its funny how some people never forgave wrestling for being fake and spent the rest of their lives hating it and shitting on it. All the while being ashamed of their past love of wrestling. Movies are fake too but nobody does a news expose on how the terminator isnt real
why is this news, in 1989 or any year since lou thesz held a strap. every1 knows the iron sheik would be that hollywood blond jabroni hulk hooo-gan iin a 'real' fight
Why is this always the debate..where is the debate about phantom of the opera and Rent the musical. I hope the next broadway show someone goes to they spend the whole time thinking about the actors motivation!
@bobyard123 at the time this was news. this was one of the biggest moments in the history of wrestling. people kind of knew but this is when vince broke the code of silence.
@xorn96 the idea wasn't so much that it wasn't real but that the WWF was breaking an old code of silence. also, if you see how the crowd acted back then you can see how real some thought it was
Maybe if the business were still regulated by athletic commissions, we would not have seen so many deaths over the past two decades.
Yes, it is entertainment, but it is athletic entertainment. Therefore, I think it should still be regulated. Human lives are more important than money.
@JoeySymphony totally agree even if pro wrestling isn't a legitimate sport like boxing and mma it's still dangerous, they put their lives at risk every night to entertain the fans regulation and a union will offer greater protection to wrestlers and would prevent some of the tragic deaths that have occured over the past couple of years happening.
@JoeySymphony that's just bullshit. Then they would have to start regulating plays because they use there bodies too? You can't keep a fake play regulated by a bullshit athletic commision unless like I said, I fucked your mother up the keester, that's gangsta for ass.
Oh come on, lol; common sense tells you that two grown men can't possibly "beat" the holy hell out of each other and still be able to do it all the same way the very next day. Do you really need to analyze video tape? Whoever didn't know it was fake was either incredibly blind or the wrestler was just so damn good at his craft.
Michael Hayes looked like he just snorted coke smoked crack and drank Jack Daniels all night and says "they come down and take our blood pressure, we know we're healthy" lol. Not to mention the roids lol. Healthy? yea rite
what a COCKhead the reporter is at the start "they act as if it were real" thats the whole artform of acting lol, thats like watching a film and saying woah these ACTORS are ACTING as if it were real, who'd of thort that hey, i thort they might have the script in there hand, and the director might pop his head in the shot and give a little wink and a wave....fuck me if i had a dog as dumb as this reporter i'd drown it.
Jim Wilson fromer wrestler? of what company or territory AWA? WCCW? Georgia Championship? sure hell wasn't WCW or The World Wrestling Federation never heard of that jabroni!
@Keepitgreasy11 That guy has been in several documentaries bashing wrestling in one way or another. Ive seen him talk about how fake it is, drug abuse, and even claimed he was sexually harrassed. Ive never seen him or heard of him other than these docs he appears in. He claimed Mcmahon blackballed him from the business. With all the backstage politics goin on who knows.
McMahon only said it was fake so he wouldn't have to pay all the fees and taxes that other sports have to pay. As far as wrestling goes it doesn't change a thing!
This is why older generations today think of pro wrestling as a big joke: because they grew up in an era when it was presented as legitimate. During the Sammartino days journalists regularly slammed and poked fun at wrestling. Yet it took real pressure for Mcmahon to actually come out and say 'its fake'. Everyone thought it would kill the business but where wrestling lost in how it could be presented it gained massively in money, revenue, audiences. It's paradoxically good and bad for the sport
wrestling aint fake it's scripted that means : yes when you hit a guy you don't actully hit him. the ring is made out of wood..that means that you are being slammed into wood and that hurts. Brock lesnar had a ring in his backyard and some fans got to try it out with him..they even filmed it. and the fans well..lets just say that..there dreams of becoming wrestlers are over.
Fake implies that no one gets hurt. IT is such an incorrect word to use. Speaking as someone who is training to be a pro wrestler, man, there's no way to fake hitting that mat. It sends a pain down your spine, and all you can do is get up and continue the match. There's no stunt doubles, there's no special effects, it's far from fake. Pre-determined? Yes. Ask Don King though if Boxing was ever staged...
I resent calling wrestling fake. Entertainment? Absolutely. But the injuries and the wear and tear of being on the road 300days a year is REAL. Just ask Hulk Hogan how his knees are doing or Arn Anderson how his neck is doing. They might not be hitting each other their hardest but they are still hitting each other and calling pro wrestling fake I think is insulting. You can call it scripted for sure and predtermined but not fake.
