WOW! You guys and your ad hominem attacks on creationists look like a bunch of 8 year olds and make the scientific community look even worse than it already appears. Grow Up!
This is crazy. The guy is using scientific methods to find his conclusions and still people come here and play him!?! Give him credit and and if you believe you are right simply make a video and explain in detail, as he does, refuting all his claims. Snuff said. Actions are loader than goofy comments.
"Scientific methods"? WHERE? Is it scientific to take a rock to a MEDICAL FACILITY? Is it scientific to deny all other independent examination? Is it scientific to produce a gibberish video with babblings that sound good to morons, but to any scientist doesn't make sense whatsoever?
A known counterfeiter (Alvis Delk) and murderer (James Bishop) "find" this track, loose, and sell it to known con artist with fake schools and fake PhDs Carl Baugh for $250?
lol none of the evolosers watched the video. They're all commenting on whether the tracks at the river belong to dinosaurs or humans when this vid is about wehter or not a specific track that is admitted by everyone to be a human track, is a forgery or not
Carl Baugh of the Creation Museum refuses to allow independent analysis of the Delk Track nor of the 80+ foot prints he claims to have found in Cretaceous rock. Whether it be justified or not, he has a dubious reputation for falsehoods. There are indeed claims that anomolies with the Delk Track exist, besides the fact he won't properly support his assertions or allow analysis from others. He hasn't written any papers on it either. Assertions without evidence requires no further rebuttal.
"For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse."
I just spent 30 minuts reading allt these arguments. Rockethead7 and storma22 rocks! My own personal belief is, sad to say, yes, you ppl who actualky believe this. Is morons. Nothing personal. Just a fact.
Whats the point here? To prove that mankind is a couple of 100 milion years olderthan first thiugh, or that the earth is just 6000 years old? I wouldnt say that all atheists are fools, but i would say that some christians are..
Actually no, they're scientifically shown to be elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks-- made by dinosaurs that at times impressed their metatarsi as they walked.
Nothing but creationist wishful thinking and stupidity.
The "man tracks" in the riverbed are forms of elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks-- made by dinosaurs that at times impressed their metatarsi as they walked. When digit impressions of such tracks are subdued by mud-collapse, erosion, infilling, or a combination of factors, the remaining metatarsal portions often superficially resemble human footprints. However, when well cleaned such tracks show definite indications of tridactyl, dinosaurian digit patterns. (Kuban, 1986a, 1986b).
The "man tracks" in the riverbed are forms of elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks-- made by dinosaurs that at times impressed their metatarsi as they walked. When digit impressions of such tracks are subdued by mud-collapse, erosion, infilling, or a combination of factors, the remaining metatarsal portions often superficially resemble human footprints. However, when well cleaned such tracks show definite indications of tridactyl, dinosaurian digit patterns. (Kuban, 1986a, 1986b).
@GnosticHumanist Intelligence is needed to create software code or assemble a computer! FAR MORE intelligence is needed for the assemblance of the first Cell and thereby DNA. A DNA code is far more complex in design than All the Worlds Softwares COMBINED!! Therefore we can deduce Intelligent DESIGN! Homochirality and hydrolysis would prevent life from ever starting! It is chemically and mathematically impossible for a single protein to form by chance!
@Gnosti WRONG!! These experiments are the furthest things from undirected natural processes, scientists in controlled laboratories, using pre existing information and copying and borrow information, is not natural processes even with time! Not to mention they use templates and synthesizing machines to get there reactions going! These experiments are not geochemical relevant reactions!! You are just another gullible indoctrinated atheist!
The "man tracks" in the riverbed are forms of elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks-- made by dinosaurs that at times impressed their metatarsi as they walked. When digit impressions of such tracks are subdued by mud-collapse, erosion, infilling, or a combination of factors, the remaining metatarsal portions often superficially resemble human footprints. However, when well cleaned such tracks show definite indications of tridactyl, dinosaurian digit patterns. (Kuban, 1986a, 1986b).
@GnosticHumanist You fail. They are clearly human tracks. Anyone with two working eyeballs can count 5 human toes clear as day. The tracks you speak of do not show off clear human digits. You can even see how the big toe would have made an indent in the mud, which no metatarsal dinosaur tracks have (unless dinos had human toes). The prints were examined with a high amount of scrutiny and you're in denial.
You can think what you buddy, ithe scientific analysis by actual paleontologists with peer-reviewed papers show these are clearly " forms of elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks-- made by dinosaurs that at times impressed their metatarsi as they walked".
If it makes you feel better lying to yourself to falsely back up your Bronze age superstition, then fine, go ahead.
@GnosticHumanist You have no proof to back up these claims. And what "peer-reviewed papers" do you speak of? You evos just sweep these finds under the rug and hope people still believe in your lie. Metatarsal dinosaur tracks don't form human digits and the precise human foot structure, they form what may look like a human foot print at first glance. You can lead an evo to evidence, but you can't make them think.
Yeah, I am Alvis Delk, and I can't believe how many people do NOT believe my track is real! These evolutwits keep bringing up that I found it with my convicted murderer friend, James Bishop. And, they bring up the fact that I sold it to Carl Baugh, who runs fake diploma mill schools out of Costa Rica with no faculty or staff, and just a PO box. But, it's REAL. Carl Baugh himself got a PhD from his own school, that makes it real. Evotwits think that I carved this track. Sigh.
I'm so tired of evoidiots thinking I carved this track, just because there are photos of me with this track while it was still snow white (as if it was just plaster or something), and because Carl Baugh won't let anyone examine it. And, no, it's NOT brown and bubbly now due to acid wash!
Lots of evotwits ask why I sold this track for $250 to Carl Baugh, instead of having it authenticated in a university, which would make it worth MILLIONS if real.
- Alvis Delk (busted for, and self-confessed forger of old artifacts like indian arrowheads) and his friend James Bishop (convicted murderer) claim to "find" this track LOOSE (???!!!!) in the rocks by a riverbed.
- Loose tracks generally aren't accepted as valid evidence because they could be forgeries, and can't be authenticated in situ, but, ok, let's give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
@rockethead7 1. Ad hom means nothing when it comes to the authenticity of evidence. Darwin was a racist who refers to Africans as "savages" and puts them on the same level as apes in his "Origin of Species", but does that immediately discredit his science? No, it doesn't. Attacking Delk and Bishop means nothing when it comes to the authenticity of the track. Your fail count: 1
@rockethead7 2. No museum or university would take this fossil. Are you kidding me? They have an agenda, to push this evolution lie into the public mind for as long as they can. You also make a bunch of bold assertions about the fossil and the people investigating it without providing any evidence or references. Sorry, but we creationists are not dumb enough to except everything at face value like evolutionists. Your fail count: 2
- Carl Baugh has a long reputation for these man-tracks. Each time he finds one, it's demonstrated as a fake, but the next time, he says THIS one is real.
- Carl Baugh won't let anyone examine this one.
- Carl Baugh claims a number of PhDs. All are from diploma mills. At least one is from his own school, which doesn't have any buildings, any faculty, and is registered in Central America. The website has "diploma samples" on its home page. Send him $2000, get a PhD.
@rockethead7 3. CAT scans are often used on fossils...not quite sure what you're smoking. Just do a quick google search to see that many fossils have been authenticated with CAT scans. Both the human and dinosaur track look completely legit, maybe it's just your evo eyes which have trained you to reject truth. Your fail count: 3
Even IF you believe that a counterfeiter and convicted murderer found this track, and then sold it to a conster who runs diploma mill schools and has a checkered past with many fake prints, you still believe it's real, how do you come to terms with they found it "LOOSE"? How would you know it wasn't one of the many fakes that were sold to tourists in Paluxy from years past, and merely discarded?
Photos of Delk with this track when it was WHITE AS SNOW. Case closed.
@rockethead7 More ad hom and baseless assertions, am I suppose to be impressed? Anyway, you did not cite anything. That would require providing links, references to articles, etc. A quick google search of the fossil shows that it was never "snow white" like you claim. I do find your raging quite amusing though so feel free to make another response. Your fail count: 5
No, it's NOT an ad hominem attack to point out that Delk was a known counterfeiter of artifacts, or that Carl Baugh has fake PhDs out of fake schools. This goes toward their credibility, which is all we CAN rely on for this track, since they refuse to allow independent analysis.
I *have* photos of this track when it was snow white before Delk/Baugh acid washed it. Case fucking closed.
Since we can't post links in comments, I sent you a private message with a link to one of the photos from when this track was snow white... and I included before and after... as well as what the dino track SHOULD look like if it was real (claw marks, boney digitization, narrow heel, etc.).
@rockethead7 LOL! Yeah, I sent you a response PM which completely stomped you (which I can share with anyone else if they're interested). Your fail count: 9000+
Yes, your response said that the photo of Delk with this carving when it was snow white is becuase it was "just a casting" of the real track.
HA, yeah, right. Nice try. No, it's certainly NOT because those were the photos of him showing this track around before he acid-washed it. Oh, and strange that this "casting" doesn't have the bubbling that the "real" track has. Why is that? Because it's NOT a casting. It's the "real" track before acid wash.
@rockethead7 Yeah, at this point I believe this debate is over. I sent you an article which clearly states that the pic you sent me was a cast, and the two look identical except for the fact that one's a cast and one's the real deal. On top of that your ad hom is getting progressively less amusing so it's not even fun now. You got spanked, deal with it.
If you believe idiocy, you're an idiot. How DARE you project idioc onto others for doubting this crap?
I mean, how COULD anyone tell the difference between a counterfeit and a real one, if not for independent verification (which they will not allow)? So, what's the correct answer in your mind? ANYONE who makes a fancy sounding video and posts it on youtube is telling the truth, and it's not counterfeit?
Why WON'T they allow independent verification? Conspiracy? Spare me.
- I forgot to mention (this is out of order), that some time after Delk was showing this track around when it was snow white, and when he showed it to Carl Baugh, suddenly now this track is dark brown, and has flaking and bubbling.
- If you carved a track in plaster or white stone, and you wanted it to look aged, you could acid-wash it, and this would age it and turn it brown. But, it causes flaking and bubbling also when you do this. Anything sound familiar?
Spare me your ridiculous "DUR HUR" idiocy. Only a complete moron (which apparently you are) could possibly believe this insane story of Alvis Delk and his murder friend James Bishop, and con-man Carl Baugh.
See, but like the creatard that you are... you don't actually INVESTIGATE anything you agree with. You take it all on blind faith (as your pathetic brain has been programmed to do). And, like the fucking moron you are, now you believe this clownish carving is "real"!
