so fake. I say we let the Earth Language evolve NATURALLY, then it will be SO fucking awesome and intuitive. It will be perfect! Language is constantly evolving people!!! Yes! ^-^
Esperanto isnt meant to be the natural evolution of any language. It's sole purpose is to be used as a tool. Much like any other mechanism that helps communicate with others most effectively.
My combination of 2 years of elementary school Spanish, 3 years of middle school French and 15 years of natural English is helping me pick out some of the root words... I think I am going to try to learn this.
@bradfordbulls4lyf It is not meant to be a native or first language... it is meant to be an auxillary (secornd,third) language for everyone. However, there are some people that were brought up in a house with esperanto speaking parents and spoke it at home, and therefore are fluent. And there are over 900 ROOT words which can be expanded to tens of thousands of words using the many prefixes, affixes ,and compounding ...
The reason it sounds like most european languages is because they're derived from latin isn't it? That's the reason traditional schooling included latin, I believe. To quote Eddie Izzard's teacher, it gives you an underlying knowledge of the european languages.
For most of you, english speakers, esperanto might sound a lot like english. I speak spanish, and it sounds a loooot like spanish...
Now, if you consider the initial pourpose of this language, it's meeting all its expectations. It's trying to be international, and it's actually getting to that point.
It sounds like spanish to me, it sounds like english to you guys... i bet it sounds like italian to the romans.
It's meant to be the second language in all the countries around the world...
Native English speaker who's studied Spanish. To me, it doesn't look a thing like English. It defo looks more like Spanish, which is probably a good thing. Seeing as how Spanish has rules that are much more consistent. If it weren't for conjugating those danged verbs, Spanish would be a great international language!
@vargaspablo82 I've played a bit with La Puzlo Esperanto on Lernu!, and the only thing that feels English to me is word order in a sentence. Well, that and the fact that the third-person singular feminine pronoun ("she") is pronounced the same way.
I'm not fluent in Esperanto by any means, but this is my experience so far.
Whoa, Esperanto verbs are somewhat like Japanese ones: veeeeeeeeeery simple.
And I mean SIMPLE. Take Portuguese (my native language) as an example.
But I think this international language thing is useless now. There's English. Alright, I know I say it cause it's easier for me cause I already know English, but hey! It's fairly (unlike Mandarin, the most spoken language in the world) easy and a LOT of people speak it! \o/
japanese is not easy. It may seem simple because there is only past and non-past, but its confusing as hell not having a future tense or more accurate tenses like there are in Spanish. Also what the hell they most be the only ones who conjugate adjectives.
Hehe, i actually like it a lot, but if you have studied it you'll know what it feels like. And dont get me started on kanjis, seriously wtf were they thinking?!
el esperanto no es para "tontos", es para los que queremos un mejor mundo, igual que los que usamos linux, el esperanto tampoco suena más a un lenguaje que a otro, tiene elementos únicos que lo hacen una lengua aparte de las demás. Arriba el Esperanto!!!!
Esperanto isn't a language for dummies, it's a language 4 all us that want a better world, in the same way as all that use linux. Esperanto doesn't sound like another language. It has its own structure,and phonemas
lol, claro que si, nos gusta un mundo en que todos usan linux y hablan Esperanto. Pero no estoy completemente de acuerdo cuando Ud. dice que esperanto no suena como las otras linguas. A mi, suena como un poco de Italia, un poco de Espanol, y un poco de Franca. Feliz Ano Nuevo, mi amigo!! (Espero que mi espanol no esta demasiado horrible)
I don't like this ''language''. It's to much ''spanish'' / italian / portuguese / Catalan / French-ish ...I don't hear..or at least very very litle...germanic languages in it.
Therefore I can't take this ''language for all people'' serious..too bad cuz I like the idea of a global language for all (it would make things much easier...though.. kinda boring perhaps ;)
Esperanto may not have influences from every single language on Earth (all 2000+ of them)--that would be impossible--but it is simple and elegant, belongs to no single nation, and has its own international culture. It would allow for everyone to continue speaking their own language too, even if they speak a "minority" language.
That sounds like a language for all people to me, or as close as we can get!
that may true but it's exremely ugly..and who wants to speak an ''ugly'' language..well..I don't :) but that's just my opinion ofcourse....I can imagine you simply love this ..but I aint :)
oh, and btw..I still think it's waaayyyy to spanish a like
Well I think Chinese sounds ugly, and Dutch, for that matter. Arabic sounds like people are trying to clear their throats! The point I'm trying to make is that it's all subjective. What sounds beautiful to one person may sound ugly to another. Esperanto is elegant and easy to learn. What's more, it works.
Im a dutch girl, but i still think its a bit of a farmer-language! And german.. ughh :S that sounds even more retarded. And I agree with that arabic thingie :P
I do like Japanese and Esperanto, ofcourse. Yesterday morning I started learning Esperanto, kaj mi amidas Esperanto!
@TheMarcel85 That's not Spanish, that's Latin, and it's a VERY superficial complaint. The strength of the language is its simplicity and lack of exceptions, which makes it easy to learn for anyone. I've studied several languages, and the vocabulary is always the easiest part of it. The words could have been all made up (like other artificial languages before it) and it still would be easier to learn than any other language in the world.
I agree every country should just adopt Esperanto as their official language. I know easy to learn and mankind (at least for the most part) will no longer have a language barrier.
Well some ppl consider esperanto to be a new romance language but either way it doesnt change the fact that the romance languages are the most beautiful bc esperanto sounds nice also
The most beautiful language in the world by a wide margin is Arabic. It is also the language of of millions upon millions of verses of poetry .
Arabic is in a league of its own when it comes to nuance and beauty. That is because of the power of derivation that arabic uniquely posseses. Among the indoeurolanguages Farsi/Persian is without the most beautiful and sophisticated language, well ahead of the Romance langauges.
English is at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to beauty.
@modallas2 First of all, I respect your opinion. A while ago, I read a survey that said arabic has the most beautiful script, but it also said that Italian is the most beautiful sounding language. Sadly, when one thinks of beauty in sound arabic is not a popular answer. The CIA says that 4.88% of people in the world speak spanish while 3.12% speak arabic. You can see the popularity of these romance languages when you notice that the majority of conlangs (i.e. esperanto) has a romantic influence.
The reason there are spanish speakers is because of the colonization of latin america. The language spread there by force and colonization not because of its beauty.
Some arabic dialects sound fantastic while others did not. They can sound like completely different languages. The beauty of arabic though is not in how it sounds as much as how it "naturally" rhymes.
Esperanto would have been a good idea had it taken off. English is a major step backward for humanity.
@modallas2 Of course, but because there are so many people speaking spanish there is a high want for spanish speaking people in the job market. As for rhyming, the romance languages are one of the most rhythmic languages out there. In italian, spanish, and portuguese almost every word ends in an A, O, or E. Plus, italian speakers stress certain syllables in such a way that it sounds like they're singing.
Spanish and Arabic roughly have same number of native speakers worldwide. Spanish might be slighlty more. However, I would say more people are learning arabic (mostly for religeous reasons).
Romance languges are in deed rhyming. But no where near as arabic. To give you an idea i will throw in a factoid: One arab tribe chronicled its history in a 1 million verse musical rhyming epic poem. This is 150 times bigger than the Iliad of Homeros!
