We've recently did a story on how Exercise Light Therapy can help cure winter depression. Maybe it's helpful for depression in general. It's on our channel if anyone's interested.
i have occasional bouts of depression but these can turn to suicidal thoughts. i know i don't want to but i feel like it is an endless falling sensation but i can't tell anyone what it fells like . i even feel it hard to type this out.
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Depression is a black hole that you fall into..... you fall, fall, fall, fall...... into this nothingness with no bottom...... YOU NEVER HIT THE BOTTOM. You just fall...
Depression is absolutely horrid. I wake up every morning feeling hopeless and exhausted. This video has been so useful. Stephen Fry likens Depression to a 'Void'. And it's so true. It feels like there's nothingness in your life.
I recommend Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. I've been following it for 2 years and it's helped me to find about the mental messages I have and how these have shaped my Depression.
Depression is crippling but I try hard to beat it. I also have aspergers syndrome dyspraxia, born deaf and clinical depression all formally diagnosed and possible ADHD. Stephen Fry has done well really with his comebacks. Please look at my own vids, especially of how MIND-RETHINK treated my Mum in hospital and the corrupt South Yorkshire Police harassing me at my house last week. If you can help, PLEASE do. We've tried so hard ourselves but get unlawfully blocked. Keep up the fight people.
what if there is this person who is incredibly dopey/dumb, like i cant even tell you how much. and they are bullied about it, from friends and family all the time. the bullying is never going to stop is it, because the dopiness is a part of their personality and they arent going to change. does that make the bullying ok?
good sign showing that there is a part of that actually WANTS to live and get better and feel happy and enjoy life..
I like how they explain that what helps are the simple little things and actions such as exercise and getting out of the house. The only problem with me is that just when I get ready to go outside I start having a panic attack. So that adds to the problem.. But I'll keep going, cos I do want to get better.
@TheAtomicusBomb: lol! I love the idea of "Depression Expo"! I think it w
good sign showing that there is a part of that actually WANTS to live and get better and feel happy and enjoy life..
I like how they explain that what helps are the simple little things and actions such as exercise and getting out of the house. The only problem with me is that just when I get ready to go outside I start having a panic attack. So that adds to the problem.. But I'll keep going, cos I do want to get better.
@TheAtomicusBomb: lol! I love the idea of "Depression Expo"! I think it w
Oh, and Thank you to everyone here who has left a post and shared their experiences!! I feel much lighter now knowing that there actual living and feeling people out there who know through experience how I feel. I don't feel as alone any more..
@DrNjtp: you have basically put into words my own experience! The only thing is I cud never do it cos I am too much of a chicken and also I get this awful historical crying as if I've already died! It's very frightening!! But perhaps it's a goo sign show
Thank you SO much (whichever production company it is) for making this documentary and showing people's experience and how they've coped with them! I can't express how much support it gives me to be able to see these issues being voiced AND put out there!! Am being someone how is even now is coping through a familiar experience I cannot express how much support it gives when people around you have the knowledge and understating if what is going on with you! AND it's helping make the general pub
Whoever doubts the effects of depression has quite obviously never been through it. Depression is like a cancer, it can get worse and worse unless treated. I myself am going through depression. It comes and goes in waves, it eats you from the inside. I don't wish it on the doubters or skeptics because it can be hell, I just wish they would realize their own ignorance and try their best to help someone who they think or know is depressed. This way we will have less and less suicides per year fro
Stephen Fry's self-loathing has gone too far as to seek the sympathy of his audience under the false pretense of "mental illness". What a cheap advertisement, if I'd seen any. I wonder how much money the American Psychiatric Association payed him for this gimmic...
yes exactly! and i should already know because it's nothing new to me.
but since it's not all that bad at the moment (like you said, it does not cause real misery.. and i do know how that feels like! i'm just very lazy and unmotivated and, well... feel lonely) i think it's all but impossible to make a start...
As a teenager I had some bouts of depression and loneliness.
Now I only have loneliness without the bouts of depression, or at least ones so mild as to not cause misery. The secret was long, brisk walks for 5 kilometers a day, minimum. I don't care what else I'm planning that day, I go for my walk and it makes all the difference. I return home more talkative, energized, appetite back, sex drive back, feeling good, my thoughts break from the rumination cycle and I there is a future again.
@Jotto999 i think that's exactly how i feel... maybe i should give it a try. because to avoid leaving the house won't make you feel any better, that's for sure.
@thealphabetist You are right, not leaving the house will amplify the depression.
I think of depression as a vicious cycle. It makes you stay shut in, isolated, disrupting sleep, sitting there. But these things only make the depression come on even heavier.
For me the only reliable way to break the cycle was long brisk walks, or other prolonged physical activity (biking or jogging could do it too). This is how you can fight it.
@ddancefloor same here, my life is horrible sometimes and I've tried suicide and running away but my 5 year old niece keeps me going but it's 3:20am at Christmas and I'm sat downstairs reading law books.
I'm 17 it's 3:14am and I'm sat downstairs on Christmas reading law books. Fuck Christmas all it brings is misery and sadness I cried like 4 times today because my life is fucking horrible sometimes.
@ImAMentalPatient I feel you. I know many will say this, but keep on going. Some of the most succesful people today come from very dark beginnings. Don't believe, then check it out on the internet and you will see how many others are in your position. I hope you feel better soon
@ImAMentalPatient - don't know you but hang in there, christmas is a terrable time to be alone, and new year is not much better but hang in there, there is alot of us out there, hope the new year brings you some relief......
@pdalaigh@the90sprince Cheers guys, just got depressed alot as my birthday and christmas are all in december, well 25th and 26th to be exact and new year isnt exactly jolly for me as thats when my dad left my mum.
Just have to cope with the shit which comes my way but thanks. Appreciate it.
I'd actually say he fear has been provoked by the most intellectual thought here; it sounds quite existential and would agree with his atheism. You can see his fear is quite profound and could sound quite absurd.
im in the military, but due to my injuries in afghanistan and my post traumatic stress disorder im being medically discharged. they do provide the possiblities for my future career but with my flashbacks, lack of sleep, depression. i find it so hard to even leave my room. i currently spend 22-24hrs a day in a room on base with nothing to do and havent done anything since september. im numb, frustrated and upset yet i can barely find the strength to do anything about it.
You often find the people who are mentally ill and dont accept it never seek treatment. THey don't believe there is anything that can be done to help them. YOu often wonder what can really be done. ALot of people live in towns with poor facilities and poor mental health services and people who are not very well trained. SOme towns really have no proper mental health facilities at all and what is availible is usually just people using you for paper work
I can really empathise with Stephen Fry. Especially the part where he says he has a voice in his head telling him constantly that he's a d**k. I feel that. I feel like a complete d**k whenever I feel depressed.
depression is no laughing matter - I know tons of people who have suffered depression - supposedly a mental illness - I don't agree. Speak to someone wh has been married for 20 years then go through divorce, you wouldn't be normal if you were sad.
Stephen Fry is the only man who can articulate what a drenching and fucking hopeless state of mind depression is. Depression is like drowning - you know what to do but you cannot reenter the surface despite all efforts.
The thing that touched me the most, was Trisha's bit with 'oh, you attempted suicide'. I've had a few 'suicide' attempts myself, but during all this I was so afraid of dying that I could never go completely through with it. I always thought I was so stupid for even trying it, but.... I just wanted this feeling to go away. I just want to stop feeling numb and hurting at the same time. And I never imagined that other people felt the same way...
I definitely agree with it being a void, THE void in fact. I'm there now, clinging to the posibility that I can find reason to live - if you can't feel love there's nothing left but reason and hope, once you lose hope your powers of reason lead you to the only conclussion you're able to come to in that state, which is suicide. I owe it only to luck and ineptitude that I still live, at the moment I fear I may have learned enough to be successful in suicide.
