healthcare; HOWEVER, he supports individual states taking care of their own healthcare systems weather it is done through the market approach or through single payer. I am a socialist myself, but I respect Ron Paul.

[kanani717]

Hey thats pretty cool...I didnt think he would allow states rights to go that far.

[coolgamer1677]

I'd vote Kucinich-Paul... not so sure about Paul-Kucinich...

[markdown01]

TripperLV, if that is for me, then please do send an e-mail with that info & we'll debate. Best not here but on the salient points. Ron Paul & Libertarians have one reason to be so against The Fed, overseas wars, etc., it's not pacifism or helping the little guy survive in this world, it's self-interest. Their 'solutions' have a singular net result no matter how they posture, reducing their responsibility to help others to benefit themselves. Just like the elite. Only with less money. Wannabees.

[TripperLV]

Pulled that guys covers! Way to go!

[cowboystitching]

Can I just say that the idea of a Kucinich/Paul ticket is not only out of the question but also absurd???

[wdgeo]

I thought Kucinich s first name was Dennis?

No audio on this one either?

[TripperLV]

It is unless I missed something.

[wdgeo]

I was making a joke (not a very witty one) about the username: votepaulkucinich2012 Who is Paul Kucinich??

Dennis Kucinich is GREAT though!

btw, anyone else having a problem hearing the audio on this video?

[TripperLV]

LOL ... sorry, I missed the joke. The audio is fine on my end and I agree Kucinich is great, he really pulls the witnesses covers. I wish we had more like him. Thanks, RJ

[markdown01]

Once asked in an interview what would replace safety nets for the needy (not freeloaders, the really needy, ie. totally disabled, etc.) Ron Paul said. "I dunno, charity?". His exact words, and he went on to change the subject as not to look like the totally self-centered jerk he is and represents. They're quick to blame the victims, and single out the undeserving 10% who get aide who don't need it, ignoring the 90% who do. They don't hate the greed of the elite, they envy them. Little wannabes.

[TripperLV]

Not to sound argumentative, but I would suggest reading Paul's book Manifesto which is addresses that question in more detail. Paul does a better job in the book. If you're interested, let me know and I will be happy to discuss the issue with you in more detail. Thanks, RJ

[xcave1]

Why would an American hero like Dennis Kucinich ever run on the same ticket with an anti-American Constitution hating racist bigot like Ron Paul?

[audiohi]

what a fail of a comment

[markdown01]

Ron Paul once said the USA was at its best in the late 1800s. When JD Rockefeller's Standard Oil rose to power. Financed by JP Morgan who owned 90% of all business. When we had no workers comp, no laws against child labor. No safety net. The Libertarian view is everyone for themselves. If you want to live like that, move to Africa. There are defense & infastructure only govts. galore there, and the globalist elite love it, they create that, and privatize everything for profit (the IMF's role).

[audiohi]

Talk about a strawman argument...

please try again.

[RickWarrenisjesus]

Except that Ron Paul is a moron following a failed, utopian ideology no better than theoretical communism.

The last thing we need is Paultards involving themselves in a problem easily solved by universal healthcare, as all non bias insurance industry statistics actually show.

The rest of the Western world know's it. All except silly little America.

[markdown01]

To the person who's channel put this up. Kucinich 2012. At best, Paul as a VP only (he'll be too old to serve when Dennis' term would be over, tho we know agents of real change never win so that won't happen anyway). Ron Paul wants to eliminate everything but defense and infastructure spending. Libertarianism like that is nothing but a direct system to aide the elite who hoard everything and punish us all. People first. Regulate business, they do NOT self regulate. That is a libertarian myth.

[markdown01]

Give war a chance? What a name. War is a for profit ponzi pyramid scheme, like the 'health insurance' industry is that is designed to take a lot of money from those further down the pyramid and move it up to those at the top. Please explain how Kucinich is a scumbag? He didn't support Bush's PNAC crusades? He is making a point, everything he says is true. 1/4 of those with health insurance go without care they can't afford. Our system is a massive failure. Single payer is the only true fix.