@modallas2 That is amazing! I do recognize that this topic is relative to a group of people only, in my case it would be english speakers. For example, spanish is a beautiful language relative to japanese people, arabic is a beautiful language relative to african people and many more, and i think hungarian is a beautiful language relative to romanians, etc. But really, if you google "worlds most beautiful language" french will be the answer that comes up the most followed by italian.
Hi. Arabic is beautiful because of hte incredible power of its derivation capability. Even christopher columbus called it the mother of all languages. It is all about how you can "construct" such powerful and nuanced meanings. Indo euro languages as a whole are severely lacking. The most powerful indoeuro language is Persian. Persian had to import 70% of its vocabulary from arabic and hack its grammer to be capable of the beautiful poetry it has. Still it is nowhere close to arabic.
@modallas2 What do you mean by "It is all about how you can "construct" such powerful and nuanced meanings."? because I believe any language is able to do this, especially in the far orient and sanskrit. And as for derivation are you speaking of agglutinative languages because I did not know arabic was considered one.
All languages are not capable of that. The average sentence in arabic will take a paragraph to translate in english. OK I will give you example how powerful and precise and concise. Arabic is based on 3 or 4 or 2 letter consonantal roots. People think in "roots" not in words. Nuanced meanings are derived from roots.
e.g. the 3 letter root "K T B" means "something related to writing". So let's start deriving ridiculous amounts of words:
@JRios270 Continuation of KTB derivations: taKaataba - enganged in a lengthy correspondence iKTuB - Commandment to write KiTaBaH - hand-writing. KuTTaB - Place to learn reading and writing KaaTeB - Cleric. Someone whose job is to write. maKTaBaH - Public Library .... so on. Now imagine this: You can keep deriving until tomorrow morning. And you can derive means that so precisely convey what you need, without having to expend enormous amount of energy explaining it!
Of course, Zamernof (Jewish) took the most powerful concept (consonontal roots, as found in semitic languages) and applied a very very mild version of it to esperanto.
Esperanto is an agglutinative language though. The tends to be very limiting in my opinion.
I still think though that esperanto is much better than english. The world would have been a 100 times better off had they adopted esperanto as the international language after world war II.
@modallas2 No offense or anything to anyone in this room, but I just dislike english in general. I feel very bad for all the people that had to struggle to learn it.
English is by far the most retarded language I can think of. Not only it is retarded, it is brittle, lacks warmth and simply lacks completely lacks beauty.
Imagine two italian ladies arguing with one another in the lyrical poetic language, then imagine a couple of American loudmouth angry bitches arguing with one another.
Which one would you rather listen to? The italian argument of course: Far more entertaining. You might as well be listening to Bocelli.
@modallas2 ROFLMBO!!!!! thats wat I say everyday to my american friends!!!! I mean honestly i think ghetto ppl have a better idea of how english should be written than the most intellectual.
@modallas2 I thought he took the agglutinative ideas from russian btw if we're going to continue this conversation we should take it somewhere else lol.
@modallas2 Latin: Scriba: Journalist Scriptorium: A place to write Scribere: to write Scriptum: writing, text Scrinium: something containing papers or books Scriptura: Composition of writing Circumscribere: to write around Transcribere: transcribe Inscribere: Inscribe
Yes Latin has a relatively decent derivation capabilities. But not the romance languages.
You always have to go back to latin, and then re-incorporate the word into the Romance language.
also latin derivation tends to involve way too many phonemes.
In arabic, derivation is at least an order of magnitude more powerful than it is in latin. That is how nuanced things get and that is why they have been trying (unsuccessfully lol) to translate the bible for the last 2000 years.
@modallas2 I, being a lover of languages, admire that greatly. I find that what you tell me does make arabic a very attractive language. All of its beauty concentrated visually and "mentally" if you get what I mean. My criteria for a beautiful language has always been auditory and it still is and it always will be. However, this does give me a perspective on what is beauty.
Indo european languages are two dimensional languages
Latin maybe 3 dimensional. However it achieves the third dimension at the expense of beauty of meaning. You can achieve some functionality and versatility. but not "beauty" out of the derivation process.
Persian is like 5 dimensional.
And arabic is something like 50 dimensional.
That is literally how precise and concise and eloquent it gets.
@modallas2 I see what you mean. So basically this whole discussion was pointless because we arguing over a subject the is so relative that we actually agreed on the same ideas?lol The ideas being that the romance languages are beautiful to the ear, but that arabic is beautiful to the eyes and "mind".
Actually, arabic is very beautiful to the ear too. Not just to mind, and the extra-terrestrial dimensions. Once you get over some consonants which sound awkward to the untrained european ear, you will discover that the language is 10 times more inherently musical than Italian. This comes from the fact that it has only 3 vowels. You can prolong words, shorten words, do all kinds of vowel acrobatics and still be understood!
@modallas2 italian will always be the most beautiful language to my ears because its the only language that I've heard that when spoken sounds like the speaker is speaking. However, I do like arabic music a lot. A friend of mines took arabic in HS and he gave me a song that is one of my favorite. I wanted to take the class also but i wasn't allowed to transfer to the class.
I love italian too. It is better than french in my ears. French is only beautiful when spoken by gorgeous females.
But I do agree with you though. Romance languages are in a league of their own when it comes to european languages.
Finnish and hungarian do sound quite musical to me (both non indoeuro lang) and prollific writer George Bernard Shaw thinks hungarian is in a league of its own when compared to English.
@modallas2 I actually never have heard hungarian before, I just youtubed it now and it sound beautiful. The writing looks very unique but in a good way lol. I have looked at the grammar and I must say it is one of the most highly inflected languages I have ever seen. Just the sight of it made me feel scared to learn it.
Arabic is ridiculously inflected. It is also ridiculously fusional. Not only this, you can strangely omit entire consonants in arabic and still be understood.
It is just like in english when you "Sup man?" meaning "What's up man?". You ommitted the entire "What" and you are still understood. Arabic is full of that kind of witchcraft but at least english is evolving in the right direction there.
its not really cool of making an ass out of urself all the time , who told you Gilaki and Farsi are just like french and english , huh? Do you want me to piss u off once more ? why u idiot jarabs don't respect yourself ?!!!
I think they are discussing esperanto here. I don't think this is the right place to give us an example of any mental condition you have.
French is relatively close to english vocabulary-wise. It is in the grammer where they differ a bit. Think of every word that ends with (e.g. "civilization" which you have very little of) and it comes from French.
Now, as they say in English English: "Bugger off".
hahaha loser , now french and english are somehow related !!!! but before , they were SOOOO different ! I'm not surprised ,u r another typical cultureless muAsslim jarab B.S er!
You are a fucktard. I won't respond to you. Even those with kindergarten education know that french and english are very strongly connected but also "different". No contradiction between the two. I don't remember though making any specific comments about the gilaki language. What a moron! ? We have a saying and it goes like this (The "name" perfectly matches the "named"). The name I chose for you ("diahrrea" rhymes with Darya) matches everything that comes out of your mouth.
what is your problem ,muAsslim ? tell me , why you wanted to see me again ? honestly ,I am not on that mood to *&%^ you tonight . you must be very thankful to me for all those information I shared with you and lighted up your dark and meaningless life . kiss my ass ,molladass
gilaki :زماتی که عربان به گیلان حمله بوگود,گیلان شاه برای بیرونا گودن تازیان و دفاع جه کیشور با سپاهیان گیلی و دیلمی و تالشی و دیگر قومان که زیر فرمان اون بون به جنگ عربان بوشو.
farsi :زمانی که جربان به گیلان حمله کردند،گیلان شاه،برای بیرون راندن تازیان و دفاع از کشور،با سپاهیان گیلی و دیلمی و تالشی و دیگر قومان که زیر فرمان او بودند،به جنگ جربان شتافت.
same grammar , similar words , LOL loser , keep B.S ing
We live in a european-centric world. That is why european languages will win the poll on the beautiful languages. French sounds beautiful to the ear. That doesn't mean the language is the most beautiful. I judge beauty by two criteria:
1) the ability to construct the most nuanced and rich meanings effortless (ie without writing entire paragraphs)
2) the ability to produce musical rhyming poetry.