@rockethead7 4. Your ad hom slinging and rage typing without providing any actual evidence indicates that this find really got you scared and butt hurt. Even if the track was fake (which at this point does not seem to be the case) there is an abundance of evidence against darwinian/macro evolution. Heck, even an ounce of rational thought can completely debunk the theory...I expect you to be in Sunday school bright and early Sunday morning young man. Your fail count: 4
Your delusion is amazing. Under the circumstances that this "track" went through, you'd be an IDIOT to believe any of the ridiculous story. You only believe it because it supports your own viewpoint. If I posted a fancy video of some "proof" AGAINST your viewpoint, under the 100% identical circumstances (found by a murderer and a counterfeiter, won't allow anyone to examine it, found LOOSE so nobody can confirm origin), you'd laugh me out the door. Oh, no, but not THIS!!??
You're saying that there's nothing wrong with the carving? Perhaps you overlooked that I REPEATEDLY cited the photos of this track when it was SNOW WHITE (before Alvis Delk or Carl Baugh acidwashed). Yeah, THAT is pretty fucking concrete evidence that it's a new carving, you numbnut idiot.
You think the track LOOKS authentic? Your expertise/training was from where? Barney the dino's clown college? They look all wrong. Delk's own daughter is an expert and doesn't belief him.
And, on top of all of that... the story itself just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Keep believing in your conspiracy theory if you want. But, many have offered to examine/authenticate this track.
Oh, and by the way, it's not an "ad hominem" attack to point out that Baugh won't allow this track to be examined (because the ones he submitted in the past were proven fakes). And it's not "ad hominem" to point out that Delk is a self-confessed counterfeiter of artifacts.
And, it's not "ad hominem" to point out how just plainly ridiculous the entire story is:
Delk claimed in interviews to know the rarity and special nature of this "find" - yet, he sold it for $250? Right. If you had the world's largest diamond, would you sell it for $250?
And, he took it to Carl Baugh, a known conster who runs fake schools and has a checkered past with many proven fakes of these tracks? Even if you thought he was innocent, you wouldn't take it to Baugh.
I hope you read ALL of the postings I made. I know it's past your brain's 5 word capacity, but try really hard.
What is it about this crap that has creatards so stopped in the tracks, and they fall for con-jobs like this one, hook line and sinker? I mean, substitute "diamond the size of a car sold for $250 by known forger and convicted murderer, but they say it's a real diamond" in place of "man/dino track by Delk/Bishop" and NOBODY believes the diamond is real.
@GnosticHumanist "trained paleontologists whose reports have been peer reviewed."
translation to English:
"like-minded blind people who endorse philosophical paradigms that are completely absurd - such as the idea evolution can account for the diversity of life on the planet - patting each other on the back."
But do continue to make a fool of yourself. I personally know someone involved in the Paluxy tracks and he was extremely resistant to the idea at first. What would you suggest I ask him?
No, they do NOT know the difference. I mean, these creatards are people who look at the BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of vigorously documented and cross-verified fossils in science, and discard those. Instead, they believe in this small handful of ridiculous forgeries (like this one), never allowed to be examined, "found" by convicted murderers/ counterfeiters, and sold for $250. The real irony is that this forgery makes headlines at all (because it's ALL they have).
Let me get this straight... I AGREE with you, and yet you fucking sit there and tell ME that I don't understand science?? JESUS FUCKING GODDAMNED IMAGINARY CHRIST!!! The world has gone fucking stupid.
@GnosticHumanist Yeah rockethead sent me a message with his same blabbering and cursing and so forth - its shows a great lack in respect and character...
Perhaps you're asking for some imagination, but to me Kuban's photos of metatarsal tracks are a far cry from the video's print. The metatarsal-phalangeal joint and heel are both indented more than the rest of the print (as a human's would be), and there is no evidence of drag in the toes themselves. The proportions are perfect. What dinosaur did you have in mind that has five toes that close together?
@GnosticHumanist Go ahead and quote Kuban all you want, just stick your head in the sand and shout " IT CAN'T BE HUMAN FOOTPRINTS ! "
I am so SICK of evo's denying and searching endlessly to prove their theory, anyone can copy / paste anything. Do you have an original thought or does mommy have to give you permission to do that. UNBEIVEABLE !
Great video Ian, keep up the good work and God bless
It's called SCIENCE; critically and objectively analyzing a situation, not trying to find something that you can twist to try and fit into the paradigm of religious superstition like creationism.
@GnosticHumanist hahahahahahaha, yes ! copy / paste anything you can to dispute the obvious HUMAN footprints in the Paluxy, this is so funny ! Do you really think that your puny little brain making all of the puny little comments made here are going to refute ANYTHING ! hahahahahaha I can't believe it ! Say it isn't so gnustichumnoid !
Again..No one will take you serious when you have a potty mouth. No one wins the lottery 30 times in a row and complex life forms don't come from soup. Order requires intelligence. You must have intelligence first for DNA or a computer program. If anyone is insane it's the Macro-evolutionists. They use circular reasoning and carbon dating which has proven to be inaccurate. They try to force belief on people, they are religious. It takes much faith to believe humans came from soup. Ron Paul 2012
Beyond that, you're nothing but a moron who believes ANY claptrap put out by creationist nitwits, and you know NOTHING about science. Remember how this whole thing started: THIS VIDEO which you called "real science" about a murderer and known counterfeiter who forged this track and sold it to a con man who made an idiotic gibberish video. (And you won't comment on why there are photos of Delk with this carving before it was finished.)
Do you never wonder why NONE of the Carl Baugh tracks (he has several) have EVER been submitted for review? (Because he knows they WON'T hold up under real scientific scrutiny.) Do you ever wonder why Carl Baugh went to Costa Rica and "found" hundreds more of these tracks on his first attempt (haha), and yet nobody can ever verify this claim? Do you ever wonder WHY the ONLY PERSON ON EARTH who"found" the supposed 20,000 Ica stones won't reveal them, and nobody else has EVER found ONE?
Anyway, go ahead and blame my "potty mouth" if you wish, fuckpig. But, I'm done with your fucking idiotic ass. I refuse to respond any further to a pig molesting piece of shit like you who keeps changing topics instead of addressing things point by point (which is all a creationist retard like you CAN do). You REFUSE to explain why there are photos of this "real science" (your words) Delk track, of Alvis Delk when this track was perfect 100% snow white (before he applied acid wash).
Not to mention, fuckpig asshole, nobody uses carbon dating to measure the age of anything remotely like this, nor from the dinosaur age at all. Get your fucking idiotic ass lies straight at least. I realize you're nothing but a regurgitator of lies you find from your only source of information (creationtard idiot websites), but at least you should fucking UNDERSTAND the lies you tell. Carbon dating DOES NOT FUCKING WORK on this stuff, and nobody ever claimed that it does.
Thanks Carl Baugh for revealing the truth to the world. The ancient Peruvians drew many pictures of humans living with dinosaurs. They used to be called dragons until recent times. Order requires intelligence. Human beings aren't an accident that derived from pre-mordial soup. You are all beautiful and just as complex as the Universe it self. God created you and loves you.
And, you avoid the fact that there are pictures of Alvis Delk with this very track before it was colored brown. He was still working on the carving and hadn't yet dipped it in acid to give it the brown color and to make it looked aged. But, of course, YOU will never accept that. Your brain is too far flushed down the toilet to EVER see reality. In one ear, out the other, move on to a new topic. That is the creationist way. That is EXACTLY what you did, and will always do.
Finally some real science.. not fake evolution theory. Researchers always look to the Bible.The Bible stands the tests of time. There is a God, He created all things, man lived with dinosaurs, there was a world wide flood, Mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia, Jesus came to earth and died for our sins. Science disproved macro-evolution with the fruit flies when they mutated the flies only to find that the DNA is so complex it has a backup code and the flies were normal again 2-3 generations later.
Alvis Delk (known counterfeiter) and James Bishop (convicted murderer) "find" this track LOOSE among rocks? If real, it would be worth millions on museum circuits. But, no, he sells it for $250 to Carl Baugh (known con man with fake PhDs from his own fake schools he runs). They take track to a HOSPITAL to be analyzed in a CT machine? Won't let anyone analyze it. Make a YouTube idiot video full of gibberish that sounds good to morons. THIS is "real" science?
@rockethead7 I have been to Carl Baugh's museum in Texas. They have lots of evidence supporting this. God loves you very much. If you look you will find the truth. God bless you. Written thousands of years ago: Job 40:17-18 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones [are] like bars of iron. The Inca stones are even more evidence supporting this. I will go with the evidence instead of some young theory.
Jesus fucking goddamned imaginary christ! You're SERIOUS about that conman Carl Baugh and his ridiculous BS museum full of faked evidence? And you ramble about the 20,000 Ica stones? (Not "Inca" by the way.) ONE MAN supposedly finds 20,000 stones in an undisclosed cave location, which he releases one at a time to the public, EACH ONE ever examined shown as a fake! THAT is your evidence?
You wouldn't fucking know the difference between "real science" and throwing darts at a wall.
@rocket - Most athiests I debate get so frustrated when people won't believe their FRAUD of Macro-evolution... they often resort to Potty Mouth syndrome like yourself. No one will take you serious when you have a potty mouth. No one wins the lottery 7 times in a row, but the odds are better than life creating itself from billion year old soup. Order requires intelligence. You must have intelligence first for DNA or a computer program. You may never have been to the museum, but I have.
The "potty mouth" is due to the extraordinary stupidity and denial I (we) see when confronted by someone as far gone wacko as you are. It's not swearing AT you, it's swearing BECAUSE OF you.
I know you're too far gone to ever reason with, so I won't try. Anyone who believes that 100% of academy biologists, and 99.99% of biologists world wide, are involved in a major "fraud" (as you put it) is far too insane for reason. Let alone the fact that you can look at the evidence yourself.
So, keep on believing propaganda, never read a real science journal, and keep on thinking that the entire scientific community worldwide is involved in a major conspiracy against YOU. Paranoid fucking delusional.
Meanwhile, if you want to rely on "evidence" from counterfeiter (Alvis Delk), and his murderer friend (James Bishop), and known conman (Carl Baugh)... be my fucking guest. If you can call that claptrap "real science" (YOUR WORDS), you're fucking dumber than I can imagine.
Also, you HAVE seen the photos of Alvis Delk with this "real science" track when it was 100% pure white (like plaster), haven't you? Carl Baugh didn't tell him to go use acid wash to make it brown like it is now, did he? (i.e. surface bubbling)
And, now you doubt the science that 100% of biologists in the academy, and 99.9% of biologists across the world all agree upon. You claim to know their research is all wrong? You learned this where? From more "real" science like this video??