[nakedfrenzy6241]

@markdown01 I disagree with a single payer system. I say corporations in bed with big government is the problem. HOWEVER, I respect this man and I would take a single payer system rather than we what we have now. The problem also is that we are too willing to spend money on needless wars than people at home. Martin Luther King was talking about this 35 years ago during vietnam. Watch MLK's vietnam opposition speech it is very interesting.

[cameron6136]

The Insurance companies and Pharmaceutical companies will lose money if patients in the US receive improved care. We don't live in a Democracy. If we did we would have free healthcare.

[lifeline52002]

Move to Cuba I hear they have a very good Health Care down their , according to M. Moore.

Of couse I am sure you do not mine going to a Hospital that look like it my be out of the 1950's . Also Doctors that all work for the Goverment plus if you really need better care than you have to be a member of the Party and also one that is high up in the ranks. Other wise you get only the care for you to just mybe see a few more mouths to live. But if you Die no cost to the Goverment than.

[PsychoPunk1965]

Our best friend in the Middle East which is the State of Israel also have socialized medicine while rogue states like Iran and even communist North Koreas does NOT provide free medical care for their people. Cuba is not my model for anything because it is a communist state. I prefer democracies like Norway, Sweden, Spain, New Zealand, Canada, Israel, Great Britain, and other advanced capitalist nations which sees the wisdom in providing basic medical care to all...

[lifeline52002]

Like would u agree that if single payer health care is pass by Congress, would you agree that the President and Vice President and all Senators and Congressman /woman and all other Goverment employe have to also be on the same covarge. Because Senators Cobun of Ok, have an admentment that would do such a thing. Even Sen. Kennedy, Sen Dodd, as well as Sen Mikulski as long even President Obams said they should be. I hope that you support this I sure do.

[PsychoPunk1965]

I am so STRONGLY for Single Payer that it would include everyone from our elected politicians to the most ordinary of people. Politicians are certainly not better than the rest of the popular, but they should have equal access as should 100% of the population...

[lifeline52002]

Hey PsychoPunk1965 for once I we agree on something and that make me feel good I hope it make u feel good , but to leave you know I agree the Health Care esp were people need some health care need to be work on , it just that I do not like to see a complete Goverment take over because I still have a fear of what ti will be like and I know many others does as well

But it is good that we can agree on one thing,

So my God Be with you and if you have a Family as well. and my God Bless America.

[hume12345]

I can't believe americans think it's better to pay for healthcare or be insured to gain access to a hospital. you may as well legalise euthanasia for those too poor and too sick to qualify for healthcare.

[k1a1t1h1y1]

Jesus i hope i never get him for a doctor, what a piece of shit.

[rockytopfarm]

The founding fathers told us

"we gave you a republic" "if you can keep it"

The American people & government destroyed it!!  hell, people can't or are afraid to vote out the idiots in government and keep them in there!! Charles Schummer was correct 4 months ago about the spending, he stated "the american people don't care"!! he is correct!! if he was not correct, many of them in government would be gone! biggest tax hike bill passed the house last night! we are to blame also! GREED!

[godw1thin]

Fair enough.... Would you like to know my findings when I'm done?

[GiveWARaChance508]

the answer is that the costs of healthcare have gone up because of government interventions and regulations.

[godw1thin]

Ummmm..... there's absolutely no evidence to back up that statement whatsoever.

[BlueSkies360]

why don't you do your research

[GiveWARaChance508]

kucinich is a scumbag

[justonefirefly1]

Kucihich is brilliant and truly dedicated to Americans. He didn't spend Father's day with his whore in Argentina - does that make him a scumbag? GiveWARaChance - did you ever serve?