It is in the above two departments where arabic is leaps and bounds ahead of the rest.
@modallas2 Any language can produce musical rhyming poetry, and for something to be beautiful it has to please the persons sense of hearing which as you said is what french does. As for 1 you would have to give me an example of how arabic surpasses every other language in that category.
I disagree that "any language can produce musical and rhyming poetry". It is not that easy.
A language like Arabic probably has produced 50 million couplets of perfectly rhyming powerful poetry. A language like english has not even produced 1% of that amount of MEDIOCRE poetry.
Every language has an inherent music that has to do with its voweling system. Generally, the more vowels that harder it is to produce music in the words, since the music is in the vowels.
@modallas2 Okay I agree with "the more vowels that harder it is to produce music in the words, since the music is in the vowels." However, thats what makes the romance languages so appealing the fact that there are a small amount of vowels, especially in italian with each word being accented almost the same thus giving it a musical sound. Latin:
Human languages are simply like cars: You have Tata Motors on the one end. And a Ferrari on the other end. I indoeuro languages are Tata Motors and languages that belong to other Families are the Ferraris.
Once you've tried a Ferrari, there aint no going back to Tata.
My problem with european language is that they are so similar in structure.
Nous, Nosotros
Vous, Vosotrous
Verb etre (verb to be) etc. Same fundamental core (engine). And its a two cylinder Tata engine
@modallas2 that because the romance languages are all evolved forms of latin. You can't expect a great difference if there isn't anything changing it.
English has verb "to be" . It works slightly differently in english. But it is the same concept as as Romance languages.
The only two indo-euro languages that stand out in poetry are Persian (where the impact of arabic on teh language is as big as the impact of latin in French) and Bengali. Both are so far away from europe.
@JRios270 Another powerful feature of arabic (Persian grammer had to be "hacked" to incorporate this) is complete interchangeability of subject verb object in teh sentence without adding confusion. Its like saying: Mark eats apple apple eats mark eat mark apple eat apple mark apple mark eat etc and somehow by sheer magic always being understood as Mark eats apple.
You need powerful inflection to be able to achieve that sort of thing. But when we do, poetry flows like a river! because simply there are so many ways of constructing the same sentence.
Not only does arabic have that, but it has wickedly powerful SVO omission capabilities for conciseness.
In fact, spanish copied arabic on its pronoun ommission. You don't have to say "Yo Quiero" in spanish. You can just say "Quiero" and be understood that it's the "Yo" who is doing the "Quieroing"
@modallas2 actually thats just a latin thing. In latin, instead of ego quaero they just said quaero lol. The spanish grammar is pure vulgar latin; however, Spanish does have arabic loanwords. The thing with the romance languages is that they were made by people who didn't like powerful inflection or inflection at all. The only inflection in the romance languages are in the pronouns, verbs, and there is minor inflection in the adjectives (except for romanian which has inflection in the nouns.)
you're probably right about the pronouns. But for some reason only spanish omits them but not French. So my mind immediately jumped to the arabic influence on spanish.
@modallas2 french and romanian to me are the strangest of the romance languages. Romanian has a strong slavic influence but it still retained its latin roots. French on the other hand i believe was changed when a group of invaders tried to corrupt their language (vulgar latin) so they're a bit weird. Actually, before I learned french and grew to love it; I always thought it sounded like people vomiting and having sex at the same time.
@modallas2 And i think I know what you mean by poetry flowing like a river. for example, there are many cases in spanish where the same vowel is used over and over again making it sound musical. A small example is this simple phrase
I am telling JRios. Arabic has a ridiculous amount of poetry. In bedouin arabic culture, when people used to go to court to plead their case, you had to deliver your argument "poetically" (i mean in perfectly rhyming prose) and people still did it as if it is normal day to day business. It's frickin unbelievable.
Still, there is this thing called debate poetry. Two poets stand up and debate with one another in perfectly improvsed poetry with a chorus clapping to the beat of the poem!
Also bear in mind this. Almost all indo-european language speakers who end up learning another language of another language family end up being fascinated by and loving the the new language far more than they love their indo-euro language.
Some people seem to think that the secret behind indo-european language spread is their appeal to least common denominator and their primitiveness. I totally agree. Just read what Bernard Shaw had to write about hungarian and its power.
Arabic has an easy alphabet to learn. There are only 3 vowels (a, o, e) and (aa, oo, ee). In other words long and short versions of the "a", "o", "e" sounds. The short vowels are often ommitted in the writing system because they can be easily inferred. This causes some confusion to people who learn the language. However, it is this relative "indifference" to vowels that makes the language so powerful and that makes the arabic language(s) so intelligible across vast distances.
Arabic has 28 letters. 25 consonants and 3 vowels. It has a very simple writing system. It is 3 to 4 times faster to write arabic than to write latin orthography. Once you figure it out, you will figure out the ingenuity of the near east and why they came to invent so many alphabetical system until the converged on the "perfect" orthography that is not only so fast to write but that has the most stunningly beautiful script of all the languages
I don't agree at all. Linux is hard to configure, you must learn how to compile sources and deal with logical devices. Instead, Esperanto is smooth and easy.
Nothing worse than a bunch Gnome and Linux Kernel geeks configuring and expanding Esperanto, no, thanks!
i'd love all people using esperanto, it's so easy and no accent, i dont understand why do we learn english, spanish, french and german. all of them if we all can study just one easy global language
i dont know if i was drunk or something, but i dont remember writing that comment. Anyway i'm sorry. I actually think that it is a great idea to have a global language that is easy to learn instead of english or chinese.
oh wait, i remember now. I was not calling you lazy. I was calling lazy everyone else that do not want to learn esperanto because they already speak english.
Esperanto would be the perfect language, IF it wasn't so ugly..I'm sorry but it's almost like Spanish in its way of forming words, which is in my honest opinion horrible. If it were to sound like English then it would be a perfect match.
I have nothing against english, but some english words are the ugliest I ever heard, like "Earth" in american accent.
Just imagine an alien asking a human where is he from and the answer comes as "Earth". The poor alien will think "Shit! What an horrible name for a planet!"
It's a personal opinion. It's like starting an argument about what food tastes best, it just doesn't happen be because taste is different.. And no, terra doesn't sound better imo.
Of course i know also many german, hungarian, spanish, finnish, swedish, american, and some african esperantist.
Problems of understanding : NONE
You was never in an esperantist meeting, so you are free to don't believe that, it's not my problem. If so many people still support Eo, this is why it works better than any other language used internationally, there is no doubt about that
Greetings
(PS, a high percentage of Eo is made by germanic words)
English is only a music, you say that a word has a pronunciation, but when you put it in a long sentence the pronunciation changes almost always.