It's true.............................get over it. There are thousands of caveman tools, and Mammoth arrowheads used by them, all over this area, it was a coastline and a lagoon back then, there are caves here where they lived, yes there is plenty of evidence it happened here. We were raised to think differently and our brains refuse to accept this evidence. Wake up.
What ARE you talking about? "Mammoth arrowheads"?? What's a Mammoth arrowhead? Are you implying that you can take down a MAMMOTH with an ARROW? You're telling OTHERS to wake up? Not to mention, who the hell cares about MAMMOTHS?? This ridiculous track is a fake carving of a DINOSAUR track. What do dinosaurs have to do with mammoths? Jesus fucking goddamned imaginary christ!!! You're off by about 70 million years!! Yes, man and mammoth lived together. Man and dino did NOT!
And as advice only. It is moot to argue or to debate with The Frenchman. There are those in our civilization that are convinced in what they believe. And no getting after them will change their mind. It is that old saying.. " You can lead a horse to water, however cannot force it to drink".
There will always be those who will call an apple an orange, however at the end of the day, it is still an apple.
It is of my opinion only that Predawn Man and Modern Man are not of the same lineage as there is a missing gene betwixt Chimpanzee's , Apes & Man. Although Strict Evolutionist will ague that this gene was lost over time. I highly doubt this notion tho.
Thanx for Posting this Vid. It will further be a support to my current investigations and research.
Examples of All things evolve are all around us. We can use a seedling as an example. it is a seed thus over time transforms into a sapling and thus over further time develops or evolves into a full grown tree. Same with humans, and all species.
Is Predawn man and Modern Man related by evolution? Possibly yes and possibly no. After all the definitive Link has not been found.
I do not support fully the Evolutionist Theory or The Creationist Theory. In my personal opinion, I believe it is bit of both. That This Universe was and is by Intelligent Design, however the process is by Creation thus bringing about Evolution.
That this Intelligent Divine Energy creates with the process of evolution. Everything evolves. "Everything"
Furthermore, The Ancient Sumerian Culture has been estimated to have existed some 10,000 yrs. ago + or - a few years by Archeologists. It has also been proven that "ALL" Religions bore from Sumeria.
It is my personal opinion [only] that yes it is a great possibility that Man walked with Dinosaurs. However, my question is "When".
Interesting. I would have to say that this information is going to be very difficult for Evolutionists to refute indeed. However, I do not believe that the 6000 yr. Genesis Biblical Script is accurate based on later Scripts that suggest that a Day, is 1000 yrs. to a God.
This evidence does not prove that man-womankind was created 6000 yrs. ago. As a matter of fact there is evidence in Archeology that refutes that idea. The discovery of The Sumerian Civilization.
This strengthens the creation argument!!! Why and/or how is it heritical? Spend a couple of minutes thinking about it. All creatures created at the same time, get it? Mt St Helens is more PROOF that paleontology (which is not a science) has been based on many false assumptions that evolutionists depend on.
one of the caverns in France that is renowned for Neanderthal artifacts. The cave has been closed to the public. Science News was given the opportunity to publish the remarkable photo, but declined. It seems that evidence against the prevailing paradigm of naturalistic origin was selected against. It is buried alive by the scientific establishment. this is natural selection in the most literal sense!
@1billion1deaths1 Your message is incomprehensible but I'd love to know what you're talking about. Most archaeological sites are closed to the public, because they must not be disturbed. Also, I hope you're not talking about a Neanderthal cave with cave-paintings, since Neanderthals did not paint... that form of art only appeared with homo sapiens. I'm a French archaeologist specialized in Neanderthals, and there is no conspiracy of any kind, and I'm willing to discuss this with you, for fun...
@Wotanraven Im talking about lack of evidence on human origins with religioun/beliefs/assumptions. Evidence of ancient man artifacts are undeniable. ancient monkey bones are not evidence of transmutation from animal to human. Evidence of transformation from animal to human is obsolete, Its a magical transformation that has never occurred in more then 10,000yrs recorded in time. Your belief of old incomplete monkey bones and microbs is rather amusing.
@1billion1deaths1 10,000 years is a blink of an eye in the history of Earth. Of course human evolution isn't visible in the last 10,000 years. No scientist says humans evolved significantly in that short time frame. And the evidence of evolution of humans from other apes certainly is not obsolete. And it's not about "believing", it's about accepting scientific fact. You creationists have a very strong misunderstanding of the concepts of evolution, which is why all your arguments are ridiculous.
@Wotanraven 10,000 years of no magical tranformation is evidence of theory , silly in many definitions. But its not my belief its yours. Scientific Facts cannot be refuted, and your theory has been refuted since first theorized. So dont be calling your scientific theory a "fact" u ignorant magical transformation believer. U have a ignorant understanding to "facts" and "theorys" ..your human origin beliefs are just beliefs not factual. Doesnt matter how strong of a belief u have its still belief.
@1billion1deaths1 "magical transformation" : from someone who believes in an invisible man in the sky who creates humanity for his own selfish satisfaction. You're a keeper! But anyway, fossil evidence (which I have studied first hand) and evolutionary theory has not been refuted in any serious manner, except in these creationist sites which don't understand a thing about scientific method. Again, 10,000 years isn't a long enough period to observe evolution in mammals. Your argument is ignorant
@Wotanraven The fossil record is irrefutable? Where did Lucy's feet come from? Where did her knee come from? Wat it close by? How much is the scientist's imagination and how much is real evidence? ... If a person asks these simple questions, the supposed human fossil record quickly becomes spurious at best. Why is the Mammoth dated 10,000 years ago when other fossils at the same depth are dated 100's of thousands of years ago? Maybe it's the cave drawings of early man?
@EhdrianEh You do know that fossil depth varies from place to place depending on sedimentation, right? But yeah, you won't find a T-Rex fossil situated DIRECTLY over a Mammoth one (it's called relative chronology) unless there was a disturbance in the ground, which can be observed fairly easily (I have done it myself a few times). Also, you'd be surprised to know how critical scientists are to theories which rely on imagination more than strong evidence. Scientists are very careful about this.
Hi, I'm Alvis Delk. I found this track with my convicted murderer friend James Bishop. People say that because I have a history of being busted for forging fake artifacts like Indian arrowheads, that I've also faked this track. NONSENSE! I found this track LOOSE in a pile of rocks and stuck it in my basement for 8 years, that's normal, right? When I needed money, I sold it to Carl Baugh for $250. And, no, Carl Baugh is NOT a con man just because he sells fake diplomas from a school in CostaRica.
Carl Baugh's schools don't have any faculty or staff or buildings, but if you send him $2000, he'll send you a PhD. What's wrong with THAT? Of course, he's the first person I called when I found this authentic track. I took $250 from him instead of the $MILLIONS I would get from the museum circuits if authenticated in a real university. Carl Baugh authenticated this in a medical CT scanner, and this video says it's real, therefore it's real. Nobody lies in a video.
People keep bringing up the fact that there are a bunch of pictures of me with this track when it was snow white (as if it was just a carving), and now this track is brown. But, NO, those little bubbles and flaking are NOT because I used acid wash to make a snow white new casting look brown and old. Carl Baugh says it's real. And, so what if he doesn't allow anyone to examine it? If the video says the video is real, the video is real, just like the bible says it's real.
And, people keep telling me that the wide heel of the dino print, and the unrealistic angles and toes of the human print, are also evidence that this is just a carving. But, what do those "experts" know? They say the dino print should have claw/nail marks and should have a narrower and pointier heel, but maybe this dino didn't have any claws, and had a club foot!!?? So what if I have a history of fraud, and that I accepted only $250 for my multi-$million track? It's REAL!
@rockethead7 "" And, no, Carl Baugh is NOT a con man just because he sells fake diplomas from a school in CostaRica. ""
wtf !!! If that doesnt say con man I dont know what does
Carl Baugh has even been discredited by the answers in genesis website., in particular regarding the palaxy river footprints, and his non existant "credentials""
Don Batten, of Creation Ministries International wrote: "Some Christians will try to use Baugh's 'evidences' in witnessing and get 'shot down' by someone who is scientifically literate. The ones witnessed to will thereafter be wary of all creation evidences and even more inclined to dismiss Christians as nut cases not worth listening to."
I wonder if the recent finds of dinosaur soft tissue, that was in rock dated 68 million years old could mean that dinosaurs really are a whole lot younger than we think. Since we have organic matter why not do carbon testing on the blood vessels, protein that was discovered by Mary Schweitzer. It took several years, but it has been proven to be authentic soft tissue - not a contamination! Google: Reexamination of T. Rex Verifies Disputed Biochemical Remains
Schweitzer's finds were 70 million years old. About a billion other bones from the same strata were dated 70 million years old. NONE have been dated younger than 65 million. A few well preserved bones are found with microscopic "soft" tissue (no cells, no vessels, only outlines, and tiny traces of durable collagen, which is like plastic, & only got soft after 2 weeks in acid), & now dinos are young? No. The real question is "what was different about the preservation of these few?"
WOW!! @o@ have you ANY idea how many properly dated, with a compliation of proven methods, fossils are in museums all around the world today? literally hundreds of thousands! an Some one just special scans one just one set of two foot prints NOT EVEN A SERIES OF FOOT PRINTS just one from each side and thats *cough* evidence of what!? I can't even get my words out and im fuckin typing!!! Stop making christians look stupid!!!! for the love of Abraham's God STOP!!! Who'd actually believe that!?
@smoothpeople33 The guy who bought it is known for making fake evidence. He just learned from his mistakes and didn't let scientists access his lastest "discovery".
It's just another lie to make sure that people give money to the church.
Isn't it funny that so many people who consider themselves "Christians" post to YouTube and show not one particle of compassion or respect for others in their replies? What's wrong here?
Yeah, fuck you. And, fuck you again. I just fucking proved you wrong, you took a few days to go look it up and found that you were DEAD FUCKING WRONG, and I was right.
What were your prior words? A snottyass "fun fact" that the sphere and circle were the same word in Hebrew? Right, and after I call you on this fucking LIE, and point out the correct words, what is your reply? "Oh, well, we don't have to take it literally, and it doesn't say it's flat."
Yes, the bible's magic... take it literally for all things convenient... if it's been proven wrong, it was just metaphore or poetry. Nice. You have the benefit of making it say whatever YOU want. Meanwhile, it also talks about trees/mountains tall enough to see the entire Earth (not possible with a sphere). Oh, but THAT is metaphore, right? Dragons and unicorns, metaphore. Magic men who walk on water, literal. Right?
Yeah, you're another fuckpig far beyond hope. I'm done wiht you.