Hey guys. obviously your all here because your suffering from depression or anxiety.
I also suffered very bad depression a few years back and until recently terrible anxiety. I struggled just to carry on. I would vomit on the pavement walking to work every day and felt understandably self continuous of this and of course i became fearful on going out with anxiety.
Things can change. Im on top of the world now - never touched a med for depression either. stay strong. dont over think and live.
My depression makes me feel queasy all the time, causes Anxiety, and gets really bad some days. I cant think about the future when im just trying to cope with the now. It would be nice to have some kind of event for people who suffer it, somthing uplifting to go to maybe a depression Expo lol, to meet others who suffer from it too, maybe give everyone a day to look forward to.
Though what's truly aggravating about having this illness and dealing with it is that most people just treat it as if it's an adolescent phase by saying, "stop being emo".
Really, it's like saying to someone who lost their arm. "Get over it." Honestly, it seems like people are just dead from the heart up to people who deal with this sort of thing. Anesthesia of compassion.
Right now, I wish i was granted one wish. I would use that to 'remove my existence' & not affect anyone who cared. Aside from a very few moments in my 30 years of living, given my intellect & looks, I don't think anything I do in the future would improve my situation (and i don't think this is my illness talking). My memory & concentration is continually withering away.
if it were up to natural selection, Id be weeded out long ago. I wish that were true.
I'ts good to know that I'm not alone in just wanting to sleep for hours and hours because not much can hurt you when your asleep and everything seems switched off.
I don't think suicidal thoughts are so unusual, especially among teenagers. I've surely never been "depressed" in a pathological sense, but I've thought about suicide several times, as I think almost everybody has.
my friends never get put in a psychiatric hospital unless you are a danger to others. They will screw you and just use as money making material to keep them in their jobs.
@londonafter Show them a vid on youtube, it's professor Robert Sapolsky on depression - goes through the neurochemistry and body chemistry that explains the exhaustion and mood - it really helped my friend understand that what he called depression and what I suffer with are very different things. :) She still hasn't really got a clue but just the fact that she knows that it's a psychiatric condition and not just a bit of everyday blues has helped a lot.
@malteeaser101 i do, we're studying depression in psychology and regularly watch clips of him and i have all the harry potter cd's so listen to him a lot of the time at home
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Also,I overcame Bi Polar disorder twice.The first time I did I got pushed off of the kind of charachter I was because 1 I was angery,sad about stuff and thats practically illegal especially not in public.And two I was genuine,I was real when I was loving people and cared about stuff it all meant something to me.And people really didnt like that so they pressured me and kicked me off.My"bi polar dissorder"then got worse,I had asperges syndromes and short term memory loss.I had a very crude mind.
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I have recently been researching the symptoms of mental illnesses. This is more in order to understand than to solve my problem, as well as to alleviate the sense of loneliness. Stephen Fry's documentary has helped me enormously, although I am yet to find a case that really fits mine. Most manic depressives, like Fry himself, have sustained manic episodes and periodical black states, but my mood swings are far more fickle, changing almost by the hour. I'm not yet ready to see a doctor though.
@arcz10 If the french came to England and saw your every day smilly social people around tables they would think you were retards.Its cultural.I get dipresed.I pay a lot of attention to the disasters in the world but I think what causes it most of all is the flatness of civilisation.I feel like whenever theres positive culture its alwayse flat and very mechanic and unsimpathetic. Its like life is an effort.Thats what causes more dipression.And the worst is when you give it convenient names.
@arcz10 I actually think dipression is normal. I think Decarte said that. because life is not satisfying. Especially approaching it from an atheistic perspective. The Big Bang is simply not enough. Also this notion that comes with it where yo just cant explaine what we are is really bad and even people who were just taught the big bang at school and found it interesting would in effect later walk around with aweful questions of what we are. I did. Basicly look at someone who is sad.
@desasterz When people make an issue about depression they're either milking it for attention, or they're not talking about your garden variety depression, they're talking about major depression - you reach a point where you don't fear death but long for it and when you attempt suicide there's this huge sense of relief that your suffering is over - we're not talking scratching wrists here we're talking massive drug overdoses, shotgun to the face type stuff. What you're talking about is... Shit.
I have struggled with depression and anxiety all my life, i am 62 years of age. In 2004 i attempted to kill myself. I have been on many different types of anti- depressants, without being helpful. I do function, i run a small business. Every day is a struggle, I spend about one third of my life feeling like it is not worth the struggle. However,i worry about someone else having to pick up the pieces if i try to kill myself again and fail. I must say however that i cannot cope with Stephen Fry
I have no idea what to do anymore. I can't pull myself out of bed in the morning. None of the things that used to make me happy give me enjoyment anymore. I'm going back to school tomorrow, and I'm terrified. I've always been an academic overachiever, until this year when I was diagnosed with clinical depression. I feel like I've lost the only thing I could ever do.I'm so scared of letting everyone else down. All I want is for the people I love to wrap their arms around me and tell me it's okay.
@AngelicSakuko I've never been diagnosed, not sure whether I've suffered it, what Stephen Fry said about the future hit a chord. But let me say this, change is the only constant in life, everything changes. When at school I thought this darkness would go on and on and I'd never get away, I got out of school by some miracle in my last year academically, moved to a new place, made sure nobody from my school was at my accomodation, started afresh, and it was the most sublime thing ever.
@AngelicSakuko i used to live in a state of continual anxiety - on a subconcious level, my self worth hinged on every minor task i wanted to perform, or felt i had to perform. None of the arbitrary and often impossible goal posts I set up for myself ever gave the slightest bit of relief - there was always this sense that i was failing continually every day. Deep down i wanted someone to forgive me for "failing" and give me permission to follow my own desires for day to day, instead of some ...
@AngelicSakuko imagined and arbitrary requirements that i kept placing on myself. The only way to make this stop is to realise that it's you that's putting that pressure on yourself, and you can stop it by forgiving yourself and realising that you are valid simply by existing as a human being, and anything you do or don't do wont't impact this. You could quit your studies and live out a crazy childhood dream to be a circus juggler, and the only person who needs to judge your success is you.
@AngelicSakuko but also, go to the doctor and get some help in the form of counselling and cognitave behavioural therapy. It's all very well me trying to summarise my particular solution, but that's omitting the years of almost fruitless self-analysis, followed by a year or so of invaluble help from professionals.
@jamespi thankyou, this is actually really helpful :) I have felt a little bit better recently, now that I've been on antidepressants for a while and I've learned to stop stressing so much about school. I just take things one day at a time, and take baby steps. I just try to get through one day of school at a time without missing classes, so that way I don't fall too far behind, even if I don't do all the work. I have an appointment with my counsellor in 2 days, which I'm happy with. Thankyou :)
@londonafter hey i know how you feel ive lost friends been jugded and been outcasted from my family all to do with deppression luckly there I found hope and acceptance
I was diagnosed with clinical depression....shortly thereafter was involved in a bike accident....broke my leg in 5 places! After the accident I never seem to have depression any more....not a remody, but it worked for me...:D
I just sleep for hours and hours and hours, 14 hour sleep patterns aren't unusual for me. I just think my dreams are more interesting and I enjoy them more than real life.
Here's the problem, though: these are all incredibly high-functioning depressives. They've all secured stable jobs with high incomes, and their anxiety can even fuel their professional lives (like Jim Brown). I'm a student, and when I fall apart, I see my whole future collapsing on a very material level: I don't make A's, I can't get a job, I can't make money, I have to move back in with my parents - it's a very basic, material problem that compounds the mental crisis.
