nice stove, only suggestion i have is the sputtering is a combination of the vent holes being too few and too close and the jets really need to be evenly spaced and at the correct angle for a good burn but overall very nice!
Have you ever tried a different fuel? Because I know that when I used denatured acohol it was unstable. Denatured alcohol is pure alcohol but with something in it (because 100% alcohol is illegal), so each batch is different. Go to your local auto parts store and buy HEET (in the yellow bottle). It is a gas additive used to remove moisture from system. It MUST be the yellow bottle though, NOT red. The red is made for diesel, it will burn like oil. Try it out and let me know what you think!
Nice work. The veggi can lid was a good idea too. I use a penny stove I built using the 24oz Heini cans, and after a month in the BWCA I'm pleased with it, and the simmer ring worked well. But I think I'll give your idea a try also...it looks like a good performer.
1) do you jb weld the inner burner to the inner wall of the air handler and are all three pieces welded together, so not removable later?
2) how many holes in each row, and diameter of holes? two rows have same number but the last row confused me.
3) how do you make the auto fill for extended use. I want to let my kid bake in a "tinny" type baker and the ability to add a "side tank" would be awesome. How do you controll the flow rate so as not to overfill the unit?
Awsome! Beautiful AND elegant! (--simple and efficient.) The spray bottle ring on top makes for a nice opening.
I was working on a similar concept with a cottle recently with choke and fiberglassed cylinder in the neck like yours, and I was shocked out of my gord to see it already done so well, even 7 months before I even thought of my version. I have a couple of yet to be explored tricks up my sleeve , so let me see if that improves upon it.
Nice Stove! Just a thought you might try is 6-8 holes spaced all around the bottom. Then your control band would have the same number of holes around it. That way you could control air flow all around the stove instead of just one side. I do not know if that would cause wind issues or not.
Fiberglass insulation, fiberglass tape, and stainless steel mesh. I know about the air issue. I solved that in proto 2. Thanks for the comment! Peace.
Absolutely beautiful! added to my favorites. You can find the black 'spray' paint @ most hardware stores, it's high temp for grills, the top spray paint manufacturers make them, approx $6.
Thank you, sir! Check out my proto #2 of this one. I think it is superior in adjustability and craftsmanship. As for the paint, thanks for the reference, but this stove is actually too hot for it! I tried, and it had a hard time when reducing flame strength. Thanks for the comment! Peace.
Thanks for the comment! As with everything in my life, things change or become obsolete, and this is a design I think I can improve noticeably in the next proto. Peace.
I think the Featherfire's creator and some japanese stovies have truely been the ones that deserve the credit there. All I did was should how an average guy like me can make something similar from 2 cans, some easy to get materials, and just a few hand tools. I do, however, agree that the next big step is going to be flame control while burning. Who knows, could be something even bigger. Things change, or become obsolete. Thanks for the comment! Peace.
I just built one works great did not put holes like terrafirma just did 1/16 at top 2 rows bottom just 4 1/4 holes use 7 tiki wicks up right just blow the air holes and a piece of hardware cloth on top to hold them from falling out
Nice work TerraFirma369! It may have been inspired by the FeatherFire, but it is unique and deserves its own recognition. I won't have time to build one soon, but I wonder if the air vents could be more evenly spaced around the diameter. The control band could have series of progressively bigger holes to control flow. Could be a challenge to get the geometry right though.
Interesting idea with the holes around the perimeter. I will add it to the grab bag for a proto#2! I think you are right though, that one may require an actual tape measure and some math. My head is hurting already.....lol. Thanks for the comment! I wish youtube would put my replies immediately after the text I reply to!...lmao. Youtube for you.... Peace.
Why do you do this to me i was all set to stay nice and warm this winter now i got to go out in the shop try it.Now how much will it hold on fuel.Nice job by the way.