IF this magical Bible book was inspired by the allpowerful allknowing creator of everything, you'd think the fucking dude could make a book that is NOT subject to so much interpretation and metaphore. You do know that the church VOTED on Jesus' status as a god or prophet (which is all he ever claimed to be), right? You do know the bible's books were VOTED on, right? What happened to the book where Judas was the good guy? Voted out.
The bible requires VOTING? If I was a god, I could do better.
You say fun fact? Sphere and circle were the same word? Um, no.
Isaiah 40:22 called the world "gh" (which means round flat disk, like a CD). The Hebrew word "rwd" means sphere (but it wasn't used to describe Earth). And, yes, "rwd" did exist in other Hebrew texts from the same period.
You WANT to believe that the authors of the bible thought the world was a sphere, but, nope, sorry fucktwit, they thought it was FLAT, covered by a crystal dome, and the sun/stars revolved around.
@112291514 Read the first page of the bible and tell me the men who wrote it didn't think the earth was the center of everything. The sun moved and the earth didn't. Everyone thought that 2000 years ago.
Sigh, these stupid fucktwits unfortunately will NEVER listen to a word you say, or what I say. They've decided to re-write history. THAT is how far gone their brains are. Beyond the point of no return. Baked. Fried on religion. Worse than drugs.
The bible's authors thought the Earth is a flat disk, stands on pillars, covered by a crystal dome, and the sun/stars revolved around Earth. But, fucktwits rewrite history to say that "flat" and "sphere" were the same Hebrew word?? Um, no.!
Dear @korzon. For an additional secular perspective, read "The Galileo Legend" by Thomas Lessl, published in the New Oxford Review of June 2000. For instance, did you know that "in 1611, after Galileo published The Starry Messenger, the book which reports the discoveries he made with his telescope, the Vatican college in Rome honored him with a full day of festivities"? Fascinating stuff considering the supposed antithesis between the rationale of scientists and christian thinkers in history.
I met Mr Delk a few years before he found this track. He was a close friend of my uncles. Mr Delk was just as amazed as any skeptic when he found this track, and was even skeptical about letting his discovery be known for quite some time. Before he found it, he himself doubted such a thing could exist.
You met Alvis Delk? Wow, did you ask him about his history forging fake indian arrowheads, or why he does his "geology" in Paluxy with a convicted murderer? You met him BEFORE he "found" this miraculous track. Too bad. If you met him AFTERWARD, then you could have asked him why he sold it for $250 to a known fraudster like Carl Baugh instead of getting it authenticated by a university and making MILLIONS on the museum circuits (if found real).
We have been taught that the theory of evolution was fact for so long that this thing is as extreme as finding out that the earth isn’t flat. Another idea that was disproven by Christians to the dismay of ‘accreted’ scientists of its time. Anyone who would dare go against the popular beliefs of that time could face execution. And would certainly be marked as dangerous lunatic. Not quite as bad as the post modern media fueled world… but almost.
About going against popular beliefs and facing execution, yeah, like when Galileo was locked up for life (and threatened death) by the church for saying that the Earth revolves around the sun, against the biblical teachings. You're right, the church has quite a history of that.
Good thing SCIENCE doesn't do that. Science changes all the time. Science takes in new knowledge willingly. Only RELIGION persecutes/kills people for going against dogma.
@rockethead7 The bible doesn't teach the contrary give me the verse.It was ignorant men it had nothing to do with GOD He said the planets and stars are perfect in their alignments He made no specific mention to what they were.He also explained how the moon stops the sea from going onto the land in a sense.But the thing you are speaking of I never heard just give me the verse and I stand corrected if not youre wrong.
“He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers.”
I can draw a circle on a flat piece of paper, they are 2D. FLAT.
The men who wrote the bible thought the earth was flat and the canter of the solar system. The christians put Galileo under house arrest when he proved them and the bible wrong.
You are truly sick. Your mind is so warped, it's really unfathomable. You read that fucking ridiculous 2000 year old folklore book written by ancient idiots as if it's a center of knowledge. Meanwhile, it talks about the earth being on pilars, being unmoving, etc. And, there are NO references to the Earth being a sphere. It says 2-dimensional "round" (like a CD). It never uses the 3-dimensional word for sphere which DID exist. And, it talks about a crystal dome that the stars hang from.
So, let's see, a ridiculous looking obviously carved track by a known forger of indian arrowheads, and found with a convicted murderer, and sold to fraudster Carl Baugh,
vs.
Over a billion documented and peer reviewed fossils, NEVER finding man in the same strata as dino, or dino as trilobite, etc., plus irrefutable DNA evidence in the form of ERV patterns, adavisms, chromosomal matching, cytochrome-C patterns, mitochondrial DNA, etc.
@gregrutz Oh don't cry grunty. Did I tell you that you couldn't make ignorant, stupid, asinine remarks? Certainly not, far be it from me to suppress your freedom of idiocy. GO right ahead and pretend you know your ass from a hole in the ground asshole.
WOW! You guys and your ad hominem attacks on creationists look like a bunch of 8 year olds and make the scientific community look even worse than it already appears. Grow Up!
cctman 2 weeks ago
This is crazy. The guy is using scientific methods to find his conclusions and still people come here and play him!?! Give him credit and and if you believe you are right simply make a video and explain in detail, as he does, refuting all his claims. Snuff said. Actions are loader than goofy comments.
Fusion840 3 weeks ago
@Fusion840
"Scientific methods"? WHERE? Is it scientific to take a rock to a MEDICAL FACILITY? Is it scientific to deny all other independent examination? Is it scientific to produce a gibberish video with babblings that sound good to morons, but to any scientist doesn't make sense whatsoever?
A known counterfeiter (Alvis Delk) and murderer (James Bishop) "find" this track, loose, and sell it to known con artist with fake schools and fake PhDs Carl Baugh for $250?
Yeah, good science.
rockethead7 3 weeks ago
a guy finds a proof that brings a huge earthquake on palaeontology
he knows about it
So he sells it for 250$ ?
and does not allow independent study ? based on a scientist conspiracy ?
just ,lol
any man with such proof would get wealthy and famous ,a lab or anyone that would certifies it would also be famous.
Btw i have the golden gate for sale for a good price ,however will only give the sell docs
after i have the cash on my hands ;)
TheKrull2001 2 months ago
lol none of the evolosers watched the video. They're all commenting on whether the tracks at the river belong to dinosaurs or humans when this vid is about wehter or not a specific track that is admitted by everyone to be a human track, is a forgery or not
utubedetective72 2 months ago
This video is full of shit. Creationist drivel and hogwash.
Cainkane1 2 months ago
Carl Baugh of the Creation Museum refuses to allow independent analysis of the Delk Track nor of the 80+ foot prints he claims to have found in Cretaceous rock. Whether it be justified or not, he has a dubious reputation for falsehoods. There are indeed claims that anomolies with the Delk Track exist, besides the fact he won't properly support his assertions or allow analysis from others. He hasn't written any papers on it either. Assertions without evidence requires no further rebuttal.
thybigballs 2 months ago
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"For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse."
- Romans 1:20
JDubbs740 2 months ago
Evolution = FAIL
JDubbs740 2 months ago
EVER HEARD OF CARBON DATING?? You can tell how old bones, fossils and shells are.
a4ol 2 months ago
I just spent 30 minuts reading allt these arguments. Rockethead7 and storma22 rocks! My own personal belief is, sad to say, yes, you ppl who actualky believe this. Is morons. Nothing personal. Just a fact.
biorn1973 3 months ago
Whats the point here? To prove that mankind is a couple of 100 milion years olderthan first thiugh, or that the earth is just 6000 years old? I wouldnt say that all atheists are fools, but i would say that some christians are..
biorn1973 3 months ago
they have been proved as human footprints. follow the evidence, dermal ridges ect. athiests are fools
mdebbiec1 3 months ago
@mdebbiec1
Matthew 5:22 "and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire. "
See you in hell mdebbiec.
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@mdebbiec1
Actually no, they're scientifically shown to be elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks-- made by dinosaurs that at times impressed their metatarsi as they walked.
Nothing but creationist wishful thinking and stupidity.
GnosticHumanist 3 months ago
FAIL
The "man tracks" in the riverbed are forms of elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks-- made by dinosaurs that at times impressed their metatarsi as they walked. When digit impressions of such tracks are subdued by mud-collapse, erosion, infilling, or a combination of factors, the remaining metatarsal portions often superficially resemble human footprints. However, when well cleaned such tracks show definite indications of tridactyl, dinosaurian digit patterns. (Kuban, 1986a, 1986b).
GnosticHumanist 3 months ago
FAKE! It was me while I was travelling through time
dinogodx 3 months ago
athiest really get mad when their proved to be fools
mdebbiec1 3 months ago
@mdebbiec1 Beautiful song "From the Depths of My Heart" - 1992 "
xchris1800 3 months ago
FAIL
The "man tracks" in the riverbed are forms of elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks-- made by dinosaurs that at times impressed their metatarsi as they walked. When digit impressions of such tracks are subdued by mud-collapse, erosion, infilling, or a combination of factors, the remaining metatarsal portions often superficially resemble human footprints. However, when well cleaned such tracks show definite indications of tridactyl, dinosaurian digit patterns. (Kuban, 1986a, 1986b).
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5tonyvvvv 3 months ago
@GnosticHumanist Intelligence is needed to create software code or assemble a computer! FAR MORE intelligence is needed for the assemblance of the first Cell and thereby DNA. A DNA code is far more complex in design than All the Worlds Softwares COMBINED!! Therefore we can deduce Intelligent DESIGN! Homochirality and hydrolysis would prevent life from ever starting! It is chemically and mathematically impossible for a single protein to form by chance!
5tonyvvvv 3 months ago
@5tonyvvvv
Actually no, it's already been proven that oligotides can be formed spontaneously given the right conditions.
No creator required other than the forces of the universe.
GnosticHumanist 3 months ago
@Gnosti WRONG!! These experiments are the furthest things from undirected natural processes, scientists in controlled laboratories, using pre existing information and copying and borrow information, is not natural processes even with time! Not to mention they use templates and synthesizing machines to get there reactions going! These experiments are not geochemical relevant reactions!! You are just another gullible indoctrinated atheist!
5tonyvvvv 3 months ago
FAIL
The "man tracks" in the riverbed are forms of elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks-- made by dinosaurs that at times impressed their metatarsi as they walked. When digit impressions of such tracks are subdued by mud-collapse, erosion, infilling, or a combination of factors, the remaining metatarsal portions often superficially resemble human footprints. However, when well cleaned such tracks show definite indications of tridactyl, dinosaurian digit patterns. (Kuban, 1986a, 1986b).