Generally you cannot understand where a word starts and where it finishes, that's why nobody who studied english can understand native english and has to SPEND time and money to learn, and thousand hours to watch movies.
I can write-read english but i don't understand movies, and don't want to watch them in english
I can imagine that hearing the individual words is hard if your native language is not closely related to the English language(i.e Germanic language). Though I do not believe that it's so hard to learn it and also, money can't control everything right?
And for that matter Esperanto is like that for people which speaks a Germanic language, it just looks like randomly placed characters honestly.
My aunt are quite rich so my cousin could go to UK and USA to learn better english. 3000-4000€ for 10 days (!!). My parents couldn't do it.
But i really liked languages so i learnt and i work in English, since the most is written language, but i can't understand movies.
I know germans/english... who learnt quickly to distinguish italian words; i cannot talk good polish but quicly learnt to distinguish the very hard polish words even polish isnt latin lang.
This clip oversimplifies a bit: simple past "I laughed" "Mi ridis" progressive past "I was laughing" "mi estis ridanta" or "mi ridantis" perfect "I have laughed" "me estas ridinta" or "mi ridintas" pluperfect "I had laughed" "me estis ridinta" or "mi ridintis" past imperfective (rather rare, not present in English) "I was in the habit of laughing" "me ridadis"
I know, i'm just trying to keep it simple... and as i can see now, too simple =/ kk. you'll get more (and better) videos soon. I just have some problems with my video editor... and school as well =(
Bonko is a minimalistic language with 100 root-words and 14 letters. Root words can be combined to form more complex thoughts. Bonko is a language based on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis which state "the language a person speaks determines how a person understands the world and behave in it". Bonko has simple, yet logical root words. The word "light" also means "heat" because light gives off heat.
so fake. I say we let the Earth Language evolve NATURALLY, then it will be SO fucking awesome and intuitive. It will be perfect! Language is constantly evolving people!!! Yes! ^-^
wisesakura 3 months ago
@wisesakura
Esperanto isnt meant to be the natural evolution of any language. It's sole purpose is to be used as a tool. Much like any other mechanism that helps communicate with others most effectively.
anikorising 4 weeks ago
aj i in fine; the long i sound in English ej ay in bay; the long a sound in English oj oy in boy
1monki 6 months ago
The vowel + j at the end of words are diphthongs
1monki 6 months ago
uj something like the oo-y in "too-young" (as one word)
1monki 6 months ago
My combination of 2 years of elementary school Spanish, 3 years of middle school French and 15 years of natural English is helping me pick out some of the root words... I think I am going to try to learn this.
XxAmericanLedxX 6 months ago
@irishdude69
It's pronounced like a "Y".
SAOS451316 6 months ago
if the 'j' is at the end do u pronounce it or is it silent?
irishdude69 6 months ago
love the music
abeastusername5 8 months ago
@Pyxco
ho ve! mi vidis unu eraron... ne estas tarotkaroj sed tarotkartoj. Tre bone tamen. :D
alejandro31192 8 months ago
i wonder how people can use this as a first language with only 900 words un like english which has 40,000+
bradfordbulls4lyf 9 months ago
@bradfordbulls4lyf It is not meant to be a native or first language... it is meant to be an auxillary (secornd,third) language for everyone. However, there are some people that were brought up in a house with esperanto speaking parents and spoke it at home, and therefore are fluent. And there are over 900 ROOT words which can be expanded to tens of thousands of words using the many prefixes, affixes ,and compounding ...
jjrt2012 9 months ago
@jjrt2012 oh now i can understand thanks :)
bradfordbulls4lyf 9 months ago
Thanks for the video! Esperanto is such an interesting language. In making our language, we modeled some parts of it after the grammar of Esperanto.
unilange 1 year ago
It's sad to see fighting in the comments below. Esperanto's goal is to bring people together in unity, not silly arguing.
YLRK0 1 year ago 6
it's just disgusting
z3Ndix 1 year ago
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JRios270 1 year ago
terrible lesson. don't go in to education.
juniorjay001 1 year ago
bela muziko!
fiorixF1 1 year ago
Beauty is irrelevant. And Czech is the most beautiful.
rabbitwho 1 year ago
such a terrible video
ben2nd 1 year ago
Can a language be this easy? Why are we not funding this?!
Tzumachiru 1 year ago 9
Indeed. Esperanto is sooo easy, why arent we just teaching the educational-countries this language. Would be way better imo.
LikePwnStyle 1 year ago 15
Hello! very nice vid!
I was wondering if you could help me with this... I want to get a tattoo that says:
am I dreaming?
But i want to try it in different languages... so if you could please translate it for me to esperanto i would appreciate it a lot.
Thanks!
ofelirris 1 year ago
@ofelirris:
ĉu mi sonĝas
or
ĉu mi estas sonĝanta
It depends on the meaning... in esperanto there's also the word "revi" to mean a
a "dream" but with the meaning of a "wish" an "impossible dream"...
...but perhaps there are people more competent than me here who can answwe you better than i do :-D
AriodanteITA 1 year ago
Not as clear as your last one, but verbs are harder and this is really great.
Dankon!
lzlee 1 year ago
Great work Ludwik Zamenhof Polands got talent :D
CanBeYours 1 year ago
Wow, this would indeed be a great global language. So easy! I think I will try and make this my third language.
DvestiDvadcat 1 year ago
ESPERANTO!!!! here we go!!!
Angustianu 1 year ago
The reason it sounds like most european languages is because they're derived from latin isn't it? That's the reason traditional schooling included latin, I believe. To quote Eddie Izzard's teacher, it gives you an underlying knowledge of the european languages.
leushy 2 years ago
For most of you, english speakers, esperanto might sound a lot like english. I speak spanish, and it sounds a loooot like spanish...
Now, if you consider the initial pourpose of this language, it's meeting all its expectations. It's trying to be international, and it's actually getting to that point.
It sounds like spanish to me, it sounds like english to you guys... i bet it sounds like italian to the romans.
It's meant to be the second language in all the countries around the world...
vargaspablo82 2 years ago 2
@vargas -
Native English speaker who's studied Spanish. To me, it doesn't look a thing like English. It defo looks more like Spanish, which is probably a good thing. Seeing as how Spanish has rules that are much more consistent. If it weren't for conjugating those danged verbs, Spanish would be a great international language!
MrRedFredSaid 1 year ago
@vargaspablo82 I've played a bit with La Puzlo Esperanto on Lernu!, and the only thing that feels English to me is word order in a sentence. Well, that and the fact that the third-person singular feminine pronoun ("she") is pronounced the same way.
I'm not fluent in Esperanto by any means, but this is my experience so far.
emmeeemm 1 year ago
Whoa, Esperanto verbs are somewhat like Japanese ones: veeeeeeeeeery simple.
And I mean SIMPLE. Take Portuguese (my native language) as an example.
But I think this international language thing is useless now. There's English. Alright, I know I say it cause it's easier for me cause I already know English, but hey! It's fairly (unlike Mandarin, the most spoken language in the world) easy and a LOT of people speak it! \o/
snakeheartbr 2 years ago
japanese is not easy. It may seem simple because there is only past and non-past, but its confusing as hell not having a future tense or more accurate tenses like there are in Spanish. Also what the hell they most be the only ones who conjugate adjectives.
