Roscoe was a huge, huge influence on the movie industry in general, and at one time one of the biggest stars in the world. He helped give many great stars their start: Charlie Chaplin, The Inimitable Buster Keaton, Bob Hope, etc. By all reports he was a kind, gentle person whom everyone liked and respected. And to this day that ridiculous scandal started by a horrible woman still hovers around his legacy...what a shame and what a waste.
Its true, Arbuckle was the highest paid for a short while. They signed him to a three year, $3,000.000 contract, which is around $40,000,000 in todays money, after adjusting for 90 years of inflation. but he had a contract to make up to 18 movies. consider stars like tom cruise or john travolta make $20 million per picture. So Arbuckle's salary PER movie, was not so much. but then take into account the fact that we really dont know what movies made money and what lost money.
I wonder what these folks would have said if you told them 90 years in the future people would have the ability to watch this in the palm of their hand while taking a break on a hike?
This film posting seems to be presented at a frame rate close to the speed it was shot at. So, it does not have the frantic look that so many silent films have. Silent films were recorded at various frame rates, but the standard was 16 frames per second, while the "modern" sound movie standard was (and is) 24 fps. Compare this posting to "Fatty in Coney Island". You'll see the difference.
@FarnhazenBrep I always wondered about that, now i know. I always wondered why all the footage from the great war seemed to be at a high speed. my Chemistry teacher in H.S. explained to me something about the acids in the film but that was over 30 years ago if you could shed some light on that for me I would appreciate it
Well, the chemistry of the film (acids) could not alter the speed of the film, unless the "speed" referred to is the film's light sensitivity. But, that's an entirely different subject.
I'm not versed enough in the history of film to know just how things evolved, but I do know this: most film projectors run at 24 frames per second (fps). It is rare to find one that has the option of 16fps. So, many of the videos we see were made by copying films at the wrong speed.
Roscoe Arbuckle was not guilty. What Brady and the yellow journalists did to him was a crime. He deserved a hell of a lot better. A hell of a lot. Buster Keaton was right when he said he died of a broken heart.
Speaking of Keaton, a true pro to the end. His last performance in 1966's A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, he was deathly ill from cancer. The cast were greatly impressed with Keaton's drive and work ethic.
He inserted an empty coke bottle into Virginia Rappe's vagina because he was angry that he could not get an erection through being too drunk. This led to a ruptured bladder and pirintinitus and internal bleeding from which she died. It was at the very least manslaughter.
@pingtran It makes me sad to see the same old things being said about Roscoe Arbuckle. If you get a chance, read The day the laughter stopped by Davis Yallop. This isn't based in hearsay and gossip by but on what was actually proven in court. The medical evidence on Virgina Rappe makes very interesting reading....
@pingtran yea, I read that sensationalized version in a comic book also. However, if you want the REAL story, go to Wikipedia and read the complete article about his life and his 3 trials. The third jury was out for 6 hours. They used 1 hour to decide he was innocent and the other 5 were used in writing an apology to him for the shabby treatment he endured at the hands of a crooked and ambitious DA and lying or coerced witnesses. The next best thing to "The Day The Laughter Stopped".
@genatzvalee Yeah, that part made me die a little inside. The rest of the film had some good moments though, and I loved seeing Buster with the cigar and Western hat.
The Mighty Wurlitzer gets all the credit these days lol, or many think silent movies are all accompanied by "The Entertainer" or "The Maple Leaf Rag" on the piano. I'd love to own a fotoplayer, but I don't have the room, money, or repair skills. Plus, they are very hard to find, and most need to be rebuilt.
Even now people are making their own scores to these silent films. However the muisc is modern, with synthesizer sounds. I personally feel that soundtracks added to silent films should be music that sounds like it the style of music from the year the film was released or earlier.
@organist45 If you look throw the older comments on this video, you will see that is the 3rd of three comments I made on this film, in which the first comment I made was my positive reaction to the fotoplayer soundtrack. The comment your replying to is my general opinion about silent films where the soundtrack used is a modern synthesizor.
Poor guy being accused :/
ChidoDeLaSierra 6 days ago
the doug heffernan of the 1920s
obaidCarkey 1 week ago
Roscoe was a huge, huge influence on the movie industry in general, and at one time one of the biggest stars in the world. He helped give many great stars their start: Charlie Chaplin, The Inimitable Buster Keaton, Bob Hope, etc. By all reports he was a kind, gentle person whom everyone liked and respected. And to this day that ridiculous scandal started by a horrible woman still hovers around his legacy...what a shame and what a waste.
eMuse5 1 month ago
I prefer to call him Roscoe, seeing as he hated the name Fatty.