GnosticHumanist 3 months ago
@GnosticHumanist You fail. They are clearly human tracks. Anyone with two working eyeballs can count 5 human toes clear as day. The tracks you speak of do not show off clear human digits. You can even see how the big toe would have made an indent in the mud, which no metatarsal dinosaur tracks have (unless dinos had human toes). The prints were examined with a high amount of scrutiny and you're in denial.
ubermechazillatron 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
You can think what you buddy, ithe scientific analysis by actual paleontologists with peer-reviewed papers show these are clearly " forms of elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks-- made by dinosaurs that at times impressed their metatarsi as they walked".
If it makes you feel better lying to yourself to falsely back up your Bronze age superstition, then fine, go ahead.
GnosticHumanist 2 months ago
@GnosticHumanist You have no proof to back up these claims. And what "peer-reviewed papers" do you speak of? You evos just sweep these finds under the rug and hope people still believe in your lie. Metatarsal dinosaur tracks don't form human digits and the precise human foot structure, they form what may look like a human foot print at first glance. You can lead an evo to evidence, but you can't make them think.
ubermechazillatron 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
Actually I'm the ONLY one here with scientific proof.
GnosticHumanist 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
Yeah, I am Alvis Delk, and I can't believe how many people do NOT believe my track is real! These evolutwits keep bringing up that I found it with my convicted murderer friend, James Bishop. And, they bring up the fact that I sold it to Carl Baugh, who runs fake diploma mill schools out of Costa Rica with no faculty or staff, and just a PO box. But, it's REAL. Carl Baugh himself got a PhD from his own school, that makes it real. Evotwits think that I carved this track. Sigh.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
I'm Alvis Delk (cont).
I'm so tired of evoidiots thinking I carved this track, just because there are photos of me with this track while it was still snow white (as if it was just plaster or something), and because Carl Baugh won't let anyone examine it. And, no, it's NOT brown and bubbly now due to acid wash!
Lots of evotwits ask why I sold this track for $250 to Carl Baugh, instead of having it authenticated in a university, which would make it worth MILLIONS if real.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@rockethead7 You are 100,000,000% NOT a troll who has no clue what they're talking about....DUR HUR!
ubermechazillatron 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
Um, sorry dude, you're completely stupid.
The story of the Alvis Delk track:
- Alvis Delk (busted for, and self-confessed forger of old artifacts like indian arrowheads) and his friend James Bishop (convicted murderer) claim to "find" this track LOOSE (???!!!!) in the rocks by a riverbed.
- Loose tracks generally aren't accepted as valid evidence because they could be forgeries, and can't be authenticated in situ, but, ok, let's give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
(cont)
- Alvis Delk puts this remarkable find in his basement for 8 years??
- Delk then claims he uncovered the man-track portion later, and went to sell it.
- If authentic, the museum circuits would pay MILLIONS for this.
- Delk then takes this track and shows it around. Photos are taken (I have one) with this track SNOW WHITE as if it was a fresh carving.
- Alvis Delk takes it to Carl Baugh for authentication instead of a university (??), and sells for $250.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@rockethead7 1. Ad hom means nothing when it comes to the authenticity of evidence. Darwin was a racist who refers to Africans as "savages" and puts them on the same level as apes in his "Origin of Species", but does that immediately discredit his science? No, it doesn't. Attacking Delk and Bishop means nothing when it comes to the authenticity of the track. Your fail count: 1
ubermechazillatron 2 months ago
@rockethead7 2. No museum or university would take this fossil. Are you kidding me? They have an agenda, to push this evolution lie into the public mind for as long as they can. You also make a bunch of bold assertions about the fossil and the people investigating it without providing any evidence or references. Sorry, but we creationists are not dumb enough to except everything at face value like evolutionists. Your fail count: 2
ubermechazillatron 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
(cont)
- Carl Baugh has a long reputation for these man-tracks. Each time he finds one, it's demonstrated as a fake, but the next time, he says THIS one is real.
- Carl Baugh won't let anyone examine this one.
- Carl Baugh claims a number of PhDs. All are from diploma mills. At least one is from his own school, which doesn't have any buildings, any faculty, and is registered in Central America. The website has "diploma samples" on its home page. Send him $2000, get a PhD.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
(cont)
- Baugh then takes Delk's track to a HOSPITAL (?) to be authenticated in a C/T (?) scanner?
- This is extremely abnormal, and isn't the correct equipment to use.
- They make a few official sounding videos of this track (like this one, which fools only idiots such as you).
- The human toes on this track look ridiculous, and the heel looks flat.
- The dino track is too rounded, and lacks the boney impressions in the digits, and the claw marks at the ends.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@rockethead7 3. CAT scans are often used on fossils...not quite sure what you're smoking. Just do a quick google search to see that many fossils have been authenticated with CAT scans. Both the human and dinosaur track look completely legit, maybe it's just your evo eyes which have trained you to reject truth. Your fail count: 3
ubermechazillatron 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
Even IF you believe that a counterfeiter and convicted murderer found this track, and then sold it to a conster who runs diploma mill schools and has a checkered past with many fake prints, you still believe it's real, how do you come to terms with they found it "LOOSE"? How would you know it wasn't one of the many fakes that were sold to tourists in Paluxy from years past, and merely discarded?
Photos of Delk with this track when it was WHITE AS SNOW. Case closed.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@rockethead7 More ad hom and baseless assertions, am I suppose to be impressed? Anyway, you did not cite anything. That would require providing links, references to articles, etc. A quick google search of the fossil shows that it was never "snow white" like you claim. I do find your raging quite amusing though so feel free to make another response. Your fail count: 5
ubermechazillatron 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
No, it's NOT an ad hominem attack to point out that Delk was a known counterfeiter of artifacts, or that Carl Baugh has fake PhDs out of fake schools. This goes toward their credibility, which is all we CAN rely on for this track, since they refuse to allow independent analysis.
I *have* photos of this track when it was snow white before Delk/Baugh acid washed it. Case fucking closed.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
Since we can't post links in comments, I sent you a private message with a link to one of the photos from when this track was snow white... and I included before and after... as well as what the dino track SHOULD look like if it was real (claw marks, boney digitization, narrow heel, etc.).
Checkmate, you stupid pig.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@rockethead7 LOL! Yeah, I sent you a response PM which completely stomped you (which I can share with anyone else if they're interested). Your fail count: 9000+
ubermechazillatron 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
Yes, your response said that the photo of Delk with this carving when it was snow white is becuase it was "just a casting" of the real track.
HA, yeah, right. Nice try. No, it's certainly NOT because those were the photos of him showing this track around before he acid-washed it. Oh, and strange that this "casting" doesn't have the bubbling that the "real" track has. Why is that? Because it's NOT a casting. It's the "real" track before acid wash.
Checkmate, fuckpig.
rockethead7 1 month ago
@rockethead7 Yeah, at this point I believe this debate is over. I sent you an article which clearly states that the pic you sent me was a cast, and the two look identical except for the fact that one's a cast and one's the real deal. On top of that your ad hom is getting progressively less amusing so it's not even fun now. You got spanked, deal with it.
ubermechazillatron 1 month ago
@ubermechazillatron
And, you BELIEVE the article claiming it's a casting?
- Known counterfeiter of artifacts and his convicted murderer friend "find" this miracle track worth millions (if real).
- Sells it to known conman with fake PhDs running fake schools out of Costa Rica for $250?
- Had it authenticated in a HOSPITAL instead of proper lab?
- Won't let anyone examine it.
Picture of Delk with "track" when it was white as snow (you believe BS article that it's a casting).
What a retard
rockethead7 1 month ago
@ubermechazillatron
If you believe idiocy, you're an idiot. How DARE you project idioc onto others for doubting this crap?
I mean, how COULD anyone tell the difference between a counterfeit and a real one, if not for independent verification (which they will not allow)? So, what's the correct answer in your mind? ANYONE who makes a fancy sounding video and posts it on youtube is telling the truth, and it's not counterfeit?
Why WON'T they allow independent verification? Conspiracy? Spare me.
rockethead7 1 month ago
@ubermechazillatron
The REAL answer is this:
You're a fucking moron.
You believe anything and everything that supports your narrow view.
You discard all evidence to the contrary.
Period, end of story.
rockethead7 1 month ago
@ubermechazillatron
(cont)
- I forgot to mention (this is out of order), that some time after Delk was showing this track around when it was snow white, and when he showed it to Carl Baugh, suddenly now this track is dark brown, and has flaking and bubbling.
- If you carved a track in plaster or white stone, and you wanted it to look aged, you could acid-wash it, and this would age it and turn it brown. But, it causes flaking and bubbling also when you do this. Anything sound familiar?
rockethead7 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
Spare me your ridiculous "DUR HUR" idiocy. Only a complete moron (which apparently you are) could possibly believe this insane story of Alvis Delk and his murder friend James Bishop, and con-man Carl Baugh.
See, but like the creatard that you are... you don't actually INVESTIGATE anything you agree with. You take it all on blind faith (as your pathetic brain has been programmed to do). And, like the fucking moron you are, now you believe this clownish carving is "real"!
rockethead7 2 months ago
@rockethead7 4. Your ad hom slinging and rage typing without providing any actual evidence indicates that this find really got you scared and butt hurt. Even if the track was fake (which at this point does not seem to be the case) there is an abundance of evidence against darwinian/macro evolution. Heck, even an ounce of rational thought can completely debunk the theory...I expect you to be in Sunday school bright and early Sunday morning young man. Your fail count: 4
ubermechazillatron 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
Your delusion is amazing. Under the circumstances that this "track" went through, you'd be an IDIOT to believe any of the ridiculous story. You only believe it because it supports your own viewpoint. If I posted a fancy video of some "proof" AGAINST your viewpoint, under the 100% identical circumstances (found by a murderer and a counterfeiter, won't allow anyone to examine it, found LOOSE so nobody can confirm origin), you'd laugh me out the door. Oh, no, but not THIS!!??
rockethead7 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
You're saying that there's nothing wrong with the carving? Perhaps you overlooked that I REPEATEDLY cited the photos of this track when it was SNOW WHITE (before Alvis Delk or Carl Baugh acidwashed). Yeah, THAT is pretty fucking concrete evidence that it's a new carving, you numbnut idiot.
You think the track LOOKS authentic? Your expertise/training was from where? Barney the dino's clown college? They look all wrong. Delk's own daughter is an expert and doesn't belief him.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
And, on top of all of that... the story itself just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Keep believing in your conspiracy theory if you want. But, many have offered to examine/authenticate this track.
Oh, and by the way, it's not an "ad hominem" attack to point out that Baugh won't allow this track to be examined (because the ones he submitted in the past were proven fakes). And it's not "ad hominem" to point out that Delk is a self-confessed counterfeiter of artifacts.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
And, it's not "ad hominem" to point out how just plainly ridiculous the entire story is:
Delk claimed in interviews to know the rarity and special nature of this "find" - yet, he sold it for $250? Right. If you had the world's largest diamond, would you sell it for $250?
