Are these drills based on the Fairburn and Skyes methods of point shooting, I can't say that I am familar with it but from what I've seen in pictures they seem to be holding the pistol in a similar manner.
Hi schizoidboy. They are indeed part of the Fairbairn/Sykes method. - good spot. The drills seem slow because the shooter, although having been involved in competition and LEO shooting all his adult life, was relatively new to this idea of pistol use. He is learning cognitively, a method of shooting which we are able to achieve when suffering from the emotional and biochemical effects of fear.
This can be made into an advantage when the shooter realises that the grip tends to place the weapon on or around the shooters centreline. Thus, rather than use the sights directly, the whole body can be directed, a bit like the turret on a tank, towards the threat.
I love how everyone here thinks they know what they are talking about. Probably think they know from playing an FPS or something. If you're moving back, you're moving back. Anyone can get the jump on you.
Briefly, the pistol is held in the positions seen because there is a convulsive tightening of the sceletal muscles when feeling severe stress. This causes a tight grip on the gun which often causes the arm to bend uncontrollably as the biceps and forearm muscles tighten.
I understand your concerns BSPX4, and if the distance is such that I can move back to escape, I will. However, a pistol is usually used within fighting distance and the bg should be able to close me down really quick in that distance. I am not going to try to run backwards versus someone running at me. A fight is a fight, it's just that there's a gun in this one - it could be a knife which is extremely efficient within the same distance.
Sorry, I'm new to handguns... Can you explain why he moves toward the threat when engaging? If this is for self defense, why doesn't he move away from the enemy?
The hardest thing to teach someone is to close on a threat if in close quarters. Unfortunately, there usually is no other viable option. Moving back is perceived as weakness and can fuel the bad guy. Moving forward can mess up his ability to aim properly. Also, if you run out of ammo or the weapon jams, you should be close enough to hit him
usmcredline, you comment is a little cryptic I'm sorry. The drill is one we use very early on to get people shooting and moving quickly. The shooter is closing down on the threat and making hits. It has purely self defence purposes.
dekode29 - I woulod to if a shotgun were available.
This was probably a regular pistol training in the 1960 or 1970.....I think there some "little" differences in modern training .....:)
seljanche 1 year ago
Are these drills based on the Fairburn and Skyes methods of point shooting, I can't say that I am familar with it but from what I've seen in pictures they seem to be holding the pistol in a similar manner.
schizoidboy 2 years ago
Hi schizoidboy. They are indeed part of the Fairbairn/Sykes method. - good spot. The drills seem slow because the shooter, although having been involved in competition and LEO shooting all his adult life, was relatively new to this idea of pistol use. He is learning cognitively, a method of shooting which we are able to achieve when suffering from the emotional and biochemical effects of fear.
Coops387 2 years ago
This can be made into an advantage when the shooter realises that the grip tends to place the weapon on or around the shooters centreline. Thus, rather than use the sights directly, the whole body can be directed, a bit like the turret on a tank, towards the threat.
Coops387 2 years ago
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Thanks for your reply.
schizoidboy 2 years ago
I love how everyone here thinks they know what they are talking about. Probably think they know from playing an FPS or something. If you're moving back, you're moving back. Anyone can get the jump on you.
SySt3m 2 years ago
Briefly, the pistol is held in the positions seen because there is a convulsive tightening of the sceletal muscles when feeling severe stress. This causes a tight grip on the gun which often causes the arm to bend uncontrollably as the biceps and forearm muscles tighten.
Coops387 2 years ago
I understand your concerns BSPX4, and if the distance is such that I can move back to escape, I will. However, a pistol is usually used within fighting distance and the bg should be able to close me down really quick in that distance. I am not going to try to run backwards versus someone running at me. A fight is a fight, it's just that there's a gun in this one - it could be a knife which is extremely efficient within the same distance.
Coops387 3 years ago
Moving towards your enemy is a STUPID thing to do. It only allows him to snatch the weapon from your hand and use it on you.
You move BACK and LATERAL as you fire. Maintain distance between you and the target.
BerettaStormPX4 3 years ago
Sorry, I'm new to handguns... Can you explain why he moves toward the threat when engaging? If this is for self defense, why doesn't he move away from the enemy?
ajWLMk2o 3 years ago
The hardest thing to teach someone is to close on a threat if in close quarters. Unfortunately, there usually is no other viable option. Moving back is perceived as weakness and can fuel the bad guy. Moving forward can mess up his ability to aim properly. Also, if you run out of ammo or the weapon jams, you should be close enough to hit him
Coops387 3 years ago
usmcredline, you comment is a little cryptic I'm sorry. The drill is one we use very early on to get people shooting and moving quickly. The shooter is closing down on the threat and making hits. It has purely self defence purposes.
dekode29 - I woulod to if a shotgun were available.
Coops387 3 years ago
what in God's name was that? I hope noone depends upon you to save their life by taking someone elses.
usmcredline 3 years ago
LAME! I'll 12 gauge em all!
dekode29 4 years ago