I used to love wrestling as a kid and still find delight in watching old footage of my boyhood favourite wrestlers. Of course there are dangers involved when you got huge guys throwing themselves around but for fucks sake there is no argument. Of course its fake. I mean come does it really look like they are punching each other and if they really were with men of that size the injuries would be horrendous. Broken jaws etc.
Wow! This story shocked the world! The pro wrestling business fell to its knees and never regained its pupularity! That's sarcasm...Boy...great comments from the "wrestling expert" who explained how "cushioned" the mat is and how the guy "pushed off with his hand" and then "fell into his hands"...geeze...really bad story
I don't see anything fake about being on the road nearly all year and landing on your back every night to the point where your backs aches constantly.
leave it to kittenready to make things clear,if wrestling was real all matches would last two mins,both men would be badly hurt,and both careers would be over.wrestling is entertainment,wrestlers are pro stuntmen,owen and doz are sad accidents,nuff said.
Well after wat happened to Eddie Gurerro, Rick Rude and guys like that maybe doctors checking wrestlers before every match isnt such a bad idea after all
cmon guys, as a fellow pro wrestling fan like all of you reading this are, did albano embarrass you to be a fan by trying to kayfabe a NATIONAL TV AUDIENCE by saying when he wrestled bruno sammarntino he lost because he 'wasnt a good wrestler?"..GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!!! im probably the biggest pro wrestling fan on earth, but he really gave us a bad name when he pulled that shit and he actually embarassed himself
Really though, it's only WWE that "outed" themselves at the time. It was only by default that everyone claimed all pro wrestling was "fake." Go to an indy event and see all the stuff that WWE doesn't do. The athletic commission (if the state has one) will be there. A doctor, too.
Is figure skating fake? Or any other occupation, as the issue has nothing to do with that:
that wrestlers behaviour was out of line but not "irrational". The only thing irrational was a little reporter repeating a provocative word to a guy that much taller and stronger. That really was irrational.
But maybe those reporters cannot distinguish between "irrational" and "acceptable" and "good" just as they can't distinguish between "fake" and "show" and "scripted".
As mentioned Owen and Droz. How about all these wrestlers dying at an early age? Vince just laughed all the way to the bank with the government's ignorance to the industry. Maybe some wrestlers would be alive today if the government paid more attention to what's going on in the industry. It's funny seeing this over a decade later and how things are now. Mick Foley on ABC shows people have to regulate some of this stuff.
he does while the movies going on they do when the cameras are on its like ali g he never laeves charecter wrestlers dont laeve their charecters either but in real life theyare diff just like all other entertainment
its funny how some people never forgave wrestling for being fake and spent the rest of their lives hating it and shitting on it. All the while being ashamed of their past love of wrestling. Movies are fake too but nobody does a news expose on how the terminator isnt real
TheDrewagoosa 3 weeks ago
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"the matt is very cushioned" It bloody wasn't. WWF had a reputation for the hardest rings in the business.
DrJReefer 1 month ago
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"the matt is very cushioned" It bloody wasn't. WWF had a reputation for the hardest rings in the business.
DrJReefer 1 month ago
"the matt is very cushioned" It bloody wasn't. WWF had a reputation for the hardest rings in the business.
DrJReefer 1 month ago
It's not FAKE. there is nothing fake about the pain you feel when a 250lb man gets slammed into wooden boards.
It's FIXED.
DrJReefer 1 month ago
its not fake at all
matthew12358 1 month ago
Is wrestling really fake?
TheJukeboxjim 1 month ago
@TheJukeboxjim no of cource not
matthew12358 1 month ago
Soooooon.... Oooof..... aaaaaa BITCH!!!!
octasian 2 months ago
stossels asking questions that are in fact statements. very professional stossel no wonder you got bitch slapped.
TheBigGuyBGY 3 months ago
why is this news, in 1989 or any year since lou thesz held a strap. every1 knows the iron sheik would be that hollywood blond jabroni hulk hooo-gan iin a 'real' fight
alrussell1985 4 months ago
Why is this always the debate..where is the debate about phantom of the opera and Rent the musical. I hope the next broadway show someone goes to they spend the whole time thinking about the actors motivation!
thetimedshow 5 months ago
the death of Kayfabe
Speakup84 5 months ago
it's not fake, it's scripted lol. They do get hurt sometimes
allxtar 7 months ago
@allxtar Movies are fake
DelinquentBilly 2 months ago
ook kool
bobyard123 7 months ago
i kown it fack you dont have 2 be smart 2 no
bobyard123 8 months ago
@bobyard123 at the time this was news. this was one of the biggest moments in the history of wrestling. people kind of knew but this is when vince broke the code of silence.