And, he took it to Carl Baugh, a known conster who runs fake schools and has a checkered past with many proven fakes of these tracks? Even if you thought he was innocent, you wouldn't take it to Baugh.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@ubermechazillatron
(cont)
I hope you read ALL of the postings I made. I know it's past your brain's 5 word capacity, but try really hard.
What is it about this crap that has creatards so stopped in the tracks, and they fall for con-jobs like this one, hook line and sinker? I mean, substitute "diamond the size of a car sold for $250 by known forger and convicted murderer, but they say it's a real diamond" in place of "man/dino track by Delk/Bishop" and NOBODY believes the diamond is real.
rockethead7 2 months ago
@GnosticHumanist "metatarsal dinosaur tracks"??? Are you for real? Whatever the truth is, that is as implausible as it gets.
logofreetv 2 months ago
@logofreetv
Yea it's called scientific analysis and evidence by trained paleontologists whose reports have been peer reviewed.
You see normal people use evidence and proof.
It may not be something you're familiar with.
GnosticHumanist 2 months ago
@GnosticHumanist "trained paleontologists whose reports have been peer reviewed."
translation to English:
"like-minded blind people who endorse philosophical paradigms that are completely absurd - such as the idea evolution can account for the diversity of life on the planet - patting each other on the back."
But do continue to make a fool of yourself. I personally know someone involved in the Paluxy tracks and he was extremely resistant to the idea at first. What would you suggest I ask him?
logofreetv 1 month ago
@logofreetv
It's callec crticially evaluated science backed by EVIDENCE, rather than wishful thinling and superstition.
Notice the difference?
GnosticHumanist 1 month ago
@GnosticHumanist
No, they do NOT know the difference. I mean, these creatards are people who look at the BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of vigorously documented and cross-verified fossils in science, and discard those. Instead, they believe in this small handful of ridiculous forgeries (like this one), never allowed to be examined, "found" by convicted murderers/ counterfeiters, and sold for $250. The real irony is that this forgery makes headlines at all (because it's ALL they have).
rockethead7 1 month ago
@rockethead7
What world so you live in? I think you need to be examined psychologically.
It's called science, critical thinking and EVIDENCE. Something you clearly don't seem to understand.
GnosticHumanist 1 month ago
@GnosticHumanist
Let me get this straight... I AGREE with you, and yet you fucking sit there and tell ME that I don't understand science?? JESUS FUCKING GODDAMNED IMAGINARY CHRIST!!! The world has gone fucking stupid.
rockethead7 1 month ago
@rockethead7
Step away from the keyboard.
GnosticHumanist 1 month ago
@GnosticHumanist Yeah rockethead sent me a message with his same blabbering and cursing and so forth - its shows a great lack in respect and character...
Fusion840 3 weeks ago
@GnosticHumanist
Perhaps you're asking for some imagination, but to me Kuban's photos of metatarsal tracks are a far cry from the video's print. The metatarsal-phalangeal joint and heel are both indented more than the rest of the print (as a human's would be), and there is no evidence of drag in the toes themselves. The proportions are perfect. What dinosaur did you have in mind that has five toes that close together?
shootmek 1 month ago
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@shootmek
You can believe whatever fairy tale you want, but don't expect those who actually know the scientific evidence to take you at all seriously.
GnosticHumanist 1 month ago
@GnosticHumanist Go ahead and quote Kuban all you want, just stick your head in the sand and shout " IT CAN'T BE HUMAN FOOTPRINTS ! "
I am so SICK of evo's denying and searching endlessly to prove their theory, anyone can copy / paste anything. Do you have an original thought or does mommy have to give you permission to do that. UNBEIVEABLE !
Great video Ian, keep up the good work and God bless
mikey1701 2 days ago
@mikey1701
It's called SCIENCE; critically and objectively analyzing a situation, not trying to find something that you can twist to try and fit into the paradigm of religious superstition like creationism.
GnosticHumanist 2 days ago
@GnosticHumanist hahahahahahaha, yes ! copy / paste anything you can to dispute the obvious HUMAN footprints in the Paluxy, this is so funny ! Do you really think that your puny little brain making all of the puny little comments made here are going to refute ANYTHING ! hahahahahaha I can't believe it ! Say it isn't so gnustichumnoid !
mikey1701 2 days ago
@mikey1701
Seems like "copy/paste" is your only argument....
Why doesn't science agree with you?
odinata 1 day ago
@mikey1701
Yes, it's called a peer-reviewed academic paper with PROOF in it. You might want to read one sometime.
GnosticHumanist 1 day ago
Evolutionist are lost in evidence and facts, all we they have is a frustation.
xchris1800 3 months ago 2
@xchris1800 Retard
TheDrCynic 3 months ago
Répondre à cette vidéo... What do you mean, retard.
TheDrCynic 3 months ago
Again..No one will take you serious when you have a potty mouth. No one wins the lottery 30 times in a row and complex life forms don't come from soup. Order requires intelligence. You must have intelligence first for DNA or a computer program. If anyone is insane it's the Macro-evolutionists. They use circular reasoning and carbon dating which has proven to be inaccurate. They try to force belief on people, they are religious. It takes much faith to believe humans came from soup. Ron Paul 2012
storma22 3 months ago
@storma22
You said only one thing correctly (Ron Paul 2012)
Beyond that, you're nothing but a moron who believes ANY claptrap put out by creationist nitwits, and you know NOTHING about science. Remember how this whole thing started: THIS VIDEO which you called "real science" about a murderer and known counterfeiter who forged this track and sold it to a con man who made an idiotic gibberish video. (And you won't comment on why there are photos of Delk with this carving before it was finished.)
rockethead7 3 months ago
@storma22
Do you never wonder why NONE of the Carl Baugh tracks (he has several) have EVER been submitted for review? (Because he knows they WON'T hold up under real scientific scrutiny.) Do you ever wonder why Carl Baugh went to Costa Rica and "found" hundreds more of these tracks on his first attempt (haha), and yet nobody can ever verify this claim? Do you ever wonder WHY the ONLY PERSON ON EARTH who"found" the supposed 20,000 Ica stones won't reveal them, and nobody else has EVER found ONE?
rockethead7 3 months ago
@storma22
Anyway, go ahead and blame my "potty mouth" if you wish, fuckpig. But, I'm done with your fucking idiotic ass. I refuse to respond any further to a pig molesting piece of shit like you who keeps changing topics instead of addressing things point by point (which is all a creationist retard like you CAN do). You REFUSE to explain why there are photos of this "real science" (your words) Delk track, of Alvis Delk when this track was perfect 100% snow white (before he applied acid wash).
rockethead7 3 months ago
@storma22
Not to mention, fuckpig asshole, nobody uses carbon dating to measure the age of anything remotely like this, nor from the dinosaur age at all. Get your fucking idiotic ass lies straight at least. I realize you're nothing but a regurgitator of lies you find from your only source of information (creationtard idiot websites), but at least you should fucking UNDERSTAND the lies you tell. Carbon dating DOES NOT FUCKING WORK on this stuff, and nobody ever claimed that it does.
rockethead7 3 months ago
Thanks Carl Baugh for revealing the truth to the world. The ancient Peruvians drew many pictures of humans living with dinosaurs. They used to be called dragons until recent times. Order requires intelligence. Human beings aren't an accident that derived from pre-mordial soup. You are all beautiful and just as complex as the Universe it self. God created you and loves you.
storma22 3 months ago
@storma22
And, you avoid the fact that there are pictures of Alvis Delk with this very track before it was colored brown. He was still working on the carving and hadn't yet dipped it in acid to give it the brown color and to make it looked aged. But, of course, YOU will never accept that. Your brain is too far flushed down the toilet to EVER see reality. In one ear, out the other, move on to a new topic. That is the creationist way. That is EXACTLY what you did, and will always do.
rockethead7 3 months ago
Finally some real science.. not fake evolution theory. Researchers always look to the Bible.The Bible stands the tests of time. There is a God, He created all things, man lived with dinosaurs, there was a world wide flood, Mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia, Jesus came to earth and died for our sins. Science disproved macro-evolution with the fruit flies when they mutated the flies only to find that the DNA is so complex it has a backup code and the flies were normal again 2-3 generations later.
storma22 3 months ago
@storma22
This is "real" science?
Alvis Delk (known counterfeiter) and James Bishop (convicted murderer) "find" this track LOOSE among rocks? If real, it would be worth millions on museum circuits. But, no, he sells it for $250 to Carl Baugh (known con man with fake PhDs from his own fake schools he runs). They take track to a HOSPITAL to be analyzed in a CT machine? Won't let anyone analyze it. Make a YouTube idiot video full of gibberish that sounds good to morons. THIS is "real" science?
rockethead7 3 months ago
@rockethead7 I have been to Carl Baugh's museum in Texas. They have lots of evidence supporting this. God loves you very much. If you look you will find the truth. God bless you. Written thousands of years ago: Job 40:17-18 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones [are] like bars of iron. The Inca stones are even more evidence supporting this. I will go with the evidence instead of some young theory.
storma22 3 months ago
@storma22
Jesus fucking goddamned imaginary christ! You're SERIOUS about that conman Carl Baugh and his ridiculous BS museum full of faked evidence? And you ramble about the 20,000 Ica stones? (Not "Inca" by the way.) ONE MAN supposedly finds 20,000 stones in an undisclosed cave location, which he releases one at a time to the public, EACH ONE ever examined shown as a fake! THAT is your evidence?
You wouldn't fucking know the difference between "real science" and throwing darts at a wall.
rockethead7 3 months ago
@rocket - Most athiests I debate get so frustrated when people won't believe their FRAUD of Macro-evolution... they often resort to Potty Mouth syndrome like yourself. No one will take you serious when you have a potty mouth. No one wins the lottery 7 times in a row, but the odds are better than life creating itself from billion year old soup. Order requires intelligence. You must have intelligence first for DNA or a computer program. You may never have been to the museum, but I have.
storma22 3 months ago
@storma22
The "potty mouth" is due to the extraordinary stupidity and denial I (we) see when confronted by someone as far gone wacko as you are. It's not swearing AT you, it's swearing BECAUSE OF you.
I know you're too far gone to ever reason with, so I won't try. Anyone who believes that 100% of academy biologists, and 99.99% of biologists world wide, are involved in a major "fraud" (as you put it) is far too insane for reason. Let alone the fact that you can look at the evidence yourself.
rockethead7 3 months ago
@storma22
So, keep on believing propaganda, never read a real science journal, and keep on thinking that the entire scientific community worldwide is involved in a major conspiracy against YOU. Paranoid fucking delusional.