katiedavis1997 1 month ago 2
Its true, Arbuckle was the highest paid for a short while. They signed him to a three year, $3,000.000 contract, which is around $40,000,000 in todays money, after adjusting for 90 years of inflation. but he had a contract to make up to 18 movies. consider stars like tom cruise or john travolta make $20 million per picture. So Arbuckle's salary PER movie, was not so much. but then take into account the fact that we really dont know what movies made money and what lost money.
thevealchop68 2 months ago
The producer Joseph Schenk married Norma Talmadge. Buster Keaton married Constance Talmadge.
thevealchop68 2 months ago
@thevealchop68 Actually Buster married Natalie Talmadge...whom I otherwise refer to as "HER" in a dark tone of voice...
eMuse5 1 month ago
Fatty was the highest paid actor at the time.
jjcatful 2 months ago
he was only proved not guilty once, the other two were mistrials. you only have to be proved innocent once in the good ol USA
r0llskyay0 3 months ago
Loved it. Thank you. Must continue watching the rest. ^.^
beatingbrahms 3 months ago
i'm going to travel back in time to 1920 with a DVD of the matrix!
Rudas2007 4 months ago
I wonder what these folks would have said if you told them 90 years in the future people would have the ability to watch this in the palm of their hand while taking a break on a hike?
spazzman90 5 months ago
This film posting seems to be presented at a frame rate close to the speed it was shot at. So, it does not have the frantic look that so many silent films have. Silent films were recorded at various frame rates, but the standard was 16 frames per second, while the "modern" sound movie standard was (and is) 24 fps. Compare this posting to "Fatty in Coney Island". You'll see the difference.
F Brep
FarnhazenBrep 5 months ago
@FarnhazenBrep I always wondered about that, now i know. I always wondered why all the footage from the great war seemed to be at a high speed. my Chemistry teacher in H.S. explained to me something about the acids in the film but that was over 30 years ago if you could shed some light on that for me I would appreciate it
1979mackdriver 3 months ago
@1979mackdriver
Well, the chemistry of the film (acids) could not alter the speed of the film, unless the "speed" referred to is the film's light sensitivity. But, that's an entirely different subject.
I'm not versed enough in the history of film to know just how things evolved, but I do know this: most film projectors run at 24 frames per second (fps). It is rare to find one that has the option of 16fps. So, many of the videos we see were made by copying films at the wrong speed.
FarnhazenBrep 3 months ago
@FarnhazenBrep Thanks thats more than I knew 5 days ago appreciate the reply. The most crucial chemistry was Arbuckle and Keaton though.
1979mackdriver 3 months ago
Roscoe Arbuckle was not guilty. What Brady and the yellow journalists did to him was a crime. He deserved a hell of a lot better. A hell of a lot. Buster Keaton was right when he said he died of a broken heart.
Speaking of Keaton, a true pro to the end. His last performance in 1966's A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, he was deathly ill from cancer. The cast were greatly impressed with Keaton's drive and work ethic.
Two great performers here.
lawrence142002 7 months ago 2
@lawrence142002 Very true, all this. It's a huge loss in the history of film industry that Arbuckle's career was destroyed.
bobslightbulb 5 months ago
Better than Avatar.
staphinfection 9 months ago 7
He was a genius. Fuck off San Francisco Examiner!
elcondeyutubero 9 months ago
i saw movie named gold miner (1920) at i think 27.12.2010 in finland it was great movie :D
TheArzonite 10 months ago
Fatty was a genius!
Djrockewfewtimez986 1 year ago
Which one is Fatty?
IP0Monsturd 1 year ago 3
@IP0Monsturd Just a wild guess, but maybe, the fat one? Hmmmmmm
colasweet1 10 months ago
Pretty damn awesome!
marvchomer 1 year ago
@marvchomer you can say that again.
nizzle1931 1 year ago
buster keaton is the great stone face and fatty arbukle is a hobknocker and a hobo
rlbluver 1 year ago
He inserted an empty coke bottle into Virginia Rappe's vagina because he was angry that he could not get an erection through being too drunk. This led to a ruptured bladder and pirintinitus and internal bleeding from which she died. It was at the very least manslaughter.
pingtran 1 year ago
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TheDivineMrsMiggins 1 year ago
@pingtran It makes me sad to see the same old things being said about Roscoe Arbuckle. If you get a chance, read The day the laughter stopped by Davis Yallop. This isn't based in hearsay and gossip by but on what was actually proven in court. The medical evidence on Virgina Rappe makes very interesting reading....
TheDivineMrsMiggins 1 year ago
@pingtran yea, I read that sensationalized version in a comic book also. However, if you want the REAL story, go to Wikipedia and read the complete article about his life and his 3 trials. The third jury was out for 6 hours. They used 1 hour to decide he was innocent and the other 5 were used in writing an apology to him for the shabby treatment he endured at the hands of a crooked and ambitious DA and lying or coerced witnesses. The next best thing to "The Day The Laughter Stopped".
lmbullock522 1 year ago
Masters of physical comedy.
libearian 1 year ago
Yeah i did see that no smoking sign way back then wow!