Nertrender 7 months ago
Michael Hayes what a fkn wetard lol.healthy,only jacked up on cocaine 24/7 back then lmao tff
Budsmoker72 8 months ago
THis is so stupid. I think everyone with a 5 IQ would have known it wasn't real. What a bunch of bullshit. The media is full of shit.
xorn96 8 months ago
@xorn96 the idea wasn't so much that it wasn't real but that the WWF was breaking an old code of silence. also, if you see how the crowd acted back then you can see how real some thought it was
Nertrender 7 months ago
Maybe if the business were still regulated by athletic commissions, we would not have seen so many deaths over the past two decades.
Yes, it is entertainment, but it is athletic entertainment. Therefore, I think it should still be regulated. Human lives are more important than money.
JoeySymphony 9 months ago
@JoeySymphony totally agree even if pro wrestling isn't a legitimate sport like boxing and mma it's still dangerous, they put their lives at risk every night to entertain the fans regulation and a union will offer greater protection to wrestlers and would prevent some of the tragic deaths that have occured over the past couple of years happening.
TribalSolider 7 months ago
@JoeySymphony that's just bullshit. Then they would have to start regulating plays because they use there bodies too? You can't keep a fake play regulated by a bullshit athletic commision unless like I said, I fucked your mother up the keester, that's gangsta for ass.
chrisis138 6 months ago
At 3:43 Did the Fool just say Roller derby not a sport?!!!!!!
Se7enBeatleofDoom 9 months ago
im shocked wrestling even made it to the news like this way back then
superstar7even 9 months ago
Oh come on, lol; common sense tells you that two grown men can't possibly "beat" the holy hell out of each other and still be able to do it all the same way the very next day. Do you really need to analyze video tape? Whoever didn't know it was fake was either incredibly blind or the wrestler was just so damn good at his craft.
Paulino1025 10 months ago
Michael Hayes looked like he just snorted coke smoked crack and drank Jack Daniels all night and says "they come down and take our blood pressure, we know we're healthy" lol. Not to mention the roids lol. Healthy? yea rite
tonypanz 10 months ago
In 1983 California made $63,000 of wrestling? In 1988, $400,000. I bet if you got back to 1953, that 1988 amount if easily surpassed
eslubin 11 months ago
James Walker, John Stossel and Jim Wilson can go to hell.
gamehound83 1 year ago
what a COCKhead the reporter is at the start "they act as if it were real" thats the whole artform of acting lol, thats like watching a film and saying woah these ACTORS are ACTING as if it were real, who'd of thort that hey, i thort they might have the script in there hand, and the director might pop his head in the shot and give a little wink and a wave....fuck me if i had a dog as dumb as this reporter i'd drown it.
ant8tfive 1 year ago
why am i even listening to this video. wrestling is awsome either way......welll back in the 80s
bosko485 1 year ago
This is like an Onion sketch..
"BREAKING NEWS! WRESTLING IS SCRIPTED!"
Aivottaja 1 year ago
LMAO!!! at the guy the said "its real fake"
hoopdoop71 1 year ago
Jim Wilson fromer wrestler? of what company or territory AWA? WCCW? Georgia Championship? sure hell wasn't WCW or The World Wrestling Federation never heard of that jabroni!
Keepitgreasy11 1 year ago
@Keepitgreasy11 I'd say he was just a jobber.
MrClawmaster 11 months ago
@Keepitgreasy11 That guy has been in several documentaries bashing wrestling in one way or another. Ive seen him talk about how fake it is, drug abuse, and even claimed he was sexually harrassed. Ive never seen him or heard of him other than these docs he appears in. He claimed Mcmahon blackballed him from the business. With all the backstage politics goin on who knows.
tonypanz 10 months ago
"The mat is very cusioned"... He's never bumped in the rings I wrestle in!
jerryreiner 1 year ago 6
McMahon only said it was fake so he wouldn't have to pay all the fees and taxes that other sports have to pay. As far as wrestling goes it doesn't change a thing!
callmebruce5 1 year ago
That Richard Floyd in the video looks just like Dick Cheney.