Sorry to disturb you hibernation Robert. It Holds 1.5 oz. with the fiberglass, probably a touch more without it. See what you can do with it. I am very interested in seeing what everyone comes up with. Happy holidays. Peace.
Thanks. Please, if you see them, send me a link. Part of my inspiration here was the Featherfire video by NCHiker1970. I just don't like buying things if I can make something similar. Peace.
Did you need the fiberglass any of what you put into the center tube? I think with just an empty tube would give you a better flame. Guess that is another experiment. Have you also thought about another way to open up the air way other then chop sticks. Also leave it unpainted.
The fiberglass Starlyte-style bit is for gas evaporation control. I tried it without the fiberglass in testing....not so good. Sputtered more. Second question...When you have the pot and stand on it, the weight of them hold it down well enough to do it without holding the base. The handle does get hot, so i prefer to use a stick. Chopsticks were handy. I agree on the unpainted theory. It burns hot enough already! Thanks for the input, man! Peace.
A true work of art.5/5 (again ;o) ) I do have a couple of thoughts. I would not paint this one. It is already too hot. I suspect the sputtering is caused by the heated outer chamber acting like a secondary combustion chamber which gets hot, sucks vapour, shoots out the top and repeats. Its a mini ramjet. How cool.
I think I agree there, but it seemed in the development of this stove that more drafting helped to even it out a bit. Further testing is definitely warranted. Thank you for the comment! Peace.
More drafting, with the mix of more and cooler air will definitely help, but if you would rather make more of a jet simply add a tube to the top which is the same diameter at the top opening and 5 to 7 times the same diameter in length. Watch out for your eyebrows though; I speak with the voice of experience ;)(ouch)
Ok now I think you have started something! Everyone will be building these now! Great idea. I would not change anything with it. its unique I have not seen anything like it anywhere. You have basicly done what they did with the featherfire, but in your own way. When I get time Im heading to my workshop for some adventures in stove building! Although I am thinking along the lines of using one of the Cottles instead. Now you showed it off, and now Im going to copy ya!
If you meant NcHiker1970, I know which one you mean. That's the Featherfire stove. I didn't want to spend the money, so I tried making a do-it-at-home version. Thanks for the comment! Peace.
nice stove, only suggestion i have is the sputtering is a combination of the vent holes being too few and too close and the jets really need to be evenly spaced and at the correct angle for a good burn but overall very nice!
usarswagg 2 months ago
People like this will be the survivors when society falls apart. Their knowledge will be their wealth.
Rastel888 5 months ago
No we cant hear it, you have music playing..... :(
ArkaelDren 7 months ago
great video, great proto, great music< what or should I say who is it please?
GCreptiles 1 year ago
great stove
weedhopp 1 year ago
way cool , ceramic insulation is now available in cast-able form that would greatly increase conservation of heat to intensify out put
wizardman42 1 year ago
top vid GREAT stove but cant hear a bloody thing I keep looking for the Indians love there music but a bit loud mate!
TheWaggaBloke 1 year ago
Have you ever tried a different fuel? Because I know that when I used denatured acohol it was unstable. Denatured alcohol is pure alcohol but with something in it (because 100% alcohol is illegal), so each batch is different. Go to your local auto parts store and buy HEET (in the yellow bottle). It is a gas additive used to remove moisture from system. It MUST be the yellow bottle though, NOT red. The red is made for diesel, it will burn like oil. Try it out and let me know what you think!
TheTrueOregon 1 year ago
very nice stove . It looks like you really put some thought into the desing. great job
cslr11 1 year ago
Nice work. The veggi can lid was a good idea too. I use a penny stove I built using the 24oz Heini cans, and after a month in the BWCA I'm pleased with it, and the simmer ring worked well. But I think I'll give your idea a try also...it looks like a good performer.
Bravo21 1 year ago
Hmmm the devil makes work for idol thumbs.