Hehe, i actually like it a lot, but if you have studied it you'll know what it feels like. And dont get me started on kanjis, seriously wtf were they thinking?!
MyHugestFan 2 years ago
el esperanto no es para "tontos", es para los que queremos un mejor mundo, igual que los que usamos linux, el esperanto tampoco suena más a un lenguaje que a otro, tiene elementos únicos que lo hacen una lengua aparte de las demás. Arriba el Esperanto!!!!
Esperanto isn't a language for dummies, it's a language 4 all us that want a better world, in the same way as all that use linux. Esperanto doesn't sound like another language. It has its own structure,and phonemas
pescast 2 years ago 2
lol, claro que si, nos gusta un mundo en que todos usan linux y hablan Esperanto. Pero no estoy completemente de acuerdo cuando Ud. dice que esperanto no suena como las otras linguas. A mi, suena como un poco de Italia, un poco de Espanol, y un poco de Franca. Feliz Ano Nuevo, mi amigo!! (Espero que mi espanol no esta demasiado horrible)
damasta00138 2 years ago
I don't like this ''language''. It's to much ''spanish'' / italian / portuguese / Catalan / French-ish ...I don't hear..or at least very very litle...germanic languages in it.
Therefore I can't take this ''language for all people'' serious..too bad cuz I like the idea of a global language for all (it would make things much easier...though.. kinda boring perhaps ;)
TheMarcel85 2 years ago
Esperanto may not have influences from every single language on Earth (all 2000+ of them)--that would be impossible--but it is simple and elegant, belongs to no single nation, and has its own international culture. It would allow for everyone to continue speaking their own language too, even if they speak a "minority" language.
That sounds like a language for all people to me, or as close as we can get!
queerpriestess 2 years ago
that may true but it's exremely ugly..and who wants to speak an ''ugly'' language..well..I don't :) but that's just my opinion ofcourse....I can imagine you simply love this ..but I aint :)
oh, and btw..I still think it's waaayyyy to spanish a like
TheMarcel85 2 years ago
Well, everyone has an opinion.
queerpriestess 2 years ago
he shouldn't. haha i think i'll run for president or something
MyHugestFan 2 years ago
Well I think Chinese sounds ugly, and Dutch, for that matter. Arabic sounds like people are trying to clear their throats! The point I'm trying to make is that it's all subjective. What sounds beautiful to one person may sound ugly to another. Esperanto is elegant and easy to learn. What's more, it works.
rinntin 2 years ago 2
My point exactly.
queerpriestess 2 years ago
Hahhahaahhahahha i totally agree!
Im a dutch girl, but i still think its a bit of a farmer-language! And german.. ughh :S that sounds even more retarded. And I agree with that arabic thingie :P
I do like Japanese and Esperanto, ofcourse. Yesterday morning I started learning Esperanto, kaj mi amidas Esperanto!
SanneMusic 2 years ago
@TheMarcel85 That's not Spanish, that's Latin, and it's a VERY superficial complaint. The strength of the language is its simplicity and lack of exceptions, which makes it easy to learn for anyone. I've studied several languages, and the vocabulary is always the easiest part of it. The words could have been all made up (like other artificial languages before it) and it still would be easier to learn than any other language in the world.
sacrisesma 1 year ago
>belongs to no single nation
Except, you know, Spanish culture
adrastea99 2 years ago
I'm not sure I know what you mean?
What I meant when I said it belongs to no single nation is:
-Esperanto can be easily used by people of many linguistic backgrounds
-It is the national or ethnic language of no one
queerpriestess 2 years ago
that was the point, dumbass
MyHugestFan 2 years ago
nice one, i like the style, too bad he never made more.
gorapeng 2 years ago 2
Fuck ya, Esperanto is going to take over the world! We need signs to be written in English and Esperanto!
Shriner66 2 years ago
I agree every country should just adopt Esperanto as their official language. I know easy to learn and mankind (at least for the most part) will no longer have a language barrier.
shootanputan 2 years ago
tower of babel, look it up
feralfox34 2 years ago
Well some ppl consider esperanto to be a new romance language but either way it doesnt change the fact that the romance languages are the most beautiful bc esperanto sounds nice also
JRios270 2 years ago 2
The Romance languages are the most beautiful in the world.
Spanish
Portuguese
Romanian
Italian
French
Catalan
JRios270 2 years ago 8
Cool
Personally my favorite sounding languages are Finnish and Hungarian. They sound musical. I like the Germanic languages too, especially Icelandic.
queerpriestess 2 years ago
Oh, thanks =D
Pyxco 2 years ago
@JRios270
The most beautiful language in the world by a wide margin is Arabic. It is also the language of of millions upon millions of verses of poetry .
Arabic is in a league of its own when it comes to nuance and beauty. That is because of the power of derivation that arabic uniquely posseses. Among the indoeurolanguages Farsi/Persian is without the most beautiful and sophisticated language, well ahead of the Romance langauges.
English is at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to beauty.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2
And that is your opinion. To me, Arabic sounds like someone trying to clear their throat and is at the opposite end of the spectrum to say, French.
TheMikenco 1 year ago
@TheMikenco
French sounds beautiful only when spoken by gorgeous ladies.
It is still an indo-european language though, and while it is definately far better than English, its indo-europeanness limits it in a major way.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 First of all, I respect your opinion. A while ago, I read a survey that said arabic has the most beautiful script, but it also said that Italian is the most beautiful sounding language. Sadly, when one thinks of beauty in sound arabic is not a popular answer. The CIA says that 4.88% of people in the world speak spanish while 3.12% speak arabic. You can see the popularity of these romance languages when you notice that the majority of conlangs (i.e. esperanto) has a romantic influence.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
The reason there are spanish speakers is because of the colonization of latin america. The language spread there by force and colonization not because of its beauty.
Some arabic dialects sound fantastic while others did not. They can sound like completely different languages. The beauty of arabic though is not in how it sounds as much as how it "naturally" rhymes.
Esperanto would have been a good idea had it taken off. English is a major step backward for humanity.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 Of course, but because there are so many people speaking spanish there is a high want for spanish speaking people in the job market. As for rhyming, the romance languages are one of the most rhythmic languages out there. In italian, spanish, and portuguese almost every word ends in an A, O, or E. Plus, italian speakers stress certain syllables in such a way that it sounds like they're singing.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
Spanish and Arabic roughly have same number of native speakers worldwide. Spanish might be slighlty more. However, I would say more people are learning arabic (mostly for religeous reasons).
Romance languges are in deed rhyming. But no where near as arabic. To give you an idea i will throw in a factoid: One arab tribe chronicled its history in a 1 million verse musical rhyming epic poem. This is 150 times bigger than the Iliad of Homeros!