@yourengland Yeah, I know the learning environment is horrific for people with these problems. The depression and/or anxiety stops you preforming the best you can, and the fact that you haven't done yourself justice causes more depression and anxiety. I used to think the academic staff at uni would treat me with contempt if I went to them with my problems, I was completely wrong though. I think the more I with the problem the easier the other pressures of life are.
@yourengland I know what you mean. I am in a very similar situation. It's nice to know I'm not alone. I am working to recognize the situations that send my anxiety into overdrive, and work on coping with them.
I find an easy way to look at it is as Stephen said; It's like the weather. I think of my anxiety as a blizzard. I can't pretend it's not snowing and it may take a while to dig my self out, but eventually it will get better.
@yourengland Yes, but you've got to remember it's not all been cushy for them. Take Stephen Fry. An incredibly intelligent man, who has secured a stable job, with a high income, as you state, but in his teens he was just another confused student, who in a bout of depression stole someones credit card. He was sent to prison for three months, but then went on to get a degree at Cambridge, and look at him now. It's been a battle for him just as much as it's been for everyone else.
@yourengland Hi love. I can do 18 hours although i do get up for wee and water but i find it so easy to fall back to sleep again. When i'm in bed i'm safe. My dreams are better than reality as i don't have to remember my love stabbed on the kitchen floor. I hold a job now but i do wonder when it'll all crack and, despite therapy, when i will be in a proper realtionship again, of which shows no certainty.
@yourengland I couldn't have said it better myself yourengland. I suffer with depression at varying degrees and I can completely relate to what you say here. It's a very different set of circumstances these people are in, which makes a huge difference perhaps not substantially to the depression itself but certainly to any consequences which may stem from it and the impact it has.
@yourengland you are not alone, its taken me three atempts to get thrrough university. I have done it, and now i am doing a Masters. I still have episodes of dispair and inactivity I find i have to speak to people Itrust as early as i can to kind of nip it in the bud. If I fall apart I spend as much energy as i can muster visualising myself as a good person I read messages and memories to myself from times when I was strong to remind me Im not the awfull character I believe myself to be.
@yourengland I hope that you have taken advice from professionals (CBT or Psychologist) about this so that you can learn to cope with it. Don't try to go it alone. It sounds like you have a similar depression to me. Try to see whether it is an actual fact. Would it stand up in a court of law as a solid stable fact. Write down the thought and then the for and against about it. Then eliminate any that are just emotional reasoning as opposed to solid evidence. You can get through this.
@londonafter sorry, but if that's the kind of reaction that you're receiving from your friends, then I don't think their friends at all. a couple of my friends are in the medical field and they and I agree that sometimes, the cause of loneliness and fear is the lack of security of who to trust. I have studied a bit of psychology before and looking at the data--most loneliness stems from the fact that you do not know who to tell it to. :( Just take it a day at a time. You can do it. Good luck!
because they believe it removes the social stigma of depression, it simplifies a complex emotion, DEPRESSION IS'NT LIKE THAT. Depression CAN be conquered through your own introspective intervention, it takes effort, practice and perseverance BUT I PROMISE YOU CAN DO IT BECAUSE I DID! For more info read up on MBCT cognitive restructuring and most importantly neuroplasticity. You are not a slave to your biology, you are in control and i promise you can be happy. :)
@itsthearistocrat I've read a bit about plasticity too & it's a truly wonderful thing but as I said: thoughts aren't the cause of the problem, thoughts can't be the solution!
There are many problems with the brain that researchers of neuroplasticity have been able to help people with but if you look into it you'll see that the solution was never anything along the lines of "introspection"
Understand that not everyone is the same as you & you haven't found the answer to everyone's depression
Before i make my point i should say i've had numerous chronic episodes of depression in my life and have been at the brink of despair. But i do not believe depression is a disease, i believe depression can be controlled through MBCT (mindfulness based cognitive therapy) and cognitive restructuring techniques to change negative beliefs about the self, the world and the future. The chemical imbalance theory is only a THEORY and it hasn't been proved, people want to believe depression is a disease
''Do you want it to stop'' is EXACTLY what I felt last week when I took cough syrup and klonopin. I didn't take it enough to hurt me, but I did go to the hospital. I feel much better this week; it's almost to a manic level. I didn't want to kill myself. They still deemed it a suicide attempt. In the moment, I just wanted it to stop.
@moviefreak91 im sorry that it got to such a level for you,unfortunately im there currently but mine's more like this 6:42. When it gets too much i self medicate (which i know is bad) to quite the overwhelming subconscious desires and then i try to draw to the point were all i can think about is the act of drawing. Then after that im good for a little while, depending how good the drawing is...which i make it my youtube background if it's good enough... but that aside im glad your doing better
Not telling anyone is better than telling your closest friends of 10 years and have them tell you that they hate you and to never talk to them again. I'm Bipolar and they got sick of me being sad.
many people get depressed by their own actions - partys, late nights, drink, drugs and just plain over indulgence in everything that gives them pleasure but goes tits up at the end of the day when they don't get a buzz anymore.
the real genuine cases of depression with people that also have the added unfortunatness of having no money and no real status as a human being in this country are passed by and given depreciated, if any, decent, kind of understanding when it comes to the NHS
@londonafter It's gotten crappy after the wave of Pretend-bipolarbears and "self harming for image reasons" kids. Being a teen with mental disorders carries more stigma these days because of emos and phonies than having issues in the 90s when I was going through it. I would still suggest you be open about it. The more people that know you have issues, the easier it is for others to open up, and for you to find people with the same issues. Solidarity between nutters is pretty good :)
the future, in depression, is so non existent. two years after a breakdown i still cannot cope with the concept. in my head there is no such thing as the future. i have days where i feel as if i've never had a bad day in my life, and what i can do is boundless. and the other side is the same, i also feel like i've only ever known this deepset black.
I am clinically depressed w/ major depression episodes and how Steven fry describes his depressed at 1:09 & 6:42 .. rang so true it was chilling and comforting at the same time for the same reason, the fact that someone feels the same way... that it's about the pure nothingness of the future, not sadness. How that nothingness seeps into every crack of your self-being until every aspect of life is covered by a bleak veil of emptiness & that you want to escape that blanket of nonexistence
@londonafter i know what you mean, my friends mean the world to me and i havent been able to tell them that i am depressed.i feel like there slipping away and i know its my fault but i dont know what to do or how to talk to them anymore.
@iamthecodofhalo1 thanks for commenting back.i'm so glad that im not alone. i'm afraid to tell them because i know it would hurt them and i dont want them to feel any of this.
I coped by also 'pampering myself' by going to the sauna and having aromatherapy. I even had a 'comfort box' with some favourite things which I used to fill 'for when I felt depressed'. If you are feeling down, you really need to pamper yourself.
These doctors never seem to suggest art therapy or even the right foods. They just want us to dish out pills all the time. It is very limiting if you just relied on doctors.Art has really saved me.
I think positiveness of having depression needs to be discussed too. For example, Spike Milligan wrote his best poetry in a psychiatric ward. It made me complete a marathon, it gave me a goal to live for and something simple to focus on.
I would also say that being surrounded by 'sympathetic' type people helped. I now 'warn' friends if I have an episode, which fortunately doesn't last very long. I do find that I can be overwhelmed with stuff but I try to manage it by cutting down.
I found that going for nature walks helpful, and cutting down on many things (saying no more), and cycling. I cut down on socialising to avoid more pressure... I took SSRIs for 6 months which got me through the worst. Now I do art therapy and embroidery and one of my pictures was sold in an art exhibition recently. I also did a marathon right in the thick of the depression. I was such a zombie but I started to get positive thoughts back again. I did read some books on cognitive therapy.
