I graduated from MMI in 2005. My first industry job was at an aftermarket shop paying $10/hr. I got an offer 6 months later from a Harley dealer for $12/hr. After 2 months they bumped me up to $13 and then fired me less than year later because I was looking for a job that paid more. Found another job at a dealership starting at $9. They said the most they could pay me $11/hr. I'm still paying for that student loan, but I'm making nearly $20/hr now driving a delivery truck. Go figure.
I'm interested in hearing what you have to say. I was talking to an MMI rep today, and have on and off for about 6 months. I have the forms in my email box and am waiting to send them in. Let me know. I don't want to get dicked again by another shitty school Just attended AIU for 1 1/2 years and that school totally sucked.
I graduated in Jan. 1994 and it's STILL hard finding a job. I STARVE every winter and when I do work, the pay usually sucks. They've flooded the job market with rookies that only last a year or 2 if they manage to find a job. I still do it because I LOVE motorcycles... I wish I'd become a chef though. Tired of being hungry and broke. I've got bitchin' bike though.
stop whining people, i'm from Greece and i went to a school that i thought was the equivalent of MMI or Wyotech. After i finished i decided i want to move to the States to live.But then i found out that me degree was nothing in America, worthless, just a piece of paper. Somebody even told me that the education at my school, apart from the technical courses, is the equivalent of a hischool in America. A HIGHSCHOOL. all i'm saying is, if you have to go, go ask them about everything, they can't lie
@gionisalex LOL... they can lie, and they do. I am going to MMI, Orlando for over a year now. If I learned anything... I know how to lie. There is very little work here (while you are in school), and the help that you get on finding a job is... Look On The Net.
@RichSweat1 what i meant to say, was that, when you go to sign up at a school of this kind, don't just sign papers willy nilly, you should ask specific questions and demand documented answers in plain English, not the fancy terms they use so you don't understand anything...and finally, don't just rely on the school to take care of your life, because you are the only one able to do this. MMI will provide you with a degree and some basic knowledge, so it's up to you to put that in good use
I would concentrate on being a Hardly-Ableson technician. All of these bikes need to be constantly worked on and break often. Shit, If I just concentrated on being a OIL LEAK specialist, I would be filthy rich in no time. :-)
If you go to school for them to find a job for you ... dude ... go back to WalMart seriously. You go there to study and they help you give small steps towards your carreer job but they are never employment agencies, they are just a school where you learn to after-perform. Just stand up, print resumes, build a portfolio/website and go look for a job.
I got a close friend that is there with like 6 months tio go... he's holding a 4.0 (he has previous mechanic experience) and loves it... he's already got an offer for Harley Davidson Australia... fact is the trolls are disgruntled cant hack crybaby bitches... anyone condiering this school... go for it... just dont go in with a "bad attitude" like your a cool biker... because that doesn't mean anything there, they want professional techs, not tards in leather and neon foam spike fags...
What a bunch of Sallies MMI did you guy's a favor and got rid of before you ruined someone elses education. The truth is, you can't really handle this industry. They would chew you up and spit you right back into baggin groceries. Sorry didn't mean to bag on the baggers, we need you guy's too. (Thanks for what you do). You cry about how MMI can't find you a job. Find your own. Bet your mommies walked you to school the first day. huh.
FUCK MMI!! DONT DO IT, YOU WILL BE TREATED LIKE SHIT IN THE INDUSTRY, CLOWNS OFF THE STREET WILL GET PAYED MORE THAN YOU, MMI IS A WAIST OF MONEY, I REGRET IT SO MUCH I WANT TO KILL MYSELF, I HAD SO MUCH MONEY AND THREW IT AWAY TO BE BROKE AND NEVER RIDE, I NEVER HAVE AND I NEVER WILL RIDE, FUCK M M I. IF I COULD GO BACK I WOULD NEVER GO TO SCHOOL, EDUCATION AND HARD WORK WILL GET YOU NOWHERE!!
I'm singing up to mmi on Phoenix Az... just had a call 4th them... And I'm 4rm palmdale C.A Realy don't care what u guy say about it I just think u guy don't pay really attention ooooo and jobs are not Realy ganna come to u......... Get your lazy asses up and look..... Or just don't even sing up that's it problem solved....
all you guys are bitches for crying over bullshit. MMI was the best school i could have ever gone to. The way they teach you is amazing. they drill it in your head and make sure you know what your doing. Tutoring is free and i did it just to be more confident in the work i was doing. Honda instructors at the Orlando campus sure know how to teach. Ive done 6months in hondpro and 3 months in yamapro. to get a job you cant just slap your certificates on the table and expect a job.