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 That is amazing! I do recognize that this topic is relative to a group of people only, in my case it would be english speakers. For example, spanish is a beautiful language relative to japanese people, arabic is a beautiful language relative to african people and many more, and i think hungarian is a beautiful language relative to romanians, etc. But really, if you google "worlds most beautiful language" french will be the answer that comes up the most followed by italian.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
Hi. Arabic is beautiful because of hte incredible power of its derivation capability. Even christopher columbus called it the mother of all languages. It is all about how you can "construct" such powerful and nuanced meanings. Indo euro languages as a whole are severely lacking. The most powerful indoeuro language is Persian. Persian had to import 70% of its vocabulary from arabic and hack its grammer to be capable of the beautiful poetry it has. Still it is nowhere close to arabic.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 What do you mean by "It is all about how you can "construct" such powerful and nuanced meanings."? because I believe any language is able to do this, especially in the far orient and sanskrit. And as for derivation are you speaking of agglutinative languages because I did not know arabic was considered one.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
All languages are not capable of that. The average sentence in arabic will take a paragraph to translate in english. OK I will give you example how powerful and precise and concise. Arabic is based on 3 or 4 or 2 letter consonantal roots. People think in "roots" not in words. Nuanced meanings are derived from roots.
e.g. the 3 letter root "K T B" means "something related to writing". So let's start deriving ridiculous amounts of words:
KaTaBa - Wrote
KuTeyeB - Booklet
KiTaB Book
modallas2 1 year ago
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 hmmm sounds a lot like esperanto no?
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
Of course, Zamernof (Jewish) took the most powerful concept (consonontal roots, as found in semitic languages) and applied a very very mild version of it to esperanto.
Esperanto is an agglutinative language though. The tends to be very limiting in my opinion.
I still think though that esperanto is much better than english. The world would have been a 100 times better off had they adopted esperanto as the international language after world war II.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 No offense or anything to anyone in this room, but I just dislike english in general. I feel very bad for all the people that had to struggle to learn it.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
English is by far the most retarded language I can think of. Not only it is retarded, it is brittle, lacks warmth and simply lacks completely lacks beauty.
Imagine two italian ladies arguing with one another in the lyrical poetic language, then imagine a couple of American loudmouth angry bitches arguing with one another.
Which one would you rather listen to? The italian argument of course: Far more entertaining. You might as well be listening to Bocelli.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 ROFLMBO!!!!! thats wat I say everyday to my american friends!!!! I mean honestly i think ghetto ppl have a better idea of how english should be written than the most intellectual.
JRios270 1 year ago
@modallas2 I thought he took the agglutinative ideas from russian btw if we're going to continue this conversation we should take it somewhere else lol.
JRios270 1 year ago
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
Yes Latin has a relatively decent derivation capabilities. But not the romance languages.
You always have to go back to latin, and then re-incorporate the word into the Romance language.
also latin derivation tends to involve way too many phonemes.
In arabic, derivation is at least an order of magnitude more powerful than it is in latin. That is how nuanced things get and that is why they have been trying (unsuccessfully lol) to translate the bible for the last 2000 years.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 I, being a lover of languages, admire that greatly. I find that what you tell me does make arabic a very attractive language. All of its beauty concentrated visually and "mentally" if you get what I mean. My criteria for a beautiful language has always been auditory and it still is and it always will be. However, this does give me a perspective on what is beauty.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
You can think of it like this.
Indo european languages are two dimensional languages
Latin maybe 3 dimensional. However it achieves the third dimension at the expense of beauty of meaning. You can achieve some functionality and versatility. but not "beauty" out of the derivation process.
Persian is like 5 dimensional.
And arabic is something like 50 dimensional.
That is literally how precise and concise and eloquent it gets.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 I see what you mean. So basically this whole discussion was pointless because we arguing over a subject the is so relative that we actually agreed on the same ideas?lol The ideas being that the romance languages are beautiful to the ear, but that arabic is beautiful to the eyes and "mind".
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
Actually, arabic is very beautiful to the ear too. Not just to mind, and the extra-terrestrial dimensions. Once you get over some consonants which sound awkward to the untrained european ear, you will discover that the language is 10 times more inherently musical than Italian. This comes from the fact that it has only 3 vowels. You can prolong words, shorten words, do all kinds of vowel acrobatics and still be understood!
e.g. singing:
watch?v=EtTOjr1tT2U
watch?v=hADCL9Zoysk
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 italian will always be the most beautiful language to my ears because its the only language that I've heard that when spoken sounds like the speaker is speaking. However, I do like arabic music a lot. A friend of mines took arabic in HS and he gave me a song that is one of my favorite. I wanted to take the class also but i wasn't allowed to transfer to the class.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
I love italian too. It is better than french in my ears. French is only beautiful when spoken by gorgeous females.
But I do agree with you though. Romance languages are in a league of their own when it comes to european languages.
Finnish and hungarian do sound quite musical to me (both non indoeuro lang) and prollific writer George Bernard Shaw thinks hungarian is in a league of its own when compared to English.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 I actually never have heard hungarian before, I just youtubed it now and it sound beautiful. The writing looks very unique but in a good way lol. I have looked at the grammar and I must say it is one of the most highly inflected languages I have ever seen. Just the sight of it made me feel scared to learn it.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
Inflection = power.
Arabic is ridiculously inflected. It is also ridiculously fusional. Not only this, you can strangely omit entire consonants in arabic and still be understood.
It is just like in english when you "Sup man?" meaning "What's up man?". You ommitted the entire "What" and you are still understood. Arabic is full of that kind of witchcraft but at least english is evolving in the right direction there.
modallas2 1 year ago
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JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
maybe. But I need to get going actually. Nice talkin. Feel free to PM me at YT.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 ASS
its not really cool of making an ass out of urself all the time , who told you Gilaki and Farsi are just like french and english , huh? Do you want me to piss u off once more ? why u idiot jarabs don't respect yourself ?!!!
parandehdarya 1 year ago
@parandehdarya
diahrrea:
I think they are discussing esperanto here. I don't think this is the right place to give us an example of any mental condition you have.
French is relatively close to english vocabulary-wise. It is in the grammer where they differ a bit. Think of every word that ends with (e.g. "civilization" which you have very little of) and it comes from French.
Now, as they say in English English: "Bugger off".
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2
hahaha loser , now french and english are somehow related !!!! but before , they were SOOOO different ! I'm not surprised ,u r another typical cultureless muAsslim jarab B.S er!
parandehdarya 1 year ago
@parandehdarya
You are a fucktard. I won't respond to you. Even those with kindergarten education know that french and english are very strongly connected but also "different". No contradiction between the two. I don't remember though making any specific comments about the gilaki language. What a moron! ? We have a saying and it goes like this (The "name" perfectly matches the "named"). The name I chose for you ("diahrrea" rhymes with Darya) matches everything that comes out of your mouth.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2
would u eat ur shit and camel urine if I find that specific comment ?
I heard mohamad the donkey used to drink camel urine , how westernized jarabs make urine cocktails for a party ?
ummm gilaki and persian are as different as french,german and english , interesting
parandehdarya 1 year ago
@parandehdarya
diahrrea:
Are you on some drug or something? LSD maybe.
Is that your way of getting attention?
What is fuckin wrong with you?
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2
what is your problem ,muAsslim ? tell me , why you wanted to see me again ? honestly ,I am not on that mood to *&%^ you tonight . you must be very thankful to me for all those information I shared with you and lighted up your dark and meaningless life . kiss my ass ,molladass
parandehdarya 1 year ago
@modallas2
does it sound familiar to you
اطرحوها فیالماء فان یكن مافیها هدی و قد هدانا الله تعالی با هدی منه و ان یكون ضلالاً فقد كفاناالله
parandehdarya 1 year ago
so u had missed me a lot :/
parandehdarya 1 year ago
gilaki :زماتی که عربان به گیلان حمله بوگود,گیلان شاه برای بیرونا گودن تازیان و دفاع جه کیشور با سپاهیان گیلی و دیلمی و تالشی و دیگر قومان که زیر فرمان اون بون به جنگ عربان بوشو.
farsi :زمانی که جربان به گیلان حمله کردند،گیلان شاه،برای بیرون راندن تازیان و دفاع از کشور،با سپاهیان گیلی و دیلمی و تالشی و دیگر قومان که زیر فرمان او بودند،به جنگ جربان شتافت.
same grammar , similar words , LOL loser , keep B.S ing
parandehdarya 1 year ago
@JRios270
We live in a european-centric world. That is why european languages will win the poll on the beautiful languages. French sounds beautiful to the ear. That doesn't mean the language is the most beautiful. I judge beauty by two criteria:
1) the ability to construct the most nuanced and rich meanings effortless (ie without writing entire paragraphs)
2) the ability to produce musical rhyming poetry.