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depression is just the modern label given when you experience separation from the eternal self, getting lost in the mind and refusing to deal with the emotional guidance coming forth from within. Easily curable with proper guidance however most follow advice from those who no nothing and seek to sell them drugs. the cure is within, the same place as the source. no external cure exists, it's all within already :D
@davidchilderley Your spiritual approach may find a home in a history of philosophy class but has no application to real people. You can no more "cure" depression than you can regrow an amputated leg by thought alone. I suggest you pull your head out of your metaphysical butt and catch up on your biology homework.
watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc — for an excellent lecture on the intersection of biology and psychology in depression.
@rlquinn1980 Neanderthal thinking will get you nowhere... thought creates matter. thought also creates depression. you see depression is when you get lost in the mind with too much analytical thinking... depression is just a label and the power of thought created it and can also take it away.... maybe you're not supposed to 'get it' but try to be open and allowing and you'll be fine :D
@davidchilderley You present a straw man and then repeat your earlier comment providing no evidence nor defending anything within my response to you. If you do not have the cognitive processes to form a simple argument, I can only doubt any claims of your god-like ability to create physical changes by forcing charges through unconnected neurons.
Thank you for presenting an excellent example of how New Age and magical thinking fails to understand the most basic tenets of science and medicine.
@rlquinn1980 unfortunately for you, i seek no argument. i do not support new age thinking or anything you care to accuse me of.... judge less and perceive more. the way you think is the old paradigm and what the system wants you to think. you have been programming to believe in science and not the power of your mind and heart.
evolve and open your mind and heart to the possibilities and let go of the need to be right. best wishes to you :D
@davidchilderley Critical thinking should never be discouraged. "Being right" is important when you're trying to figure out what exactly is going on. If the world followed your attitude towards knowledge, we would never have identified the Placebo Effect.
With the trend towards positive psychology and mindfulness, science is converging with ancient wisdom and figuring out what is useful and what is wishful thinking. Don't disregard science. Science is self-correcting and ever improving.
@davidchilderley Link me to the studies (NOT new age websites & youtube videos), cause the burden of proof is on you.. lmao, do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Perhaps I'm reading your statement wrong.. but I imagine you concentrating hard and then a chunk of matter suddenly appearing in front of you
Oh, what the hell am I doing getting into a debate with you, you have a shitload of videos about the law of attraction uploaded. Don't bother replying
@davidchilderley I think the biggest problem with your argument is you come across as patronising, I know your intentions are good but if you understood conditions like manic depression or GAD ect you would realise that this is a flawed approach, sufferers are intelligent enough to know it lands on their own shoulders. And believe it or not the nhs is very reluctant to prescribe medication for depression, and stuff like xanax isn't exactly a household name.
@EbsNhexz i understand manic depression better than anyone and am just trying to educate people who have been brainwashed by docs selling drugs. i repeat, depression is the separation from the self. the self being your eternal spirit/soul/awareness within your physical body. when you have no spiritual connection to your eternal self, you get lost in the mind and depression sets in. one day soon you will all get this and remember who you really are. until then, think less and feel more :D
@davidchilderley I'm a Buddhist my friend so I'm not automatically closed minded to your methods, In fact I agree with most of them. I apologise for implying you don't understand manic depression, it was hypocritical considering the point I was trying to make. My point was that your comments read as though you say people have brought the depression on themselves through ignorance, true or not this isn't a productive thing to hear, its like the opposite of a affirmation.
We've recently did a story on how Exercise Light Therapy can help cure winter depression. Maybe it's helpful for depression in general. It's on our channel if anyone's interested.
InsidersHealthTV 1 day ago
I tell myself it's better to feel overwhelming depression than to be hollow
TheEstherinator 5 days ago
For me the nothingness would be a welcome relief, just the sweet caress of the death... What else is there but pain and misery?
lambykins1471 6 days ago
i have occasional bouts of depression but these can turn to suicidal thoughts. i know i don't want to but i feel like it is an endless falling sensation but i can't tell anyone what it fells like . i even feel it hard to type this out.
destroyedbystuf 1 week ago
@destroyedbystuf ive felt that falling. im now on anti-depressants and theyve helped a lot, see your doctor!
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Depression is such a strong emotion, its regret, fear, frustration, isolation, a choice, and sometimes even a form of protection.
josh71111 2 weeks ago
Depression is a black hole that you fall into..... you fall, fall, fall, fall...... into this nothingness with no bottom...... YOU NEVER HIT THE BOTTOM. You just fall...
Baadshahforever 2 weeks ago 6
Depression is absolutely horrid. I wake up every morning feeling hopeless and exhausted. This video has been so useful. Stephen Fry likens Depression to a 'Void'. And it's so true. It feels like there's nothingness in your life.
I recommend Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. I've been following it for 2 years and it's helped me to find about the mental messages I have and how these have shaped my Depression.
EmeraldSuede 2 weeks ago
Depression is crippling but I try hard to beat it. I also have aspergers syndrome dyspraxia, born deaf and clinical depression all formally diagnosed and possible ADHD. Stephen Fry has done well really with his comebacks. Please look at my own vids, especially of how MIND-RETHINK treated my Mum in hospital and the corrupt South Yorkshire Police harassing me at my house last week. If you can help, PLEASE do. We've tried so hard ourselves but get unlawfully blocked. Keep up the fight people.
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@AllenVincent489 I'm very sorry to hear about what you've gone through. What have you done to cope with your Depression?
EmeraldSuede 2 weeks ago
i oversleep. I don't get up until i have a terrible headache .
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these fuckers are being payed for this == Coping with depression== oh yeah if it pays well
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I just posted a lengthy blog post regarding MY story with depression. It is really worth a read - well I think! lol
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Résumé
Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live. - Dorothy Parker
NotToImply 1 month ago 6
im not suicidal i just want it to stop
Stubthezomb 1 month ago 13
Thanks for posting (and making) this! I found some clues in this video that might help me to win my struggle.
OZP1905 1 month ago 3
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what if there is this person who is incredibly dopey/dumb, like i cant even tell you how much. and they are bullied about it, from friends and family all the time. the bullying is never going to stop is it, because the dopiness is a part of their personality and they arent going to change. does that make the bullying ok?
u11711 1 month ago
Keep on keeping on
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good sign showing that there is a part of that actually WANTS to live and get better and feel happy and enjoy life..
I like how they explain that what helps are the simple little things and actions such as exercise and getting out of the house. The only problem with me is that just when I get ready to go outside I start having a panic attack. So that adds to the problem.. But I'll keep going, cos I do want to get better.
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phlearze 1 month ago
good sign showing that there is a part of that actually WANTS to live and get better and feel happy and enjoy life..
I like how they explain that what helps are the simple little things and actions such as exercise and getting out of the house. The only problem with me is that just when I get ready to go outside I start having a panic attack. So that adds to the problem.. But I'll keep going, cos I do want to get better.
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phlearze 1 month ago
Oh, and Thank you to everyone here who has left a post and shared their experiences!! I feel much lighter now knowing that there actual living and feeling people out there who know through experience how I feel. I don't feel as alone any more..
@DrNjtp: you have basically put into words my own experience! The only thing is I cud never do it cos I am too much of a chicken and also I get this awful historical crying as if I've already died! It's very frightening!! But perhaps it's a goo sign show
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public take this illness seriously ester than an ego-centric flimsy personal crisis.
And THANK YOU for posting!
phlearze 1 month ago
public take this illness seriously ester than an ego-centric flimsy personal crisis.