@MassacreSound Be sure to take the Harley course. You will be swamped with work with all the broken piece of shit Hardly-Ablesons out there. :-) -GUARANTEED job security!
this school is definetely a scam... reps even lie to students about courses they offer to get kids there.. a few years ago the school was legit but its ben commercialized. good luck getting a job. that 98% placement rate is complete bullshit. most students i know here only know one person whos gotten a job. also they offer no job placement like they claim. a large group of students and myself have a lawsuit in the making against the school. my advice is dont bother. job shadow instead
@dtsf89 I would love some info on this lawsuit, i want to get in on it, i live in canada and am considered to have zero education ater MMI, no cert no nothing.
@dtsf89 As a 2002 graduate, I agree. I would consider joining the lawsuit if it is still active. I also applied to work at another UTI school. I have an advanced degree in Adult Education and also their own certificate from MMI. After five interviews they just dropped me. I don't mind not getting the job...it's just weird. Maybe because I told one interview group that "not everyone SHOULD get a certificate if it was the wrong career choice.
@dtsf89 As a 2002 graduate, I agree. I would consider joining the lawsuit if it is still active. I also applied to work at another UTI school. I have an advanced degree in Adult Education and also their own certificate from MMI. After five interviews they just dropped me. I don't mind not getting the job...it's just weird. Maybe because I told one interview group that "not everyone SHOULD get a certificate if it was the wrong career choice.
@dtsf89 a large group of students and myself have a lawsuit in the making against the school. previous grad of the marine is there that the same law suit
not worth the money... u learn alot but they keep raising the price and they dont care about the students all the services suck......i graduated from yamapro perfect grades and the only employment help they give u is they tell u to find the shops and get the number and they will call them to see if they are hiring
I am about to graduate in a month from the phoenix campus. This school is in no way worth the money you pay to attend. In my experience this school is a joke. You really learn nothing more about working on motorcycles than you get out of a service manual. The greater majority of the instructors have been here too long and are tired of answering the same stupid questions, and giving the same boring lectures day in and day out. They are their for the paycheck only. Dont wast you money.
I'm about done w/ Clinic #1. True, the classes are overcrowded and I waste half the time waiting for instructor verification before moving onto the next assignment. But I agree, don't let that stop you from attending school! Just be prepared to deal with asshole classmates who make themselves out as "experts" and will do everything in their power to convince you that THEY are right and you are WRONG.
... and you also gotta deal with the fucking assholes that gotta mke jokes every minute. there are never enough tools for projects, there are never enough supplies. the 'instruction' is atleast over five yrs old! all in all wat you'll be paying for is the MMI name...
if you ask me your gona get rippd off.. i feel like i did... first of all just let me say there are great instructors there n they are great teachers. but, wat your in for here is a whole lotta BULLSHIT. u gotta deal with oversized classes, you gotta sit next to a bunch of 'know it alls' bcuz everyones an 'expert.' the classrooms stink cuz the ventalation system isnt that great....
I hear you w/ the "know-it-alls"! I'm about finished w/ Clinic #1 and it's been nothing but a dick swinging competition on who can get their projects done the fastest w/out using the service manual...because according to the "experts" in the class, service manuals are for pussies.
Check around before you go. I'm hearing from real world mechanics that it costs A LOT and you're guaranteed to start at around $10 an hour max. On that you can't even pay back the student loans.
HAHA this is so true. I graduated from BMW and Suzuki in 06. The school is worthless. Starting pay for a tech is about $10. Basically all you learn is how to change a tire. In this industry its all about connections and who you know. Go to a supercross/motocross race and ask the techs if they went to MMI and they will all say no. I got on a race team because I worked with a guy who does it. Dont waste your money.