It is in the above two departments where arabic is leaps and bounds ahead of the rest.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 Any language can produce musical rhyming poetry, and for something to be beautiful it has to please the persons sense of hearing which as you said is what french does. As for 1 you would have to give me an example of how arabic surpasses every other language in that category.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
I disagree that "any language can produce musical and rhyming poetry". It is not that easy.
A language like Arabic probably has produced 50 million couplets of perfectly rhyming powerful poetry. A language like english has not even produced 1% of that amount of MEDIOCRE poetry.
Every language has an inherent music that has to do with its voweling system. Generally, the more vowels that harder it is to produce music in the words, since the music is in the vowels.
modallas2 1 year ago
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@modallas2 Okay I agree with "the more vowels that harder it is to produce music in the words, since the music is in the vowels." However, thats what makes the romance languages so appealing the fact that there are a small amount of vowels, especially in italian with each word being accented almost the same thus giving it a musical sound. Latin:
Libertus: freedman
Liberare: to free
libertas: freedom
liber: free
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
Human languages are simply like cars: You have Tata Motors on the one end. And a Ferrari on the other end. I indoeuro languages are Tata Motors and languages that belong to other Families are the Ferraris.
Once you've tried a Ferrari, there aint no going back to Tata.
My problem with european language is that they are so similar in structure.
Nous, Nosotros
Vous, Vosotrous
Verb etre (verb to be) etc. Same fundamental core (engine). And its a two cylinder Tata engine
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 that because the romance languages are all evolved forms of latin. You can't expect a great difference if there isn't anything changing it.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
Not really.
English has verb "to be" . It works slightly differently in english. But it is the same concept as as Romance languages.
The only two indo-euro languages that stand out in poetry are Persian (where the impact of arabic on teh language is as big as the impact of latin in French) and Bengali. Both are so far away from europe.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 In school, I never was assigned to read any kind of poetry written by persians, arabs, or indians. It was always oriental or european.
JRios270 1 year ago
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 yes thats what I always loved about latin, greek, russian, etc. As far as I know spanish can only do SOV and SVO but not OSV
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
You need powerful inflection to be able to achieve that sort of thing. But when we do, poetry flows like a river! because simply there are so many ways of constructing the same sentence.
Not only does arabic have that, but it has wickedly powerful SVO omission capabilities for conciseness.
In fact, spanish copied arabic on its pronoun ommission. You don't have to say "Yo Quiero" in spanish. You can just say "Quiero" and be understood that it's the "Yo" who is doing the "Quieroing"
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 actually thats just a latin thing. In latin, instead of ego quaero they just said quaero lol. The spanish grammar is pure vulgar latin; however, Spanish does have arabic loanwords. The thing with the romance languages is that they were made by people who didn't like powerful inflection or inflection at all. The only inflection in the romance languages are in the pronouns, verbs, and there is minor inflection in the adjectives (except for romanian which has inflection in the nouns.)
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
you're probably right about the pronouns. But for some reason only spanish omits them but not French. So my mind immediately jumped to the arabic influence on spanish.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 french and romanian to me are the strangest of the romance languages. Romanian has a strong slavic influence but it still retained its latin roots. French on the other hand i believe was changed when a group of invaders tried to corrupt their language (vulgar latin) so they're a bit weird. Actually, before I learned french and grew to love it; I always thought it sounded like people vomiting and having sex at the same time.
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
French music sucks to tell you the truth. French is a language unsuitable for singing. Too many wierd vowels. Je suis malade (maladeuuuuuuuuh).
French was invented by god for gorgeous women. That is all.
God also had to invent a special egyptian arab actress (dalida) of italian discent to teach them how to sing lol.
watch?v=WfeCNvRPba4
modallas2 1 year ago
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JRios270 1 year ago
@modallas2 And i think I know what you mean by poetry flowing like a river. for example, there are many cases in spanish where the same vowel is used over and over again making it sound musical. A small example is this simple phrase
"Este es del fe"
"this is of the faith"
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
I am telling JRios. Arabic has a ridiculous amount of poetry. In bedouin arabic culture, when people used to go to court to plead their case, you had to deliver your argument "poetically" (i mean in perfectly rhyming prose) and people still did it as if it is normal day to day business. It's frickin unbelievable.
Still, there is this thing called debate poetry. Two poets stand up and debate with one another in perfectly improvsed poetry with a chorus clapping to the beat of the poem!
modallas2 1 year ago
@JRios270
Also bear in mind this. Almost all indo-european language speakers who end up learning another language of another language family end up being fascinated by and loving the the new language far more than they love their indo-euro language.
Some people seem to think that the secret behind indo-european language spread is their appeal to least common denominator and their primitiveness. I totally agree. Just read what Bernard Shaw had to write about hungarian and its power.
modallas2 1 year ago
@modallas2 btw do you know a good way to learn the arabic alphabet?
JRios270 1 year ago
@JRios270
Arabic has an easy alphabet to learn. There are only 3 vowels (a, o, e) and (aa, oo, ee). In other words long and short versions of the "a", "o", "e" sounds. The short vowels are often ommitted in the writing system because they can be easily inferred. This causes some confusion to people who learn the language. However, it is this relative "indifference" to vowels that makes the language so powerful and that makes the arabic language(s) so intelligible across vast distances.
modallas2 1 year ago
@JRios270
Arabic has 28 letters. 25 consonants and 3 vowels. It has a very simple writing system. It is 3 to 4 times faster to write arabic than to write latin orthography. Once you figure it out, you will figure out the ingenuity of the near east and why they came to invent so many alphabetical system until the converged on the "perfect" orthography that is not only so fast to write but that has the most stunningly beautiful script of all the languages
You can start here:
watch?v=ANIoxAxruys
modallas2 1 year ago
Esperanto is Linux, English is Microsoft.
You choose to install linux, but you have no choice when you buy a new laptop, you must have MS, because powerful people decided for you.
Even without so much money as english and Microsoft, Esperanto and Linux still survive and fight against the strongers
Davide contro Golia
umegghju 2 years ago 2
I don't agree at all. Linux is hard to configure, you must learn how to compile sources and deal with logical devices. Instead, Esperanto is smooth and easy.
Nothing worse than a bunch Gnome and Linux Kernel geeks configuring and expanding Esperanto, no, thanks!
Dzwitch 2 years ago
I mean: free, Linux has no owner.
However, sooner or later they will create a way to install easily (when they will do this will be always late, however let's wait)
umegghju 2 years ago
Actually Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds, so somehow it has an owner - generous owner, but...owner :-)
BTW there's a cool program to learn Esperanto called "kurso" available for Linux -debian packages included - and Windows.