Salavat23 1 year ago 3
Wrestling is real
2pacisthebest90 2 years ago
oldschool u a retard plain and simple u must b a child dont waste my time by respondin back
joncrack187 2 years ago
This is why older generations today think of pro wrestling as a big joke: because they grew up in an era when it was presented as legitimate. During the Sammartino days journalists regularly slammed and poked fun at wrestling. Yet it took real pressure for Mcmahon to actually come out and say 'its fake'. Everyone thought it would kill the business but where wrestling lost in how it could be presented it gained massively in money, revenue, audiences. It's paradoxically good and bad for the sport
bpatrice49 2 years ago
wrestling might be fake but by comparison its more real than movies, and tv shows we watch...and definately more real than the bible!
bloodlustsatan 2 years ago
vince mcmahon said in the real story of wrestling "this business has and always will be about entertainment
slezy108 2 years ago
was that michael hayes along with junkyard dogg? double elbowing someone?
megaman2160 2 years ago
yep
wwfnews818 2 years ago
Ahhh, the good ole' days when this was the worst thing the news said about pro wrestling.
B3WorldPictures 2 years ago 9
Wrestling aint fake. im gonna tell you how :
wrestling aint fake it's scripted that means : yes when you hit a guy you don't actully hit him. the ring is made out of wood..that means that you are being slammed into wood and that hurts. Brock lesnar had a ring in his backyard and some fans got to try it out with him..they even filmed it. and the fans well..lets just say that..there dreams of becoming wrestlers are over.
cmd1995 2 years ago
they do hit them you're a liar! most matches are planned!
oldschool6804 2 years ago
they barley connect, do you really think that after 5-6 big shots from Tiple H that your still gonna be standing? don't think so.
but they do connect BARLEY but they do but they kinda pull it away in the last second to make the hit weaker.
cmd1995 2 years ago
you're aliar they connect hard i have seen vader swell guys eyes shut it isn't fake!
oldschool6804 2 years ago
lol how old are you 8?
if Triple H would hit a guy 5 times with shots like that, the guy would be knocked out for sure.
cmd1995 2 years ago
i'm not eight you dumb motherfucker, they hit each other, i have seen the film when vaer swelled guys eyes shut.
oldschool6804 2 years ago
Hold the presses. "Wrestling's not really wrestling," that's hilarious.
thenegotiator3 3 years ago 4
Fake implies that no one gets hurt. IT is such an incorrect word to use. Speaking as someone who is training to be a pro wrestler, man, there's no way to fake hitting that mat. It sends a pain down your spine, and all you can do is get up and continue the match. There's no stunt doubles, there's no special effects, it's far from fake. Pre-determined? Yes. Ask Don King though if Boxing was ever staged...
SenseiV1 3 years ago
there are ways of falling without getting hurt. go study some real wrestling like jujitsu
anusmcshitswab 2 years ago
@anusmcshitswab
Do it enough time without rest and even the safest kind of landing will create damages eventually
Can't fake gravity
SolidMike84 1 year ago
LOL, Piper!
dsriggs 3 years ago
man piper was really kayfabin' hardcore
akuma4u 3 years ago
Hayes: "We know we're healthy"
Nothing could have been further from the truth for a lot of wrestlers in all honesty.
jlward 3 years ago
I resent calling wrestling fake. Entertainment? Absolutely. But the injuries and the wear and tear of being on the road 300days a year is REAL. Just ask Hulk Hogan how his knees are doing or Arn Anderson how his neck is doing. They might not be hitting each other their hardest but they are still hitting each other and calling pro wrestling fake I think is insulting. You can call it scripted for sure and predtermined but not fake.
foleynj86 3 years ago 5
hold on why was the wwf never in new jersey from 1989-1997
bringbackpridefc 3 years ago
lol all this was to make fun of wrestling fans who traditionally were not born with daddys as lawyers like the news reporters
bringbackpridefc 3 years ago
I remember this. I even had it on a VHS tape.
acehighpat 4 years ago
why is every news story about wrestling reported by a man or woman who has obviously never watched wrestling and knows nothing about it?
razoramon989 4 years ago 4
IT'S STILL REAL TO ME, DAMNIT!
magnificent666 4 years ago 21
i like how the promoters had to reveal it was fake..like everyone thought a guy could fight with broken ribs..hahahahahahhahahaah fkn fake ass shit!
082076 4 years ago
That must be why they stopped having blood in WCW/NWA around 1989. I always wondered what prompted that decision.
RichieEastside 4 years ago
lmao ditka, true dat shit
rob2122 4 years ago
6:37 looks like a dusche bag
Ditkafan1909 4 years ago
I used to love wrestling as a kid and still find delight in watching old footage of my boyhood favourite wrestlers. Of course there are dangers involved when you got huge guys throwing themselves around but for fucks sake there is no argument. Of course its fake. I mean come does it really look like they are punching each other and if they really were with men of that size the injuries would be horrendous. Broken jaws etc.
goochie333 4 years ago
yes they do really punch each other i have seen guys with black eyes and brokeen noses!
oldschool6804 2 years ago
wrestling is fake is scripted
topdinero 2 years ago
Wow! This story shocked the world! The pro wrestling business fell to its knees and never regained its pupularity! That's sarcasm...Boy...great comments from the "wrestling expert" who explained how "cushioned" the mat is and how the guy "pushed off with his hand" and then "fell into his hands"...geeze...really bad story
traditionalwrestling 4 years ago
its not fake its rehearsed...