And THANK YOU for posting!
phlearze 1 month ago
Thank you SO much (whichever production company it is) for making this documentary and showing people's experience and how they've coped with them! I can't express how much support it gives me to be able to see these issues being voiced AND put out there!! Am being someone how is even now is coping through a familiar experience I cannot express how much support it gives when people around you have the knowledge and understating if what is going on with you! AND it's helping make the general pub
phlearze 1 month ago
Whoever doubts the effects of depression has quite obviously never been through it. Depression is like a cancer, it can get worse and worse unless treated. I myself am going through depression. It comes and goes in waves, it eats you from the inside. I don't wish it on the doubters or skeptics because it can be hell, I just wish they would realize their own ignorance and try their best to help someone who they think or know is depressed. This way we will have less and less suicides per year fro
NICOGB94 1 month ago 4
@NICOGB94 agreed 100%
ivegotabfmv 1 month ago
Insidegame33 you are a MORON !!!
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insidegame33 1 month ago
Thanks Stephen.
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KhaledMr25 1 month ago
@KhaledMr25 Thanks mate
Jordz600 1 month ago
@Jordz600 you'r welcome
KhaledMr25 1 month ago
good energy to all my brothers and sisters on here
ILLZUKUNT 1 month ago
So it isn't normal to think about killing yourself?
guitarandrums 1 month ago
yes exactly! and i should already know because it's nothing new to me.
but since it's not all that bad at the moment (like you said, it does not cause real misery.. and i do know how that feels like! i'm just very lazy and unmotivated and, well... feel lonely) i think it's all but impossible to make a start...
i wish you all the very best, keep it up!
thealphabetist 1 month ago
who can i talk too?
TheOliverTaylor 1 month ago
As a teenager I had some bouts of depression and loneliness.
Now I only have loneliness without the bouts of depression, or at least ones so mild as to not cause misery. The secret was long, brisk walks for 5 kilometers a day, minimum. I don't care what else I'm planning that day, I go for my walk and it makes all the difference. I return home more talkative, energized, appetite back, sex drive back, feeling good, my thoughts break from the rumination cycle and I there is a future again.
Jotto999 1 month ago
@Jotto999 i think that's exactly how i feel... maybe i should give it a try. because to avoid leaving the house won't make you feel any better, that's for sure.
thealphabetist 1 month ago
@thealphabetist You are right, not leaving the house will amplify the depression.
I think of depression as a vicious cycle. It makes you stay shut in, isolated, disrupting sleep, sitting there. But these things only make the depression come on even heavier.
For me the only reliable way to break the cycle was long brisk walks, or other prolonged physical activity (biking or jogging could do it too). This is how you can fight it.
May you have the best health.
Jotto999 1 month ago 3
Buy a guitar, and listen to sludge. It's cures depression. Check out the band Eyehategod. It's like downing a bottle of xanax!
megaterra69 2 months ago
@SilverGalfordZ I would troll this comment, but id only be proving your theory.
AlexanderMazarakis 2 months ago
@ddancefloor same here, my life is horrible sometimes and I've tried suicide and running away but my 5 year old niece keeps me going but it's 3:20am at Christmas and I'm sat downstairs reading law books.
Tis the season to be jolly? Fuck off.
ImAMentalPatient 2 months ago
I'm 17 it's 3:14am and I'm sat downstairs on Christmas reading law books. Fuck Christmas all it brings is misery and sadness I cried like 4 times today because my life is fucking horrible sometimes.
Merry christmas all.
ImAMentalPatient 2 months ago
@ImAMentalPatient I feel you. I know many will say this, but keep on going. Some of the most succesful people today come from very dark beginnings. Don't believe, then check it out on the internet and you will see how many others are in your position. I hope you feel better soon
the90sprince 2 months ago
@ImAMentalPatient - don't know you but hang in there, christmas is a terrable time to be alone, and new year is not much better but hang in there, there is alot of us out there, hope the new year brings you some relief......
pdalaigh 2 months ago
@pdalaigh @the90sprince Cheers guys, just got depressed alot as my birthday and christmas are all in december, well 25th and 26th to be exact and new year isnt exactly jolly for me as thats when my dad left my mum.
Just have to cope with the shit which comes my way but thanks. Appreciate it.
ImAMentalPatient 2 months ago
I don't feel stephen fry is making sense when is saying about nothingness.
210482fmj 2 months ago
@210482fmj
I'd actually say he fear has been provoked by the most intellectual thought here; it sounds quite existential and would agree with his atheism. You can see his fear is quite profound and could sound quite absurd.
dagll 2 months ago
I bet stephen frys depression is from him being gay. I bet he would admit he is pissed off about that. Ultimately that is going to isolate him
210482fmj 2 months ago
im in the military, but due to my injuries in afghanistan and my post traumatic stress disorder im being medically discharged. they do provide the possiblities for my future career but with my flashbacks, lack of sleep, depression. i find it so hard to even leave my room. i currently spend 22-24hrs a day in a room on base with nothing to do and havent done anything since september. im numb, frustrated and upset yet i can barely find the strength to do anything about it.
sniperbrook 2 months ago
You often find the people who are mentally ill and dont accept it never seek treatment. THey don't believe there is anything that can be done to help them. YOu often wonder what can really be done. ALot of people live in towns with poor facilities and poor mental health services and people who are not very well trained. SOme towns really have no proper mental health facilities at all and what is availible is usually just people using you for paper work
210482fmj 2 months ago
I can really empathise with Stephen Fry. Especially the part where he says he has a voice in his head telling him constantly that he's a d**k. I feel that. I feel like a complete d**k whenever I feel depressed.
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210482fmj 2 months ago
depression is no laughing matter - I know tons of people who have suffered depression - supposedly a mental illness - I don't agree. Speak to someone wh has been married for 20 years then go through divorce, you wouldn't be normal if you were sad.
jackiehurst 2 months ago
Stephen Fry is the only man who can articulate what a drenching and fucking hopeless state of mind depression is. Depression is like drowning - you know what to do but you cannot reenter the surface despite all efforts.
NoDataNoFuture 2 months ago 41
The thing that touched me the most, was Trisha's bit with 'oh, you attempted suicide'. I've had a few 'suicide' attempts myself, but during all this I was so afraid of dying that I could never go completely through with it. I always thought I was so stupid for even trying it, but.... I just wanted this feeling to go away. I just want to stop feeling numb and hurting at the same time. And I never imagined that other people felt the same way...
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210482fmj 2 months ago
I definitely agree with it being a void, THE void in fact. I'm there now, clinging to the posibility that I can find reason to live - if you can't feel love there's nothing left but reason and hope, once you lose hope your powers of reason lead you to the only conclussion you're able to come to in that state, which is suicide. I owe it only to luck and ineptitude that I still live, at the moment I fear I may have learned enough to be successful in suicide.
DrNjtp 2 months ago 2
I dont know how to cure depression or anxiety but i wont ever forget how bad it can be. I send my best wishes to all who are suffering right now.
things can and will get better, i dont know how long it can take but just keep going... please.
I remember hating everything - music - people - going out - tv - films - everything was shit, but i now know that was only because i felt shit inside.
im a 31 year old guy with a family and a job. anyone can suffer and not know why.
Dont give up
iTchySkiDs 2 months ago 3
@iTchySkiDs Thank you.
WeWantWeWant 2 months ago
Hey guys. obviously your all here because your suffering from depression or anxiety.
I also suffered very bad depression a few years back and until recently terrible anxiety. I struggled just to carry on. I would vomit on the pavement walking to work every day and felt understandably self continuous of this and of course i became fearful on going out with anxiety.
Things can change. Im on top of the world now - never touched a med for depression either. stay strong. dont over think and live.
iTchySkiDs 2 months ago
My depression makes me feel queasy all the time, causes Anxiety, and gets really bad some days. I cant think about the future when im just trying to cope with the now. It would be nice to have some kind of event for people who suffer it, somthing uplifting to go to maybe a depression Expo lol, to meet others who suffer from it too, maybe give everyone a day to look forward to.