Dzwitch 2 years ago
If it is "kurso de esperanto" i know it, (Mi eklernis esperanton per tiu kurso).
I hope the Linux distributions will provide it for free with their CDs and DVDs, would be a very good thing.
umegghju 2 years ago
i'd love all people using esperanto, it's so easy and no accent, i dont understand why do we learn english, spanish, french and german. all of them if we all can study just one easy global language
Tarazenguard 2 years ago
lazy bastards
MyHugestFan 2 years ago
ho hoo man, easy. actually i speak 6 languages so i don't think iam lazy....
it's just an issue and my opinion. wouldn't it be easier that way? with one language? i think so
Tarazenguard 2 years ago 2
i dont know if i was drunk or something, but i dont remember writing that comment. Anyway i'm sorry. I actually think that it is a great idea to have a global language that is easy to learn instead of english or chinese.
MyHugestFan 2 years ago
oh wait, i remember now. I was not calling you lazy. I was calling lazy everyone else that do not want to learn esperanto because they already speak english.
MyHugestFan 2 years ago
Esperanto would be the perfect language, IF it wasn't so ugly..I'm sorry but it's almost like Spanish in its way of forming words, which is in my honest opinion horrible. If it were to sound like English then it would be a perfect match.
VonCarlsson 2 years ago
UGLY? You mean latin languages sound ugly?
I have nothing against english, but some english words are the ugliest I ever heard, like "Earth" in american accent.
Just imagine an alien asking a human where is he from and the answer comes as "Earth". The poor alien will think "Shit! What an horrible name for a planet!"
Now "Terra" sounds so more beautiful!
piterkeo 2 years ago
It's a personal opinion. It's like starting an argument about what food tastes best, it just doesn't happen be because taste is different.. And no, terra doesn't sound better imo.
VonCarlsson 2 years ago
Of course i know also many german, hungarian, spanish, finnish, swedish, american, and some african esperantist.
Problems of understanding : NONE
You was never in an esperantist meeting, so you are free to don't believe that, it's not my problem. If so many people still support Eo, this is why it works better than any other language used internationally, there is no doubt about that
Greetings
(PS, a high percentage of Eo is made by germanic words)
umegghju 2 years ago
English is only a music, you say that a word has a pronunciation, but when you put it in a long sentence the pronunciation changes almost always.
Generally you cannot understand where a word starts and where it finishes, that's why nobody who studied english can understand native english and has to SPEND time and money to learn, and thousand hours to watch movies.
I can write-read english but i don't understand movies, and don't want to watch them in english
umegghju 2 years ago
I can imagine that hearing the individual words is hard if your native language is not closely related to the English language(i.e Germanic language). Though I do not believe that it's so hard to learn it and also, money can't control everything right?
And for that matter Esperanto is like that for people which speaks a Germanic language, it just looks like randomly placed characters honestly.
VonCarlsson 2 years ago
My aunt are quite rich so my cousin could go to UK and USA to learn better english. 3000-4000€ for 10 days (!!). My parents couldn't do it.
But i really liked languages so i learnt and i work in English, since the most is written language, but i can't understand movies.
I know germans/english... who learnt quickly to distinguish italian words; i cannot talk good polish but quicly learnt to distinguish the very hard polish words even polish isnt latin lang.
WhenEn is used, translator are need
umegghju 2 years ago
Maybe it's just who you are, I have absolutely no problems in distinguishing words and thus have no problems watching English films...
VonCarlsson 2 years ago
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TheMarcel85 2 years ago
imo, Esperanto isn't ugly, just kinda generic. But that's beside the point if it works as an international language!
And why should it sound like English (or any other language)? It's meant to be international.
queerpriestess 2 years ago 13
Liking the language you speak is a big part of the language itself.
VonCarlsson 2 years ago 2
Esperanto ould be just perfect IF!!!! there weren't accents at all
catadeluxe 2 years ago
Is this the most popular language designed for global communication?
cagronomy 2 years ago 3
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Que idioma de mierda ¡¡¡ Esperanto es mierda ¡¡
Fucking language ¡¡ Esperanto is shit
bmxosiris1 2 years ago
Vi estas maljuna flufo.
MrShnizzer 2 years ago
la amuza :)!! or something like that xD
patrick10001 2 years ago
You may want to keep out the flashy bits, that can't be followed anyway.
YTMrVulcan 2 years ago
TELL ME THE NAME OF THE MUSIC PLEASE !!
Reofive 3 years ago
estu! what wabout estu?
morwennahitch 3 years ago
does the past tense include the perfect and imperfect/preterite? like would "mi ridis" mean "i laughed" as well as "i was laughing"?
BloodBound093 3 years ago
wildweathel 3 years ago
I know, i'm just trying to keep it simple... and as i can see now, too simple =/ kk. you'll get more (and better) videos soon. I just have some problems with my video editor... and school as well =(
Pyxco 3 years ago
thank you for the lesson, it was interesting =)
darfunkelidas 2 years ago
bonne :)
thisusernameistaken2 3 years ago
vi estas brava!
Tigletpileser 3 years ago
Bonko is a minimalistic language with 100 root-words and 14 letters. Root words can be combined to form more complex thoughts. Bonko is a language based on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis which state "the language a person speaks determines how a person understands the world and behave in it". Bonko has simple, yet logical root words. The word "light" also means "heat" because light gives off heat.
arpee92 3 years ago
multi pasting... yep, also Toki Pona =D
Pyxco 3 years ago
toki pona isn't sapir-whorf based.
thisusernameistaken2 3 years ago
yeah, your right with that. I'm getting interesting with this Banko. I should check it out =D ... still multi pasting.
Pyxco 3 years ago
Mi volas spekti la 3an parton!
Bira8Fehera 3 years ago
just try dutch. you will be suicidal befor you start.
doctorhuig 3 years ago 3
exactly! now start learning esperanto! :D
emaytee 3 years ago
Vi ankaux forgesis la -U-verbon.
Novjunulo 4 years ago
Li forgesis ambaŭ la volitivan kaj la kondicionalan formojn.
vrdel 3 years ago
Mi krekas ke ne necesas ilin en tiaj videoj.
Ĝi ŝajnas fulman instruadon, tial, montras nur la plej gravaj aŭ uzataj eroj.
Bira8Fehera 3 years ago
Ne, vi estas sole lernanto, kiel ni ĉiuj. Misuzi verbojn en leciono ne helpas.
Kio vi volis diri kun "fulma"?
vrdel 3 years ago
Fulma estus kiel tro rapida;
Eble ĝi ne volas precize instrui, sed inciti la eklernadon aŭ rapide rememori gramatikerojn al komencantoj.
Mi atendas pli tiajn videojn. Iom modernaj.
Bira8Fehera 3 years ago
la negacio de la vervo estas pli bone antaŭ la verbo kaj ne post la vervo mi ne estas..
acortesf 4 years ago
La videofilmeto kuri tro rapida, helpo!
Vivu la esperanta movado!
franciscupala 4 years ago
dankon mi amas vin!
Gauchland 4 years ago
Vi forgesis "-us," cxu ne?
Novjunulo 4 years ago
Gxi dependas. Cxiuj linvoj ne kredi "-us" estas verbo (jes, en esperanto gxi estas!). Ankaux, gxi estas ne grava ankoraux... jen la serio.
Pyxco 4 years ago
"ne kredi"
Cxu vi pensis "ne kredas"?
Novjunulo 4 years ago