[GiveWARaChance508]

kucinich IS a scumbag. and i am not a republican so you can chime in with all of the bullshit about sanford you want, i do not care. and yes, for your information, i did serve four years on active duty as an infantryman with the 82nd Airborne Division. deplyed once to iraq and once to afghan spending a total of 19 months in those shitstain countries. i continue to serve with the army national guard with crash fire rescue.

[justonefirefly1]

Thank you for serving. So did my son. I am glad that you made it back.  Kucihich is a man of honor. He would never lie to get americans into a war for his ego. He really cares about all citizens. I have been watching him for a long time - (not from his state). Thumbs up for him.

[WillahG]

GiveWARaChance... are you serious with that user name. I'm pretty sure humanity has been at war as long as we can remember and it hasn't ever solved anything.

[GiveWARaChance508]

you're right. i guess we should have just stuck with slavery, allowed the nazis, facists, and imperial japanese to carve up the world. or maybe we should have allowed the spread of communism. oh wait, you probably would have liked that just fine. war is a horrible thing, but there are far greater evils.

[WellIAMScottish]

How many people did you kill?

[rockytopfarm]

If it becomes government run health care they state you will have a choice! what choice??? ask yourself, what "choice" has government giving me lately??? my choice was to "stop spending" my choice was to "stop bailouts" my choice was to not give "the fed more power". Now did government CARE about MY CHOICE?? no they did not!! now if government does run health care, do you really think you would have a choice???? hell, Paulson & Bearnake told the banks take the money or else!! RonPaul2012

[justonefirefly1]

What choice did you have when Bush and Cheney lied and sent our children to war? What choice did you have when Bush bailed out Wallstreet before he left office? If you have a choice with single payer health care and private (profit mongering) health insurance why can't you let people who need it have it? If our sons and daughters can die in Iraq why can't we have a say? And the DR. Gratzer is an expert in only in making profit. Think about it - why is he so against it? Follow the money

[rockytopfarm]

When i state (government) iam talking about both sides justonefirefly1. To many people depend on the government to save them! Take a good hard look or learn how the people in PA. Dutch country live, (the amish) they did not go our way, they do not drive cars, they use horse & buggy, they still use horse's and plows to plow there fields, they do not use electric or phones. If anyone gets a chance to see how they do a barn raising, amazing! they use what they have (each other) ! we got greedy!!!

[justonefirefly1]

So would it hurt you to be like the Amish and help each other like the Amish. Hey my son went to Iraq for you - how about a thank you or maybe some insurance when he comes back and finds his job outsourced to India

[rockytopfarm]

justonefirefly1: No it would not hurt to live like the amish, iam no city boy, i have a farm with cows & horses, all i said was, the amish stayed away from (greed) and did it there way , the "good ole day" way! but the American people & government got "real greedy"!! people say Bush seperated us, but Obama is doing a good job of keeping us seperated to! Thank you to your son!! i still have american flags in my front yard! my point is if the Amish can live without being greedy, why can't we!!!

[lifeline52002]

Well hate to say it but lets See the Democratics was in total control of the US Senate and House and guess what they voted to bailed out Wallstreet so President Bush did not do it by them self.

Plus just to bring u down to earth , President does not make laws or even pass a spending bill all he can do it signe one that Congress Pass. So put the blame were it should be at.

I do not think any doctors should make any profit but than we do not need Doctors either we have Lieing Obama .

[justonefirefly1]

And wht lie have you caught Obama in? Was it as bad as lying to go to war for oil and ego? Over 5000 lives lost, and that was just americans on top of the 3000 lost in the WT Center. Those deaths happened under the cheney bush watch. I don't care if the doctors make a profit we all should. I care that unregulated insurance companies can break and destroy this country. They tell the drs how much time they can spend on you and what they will pay. Get the picture yet

[lifeline52002]

President Obama is a lier and plus what he say about the Health Care he want to have will just do what you now blam the Health Insurance is doing.