Well no shit if your gonna work at some gay ass dealership your not gonna make a dime.... you need to go big and start your own shop and then make the benjamins hell yea
I'm really interested in getting involved with this school. Any advice? How much are you making, how easy was it to get a job out of the program etc etc
depending on location,skill,and salary negotiating skills. a top level tech makes between 21-35 dollars per hour. a new tech who is good ,probably about 16-20
MMI is a good school. I graduated in September of '05. I had a great time, made a lot of great friends, and learned a lot. However, don't expect to get rich as a motorcycle mechanic on Harleys or import bikes. I soon found out after graduation that MMI grads are a dime-a-dozen. If you don't like what they pay, they say, "Fine. We'll just hire some other MMI rookie for $9/hr." Not an industry to make any money, that's for sure.
Depends on what you take. So far Im taking Honda and Beemer and it is 25K. Im taking it all out on a loan and I have 10 years to pay it back after i Graduate. I think the payments are going to be 189 a month. How much you make depends on what shop you work at. I chose BMW because it looks good on a resume, and BMW techs make a lot of money. If I were you, I would take 1 import of choice and either Harley or BMW, or both if you can afford it.
Well my program cost is about 27000 and that for honda and kawasaki and specialty n honda and i am a senior in high school i got accepted in august 2009 and i leave to star school august 30 ,2010
lmao why cuz u got kicked out for ur stupidity by not doin wat u soposed and dint learn shit and now u blaiming the skool.lol shiiiiit im still in that bitch and im already making money..
I left the school in 1990,besides got some good points for the job were i live.
To bad i couldn't complete the full course of studies,if i kept the job as a mechanic i would have complete it one day. . .. this school works great and theres a lot of nice people. . .mostly Bro's
i am a 1998 MMI grad. deans list. zero hours missed. motorcycle mechanics need to get unionised to get better pay. i left the industry to goto the diesel industry for easier work for more money, better benefits...bitter about leaving what i loved doing. motorcycle mechanics dont get a living wage. its a dead end street while fat cats get richer and richer. Harley could step in and make minimum wage but they don't. customer suffers because of lack of experienced mechanics. sad.
240P??? They couldn't even upload a HD video????
tenchidbz 2 weeks ago
I graduated from MMI in 2005. My first industry job was at an aftermarket shop paying $10/hr. I got an offer 6 months later from a Harley dealer for $12/hr. After 2 months they bumped me up to $13 and then fired me less than year later because I was looking for a job that paid more. Found another job at a dealership starting at $9. They said the most they could pay me $11/hr. I'm still paying for that student loan, but I'm making nearly $20/hr now driving a delivery truck. Go figure.
pianoman1969 1 month ago
I'm interested in hearing what you have to say. I was talking to an MMI rep today, and have on and off for about 6 months. I have the forms in my email box and am waiting to send them in. Let me know. I don't want to get dicked again by another shitty school Just attended AIU for 1 1/2 years and that school totally sucked.
Vetsophrenic 2 months ago
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motorhead1 3 months ago
Wow, pay 25k to come in the field and me 10/HR. Sounds smart.
o9yamyrider 3 months ago
I graduated in Jan. 1994 and it's STILL hard finding a job. I STARVE every winter and when I do work, the pay usually sucks. They've flooded the job market with rookies that only last a year or 2 if they manage to find a job. I still do it because I LOVE motorcycles... I wish I'd become a chef though. Tired of being hungry and broke. I've got bitchin' bike though.
psyclepath1964 4 months ago
When I went ...I was promissed a box of tools & JOB placement.
Find a old shop that well established and offer to work for free if you have to.
Learn from the old timers,anyone down there willing to teach or show you.
ANYWAY.... kids I'm 59 & still bitter take my advice or not...good luck.
leerider52 5 months ago
stop whining people, i'm from Greece and i went to a school that i thought was the equivalent of MMI or Wyotech. After i finished i decided i want to move to the States to live.But then i found out that me degree was nothing in America, worthless, just a piece of paper. Somebody even told me that the education at my school, apart from the technical courses, is the equivalent of a hischool in America. A HIGHSCHOOL. all i'm saying is, if you have to go, go ask them about everything, they can't lie
gionisalex 5 months ago
@gionisalex LOL... they can lie, and they do. I am going to MMI, Orlando for over a year now. If I learned anything... I know how to lie.
RichSweat1 5 months ago
@RichSweat1 I graduated from MMI, Phoenix in 2002. I got a couple of low paying jobs at Harley dealers, but not much else.
gnosticauthor 4 months ago
@gionisalex LOL... they can lie, and they do. I am going to MMI, Orlando for over a year now. If I learned anything... I know how to lie. There is very little work here (while you are in school), and the help that you get on finding a job is... Look On The Net.