Sunclief 1 year ago
FOCUS, dammnit!
pshinspections 1 year ago
huh.... This is sort of like an updraft stove with fiberglass to contain the fuel.
legox50 2 years ago
Would you like to sell me one? I love the way this is made.... I would use it everyday.
AUGRE12345 2 years ago
Love the music. Very elegant design.
bwindussa 2 years ago
perty cool need to patent that but first spread the flame
gurt123 2 years ago
1) do you jb weld the inner burner to the inner wall of the air handler and are all three pieces welded together, so not removable later?
2) how many holes in each row, and diameter of holes? two rows have same number but the last row confused me.
3) how do you make the auto fill for extended use. I want to let my kid bake in a "tinny" type baker and the ability to add a "side tank" would be awesome. How do you controll the flow rate so as not to overfill the unit?
thanks
Swaz
Swazooli 2 years ago
Nice and well done I just saw those yesterday and I'm planning on doing one myself. Keep up the good work!
bakupcpu 2 years ago
Awsome! Beautiful AND elegant! (--simple and efficient.) The spray bottle ring on top makes for a nice opening.
I was working on a similar concept with a cottle recently with choke and fiberglassed cylinder in the neck like yours, and I was shocked out of my gord to see it already done so well, even 7 months before I even thought of my version. I have a couple of yet to be explored tricks up my sleeve , so let me see if that improves upon it.
Good job! I love it!
MrRangerTom 2 years ago
Nice Stove! Just a thought you might try is 6-8 holes spaced all around the bottom. Then your control band would have the same number of holes around it. That way you could control air flow all around the stove instead of just one side. I do not know if that would cause wind issues or not.
Pinworthy 3 years ago
Definitely worth trying! Thanks for the advice and comment! Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
Great stove. I have enjoyed your videos. A person gets a lot of information from you, thats refreshing.
conradstesttable 3 years ago
I try to convey as much info as possible. Teach a man to fish.... Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
that is cool
1 what is inside the ax can fiberglass???
and it need a few more air holes, it is still starved for air when it is all the way open
singful 3 years ago
Fiberglass insulation, fiberglass tape, and stainless steel mesh. I know about the air issue. I solved that in proto 2. Thanks for the comment! Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
Absolutely beautiful! added to my favorites. You can find the black 'spray' paint @ most hardware stores, it's high temp for grills, the top spray paint manufacturers make them, approx $6.
locorogue 3 years ago
Thank you, sir! Check out my proto #2 of this one. I think it is superior in adjustability and craftsmanship. As for the paint, thanks for the reference, but this stove is actually too hot for it! I tried, and it had a hard time when reducing flame strength. Thanks for the comment! Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
こんにちわ、dutro76（JSB）です。
このストーブは煙突効果が素晴らしい！
Esbitも燃やせると思います
１６ｇのEsbitを、中央底部に立てて置いて
実験したら、興味深い結果を得ると期待しています
液体アルコール燃料、さらに、Esbit燃料。
dutro76 3 years ago
Domo arigato! Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
Very cool design. Keep up the great work.
hiramcook 3 years ago
Thank you sir! I appreciate your comment and compliment! Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
great little stove. cant wait to see if you come up with anything new for it. if your like me as i build something i come up with new ideas.
irrationalsolutions 3 years ago
Thanks for the comment! As with everything in my life, things change or become obsolete, and this is a design I think I can improve noticeably in the next proto. Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
Great job. This opens kind of new edge in stove building (with flame control).
lebammabel 3 years ago
I think the Featherfire's creator and some japanese stovies have truely been the ones that deserve the credit there. All I did was should how an average guy like me can make something similar from 2 cans, some easy to get materials, and just a few hand tools. I do, however, agree that the next big step is going to be flame control while burning. Who knows, could be something even bigger. Things change, or become obsolete. Thanks for the comment! Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
I just built one works great did not put holes like terrafirma just did 1/16 at top 2 rows bottom just 4 1/4 holes use 7 tiki wicks up right just blow the air holes and a piece of hardware cloth on top to hold them from falling out
RJBURG 3 years ago
I can't wait to see it, Robert! Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
Nice work TerraFirma369! It may have been inspired by the FeatherFire, but it is unique and deserves its own recognition. I won't have time to build one soon, but I wonder if the air vents could be more evenly spaced around the diameter. The control band could have series of progressively bigger holes to control flow. Could be a challenge to get the geometry right though.