Public Health Care will even be worst, but guess if you like it so much please get on to it other wise thoes of us want our owne Health Care insurance, let us be .

[justonefirefly1]

If public health care is soooo bad why do all the politicians including cheney bush and all their families have it? Dear dumbass lifeline, what could possibly be worse than no healthcare? Obama says you can keep your own healthcare insurance and let them rip you off all you want.  What are you bitching about? What about the people who served in the armed forces>they don't deserve anything - just to pay taxes and serve you?

[lifeline52002]

I am so sorry that some how u have ur eyes close, because the President , Vice President , members of Congress and people that work for the Goverment , health care is run and manage by Pvt Insurance companies, who are under contract to make sure ever one in Goverment get the very best care for a good price. This is not public but pvt.

Also I did not say anyting about members of the Arme Forces should not have healt Care because I have a Son in the service and he does get good health care.

[lifeline52002]

to finish what I was saying my Son is in the service and him and his family does get health care and should be but, his health care insurance by a contract Insurance Company that the goverment get.

One other thing have u listen to Dennis Kunicich were he thing that if you need a major surgery perform it is ok fot wait up to mybe 4 weeks or longer till a Public Health Care commissum deside if you surgery is needed., even a MIR, well if we had this I would have been dead in June.

[justonefirefly1]

i'D RATHER WAIT 4 WEEKS THAN NEVER BE ABLE TO GET IT. All the people for big insurnce compaines going unregulated and unfetterred in their greed are people that are stupid and for the time being have some insurance and their health and they may not stay so lucky and then will it be too late? What will you do then? They will take everything you have. AT the very least you have an honorable compassionate man in Dennis not some whore mongering repuklican.

[lifeline52002]

well since you and Dennis seem to not mine waiting for a surgry like the one I had , a bypass till some commission board in Washington deside if the surgry was needed than pleas by all mean go to Canada , but if you happen to die before they approve ur surgry well just think you will not cost the taxpayer one sent.

Ask if Dennis think this is good. also ask Dennis why he want a Fed Commission to say what surgry we should get.

At least with my insurance it was approve with in min .

[justonefirefly1]

Ha your insurance company will bag you in a heartbeat to make more money. You don't know much about Canada - it is bullshit and repuklican lies - We have people going to Canada for cheaper drugs and healthcare. you are such an idiot. You don't know what the insurance companies will do to you if they win this battle. they already said that they are raising prices 35% next year. Dennis can read, write and think - you quote old pasty white Beck and think it is the truth

[lifeline52002]

One if you like the Canada Health care why do you not go and live their.

Plus Dennis is can not think plus you do not think that under goverment Public Health Care that the Goverment will hold down cost.

Oh yes they can by telling Hospital they have to be non profit , medical doctors should work on a non profit, plus medical supply be non profit and nursing home as well, so it go on because Dennis hate any company making a profit.

Yes ask if Dennis will go to Canada to get health care.

[SuperMMfan]

Speaking as a canadian I think I'm more informed than you on our system as I have used it numerous times. The doctors are paid by the taxes of the ppl, we don't have ppl dying bcs they were denied medical procedures. Our nursing homes are fine & pharmaceutical companies in Canada are making a profit not an obscene one at the expense of the ppl though. That is where it is different.

[Yoseman1]

How could you want it?

Tell me this, when you mail a letter or package, do you use FedEx/UPS or the Post Office? How expensive do you think it would be if the USPS didn't exsist?

[lifeline52002]

I am sorry to tell you but one you will only received the basic care for health and plus the goverment will ration the care , base on if the person is a certin age. The Goverment have to controll the cost even the President Obama keep saying

we have to control the cost of health care , and some people will be cover and some will just get the basic care, and nothing else. Why do you think they put in their about talking to your doctor about end of life, and the Goverment will pay for it.