RichSweat1 5 months ago
@RichSweat1 what i meant to say, was that, when you go to sign up at a school of this kind, don't just sign papers willy nilly, you should ask specific questions and demand documented answers in plain English, not the fancy terms they use so you don't understand anything...and finally, don't just rely on the school to take care of your life, because you are the only one able to do this. MMI will provide you with a degree and some basic knowledge, so it's up to you to put that in good use
gionisalex 5 months ago
@RichSweat1 and if I learned something from them, is that, those kind of schools are corporations, and corporations have one thing in mind, PROFIT...
gionisalex 5 months ago
I would concentrate on being a Hardly-Ableson technician. All of these bikes need to be constantly worked on and break often. Shit, If I just concentrated on being a OIL LEAK specialist, I would be filthy rich in no time. :-)
waterfordjim 6 months ago
If you go to school for them to find a job for you ... dude ... go back to WalMart seriously. You go there to study and they help you give small steps towards your carreer job but they are never employment agencies, they are just a school where you learn to after-perform. Just stand up, print resumes, build a portfolio/website and go look for a job.
RookieMatt 6 months ago
I got a close friend that is there with like 6 months tio go... he's holding a 4.0 (he has previous mechanic experience) and loves it... he's already got an offer for Harley Davidson Australia... fact is the trolls are disgruntled cant hack crybaby bitches... anyone condiering this school... go for it... just dont go in with a "bad attitude" like your a cool biker... because that doesn't mean anything there, they want professional techs, not tards in leather and neon foam spike fags...
wolfizwatchin 6 months ago 2
What a bunch of Sallies MMI did you guy's a favor and got rid of before you ruined someone elses education. The truth is, you can't really handle this industry. They would chew you up and spit you right back into baggin groceries. Sorry didn't mean to bag on the baggers, we need you guy's too. (Thanks for what you do). You cry about how MMI can't find you a job. Find your own. Bet your mommies walked you to school the first day. huh.
Hogsangels 8 months ago
FUCK MMI!! DONT DO IT, YOU WILL BE TREATED LIKE SHIT IN THE INDUSTRY, CLOWNS OFF THE STREET WILL GET PAYED MORE THAN YOU, MMI IS A WAIST OF MONEY, I REGRET IT SO MUCH I WANT TO KILL MYSELF, I HAD SO MUCH MONEY AND THREW IT AWAY TO BE BROKE AND NEVER RIDE, I NEVER HAVE AND I NEVER WILL RIDE, FUCK M M I. IF I COULD GO BACK I WOULD NEVER GO TO SCHOOL, EDUCATION AND HARD WORK WILL GET YOU NOWHERE!!
wooftickets 9 months ago
@wooftickets When did you get FUCKED by MMI.........I was in the third graduating class???
leerider52 5 months ago
I'm singing up to mmi on Phoenix Az... just had a call 4th them... And I'm 4rm palmdale C.A Realy don't care what u guy say about it I just think u guy don't pay really attention ooooo and jobs are not Realy ganna come to u......... Get your lazy asses up and look..... Or just don't even sing up that's it problem solved....
1nfamous87 10 months ago
all you guys are bitches for crying over bullshit. MMI was the best school i could have ever gone to. The way they teach you is amazing. they drill it in your head and make sure you know what your doing. Tutoring is free and i did it just to be more confident in the work i was doing. Honda instructors at the Orlando campus sure know how to teach. Ive done 6months in hondpro and 3 months in yamapro. to get a job you cant just slap your certificates on the table and expect a job.
MassacreSound 1 year ago
@MassacreSound hahah good stuff dude you make 20 bucks and hour....kill yourself hahaha
Fan4ManUnited 11 months ago
@MassacreSound Be sure to take the Harley course. You will be swamped with work with all the broken piece of shit Hardly-Ablesons out there. :-) -GUARANTEED job security!
waterfordjim 6 months ago
this school is definetely a scam... reps even lie to students about courses they offer to get kids there.. a few years ago the school was legit but its ben commercialized. good luck getting a job. that 98% placement rate is complete bullshit. most students i know here only know one person whos gotten a job. also they offer no job placement like they claim. a large group of students and myself have a lawsuit in the making against the school. my advice is dont bother. job shadow instead
dtsf89 1 year ago 6
@dtsf89 I would love some info on this lawsuit, i want to get in on it, i live in canada and am considered to have zero education ater MMI, no cert no nothing.