I LOVE these old movies! Look at those beautiful old cars!
Beautiful movie. Thanks for putting it up! Thumbs up for me!
SuicideisBrainLess 1 year ago
haha!!
ClassicMovieClub 1 year ago
Does anybody notice the NO SMOKING sign???
tog20 1 year ago
Being a comedian was rugged work in
those days.
"I Love Lucy" had a car falling apart 35 years
after this film.
Tnx 4 the fun post.
rockgor 2 years ago
Whenever I watch "Tommy Boy" Chris Farley and David Spade always remind me a bit of a modern-day Fatty and Buster. xD
tygersflowerz 2 years ago
@tygersflowerz comparing Master Buster Keaton to the pimple David Spade is
more than a mistake it is a outrageous and horrible and difficult to comprehend...
Spade is a pitiful begger of a thespian ...Buster is the Ultimate
rentatrip1 1 year ago 2
@rentatrip1 Interesting opinion.
tygersflowerz 1 year ago
@rentatrip1 i lol'd at the david spade rant. nice.
dubbie17 1 year ago
@rentatrip1 You are correct, sir.
eMuse5 1 month ago
I enjoy this film a lot. In fact, there's no Fatty/Buster film I don't like (well, maybe "Out West, but it's mostly because of that racist scene).
Buster used some of the gags from here in his later short "The Blacksmith" but in all fairness this film is far superior.
genatzvalee 2 years ago
@genatzvalee Yeah, that part made me die a little inside. The rest of the film had some good moments though, and I loved seeing Buster with the cigar and Western hat.
eMuse5 1 month ago
no tiene sonido esto??
deftlink 2 years ago
7:11 This was before filmmakers were allowed to cut to close up shots. Actors had to move towards the camera.
drmoonrat 2 years ago
poor fatty arbuckle, for the way the media and the public who persumed he murded someone even though on 3 occassions he was proved not guilty.
y0utubemetube 2 years ago 23
@y0utubemetube Isn't it chilling to realize that nothing has changed in nearly 100 years?
vankook 5 months ago
@y0utubemetube Things never change do they?
Guilty until proven innocent 3 times, and even that is not enough.
mrmootheirrev 4 months ago
@y0utubemetube I know its terrible :(
950jazzy 3 months ago
before arbuckle there was nothing.
26highstreet 2 years ago
klassik cinema
fluffydolly 2 years ago
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Thank you for this beautiful vídeo and music.
Silent movies are a TREASURE ,WONDERFUL.
I love BUSTER KEATON .
marciatorresstar 2 years ago
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marciatorresstar 2 years ago
2:45, uber!
saberswing 2 years ago
that was totally devoid of of laughs and i now know why everyone said film would just be a fad.
mjmymjmy 2 years ago 2
I really agree know wonder nobody had t.v.'s
mwowm1306 2 years ago
lol buster had a good few laughs in coney island at fatty and he cried a bit too lol, i love it when all 3 of them fall in the water
prettyparisian 2 years ago
they are still funny after 88 years.
tomitstube 3 years ago 7
fatty and buster were the best
cremesupreme 3 years ago 4
fatty smoke so much weed it isnt funny
stanley4889 3 years ago
Is that a smile I see at 2:48? ;)
S2HVU 3 years ago
Yes! In fact, he was LAUGHING!!
moonshiny74 3 years ago
I like the use of a fotoplayer recording for the music score.
1947Desoto 3 years ago
Yes! A rare opportunity to hear one in action. A forgotten part of cinema history.
gdw1910 2 years ago
The Mighty Wurlitzer gets all the credit these days lol, or many think silent movies are all accompanied by "The Entertainer" or "The Maple Leaf Rag" on the piano. I'd love to own a fotoplayer, but I don't have the room, money, or repair skills. Plus, they are very hard to find, and most need to be rebuilt.
1947Desoto 2 years ago
i think a lot of the organ music was added in the 1950s to these old silent films and have stayed with them ever since
26highstreet 2 years ago 2
Even now people are making their own scores to these silent films. However the muisc is modern, with synthesizer sounds. I personally feel that soundtracks added to silent films should be music that sounds like it the style of music from the year the film was released or earlier.
1947Desoto 2 years ago 19
@1947Desoto
How is old time music played on a photoplayer to modern for this film?
photoplayers were around a short time before the theatre organ came into use.
organist45 3 months ago
@organist45 If you look throw the older comments on this video, you will see that is the 3rd of three comments I made on this film, in which the first comment I made was my positive reaction to the fotoplayer soundtrack. The comment your replying to is my general opinion about silent films where the soundtrack used is a modern synthesizor.
1947Desoto 3 months ago