TheAtomicusBomb 3 months ago
this video made me realise that I'm not the only one doing things that are classic of people with depression
redtec989 3 months ago
Though what's truly aggravating about having this illness and dealing with it is that most people just treat it as if it's an adolescent phase by saying, "stop being emo".
Really, it's like saying to someone who lost their arm. "Get over it." Honestly, it seems like people are just dead from the heart up to people who deal with this sort of thing. Anesthesia of compassion.
JohanStarDragon 3 months ago 3
Right now, I wish i was granted one wish. I would use that to 'remove my existence' & not affect anyone who cared. Aside from a very few moments in my 30 years of living, given my intellect & looks, I don't think anything I do in the future would improve my situation (and i don't think this is my illness talking). My memory & concentration is continually withering away.
if it were up to natural selection, Id be weeded out long ago. I wish that were true.
test123ok 3 months ago
@test123ok *hug*.
longbluefingers 3 months ago
@longbluefingers I ♥ *hugs*
SiliconBong 3 months ago
I'ts good to know that I'm not alone in just wanting to sleep for hours and hours because not much can hurt you when your asleep and everything seems switched off.
neversurreder793 3 months ago 6
I don't think suicidal thoughts are so unusual, especially among teenagers. I've surely never been "depressed" in a pathological sense, but I've thought about suicide several times, as I think almost everybody has.
VegsoulWhiteWolf 3 months ago
I have alot of respect for Stephen Fry, gosh if he can make it, so can I.
CaliforniaGirl088 4 months ago 3
It's mainly all paperwork these days
210482fmj 4 months ago
my friends never get put in a psychiatric hospital unless you are a danger to others. They will screw you and just use as money making material to keep them in their jobs.
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210482fmj 4 months ago
@londonafter Show them a vid on youtube, it's professor Robert Sapolsky on depression - goes through the neurochemistry and body chemistry that explains the exhaustion and mood - it really helped my friend understand that what he called depression and what I suffer with are very different things. :) She still hasn't really got a clue but just the fact that she knows that it's a psychiatric condition and not just a bit of everyday blues has helped a lot.
DrNjtp 4 months ago
I used to be depressed and lonely. Now I'm just lonely.
andrewh817 4 months ago
for me right now its grab a bottle of whiskey and drink
raptorhunter104 4 months ago
I could listen to Stephen Fry literally all day :L
malteeaser101 4 months ago 29
@malteeaser101 listen to this and tell me what u feel ?? :)
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KhaledMr25 1 month ago
@malteeaser101 i do, we're studying depression in psychology and regularly watch clips of him and i have all the harry potter cd's so listen to him a lot of the time at home
amyloo3 1 month ago
a LOT of writers have this man.
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lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
None of these people are as comforting as Stephen Fry. :)
kougermasterz 5 months ago
Also,I overcame Bi Polar disorder twice.The first time I did I got pushed off of the kind of charachter I was because 1 I was angery,sad about stuff and thats practically illegal especially not in public.And two I was genuine,I was real when I was loving people and cared about stuff it all meant something to me.And people really didnt like that so they pressured me and kicked me off.My"bi polar dissorder"then got worse,I had asperges syndromes and short term memory loss.I had a very crude mind.
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FIRSTconcentrate 5 months ago
I have recently been researching the symptoms of mental illnesses. This is more in order to understand than to solve my problem, as well as to alleviate the sense of loneliness. Stephen Fry's documentary has helped me enormously, although I am yet to find a case that really fits mine. Most manic depressives, like Fry himself, have sustained manic episodes and periodical black states, but my mood swings are far more fickle, changing almost by the hour. I'm not yet ready to see a doctor though.
towneslives 6 months ago
My advice to Stephen Fry, get out of England!
desasterz 6 months ago
@desasterz is england the cause of his depression? or is it just exacerbating it?
arcz10 5 months ago
@arcz10 If the french came to England and saw your every day smilly social people around tables they would think you were retards.Its cultural.I get dipresed.I pay a lot of attention to the disasters in the world but I think what causes it most of all is the flatness of civilisation.I feel like whenever theres positive culture its alwayse flat and very mechanic and unsimpathetic. Its like life is an effort.Thats what causes more dipression.And the worst is when you give it convenient names.
desasterz 5 months ago
@desasterz so you are saying that life in england is too much hard work and boring? and thats what make people depressed?
arcz10 5 months ago
@arcz10 I actually think dipression is normal. I think Decarte said that. because life is not satisfying. Especially approaching it from an atheistic perspective. The Big Bang is simply not enough. Also this notion that comes with it where yo just cant explaine what we are is really bad and even people who were just taught the big bang at school and found it interesting would in effect later walk around with aweful questions of what we are. I did. Basicly look at someone who is sad.
desasterz 5 months ago
professional help in the uk bull shit
evilghost101 5 months ago
women in uk can be sick and get professional help and do want they want on the other hand men dont get professional help
and hend up in jail
evilghost101 5 months ago
@desasterz When people make an issue about depression they're either milking it for attention, or they're not talking about your garden variety depression, they're talking about major depression - you reach a point where you don't fear death but long for it and when you attempt suicide there's this huge sense of relief that your suffering is over - we're not talking scratching wrists here we're talking massive drug overdoses, shotgun to the face type stuff. What you're talking about is... Shit.
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ProjectLonely 6 months ago
10:14 Not even in that stage I find Stephen Fry an awful person to be with.
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Azuresong 6 months ago
I have struggled with depression and anxiety all my life, i am 62 years of age. In 2004 i attempted to kill myself. I have been on many different types of anti- depressants, without being helpful. I do function, i run a small business. Every day is a struggle, I spend about one third of my life feeling like it is not worth the struggle. However,i worry about someone else having to pick up the pieces if i try to kill myself again and fail. I must say however that i cannot cope with Stephen Fry
dorothyparker100 7 months ago
I have no idea what to do anymore. I can't pull myself out of bed in the morning. None of the things that used to make me happy give me enjoyment anymore. I'm going back to school tomorrow, and I'm terrified. I've always been an academic overachiever, until this year when I was diagnosed with clinical depression. I feel like I've lost the only thing I could ever do.I'm so scared of letting everyone else down. All I want is for the people I love to wrap their arms around me and tell me it's okay.
AngelicSakuko 7 months ago
@AngelicSakuko I've never been diagnosed, not sure whether I've suffered it, what Stephen Fry said about the future hit a chord. But let me say this, change is the only constant in life, everything changes. When at school I thought this darkness would go on and on and I'd never get away, I got out of school by some miracle in my last year academically, moved to a new place, made sure nobody from my school was at my accomodation, started afresh, and it was the most sublime thing ever.
kkwillsaveus 7 months ago
@AngelicSakuko i used to live in a state of continual anxiety - on a subconcious level, my self worth hinged on every minor task i wanted to perform, or felt i had to perform. None of the arbitrary and often impossible goal posts I set up for myself ever gave the slightest bit of relief - there was always this sense that i was failing continually every day. Deep down i wanted someone to forgive me for "failing" and give me permission to follow my own desires for day to day, instead of some ...
jamespi 6 months ago
@AngelicSakuko imagined and arbitrary requirements that i kept placing on myself. The only way to make this stop is to realise that it's you that's putting that pressure on yourself, and you can stop it by forgiving yourself and realising that you are valid simply by existing as a human being, and anything you do or don't do wont't impact this. You could quit your studies and live out a crazy childhood dream to be a circus juggler, and the only person who needs to judge your success is you.
jamespi 6 months ago
@AngelicSakuko but also, go to the doctor and get some help in the form of counselling and cognitave behavioural therapy. It's all very well me trying to summarise my particular solution, but that's omitting the years of almost fruitless self-analysis, followed by a year or so of invaluble help from professionals.
jamespi 6 months ago
@jamespi thankyou, this is actually really helpful :) I have felt a little bit better recently, now that I've been on antidepressants for a while and I've learned to stop stressing so much about school. I just take things one day at a time, and take baby steps. I just try to get through one day of school at a time without missing classes, so that way I don't fall too far behind, even if I don't do all the work. I have an appointment with my counsellor in 2 days, which I'm happy with. Thankyou :)
AngelicSakuko 6 months ago
@londonafter I know you made your comment on this video over 4 months ago, but can I just ask, how did you end up going to a psychiatrist?