wooftickets 9 months ago
@dtsf89 As a 2002 graduate, I agree. I would consider joining the lawsuit if it is still active. I also applied to work at another UTI school. I have an advanced degree in Adult Education and also their own certificate from MMI. After five interviews they just dropped me. I don't mind not getting the job...it's just weird. Maybe because I told one interview group that "not everyone SHOULD get a certificate if it was the wrong career choice.
gnosticauthor 4 months ago
@dtsf89 As a 2002 graduate, I agree. I would consider joining the lawsuit if it is still active. I also applied to work at another UTI school. I have an advanced degree in Adult Education and also their own certificate from MMI. After five interviews they just dropped me. I don't mind not getting the job...it's just weird. Maybe because I told one interview group that "not everyone SHOULD get a certificate if it was the wrong career choice.
gnosticauthor 4 months ago
@dtsf89 a large group of students and myself have a lawsuit in the making against the school. previous grad of the marine is there that the same law suit
mercnut1 1 month ago
not worth the money... u learn alot but they keep raising the price and they dont care about the students all the services suck......i graduated from yamapro perfect grades and the only employment help they give u is they tell u to find the shops and get the number and they will call them to see if they are hiring
nicholas22288 1 year ago
i have after market shops beggin me to bring my mmi creds to their shops. my first job is performance engine building. ^^
0R33D0 1 year ago
no matter what you are going to have someone bitch about something if you cant find a job dont bitch at the school get off your ass and look
spudmonkey14 1 year ago
How about that my comment got eraced
leerider52 1 year ago
wel i start mmi april 26 and mine cost 24000 foe suzuki n kawasaki so ill see you guys dar holla
gotbeef1000 1 year ago
I am about to graduate in a month from the phoenix campus. This school is in no way worth the money you pay to attend. In my experience this school is a joke. You really learn nothing more about working on motorcycles than you get out of a service manual. The greater majority of the instructors have been here too long and are tired of answering the same stupid questions, and giving the same boring lectures day in and day out. They are their for the paycheck only. Dont wast you money.
deeppow22 1 year ago
Hell yea man Im in Orlando and its the same shit here.
badseedtomtom 1 year ago
I did a year 3/20/89 to 12/22/89 . Orlando FL. Joke. Wasted my money & Time. (96.8 Avg)
118Chewey 1 year ago
I'm about done w/ Clinic #1. True, the classes are overcrowded and I waste half the time waiting for instructor verification before moving onto the next assignment. But I agree, don't let that stop you from attending school! Just be prepared to deal with asshole classmates who make themselves out as "experts" and will do everything in their power to convince you that THEY are right and you are WRONG.
phatphuck1792 2 years ago
still attending i dont even know if its worth it.
feifong1 2 years ago
... and you also gotta deal with the fucking assholes that gotta mke jokes every minute. there are never enough tools for projects, there are never enough supplies. the 'instruction' is atleast over five yrs old! all in all wat you'll be paying for is the MMI name...
r3ddethkil 2 years ago
if you ask me your gona get rippd off.. i feel like i did... first of all just let me say there are great instructors there n they are great teachers. but, wat your in for here is a whole lotta BULLSHIT. u gotta deal with oversized classes, you gotta sit next to a bunch of 'know it alls' bcuz everyones an 'expert.' the classrooms stink cuz the ventalation system isnt that great....
r3ddethkil 2 years ago
I hear you w/ the "know-it-alls"! I'm about finished w/ Clinic #1 and it's been nothing but a dick swinging competition on who can get their projects done the fastest w/out using the service manual...because according to the "experts" in the class, service manuals are for pussies.
phatphuck1792 2 years ago
yea schools going 2 cost me 30000 ,but i just wanna repair & ride motorcycles...
kawasakibroncosfan 2 years ago
well im startin next march and its gonna cost me about 23000 for mmi and the honda training
kfx450rider3489 2 years ago
Check around before you go. I'm hearing from real world mechanics that it costs A LOT and you're guaranteed to start at around $10 an hour max. On that you can't even pay back the student loans.