Meanwhile, if you want to rely on "evidence" from counterfeiter (Alvis Delk), and his murderer friend (James Bishop), and known conman (Carl Baugh)... be my fucking guest. If you can call that claptrap "real science" (YOUR WORDS), you're fucking dumber than I can imagine.
rockethead7 3 months ago
@storma22
Also, you HAVE seen the photos of Alvis Delk with this "real science" track when it was 100% pure white (like plaster), haven't you? Carl Baugh didn't tell him to go use acid wash to make it brown like it is now, did he? (i.e. surface bubbling)
And, now you doubt the science that 100% of biologists in the academy, and 99.9% of biologists across the world all agree upon. You claim to know their research is all wrong? You learned this where? From more "real" science like this video??
rockethead7 3 months ago
It's true.............................get over it. There are thousands of caveman tools, and Mammoth arrowheads used by them, all over this area, it was a coastline and a lagoon back then, there are caves here where they lived, yes there is plenty of evidence it happened here. We were raised to think differently and our brains refuse to accept this evidence. Wake up.
tonytemplarvideos 4 months ago
@tonytemplarvideos
What ARE you talking about? "Mammoth arrowheads"?? What's a Mammoth arrowhead? Are you implying that you can take down a MAMMOTH with an ARROW? You're telling OTHERS to wake up? Not to mention, who the hell cares about MAMMOTHS?? This ridiculous track is a fake carving of a DINOSAUR track. What do dinosaurs have to do with mammoths? Jesus fucking goddamned imaginary christ!!! You're off by about 70 million years!! Yes, man and mammoth lived together. Man and dino did NOT!
rockethead7 4 months ago
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Alvis Delk was known to make fake arrowheads and sell them as real.
odinata 4 months ago
disproved nonsense.
USERNAMEfieldempty 5 months ago
And as advice only. It is moot to argue or to debate with The Frenchman. There are those in our civilization that are convinced in what they believe. And no getting after them will change their mind. It is that old saying.. " You can lead a horse to water, however cannot force it to drink".
There will always be those who will call an apple an orange, however at the end of the day, it is still an apple.
MaximusLeviticus 5 months ago in playlist HISTORIA INEXPLICABLE
It is of my opinion only that Predawn Man and Modern Man are not of the same lineage as there is a missing gene betwixt Chimpanzee's , Apes & Man. Although Strict Evolutionist will ague that this gene was lost over time. I highly doubt this notion tho.
Thanx for Posting this Vid. It will further be a support to my current investigations and research.
MaximusLeviticus 5 months ago in playlist HISTORIA INEXPLICABLE
Examples of All things evolve are all around us. We can use a seedling as an example. it is a seed thus over time transforms into a sapling and thus over further time develops or evolves into a full grown tree. Same with humans, and all species.
Is Predawn man and Modern Man related by evolution? Possibly yes and possibly no. After all the definitive Link has not been found.
MaximusLeviticus 5 months ago in playlist HISTORIA INEXPLICABLE
I do not support fully the Evolutionist Theory or The Creationist Theory. In my personal opinion, I believe it is bit of both. That This Universe was and is by Intelligent Design, however the process is by Creation thus bringing about Evolution.
That this Intelligent Divine Energy creates with the process of evolution. Everything evolves. "Everything"
MaximusLeviticus 5 months ago in playlist HISTORIA INEXPLICABLE
Furthermore, The Ancient Sumerian Culture has been estimated to have existed some 10,000 yrs. ago + or - a few years by Archeologists. It has also been proven that "ALL" Religions bore from Sumeria.
It is my personal opinion [only] that yes it is a great possibility that Man walked with Dinosaurs. However, my question is "When".
MaximusLeviticus 5 months ago in playlist HISTORIA INEXPLICABLE
Interesting. I would have to say that this information is going to be very difficult for Evolutionists to refute indeed. However, I do not believe that the 6000 yr. Genesis Biblical Script is accurate based on later Scripts that suggest that a Day, is 1000 yrs. to a God.
This evidence does not prove that man-womankind was created 6000 yrs. ago. As a matter of fact there is evidence in Archeology that refutes that idea. The discovery of The Sumerian Civilization.
MaximusLeviticus 5 months ago in playlist HISTORIA INEXPLICABLE
@MaximusLeviticus ludacris all of what you just said was heritical and bubcus
warangel87 5 months ago
@warangel87
This strengthens the creation argument!!! Why and/or how is it heritical? Spend a couple of minutes thinking about it. All creatures created at the same time, get it? Mt St Helens is more PROOF that paleontology (which is not a science) has been based on many false assumptions that evolutionists depend on.
MrAc4321 4 months ago
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@MrAc4321
You want this both ways, huh?
Paleontology isn't a science? Then what is this delk track?
odinata 4 months ago
Is there any scientific article about it?
guillatra 6 months ago
one of the caverns in France that is renowned for Neanderthal artifacts. The cave has been closed to the public. Science News was given the opportunity to publish the remarkable photo, but declined. It seems that evidence against the prevailing paradigm of naturalistic origin was selected against. It is buried alive by the scientific establishment. this is natural selection in the most literal sense!
1billion1deaths1 6 months ago
@1billion1deaths1 Your message is incomprehensible but I'd love to know what you're talking about. Most archaeological sites are closed to the public, because they must not be disturbed. Also, I hope you're not talking about a Neanderthal cave with cave-paintings, since Neanderthals did not paint... that form of art only appeared with homo sapiens. I'm a French archaeologist specialized in Neanderthals, and there is no conspiracy of any kind, and I'm willing to discuss this with you, for fun...
Wotanraven 5 months ago
@Wotanraven Im talking about lack of evidence on human origins with religioun/beliefs/assumptions. Evidence of ancient man artifacts are undeniable. ancient monkey bones are not evidence of transmutation from animal to human. Evidence of transformation from animal to human is obsolete, Its a magical transformation that has never occurred in more then 10,000yrs recorded in time. Your belief of old incomplete monkey bones and microbs is rather amusing.
1billion1deaths1 5 months ago
@1billion1deaths1 10,000 years is a blink of an eye in the history of Earth. Of course human evolution isn't visible in the last 10,000 years. No scientist says humans evolved significantly in that short time frame. And the evidence of evolution of humans from other apes certainly is not obsolete. And it's not about "believing", it's about accepting scientific fact. You creationists have a very strong misunderstanding of the concepts of evolution, which is why all your arguments are ridiculous.
Wotanraven 5 months ago
@Wotanraven 10,000 years of no magical tranformation is evidence of theory , silly in many definitions. But its not my belief its yours. Scientific Facts cannot be refuted, and your theory has been refuted since first theorized. So dont be calling your scientific theory a "fact" u ignorant magical transformation believer. U have a ignorant understanding to "facts" and "theorys" ..your human origin beliefs are just beliefs not factual. Doesnt matter how strong of a belief u have its still belief.
1billion1deaths1 5 months ago
@1billion1deaths1 "magical transformation" : from someone who believes in an invisible man in the sky who creates humanity for his own selfish satisfaction. You're a keeper! But anyway, fossil evidence (which I have studied first hand) and evolutionary theory has not been refuted in any serious manner, except in these creationist sites which don't understand a thing about scientific method. Again, 10,000 years isn't a long enough period to observe evolution in mammals. Your argument is ignorant
Wotanraven 5 months ago
@Wotanraven The fossil record is irrefutable? Where did Lucy's feet come from? Where did her knee come from? Wat it close by? How much is the scientist's imagination and how much is real evidence? ... If a person asks these simple questions, the supposed human fossil record quickly becomes spurious at best. Why is the Mammoth dated 10,000 years ago when other fossils at the same depth are dated 100's of thousands of years ago? Maybe it's the cave drawings of early man?
EhdrianEh 5 months ago
@EhdrianEh You do know that fossil depth varies from place to place depending on sedimentation, right? But yeah, you won't find a T-Rex fossil situated DIRECTLY over a Mammoth one (it's called relative chronology) unless there was a disturbance in the ground, which can be observed fairly easily (I have done it myself a few times). Also, you'd be surprised to know how critical scientists are to theories which rely on imagination more than strong evidence. Scientists are very careful about this.
Wotanraven 5 months ago
Hi, I'm Alvis Delk. I found this track with my convicted murderer friend James Bishop. People say that because I have a history of being busted for forging fake artifacts like Indian arrowheads, that I've also faked this track. NONSENSE! I found this track LOOSE in a pile of rocks and stuck it in my basement for 8 years, that's normal, right? When I needed money, I sold it to Carl Baugh for $250. And, no, Carl Baugh is NOT a con man just because he sells fake diplomas from a school in CostaRica.
rockethead7 7 months ago
I'm Alvis Delk (cont).
Carl Baugh's schools don't have any faculty or staff or buildings, but if you send him $2000, he'll send you a PhD. What's wrong with THAT? Of course, he's the first person I called when I found this authentic track. I took $250 from him instead of the $MILLIONS I would get from the museum circuits if authenticated in a real university. Carl Baugh authenticated this in a medical CT scanner, and this video says it's real, therefore it's real. Nobody lies in a video.
rockethead7 7 months ago
I'm Alvis Delk (cont).
People keep bringing up the fact that there are a bunch of pictures of me with this track when it was snow white (as if it was just a carving), and now this track is brown. But, NO, those little bubbles and flaking are NOT because I used acid wash to make a snow white new casting look brown and old. Carl Baugh says it's real. And, so what if he doesn't allow anyone to examine it? If the video says the video is real, the video is real, just like the bible says it's real.
rockethead7 7 months ago
I'm Alvis Delk (cont).
And, people keep telling me that the wide heel of the dino print, and the unrealistic angles and toes of the human print, are also evidence that this is just a carving. But, what do those "experts" know? They say the dino print should have claw/nail marks and should have a narrower and pointier heel, but maybe this dino didn't have any claws, and had a club foot!!?? So what if I have a history of fraud, and that I accepted only $250 for my multi-$million track? It's REAL!
rockethead7 7 months ago
@rockethead7 "" And, no, Carl Baugh is NOT a con man just because he sells fake diplomas from a school in CostaRica. ""
wtf !!! If that doesnt say con man I dont know what does
Carl Baugh has even been discredited by the answers in genesis website., in particular regarding the palaxy river footprints, and his non existant "credentials""
Con man written all over him
podoau 5 months ago
Don Batten, of Creation Ministries International wrote: "Some Christians will try to use Baugh's 'evidences' in witnessing and get 'shot down' by someone who is scientifically literate. The ones witnessed to will thereafter be wary of all creation evidences and even more inclined to dismiss Christians as nut cases not worth listening to."