Did your parents notice the changes in you, or did you tell them? Who noticed that something was wrong?
Superfreak937 7 months ago
It doesn't really matter what you do if no one cares what you do.
abluecarrot1 8 months ago
@londonafter hey i know how you feel ive lost friends been jugded and been outcasted from my family all to do with deppression luckly there I found hope and acceptance
Mrblacksadist 8 months ago
Travel to sunnier climes like Florida for a week or two
it does wonders for you. English or European winter
will bring depressive symptions quicker to sensitive
souls!:)
FidelCastro128 9 months ago 2
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It's not so simple, unfortunately. :)
Crissxx2 7 months ago
I was diagnosed with clinical depression....shortly thereafter was involved in a bike accident....broke my leg in 5 places! After the accident I never seem to have depression any more....not a remody, but it worked for me...:D
bermudaguy1 9 months ago
this video is actually helpful, esp. what Trisha says about "not being suicidal" and Stephen about the weather.
hbanana7 9 months ago
I just sleep for hours and hours and hours, 14 hour sleep patterns aren't unusual for me. I just think my dreams are more interesting and I enjoy them more than real life.
matthemod 9 months ago 59
@matthemod You should keep a dream diary.
jamieariss 9 months ago
It's amazing someone like Stephen Fry or Trisha Whatshername can speak so frankly about problems like this.
Fry feeling so bad and a camera being pointed on you, that's got to be tough.
KeithUnderneath 9 months ago 2
@londonafter If you need to talk to people, I reccomend depression forums . org, think that is right.
Chewyfied 9 months ago
Here's the problem, though: these are all incredibly high-functioning depressives. They've all secured stable jobs with high incomes, and their anxiety can even fuel their professional lives (like Jim Brown). I'm a student, and when I fall apart, I see my whole future collapsing on a very material level: I don't make A's, I can't get a job, I can't make money, I have to move back in with my parents - it's a very basic, material problem that compounds the mental crisis.
yourengland 10 months ago 93
@yourengland Yeah, I know the learning environment is horrific for people with these problems. The depression and/or anxiety stops you preforming the best you can, and the fact that you haven't done yourself justice causes more depression and anxiety. I used to think the academic staff at uni would treat me with contempt if I went to them with my problems, I was completely wrong though. I think the more I with the problem the easier the other pressures of life are.
EbsNhexz 9 months ago
@yourengland I know what you mean. I am in a very similar situation. It's nice to know I'm not alone. I am working to recognize the situations that send my anxiety into overdrive, and work on coping with them.
I find an easy way to look at it is as Stephen said; It's like the weather. I think of my anxiety as a blizzard. I can't pretend it's not snowing and it may take a while to dig my self out, but eventually it will get better.
<3
jennie8908 8 months ago
@yourengland Yes, but you've got to remember it's not all been cushy for them. Take Stephen Fry. An incredibly intelligent man, who has secured a stable job, with a high income, as you state, but in his teens he was just another confused student, who in a bout of depression stole someones credit card. He was sent to prison for three months, but then went on to get a degree at Cambridge, and look at him now. It's been a battle for him just as much as it's been for everyone else.
JackyRowe 4 months ago 31
@yourengland Hi love. I can do 18 hours although i do get up for wee and water but i find it so easy to fall back to sleep again. When i'm in bed i'm safe. My dreams are better than reality as i don't have to remember my love stabbed on the kitchen floor. I hold a job now but i do wonder when it'll all crack and, despite therapy, when i will be in a proper realtionship again, of which shows no certainty.
xxxx
Sharsie 3 months ago
@yourengland I couldn't have said it better myself yourengland. I suffer with depression at varying degrees and I can completely relate to what you say here. It's a very different set of circumstances these people are in, which makes a huge difference perhaps not substantially to the depression itself but certainly to any consequences which may stem from it and the impact it has.
andrewhollanduk 3 months ago
@yourengland you are not alone, its taken me three atempts to get thrrough university. I have done it, and now i am doing a Masters. I still have episodes of dispair and inactivity I find i have to speak to people Itrust as early as i can to kind of nip it in the bud. If I fall apart I spend as much energy as i can muster visualising myself as a good person I read messages and memories to myself from times when I was strong to remind me Im not the awfull character I believe myself to be.
simongibbs3601 2 months ago
@yourengland I hope that you have taken advice from professionals (CBT or Psychologist) about this so that you can learn to cope with it. Don't try to go it alone. It sounds like you have a similar depression to me. Try to see whether it is an actual fact. Would it stand up in a court of law as a solid stable fact. Write down the thought and then the for and against about it. Then eliminate any that are just emotional reasoning as opposed to solid evidence. You can get through this.
bazeboiee 2 months ago
@yourengland
I wuv you ^_^
CornishRicky 2 months ago
It's horribly ironic that a man like Stephen Fry who has given so much joy and laughter to others should be afflicted in such a way.
SmokeRingsPipeDreams 10 months ago 5
@londonafter sorry, but if that's the kind of reaction that you're receiving from your friends, then I don't think their friends at all. a couple of my friends are in the medical field and they and I agree that sometimes, the cause of loneliness and fear is the lack of security of who to trust. I have studied a bit of psychology before and looking at the data--most loneliness stems from the fact that you do not know who to tell it to. :( Just take it a day at a time. You can do it. Good luck!
morrisoniice 10 months ago
because they believe it removes the social stigma of depression, it simplifies a complex emotion, DEPRESSION IS'NT LIKE THAT. Depression CAN be conquered through your own introspective intervention, it takes effort, practice and perseverance BUT I PROMISE YOU CAN DO IT BECAUSE I DID! For more info read up on MBCT cognitive restructuring and most importantly neuroplasticity. You are not a slave to your biology, you are in control and i promise you can be happy. :)
itsthearistocrat 10 months ago
@itsthearistocrat I've read a bit about plasticity too & it's a truly wonderful thing but as I said: thoughts aren't the cause of the problem, thoughts can't be the solution!
There are many problems with the brain that researchers of neuroplasticity have been able to help people with but if you look into it you'll see that the solution was never anything along the lines of "introspection"
Understand that not everyone is the same as you & you haven't found the answer to everyone's depression
rabbitwho 10 months ago
Before i make my point i should say i've had numerous chronic episodes of depression in my life and have been at the brink of despair. But i do not believe depression is a disease, i believe depression can be controlled through MBCT (mindfulness based cognitive therapy) and cognitive restructuring techniques to change negative beliefs about the self, the world and the future. The chemical imbalance theory is only a THEORY and it hasn't been proved, people want to believe depression is a disease
itsthearistocrat 10 months ago
''Do you want it to stop'' is EXACTLY what I felt last week when I took cough syrup and klonopin. I didn't take it enough to hurt me, but I did go to the hospital. I feel much better this week; it's almost to a manic level. I didn't want to kill myself. They still deemed it a suicide attempt. In the moment, I just wanted it to stop.
moviefreak91 10 months ago
@moviefreak91 im sorry that it got to such a level for you,unfortunately im there currently but mine's more like this 6:42. When it gets too much i self medicate (which i know is bad) to quite the overwhelming subconscious desires and then i try to draw to the point were all i can think about is the act of drawing. Then after that im good for a little while, depending how good the drawing is...which i make it my youtube background if it's good enough... but that aside im glad your doing better
AkaiVash 10 months ago
@londonafter,
Not telling anyone is better than telling your closest friends of 10 years and have them tell you that they hate you and to never talk to them again. I'm Bipolar and they got sick of me being sad.