[vinnym24]

I like Dennis, I donated to him, but he is going the opposite direction that he should. The costs have been raised by government intervention, government subsidy, and regulation. The answer is not more of the same.

[womblefree]

I really dont understand what some of the americans are afraid of here, it seems like they assume like Dennis kucinich says about covering every soldier is something analigous to cultural Marxism.

Is Canada a communist country,"No" are other countrys around the world marxist because they have similar systems "No", I can only assume that alot of americans cant let go of the cold war while many who were soldiers in that cold war die in pain including those who fought in korea and vietnam,

[cindiloohoo]

I loved watching how the man in the background just barely contained his laughter as Kucinich schooled that arrogant pissant!

[cindiloohoo]

At 1:36 he almost loses it. Great facial expressions!

[BlueSkies360]

Where in the Constitution it is written that Kucinich can decide what health insurer we should use. Do you have the answer? Oh, you don't? Then I will answer for you: NOWHERE. Government, please get out of my life. I don't want YOUR care. 50% of the market already belongs to gov and that is why the prices ar UP!. In free market prices go down, like for plastic surgeries, lasic, etc. The last thing we need is MORE government.. ;P

[Iregretmostofmyposts]

Yeah, I don't get this Kucinich/Paul idea...

[alby711]

i used to like Kucinich because he always talked about the Constitution during the debates. But he seems more and more just like the "progressives" in both parties.

[vinnym24]

I gave him money during his run but I am really surprised that he can't see the big picture here, He has a child's view of economics when it comes to health care.

[AlNouveau]

No offense, but you don't understand the concept at all. You want to pay for your own health insurance knock yourself out, you can, so its a non-issue. Your also ignoring a few important facts. Like that health insurance costs increase the cost of everything manufactured in the U.S., simply make it harder to be competitive. Also almost 50 million of your fellow citizens dont have health insurance at all. Plus you're just flat out wrong about the government driving prices up.

[BlueSkies360]

No offense but it is YOU who doesn't understand the issue. You are fooling yourself if you think that gov can do it better than free market. Gov will drive the insurances out of business and push subquality care on everyone. I don't want to wait in line, give bribes to doctors to perform surgeries, not getting the best care and being rationed off when I get old.

[AlNouveau]

They already do it for less, it's called medicare. The rest of the industrialized world has it and they all live longer than we do. If you can come up with sore real statistics we can discuss pro and con but all you've posted so far is paranoid right wing talking points. It's hard to understand unless you work for a health insurance company.

[BlueSkies360]

No they don't do it for less. Medicare is a nightmare. It is total price control by the gov. And with all that it is BROKE. Healthcare in other countries: /watch?v=_vNQFa_4S80

We would live even longer if we were not like Michale Moore :P or you, commie piece of garbage.

[AlNouveau]

Guess again Bozo, they do it for less than private insurance companies every day. They don't need to advertise, they don't need to pay dividends or increase their stock price. They just provide heath care services for the people enrolled. And before you take off about how bad national health care is elsewhere, they all live longer than us and have lower infant mortality rates than we do. And no need to thank me for the education.

[BlueSkies360]

No, YOU guess again Bozo. Medicare prices are fixed by the government. And people in other countries live longer because of better lifestyles. They don't eat double and triple sized hamburgers. Educate yourself.

[justonefirefly1]

That is not true about Canada - you lie big time!!!! "In North America, Canada rates as the country with the fairest mechanism for health system finance ranked at 17-19, while the United States is at 54-55. Cuba is the highest among Latin American and Caribbean nations at 23-25. You can get better health care in Cuba. That is from the WHO statistics

[justonefirefly1]

Rush, get off your meds, every one is not a communist just because they are better informed than you. Healthcare insurance is a nightmare. Some secretary with a ged lets you know if you can have those tests or surgery - not real practicing doctors. Why are you so against children and the elderly having healthcare? They can't work for it. If there is a nightmare it is the double digit (35% increase a year) by insurance companies.