JoeyPencils 4 years ago
I don't see anything fake about being on the road nearly all year and landing on your back every night to the point where your backs aches constantly.
wwejohn126 4 years ago 3
Holy Shit!!! The Warlord cut a promo??? I never knew that guy even spoke!!! (0:13).
chessarama 4 years ago
its staged, not fake, theres a difference
YankeesSuck462 4 years ago
less than 5 years later and its up 26.7 million thats nuts
akuma4u 4 years ago
leave it to kittenready to make things clear,if wrestling was real all matches would last two mins,both men would be badly hurt,and both careers would be over.wrestling is entertainment,wrestlers are pro stuntmen,owen and doz are sad accidents,nuff said.
kittenready 4 years ago
Well after wat happened to Eddie Gurerro, Rick Rude and guys like that maybe doctors checking wrestlers before every match isnt such a bad idea after all
jtrules1 4 years ago
wow what a bunch retards it took them that long to figure out that its just entertainment.
vitorshaolin 5 years ago
cmon guys, as a fellow pro wrestling fan like all of you reading this are, did albano embarrass you to be a fan by trying to kayfabe a NATIONAL TV AUDIENCE by saying when he wrestled bruno sammarntino he lost because he 'wasnt a good wrestler?"..GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!!! im probably the biggest pro wrestling fan on earth, but he really gave us a bad name when he pulled that shit and he actually embarassed himself
mcdermott07 5 years ago
BTW, was Michael Hayes coked up, or what?
BMSeditor 5 years ago
Really though, it's only WWE that "outed" themselves at the time. It was only by default that everyone claimed all pro wrestling was "fake." Go to an indy event and see all the stuff that WWE doesn't do. The athletic commission (if the state has one) will be there. A doctor, too.
BMSeditor 5 years ago
Only the WWF outed itself but that doesn't mean that AWA or NWA were "real" (in the sense of not scripted). They just liked to pretend.
mainsqueeze1977 4 years ago
who was this champ that bitchslapped that girl? anyone know?
akuma4u 5 years ago
And why do they call the behaviour irrational?
I don't condone it but it was a rational reaction to someone calling you "fake".
mainsqueeze1977 4 years ago
Well isn't it fake? That's what this whole report is about.
junkfoodlawsuit 4 years ago
Is figure skating fake? Or any other occupation, as the issue has nothing to do with that:
that wrestlers behaviour was out of line but not "irrational". The only thing irrational was a little reporter repeating a provocative word to a guy that much taller and stronger. That really was irrational.
But maybe those reporters cannot distinguish between "irrational" and "acceptable" and "good" just as they can't distinguish between "fake" and "show" and "scripted".
mainsqueeze1977 4 years ago
It was a guy called David Shultz.
mainsqueeze1977 4 years ago
As mentioned Owen and Droz. How about all these wrestlers dying at an early age? Vince just laughed all the way to the bank with the government's ignorance to the industry. Maybe some wrestlers would be alive today if the government paid more attention to what's going on in the industry. It's funny seeing this over a decade later and how things are now. Mick Foley on ABC shows people have to regulate some of this stuff.
416Smugglaz 5 years ago
keanu reeves doesnt claim 2b neo he jus plays as him wrestlers claim 2 b actually wrestling
tczero 5 years ago
he does while the movies going on they do when the cameras are on its like ali g he never laeves charecter wrestlers dont laeve their charecters either but in real life theyare diff just like all other entertainment
jblive1985 3 years ago
dont you just want to smack everyone in the video just for saying wrestling is fake ?
fate67456434 5 years ago
Also, I heard the Matrix is also fake! Keanu Reeves ISN'T REALLY called Neo!
Sener 5 years ago
if wrestling were real, it wouldnt be nearly as good or popular, and i dont care about what any of these dumbfucks say, its still a sport.
ericperillo 5 years ago
So are sitcoms and movies and people watch them also. So what's your point?
czwrefsteven 5 years ago
amen, brother!!! I am so sick and tired of people saying "wrestling is fake"
doodoobrown58 5 years ago
it's half and half really
Ask Owen or Droz if it's fake
michiyoyoshiku 5 years ago
If it weren't fake it would be lame.
Vesselboy 5 years ago