velveetaslingshot 2 years ago
HAHA this is so true. I graduated from BMW and Suzuki in 06. The school is worthless. Starting pay for a tech is about $10. Basically all you learn is how to change a tire. In this industry its all about connections and who you know. Go to a supercross/motocross race and ask the techs if they went to MMI and they will all say no. I got on a race team because I worked with a guy who does it. Dont waste your money.
ilovegold2 2 years ago
Well no shit if your gonna work at some gay ass dealership your not gonna make a dime.... you need to go big and start your own shop and then make the benjamins hell yea
Kawarider288 2 years ago
I'm really interested in getting involved with this school. Any advice? How much are you making, how easy was it to get a job out of the program etc etc
ryanboyce1 2 years ago
How much do motorbike mechanics get?
AzerMate 2 years ago
depending on location,skill,and salary negotiating skills. a top level tech makes between 21-35 dollars per hour. a new tech who is good ,probably about 16-20
nurev187 2 years ago
ok i saw the other messages but i really want to no if its really worth going here
and how much would a motorcycle tehnition make?
Gsxrmbueno14 2 years ago
how much does it cost to go to mmi? i love motorcycles
Gsxrmbueno14 2 years ago
me to i go to the one in Phoenix. i love that school. You Learn a lot going there
bornarydah 2 years ago
I'm going to MMI now in Phoenix. I like it, and they teach you a lot very quickly. Good place.
Gixxer6Rdr 2 years ago
hey mmi if your course is so great lets see some stats on employment rates and pay of the average graduates...reality bites doesnt it....
kaelAJgurl 2 years ago 4
MMI is a good school. I graduated in September of '05. I had a great time, made a lot of great friends, and learned a lot. However, don't expect to get rich as a motorcycle mechanic on Harleys or import bikes. I soon found out after graduation that MMI grads are a dime-a-dozen. If you don't like what they pay, they say, "Fine. We'll just hire some other MMI rookie for $9/hr." Not an industry to make any money, that's for sure.
pianoman1969 3 years ago
Can anyone tell me if this program is worth it? Thx
packagetolebanon 3 years ago
i go 2 mmi now is okbut florida suck ass
83impalass 3 years ago
how much does the school cost
YungMafiaFam 2 years ago
Depends on what you take. So far Im taking Honda and Beemer and it is 25K. Im taking it all out on a loan and I have 10 years to pay it back after i Graduate. I think the payments are going to be 189 a month. How much you make depends on what shop you work at. I chose BMW because it looks good on a resume, and BMW techs make a lot of money. If I were you, I would take 1 import of choice and either Harley or BMW, or both if you can afford it.
milleb 2 years ago
Well my program cost is about 27000 and that for honda and kawasaki and specialty n honda and i am a senior in high school i got accepted in august 2009 and i leave to star school august 30 ,2010
BDOPLab 2 years ago
these videos are a pile of bullshit
MassacreSound 3 years ago
lmao why cuz u got kicked out for ur stupidity by not doin wat u soposed and dint learn shit and now u blaiming the skool.lol shiiiiit im still in that bitch and im already making money..
bornarydah 2 years ago
shut the fuck up ya cunt you have no idea who i am and what the fuck im doin. ill school you
MassacreSound 2 years ago
@MassacreSound we know who you are your a dumbass! And we know what you do in school to bad jerking off dosent count as credit.
MrTrumador 7 months ago
I left the school in 1990,besides got some good points for the job were i live.
To bad i couldn't complete the full course of studies,if i kept the job as a mechanic i would have complete it one day. . .. this school works great and theres a lot of nice people. . .mostly Bro's
ambaradan66 3 years ago
LoL,,,
well,,, Im happy for you,,,
I just wish they had it in Lake Havasu Arizona instead of Pheonix, or in florida.
Us old timers have other things we have to do other than go to school all the time...
and dont like the idea of driving 2-3 hours a day... I wouldnt mind, but dont like pheonix,,, to big,,,hard to drive throuhg...
spdrmnstr1 3 years ago
i am a 1998 MMI grad. deans list. zero hours missed. motorcycle mechanics need to get unionised to get better pay. i left the industry to goto the diesel industry for easier work for more money, better benefits...bitter about leaving what i loved doing. motorcycle mechanics dont get a living wage. its a dead end street while fat cats get richer and richer. Harley could step in and make minimum wage but they don't. customer suffers because of lack of experienced mechanics. sad.
67genxer 3 years ago