[BlueSkies360]

but we don't need government solutions, we need market solutions, because we need efficiencies and customer satisfaction, not longer lines, rationing and forced confiscation of wealth. Currently insurance companies can't compete across the state lines and medicare payments are government fixed. We need to let the insurance companies compete. There are about 5000 of them. How many do we chose from? 3-4? Prices would go down like on plasma TVs and mobile phones, like for LASIK or cosmetic surgery

[justonefirefly1]

BlueSkies360 - Did you know that originally health insurance was nonprofit? Greed and no regulation has placed us in 54th place in the world standing. Do we need market solutions? Didn't we just bailout that damn Wall street? Excuse me, banking CEO idiots made some very stupid decisions that almost took our country down? Insurance thieves (companies) have been around longer that plasma TV's - do you see them going down? The increase they project this year is 35% without any explanation.

[BlueSkies360]

justonefirefly: it wasnt the private industry that caused the meltdown, it was FED who lowered the borrowing rates to 0 and gov. policies that mandated affirmative action subprime mortages, with penalties if not provided. More than 50% of all mortgages belong to Fannie Mae (a gov company that is now broke). 50% of medical care is already in gov. hands. Medicare is broke too. It has trillions of unfunded liabilities. Do some research before you sing praises to more government power.

[justonefirefly1]

BlueSkies - Fannie Mae was not a gov. company when they pulled their bull shit:

The Federal National Mortgage Association (FNMA) (NYSE: FNM), commonly known as Fannie Mae, is a stockholder-owned corporation chartered by Congress in 1968 as a government-sponsored enterprise (GSE), ... The corporation's purpose is to purchase and securitize mortgages in order to ensure that funds are consistently available to the institutions that lend money to home buyers - A stockholder owned - did you get that

[BlueSkies360]

justonefirefly1: oh, yes they are a gov entity. Gov controlled and operated. Like GM, BOA and Citibank now. Gov. backed all the junk up with taxpayers money. And is still continuing to do so. FNM gets unlimited funds from the taxpayer.

[doobie7777]

BlueSkies, you strike me as a right-wing lunatic.

[doobie7777]

I find it ironic that the least informed individual has the audacity to suggest to others to "do more research."

[BlueSkies360]

dobbie: I looked at your page.. you are afraid of your own shadow. You don't stand behind your words because you know they are ridiculous. You are embarassment to others. LOL another Brittney Spears fan...

[doobie7777]

(sigh)

BlueSkies, I never understood the concept of mind-bogglingly stupid until I read your comments. Government DEREGULATION allowed this mess to occur... to suggest we need less government oversight/ "power" is ludicrous. Please, kill yourself.

[doobie7777]

Yes... "indipendent"...

[950horsepower]

When someone is called to testify like this, is it considered appropriate to lie like hell?

When they had Bill Gates, he never answered a straight question. He never even combed his hair. So what is the point?

[000stryke3000]

☆☆☆☆☆

[kevinpaulharper]

Dennis is a true Warrior of the people. I wish he was my congressman.

[bbburton]

Then move to his district. Better yet, move to Canada.

[alfredoconsalsa]

nice

[bbburton]

Just say no to gov sponsored health care. Look how well gov sponsored Amtrak has worked out. I don't want any gov interference in my health.

[kevinpaulharper]

no your right, I much rather have a corporation who's legally obligated to maximize profits for its share holders, interfere with my health.

[bbburton]

Only if you let them. Get real. I'd rather deal with an insurance company then have the gov mandate anything. But it obvious you'd roll over and let the gov stick it to you then take responsibility for your own life. Real smart.

