Interview with Chief Ayo Salami; & the Oba Oriate Accord (Part 1 of 7)

[ObafemiO]

Excellent insights. Thank God for your good works. May your efforts continue to be blessed by Heaven. Ase!

[femimeredith]

You have no clue how insiteful this video is, thank you. We are all One, There is no traditional and Lukumi, there is only Orisa and the ancestors...everybody get your head right!

Aboru, Aboye, Abosise!

[AfroNerd5]

@femimeredith ASHE!!!!! Lukumi is AFRICAN!!! It is the traditions of new world AFRICAN but AFRICAN none the less... The Ancestors are turning over in Orun, blacks are allowing mixed race/white cubans to run the show....

[bxlunar]

@AfroNerd5 color isn't the problem....it's their mindset.there is only one race.would you refuse help from a white egun?i hope not.....

[AfroNerd5]

@bxlunar Certainly I wouldn't refuse my European egun. However as is the case with all religions the voice and face of the religion should be the descendants of those who started not the descendants of those who tried to suppress it!!!

[bxlunar]

@AfroNerd5 there are blacks who try to suppress the religion also....like i said begore,it is the mindset.NOT COLOR!!! btw,are you initiated??

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[AfroNerd5]

@bxlunar I am very much aware there are blacks who have attempted to suppress the religion but lets not do tit for tat. Certainly you know the difference historically between white and blacks who made efforts to suppress the religion. I am perplexed why a European would want to be involved in ATR anyhow. Why not study and uplift your own ancestral traditions instead of someone else's. While think anyone should be allowed to practice anything I would slit my wrist before I study under a white

[bxlunar]

@AfroNerd5 i'm Black and lucumi.i know of Afrikan babalawos that misguide and steal from ppl.did you not hear what chief Salami said about europe?when EGUN or the ORISHAS call,you answer!!!no matter the color.one of the chief priestesses of OCHUN was a european,IBAYE,living in Nigeria.Spirituality is in everyones' blood.it's your ORI that helps decide wth whom you feel comfortable with to study under.btw,i KNEW you weren't initiated by the way you are speaking.you need to SEE and learn more.....

[AfroNerd5]

@bxlunar Why I'm I not surprised by the cliched statement "I KNEW you weren't initiated by the way you are speakin". This seems to be the defense in an argument by many Olorisha who encounter disagreement. If you are comfortable with it fine go ahead put the ache of the Orishas on all the Europeans you like. My sentiments are not solely the product of aleyos many initiated priest feel this same way and many only express such sentiments in private because white latinos are now the face and

[AfroNerd5]

@bxlunar voice of ATRs. Many with crowns older then yours oppose initiating Europeans both in the diaspora and the continent. Many have the attitude that "The blacks are your godchildren and the whites pay the bills", good or bad it is a reality. I am aware of the European Oshun priestess who built the shrine in Osogbo and other noteable white olorishas and of unscrupolous black priest yes but none of this wavers my opinions. But if you want the Ache of African deities and ancestors placed

[AfroNerd5]

@bxlunar on your head by Europeans go right ahead I'm not stopping you. I find it more then odd that White egun will take one to Orisha before Asatru or another European tradition. Have you heard of black Egun telling someone to initiate into the Druid mysteries? I already know you haven't. But as usually blacks want to include everyone else in everything but then when the whites try and suggest IFA is theres(which will happen eventually) blacks will talk about how whites stole there history

[007Liser]

@AfroNerd5 @ AfroNerd5,Have you listened to what Ayo says & how we help each other.What is wrong with someone of another color studying Ifa? I am white & by a miracle I found about about Santo & Chango led me to my first Madrina.And by another miracle/Orisha I have been led to Ayo.I am truly blessed!! I can not wait to go to Nigeria to the true source of my tradition!! Ashe'

[AfroNerd5]

@bxlunar when they were the ones to allow outsiders into there mysteries. This is occuring as we speak, Mexicans are going to great lengths to suggest IFA comes from the Aztecs and many are accepting this notion as fact. Go to the religious temples of ANY ethnic/racial group that is none black and look at the people who are the face and voice it is always reflective of that traditions origins. But with all things black we must be inclusive. Sounds like a lil Willie Lynch to me...

[bxlunar]

@AfroNerd5 hispanics are the face of Lucumi because it is based in Cuba...i would be a total fool if i told you that there aren't bigots in Lucumi.if anyone tries to misuse or thwart any others' attempts to be initiated,they are doomed.i don't care if my godfather were french...if my head says he is the one to follow,then it is what it is....in regards to spirituality..THERE IS NO COLORLINE..!!! if bigots don't want me to join their ile,fine!!their loss.

[bxlunar]

@AfroNerd5 you need to get off of youtube and out of books and experience the real deal.then,you can talk.

[AfroNerd5]

@bxlunar And you should get off youtube and refine the skills of an Olorisha instead of arguing with what you deem to be an unworthy aleyo.

[bxlunar]

@AfroNerd5 iwa pele is very important.you need to mature and learn before you speak.btw, i NEVER said i was crowned.that's you not thinking and pre-judging before you write.Lucumi is more than a religion.it's a culture.respect for your elders is a must.do you get my point?

[AfroNerd5]

@bxlunar godparent in Yoruba or allow a white person to scratch me in Palo but to each his own. But all of these super PC blacks want over inclusivity and now what do we have? Palo and Yoruba houses that won't even initiate blacks.  These sort of practices simply do not occur to other ethnicities and there religion because they see no need for political correctness as blacks do. You'd never hear of a shinto temple that doesn't allow Japaness people, but when an African American seeks an ile

[AfroNerd5]

@bxlunar to study there own tradition they find that doors are closed to them left and write. This would have never happened if Europeans hadn't been introduced to the religion in the first place. There is nothing racist about this. There is no coincidence that different ethnicities have different religions and anthropomorphize there deities according to culture, because our spirituality is in our blood. And to answer your question no I am not initiated.

[learningorganically]

Aboru, aboye, abosise Adupe oooooooo!!! This is wonderful!!!