MrMegatruth 7 months ago
81 ignorant people....
gailoftheblackrose 7 months ago
@truthseeker0183 No, religion should not being compared to science.
hannahlovesglee 7 months ago
@hannahlovesglee why because u said so?? your not a scientist your nothing but a dumbfuck.
1billion1deaths1 6 months ago
I wonder if the recent finds of dinosaur soft tissue, that was in rock dated 68 million years old could mean that dinosaurs really are a whole lot younger than we think. Since we have organic matter why not do carbon testing on the blood vessels, protein that was discovered by Mary Schweitzer. It took several years, but it has been proven to be authentic soft tissue - not a contamination! Google: Reexamination of T. Rex Verifies Disputed Biochemical Remains
KrisMayeaux 8 months ago
@KrisMayeaux
Schweitzer's finds were 70 million years old. About a billion other bones from the same strata were dated 70 million years old. NONE have been dated younger than 65 million. A few well preserved bones are found with microscopic "soft" tissue (no cells, no vessels, only outlines, and tiny traces of durable collagen, which is like plastic, & only got soft after 2 weeks in acid), & now dinos are young? No. The real question is "what was different about the preservation of these few?"
rockethead7 7 months ago
They spend way too much time talking about x-rays. Hmmm.
The tracks in the river bed are of a small dinosaur.
Funny how he discovered the human print just when he needed money.
gregrutz 8 months ago
What nonsense.
Cainkane1 8 months ago
WOW!! @o@ have you ANY idea how many properly dated, with a compliation of proven methods, fossils are in museums all around the world today? literally hundreds of thousands! an Some one just special scans one just one set of two foot prints NOT EVEN A SERIES OF FOOT PRINTS just one from each side and thats *cough* evidence of what!? I can't even get my words out and im fuckin typing!!! Stop making christians look stupid!!!! for the love of Abraham's God STOP!!! Who'd actually believe that!?
warangel87 9 months ago
looking for a video of the delk track debunked...i haven't been able to find, thanks
smoothpeople33 9 months ago in playlist Spiritual/ Religious/ ParaNrml - forTRUTH
@smoothpeople33 The guy who bought it is known for making fake evidence. He just learned from his mistakes and didn't let scientists access his lastest "discovery".
It's just another lie to make sure that people give money to the church.
ivanlagrossemoule 8 months ago
tell you something, if there were humans living with dinosaurs
then i can tell you there was surely one less human after this track was made :D
NOM
casenova0 9 months ago
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This video is so ridiculous. Did dinosaurs and humans coexist? No: happystatemachine.blogspot.com/2011/04/did-dinosaurs-and-humans-coexist.html
happystatemachine 10 months ago
Isn't it funny that so many people who consider themselves "Christians" post to YouTube and show not one particle of compassion or respect for others in their replies? What's wrong here?
uncleezra1 11 months ago
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@uncleezra1 there is no invisible man in the sky
thoostorm4 10 months ago
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Cryptozoology novel about two boys who find something strange on the beach one night see video book trailer
dltanner99 11 months ago
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Cryptozoology novel about two boys who find something strange on the beach one night see video book trailer
dltanner99 11 months ago
@112291514
Oh, and:
Yeah, fuck you. And, fuck you again. I just fucking proved you wrong, you took a few days to go look it up and found that you were DEAD FUCKING WRONG, and I was right.
What were your prior words? A snottyass "fun fact" that the sphere and circle were the same word in Hebrew? Right, and after I call you on this fucking LIE, and point out the correct words, what is your reply? "Oh, well, we don't have to take it literally, and it doesn't say it's flat."
Yes, fuck you.
rockethead7 11 months ago
@112291514
Yes, the bible's magic... take it literally for all things convenient... if it's been proven wrong, it was just metaphore or poetry. Nice. You have the benefit of making it say whatever YOU want. Meanwhile, it also talks about trees/mountains tall enough to see the entire Earth (not possible with a sphere). Oh, but THAT is metaphore, right? Dragons and unicorns, metaphore. Magic men who walk on water, literal. Right?
Yeah, you're another fuckpig far beyond hope. I'm done wiht you.
rockethead7 11 months ago
IF this magical Bible book was inspired by the allpowerful allknowing creator of everything, you'd think the fucking dude could make a book that is NOT subject to so much interpretation and metaphore. You do know that the church VOTED on Jesus' status as a god or prophet (which is all he ever claimed to be), right? You do know the bible's books were VOTED on, right? What happened to the book where Judas was the good guy? Voted out.
The bible requires VOTING? If I was a god, I could do better.
rockethead7 11 months ago
@112291514
You say fun fact? Sphere and circle were the same word? Um, no.
Isaiah 40:22 called the world "gh" (which means round flat disk, like a CD). The Hebrew word "rwd" means sphere (but it wasn't used to describe Earth). And, yes, "rwd" did exist in other Hebrew texts from the same period.
You WANT to believe that the authors of the bible thought the world was a sphere, but, nope, sorry fucktwit, they thought it was FLAT, covered by a crystal dome, and the sun/stars revolved around.
rockethead7 11 months ago
@112291514 Read the first page of the bible and tell me the men who wrote it didn't think the earth was the center of everything. The sun moved and the earth didn't. Everyone thought that 2000 years ago.
gregrutz 11 months ago
@gregrutz
Sigh, these stupid fucktwits unfortunately will NEVER listen to a word you say, or what I say. They've decided to re-write history. THAT is how far gone their brains are. Beyond the point of no return. Baked. Fried on religion. Worse than drugs.
The bible's authors thought the Earth is a flat disk, stands on pillars, covered by a crystal dome, and the sun/stars revolved around Earth. But, fucktwits rewrite history to say that "flat" and "sphere" were the same Hebrew word?? Um, no.!
rockethead7 11 months ago
Dear @korzon. For an additional secular perspective, read "The Galileo Legend" by Thomas Lessl, published in the New Oxford Review of June 2000. For instance, did you know that "in 1611, after Galileo published The Starry Messenger, the book which reports the discoveries he made with his telescope, the Vatican college in Rome honored him with a full day of festivities"? Fascinating stuff considering the supposed antithesis between the rationale of scientists and christian thinkers in history.
jeffreyontheway 11 months ago
Wow, this theropod had some SERIOUS flat feet.
Did the guy who carved this "fossil" get his inspiration from daffy duck?
chodaboy51500 11 months ago
I met Mr Delk a few years before he found this track. He was a close friend of my uncles. Mr Delk was just as amazed as any skeptic when he found this track, and was even skeptical about letting his discovery be known for quite some time. Before he found it, he himself doubted such a thing could exist.
Trappyhands 1 year ago
@Trappyhands
You met Alvis Delk? Wow, did you ask him about his history forging fake indian arrowheads, or why he does his "geology" in Paluxy with a convicted murderer? You met him BEFORE he "found" this miraculous track. Too bad. If you met him AFTERWARD, then you could have asked him why he sold it for $250 to a known fraudster like Carl Baugh instead of getting it authenticated by a university and making MILLIONS on the museum circuits (if found real).
In other words, yeah fucking right.
rockethead7 1 year ago
We have been taught that the theory of evolution was fact for so long that this thing is as extreme as finding out that the earth isn’t flat. Another idea that was disproven by Christians to the dismay of ‘accreted’ scientists of its time. Anyone who would dare go against the popular beliefs of that time could face execution. And would certainly be marked as dangerous lunatic. Not quite as bad as the post modern media fueled world… but almost.
Trappyhands 1 year ago
@Trappyhands
About going against popular beliefs and facing execution, yeah, like when Galileo was locked up for life (and threatened death) by the church for saying that the Earth revolves around the sun, against the biblical teachings. You're right, the church has quite a history of that.
Good thing SCIENCE doesn't do that. Science changes all the time. Science takes in new knowledge willingly. Only RELIGION persecutes/kills people for going against dogma.
rockethead7 1 year ago
@rockethead7 The bible doesn't teach the contrary give me the verse.It was ignorant men it had nothing to do with GOD He said the planets and stars are perfect in their alignments He made no specific mention to what they were.He also explained how the moon stops the sea from going onto the land in a sense.But the thing you are speaking of I never heard just give me the verse and I stand corrected if not youre wrong.
korzon 1 year ago
@korzon Isaiah 40 : 22-24
“He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers.”
I can draw a circle on a flat piece of paper, they are 2D. FLAT.
The men who wrote the bible thought the earth was flat and the canter of the solar system. The christians put Galileo under house arrest when he proved them and the bible wrong.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@korzon
You are truly sick. Your mind is so warped, it's really unfathomable. You read that fucking ridiculous 2000 year old folklore book written by ancient idiots as if it's a center of knowledge. Meanwhile, it talks about the earth being on pilars, being unmoving, etc. And, there are NO references to the Earth being a sphere. It says 2-dimensional "round" (like a CD). It never uses the 3-dimensional word for sphere which DID exist. And, it talks about a crystal dome that the stars hang from.
rockethead7 1 year ago
@Trappyhands
So, let's see, a ridiculous looking obviously carved track by a known forger of indian arrowheads, and found with a convicted murderer, and sold to fraudster Carl Baugh,
vs.
Over a billion documented and peer reviewed fossils, NEVER finding man in the same strata as dino, or dino as trilobite, etc., plus irrefutable DNA evidence in the form of ERV patterns, adavisms, chromosomal matching, cytochrome-C patterns, mitochondrial DNA, etc.
Which to believe, which to believe....
rockethead7 1 year ago
1. The dinosaur track does not show claws.
2. The human track shows a small big toe which made too deep an impression.
This is not even a good fake.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Fake, the dinosaur track does not have claws, the human big toe is to small and too deep.
gregrutz 1 year ago
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@gregrutz "Fake, the dinosaur track does not have claws, the human big toe is to small and too deep"
Ya stupid sonofabitch. Maybe you need to go tell the State of TEXAS that they have established a park based on fakes! HAR HAR HAR
YOU are an IDIOT
MaximusArurealius 1 year ago
Fake. The big toe is too deep and the middle toes are too long. The dinosaur track has no claw marks. Not even a good fake.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz OH BULLshit. You're not an authority. All you do is troll and make stupid remarks.
MaximusArurealius 1 year ago
@MaximusArurealius and what are you doing dip shit. Learning about fossils?
I can comment on crap like this if I want to.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Oh don't cry grunty. Did I tell you that you couldn't make ignorant, stupid, asinine remarks? Certainly not, far be it from me to suppress your freedom of idiocy. GO right ahead and pretend you know your ass from a hole in the ground asshole.
MaximusArurealius 1 year ago
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gregrutz 1 year ago