[kevinpaulharper]

take responsibility for my own life? Let me ask you this, WHY get health insurance... so that if something happens, you are covered, you wont have to file for bankruptcy right? Then why is it that 75% of the 1.8 million Americans who filed for bankruptcy last year, HAD insurance when they got sick? You think all this people just not very responsible people? We are getting ripped off! We already pay 4k per ca pita of TAX MONEY on HC, plus 2.7k via private insurance. France pays 3k in total

[bbburton]

Yes, take responsibility for your own life. Let me ask you this; why do you think health insurance is so expensive? It's because the gov started mandating coverage through employers. This whole issue is about gov interference in health insurance that drives the cost of health care up. Who do you think will pay for health care if the gov takes over? Do you really think it will be free or cheap? Yes, we are getting ripped off, but it's by the gov.

[kevinpaulharper]

It is cheaper to go with a single payer plan then it is to go with private insurance. 30% of every dollar in the for profit system goes to "administrative cost" (Commercials, CEO salaries ext) only 2% is used for admin cost in medicare. Please watch PBS documentary named "Sick around the world" to see what HC is like around the world. its free to watch just google it. I am sure we can get you to be a supporter of single payer ones you understand it = )

[bbburton]

I will never support the gov interfering in my health care decisions. I don't like the intrusion, and I resent that I would have to pay for someone else to see a doctor or any other health care provider. It's not a matter of what is cheaper, it's a matter of the gov forcing me to do something I should not have to do, pay for someone else who will not or cannot provide for on their own care. However, I am all for supporting through charitable contributions to assist those in need.

[kevinpaulharper]

Well then I guess you shout stop paying taxes, right no our government spends 4k per person on health care from your tax money. We should also make the fire department, education and police charitable. Your fear of what you consider "socialism" is blinding you from whats actually happening.

hopefully one day you will understand your getting ripped off. and then you can join us and fight for equality, universal health care for all =-)

[bbburton]

You're right, I am getting ripped off, but it is by the gov, not some corp. At least with a corp I can choose not to buy or otherwise support any corp, but I am forced under penalty of loss of freedom and liberty by the gov to pay taxes that I would not otherwise give freely. Everyone makes a big deal about schools, police and fire depts. That is a red herring. Those are all supported by local not fed taxes. At the local level the people have greater control over those costs. Big difference.

[AlNouveau]

You resent paying for someone else? Gee, does the U.S. government contact you every time they want to spend money? Do they ask for you to donate for the wars or get permission to spend money on farm subsidies? I think you object to less fortunate people having health insurance like you do, but saying you directly pay for it is some major BS, no offense. Single payer would reduce the coast of manufacturing here and make up more competitive. How's that for a reason to reconsider?

[bbburton]

How disingenuous can you get. Your altruism as a cover for theft does not make it any better. In fact, it makes a mockery of the Constitution. People like you have no sense of what is right or wrong. Instead you use 'the less fortunate' as a weapon against those who actually work and support themselves. That's the real BS, no offense. Your argument is hollow at best. There is nothing competitive about a 'single payer' plan. The idea that it would reduce costs is absurd.

[AlNouveau]

Im not sure how providing health care for people that dont have it is theft but I do love phony indignation of compassionate conservatives. And please take yourself off the pedestal, lots of people work hard and have full time jobs that dont have health insurance. You tell me Einstein, what child doesnt deserve health care? What ethnic group doesnt deserve health care? What religion tells you not to cure the sick? Ill make it easy for you, everybody deserves access to health care.

[bbburton]

If that's the way you feel, fine, just you pay for it. Better yet, Mother Teresa, why not ask god to do it for you? You're real long at pointing out who you believe is deserving, but short on how to pay for it. Your understanding of the 'problem' of health care is about as deep as a dried up lake bed and just as shallow. You don't even bother to ask the simple question, like why is health care beyond the reach of average people? And don't give me that crap about ruthless insurance companies.

[justonefirefly1]

Did you enjoy paying for Cheney's family to build more new homes in America and overseas - to vacation IN?????????

[bbburton]

And do you enjoy running joy juice down fairy tail lane????????????

[TJLawrence]

Dennis owned him :)