Nice Job!
DaddyMnM 3 years ago
Interesting idea with the holes around the perimeter. I will add it to the grab bag for a proto#2! I think you are right though, that one may require an actual tape measure and some math. My head is hurting already.....lol. Thanks for the comment! I wish youtube would put my replies immediately after the text I reply to!...lmao. Youtube for you.... Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
Why do you do this to me i was all set to stay nice and warm this winter now i got to go out in the shop try it.Now how much will it hold on fuel.Nice job by the way.
RJBURG 3 years ago 2
Sorry to disturb you hibernation Robert. It Holds 1.5 oz. with the fiberglass, probably a touch more without it. See what you can do with it. I am very interested in seeing what everyone comes up with. Happy holidays. Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
Nice work TF369 I like to see were this will go in the future for sure .Yes there are a couple youtube videos similar to this idea
xsplosive1975 3 years ago
Thanks. Please, if you see them, send me a link. Part of my inspiration here was the Featherfire video by NCHiker1970. I just don't like buying things if I can make something similar. Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
Did you need the fiberglass any of what you put into the center tube? I think with just an empty tube would give you a better flame. Guess that is another experiment. Have you also thought about another way to open up the air way other then chop sticks. Also leave it unpainted.
NCHiker1970 3 years ago
The fiberglass Starlyte-style bit is for gas evaporation control. I tried it without the fiberglass in testing....not so good. Sputtered more. Second question...When you have the pot and stand on it, the weight of them hold it down well enough to do it without holding the base. The handle does get hot, so i prefer to use a stick. Chopsticks were handy. I agree on the unpainted theory. It burns hot enough already! Thanks for the input, man! Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
I like it! dunno if I can make a copy or not but gonna try it. thankyou
4ancientarts 3 years ago
Man, I just have a few hand tools, a drill, and a butane lighter. It takes some attention to detail, but I bet you can. Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
A true work of art.5/5 (again ;o) ) I do have a couple of thoughts. I would not paint this one. It is already too hot. I suspect the sputtering is caused by the heated outer chamber acting like a secondary combustion chamber which gets hot, sucks vapour, shoots out the top and repeats. Its a mini ramjet. How cool.
WorldStove 3 years ago
I think I agree there, but it seemed in the development of this stove that more drafting helped to even it out a bit. Further testing is definitely warranted. Thank you for the comment! Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
More drafting, with the mix of more and cooler air will definitely help, but if you would rather make more of a jet simply add a tube to the top which is the same diameter at the top opening and 5 to 7 times the same diameter in length. Watch out for your eyebrows though; I speak with the voice of experience ;)(ouch)
WorldStove 3 years ago
Ok now I think you have started something! Everyone will be building these now! Great idea. I would not change anything with it. its unique I have not seen anything like it anywhere. You have basicly done what they did with the featherfire, but in your own way. When I get time Im heading to my workshop for some adventures in stove building! Although I am thinking along the lines of using one of the Cottles instead. Now you showed it off, and now Im going to copy ya!
NCHiker1970 3 years ago
Please, copy and refine! I want to see what people come up with. Just thought I would throw the pebble, start the ripples.... Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago
SUPER COOL! it kinda reminds me of the ajustable stove hchiker did a recent vid on!
THREEFLOORSDOWN1 3 years ago
If you meant NcHiker1970, I know which one you mean. That's the Featherfire stove. I didn't want to spend the money, so I tried making a do-it-at-home version. Thanks for the comment! Peace.
TerraFirma369 3 years ago