MissPink19851 10 months ago
many people get depressed by their own actions - partys, late nights, drink, drugs and just plain over indulgence in everything that gives them pleasure but goes tits up at the end of the day when they don't get a buzz anymore.
the real genuine cases of depression with people that also have the added unfortunatness of having no money and no real status as a human being in this country are passed by and given depreciated, if any, decent, kind of understanding when it comes to the NHS
FACT.
sweetypie000 10 months ago
@londonafter It's gotten crappy after the wave of Pretend-bipolarbears and "self harming for image reasons" kids. Being a teen with mental disorders carries more stigma these days because of emos and phonies than having issues in the 90s when I was going through it. I would still suggest you be open about it. The more people that know you have issues, the easier it is for others to open up, and for you to find people with the same issues. Solidarity between nutters is pretty good :)
ronnysoeberg 10 months ago
this video goes to show there are differant types of these mental issues. i could completely relate to the engineer but not at all to the others
KirkMisnotfunnyatall 11 months ago
the future, in depression, is so non existent. two years after a breakdown i still cannot cope with the concept. in my head there is no such thing as the future. i have days where i feel as if i've never had a bad day in my life, and what i can do is boundless. and the other side is the same, i also feel like i've only ever known this deepset black.
paloriggs 11 months ago
I am clinically depressed w/ major depression episodes and how Steven fry describes his depressed at 1:09 & 6:42 .. rang so true it was chilling and comforting at the same time for the same reason, the fact that someone feels the same way... that it's about the pure nothingness of the future, not sadness. How that nothingness seeps into every crack of your self-being until every aspect of life is covered by a bleak veil of emptiness & that you want to escape that blanket of nonexistence
AkaiVash 11 months ago
abraham lincoln and winston churchill.
you're not alone.
southsydney 1 year ago
@londonafter i know what you mean, my friends mean the world to me and i havent been able to tell them that i am depressed.i feel like there slipping away and i know its my fault but i dont know what to do or how to talk to them anymore.
iamthecodofhalo1 1 year ago
@iamthecodofhalo1 thanks for commenting back.i'm so glad that im not alone. i'm afraid to tell them because i know it would hurt them and i dont want them to feel any of this.
iamthecodofhalo1 1 year ago
@londonafter I know that feeling brother
yatter1 1 year ago
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these are all misereble losers, im the only person who's really been depressed ever, everyone else just wants attention
BananaSandwich1 1 year ago
I coped by also 'pampering myself' by going to the sauna and having aromatherapy. I even had a 'comfort box' with some favourite things which I used to fill 'for when I felt depressed'. If you are feeling down, you really need to pamper yourself.
cyclepod1 1 year ago 2
These doctors never seem to suggest art therapy or even the right foods. They just want us to dish out pills all the time. It is very limiting if you just relied on doctors.Art has really saved me.
cyclepod1 1 year ago
I think positiveness of having depression needs to be discussed too. For example, Spike Milligan wrote his best poetry in a psychiatric ward. It made me complete a marathon, it gave me a goal to live for and something simple to focus on.
, and I lost weight too.
cyclepod1 1 year ago 2
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cyclepod1 1 year ago
I would also say that being surrounded by 'sympathetic' type people helped. I now 'warn' friends if I have an episode, which fortunately doesn't last very long. I do find that I can be overwhelmed with stuff but I try to manage it by cutting down.
cyclepod1 1 year ago
I found that going for nature walks helpful, and cutting down on many things (saying no more), and cycling. I cut down on socialising to avoid more pressure... I took SSRIs for 6 months which got me through the worst. Now I do art therapy and embroidery and one of my pictures was sold in an art exhibition recently. I also did a marathon right in the thick of the depression. I was such a zombie but I started to get positive thoughts back again. I did read some books on cognitive therapy.
cyclepod1 1 year ago
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depression is just the modern label given when you experience separation from the eternal self, getting lost in the mind and refusing to deal with the emotional guidance coming forth from within. Easily curable with proper guidance however most follow advice from those who no nothing and seek to sell them drugs. the cure is within, the same place as the source. no external cure exists, it's all within already :D
davidchilderley 1 year ago
@davidchilderley Your spiritual approach may find a home in a history of philosophy class but has no application to real people. You can no more "cure" depression than you can regrow an amputated leg by thought alone. I suggest you pull your head out of your metaphysical butt and catch up on your biology homework.
watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc — for an excellent lecture on the intersection of biology and psychology in depression.
rlquinn1980 1 year ago 29
@rlquinn1980 Neanderthal thinking will get you nowhere... thought creates matter. thought also creates depression. you see depression is when you get lost in the mind with too much analytical thinking... depression is just a label and the power of thought created it and can also take it away.... maybe you're not supposed to 'get it' but try to be open and allowing and you'll be fine :D
davidchilderley 1 year ago
@davidchilderley You present a straw man and then repeat your earlier comment providing no evidence nor defending anything within my response to you. If you do not have the cognitive processes to form a simple argument, I can only doubt any claims of your god-like ability to create physical changes by forcing charges through unconnected neurons.
Thank you for presenting an excellent example of how New Age and magical thinking fails to understand the most basic tenets of science and medicine.
rlquinn1980 1 year ago 3
@rlquinn1980 unfortunately for you, i seek no argument. i do not support new age thinking or anything you care to accuse me of.... judge less and perceive more. the way you think is the old paradigm and what the system wants you to think. you have been programming to believe in science and not the power of your mind and heart.
evolve and open your mind and heart to the possibilities and let go of the need to be right. best wishes to you :D
davidchilderley 1 year ago
@davidchilderley Critical thinking should never be discouraged. "Being right" is important when you're trying to figure out what exactly is going on. If the world followed your attitude towards knowledge, we would never have identified the Placebo Effect.
With the trend towards positive psychology and mindfulness, science is converging with ancient wisdom and figuring out what is useful and what is wishful thinking. Don't disregard science. Science is self-correcting and ever improving.
baelish75 1 year ago 6
@davidchilderley You don't support new age thinking? Then what does the statement "thoughts create matter" qualify as?
Nauticus89 1 year ago
@Nauticus89 'thought creates matter' is scientifically proven... research some more & catch up buddy :D
davidchilderley 1 year ago
@davidchilderley Link me to the studies (NOT new age websites & youtube videos), cause the burden of proof is on you.. lmao, do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Perhaps I'm reading your statement wrong.. but I imagine you concentrating hard and then a chunk of matter suddenly appearing in front of you
Oh, what the hell am I doing getting into a debate with you, you have a shitload of videos about the law of attraction uploaded. Don't bother replying
Nauticus89 1 year ago
@Nauticus89 it's patience and understand that allows a person like myself to tolerate a person like you :D
davidchilderley 1 year ago
@davidchilderley I think the biggest problem with your argument is you come across as patronising, I know your intentions are good but if you understood conditions like manic depression or GAD ect you would realise that this is a flawed approach, sufferers are intelligent enough to know it lands on their own shoulders. And believe it or not the nhs is very reluctant to prescribe medication for depression, and stuff like xanax isn't exactly a household name.
EbsNhexz 11 months ago
@EbsNhexz i understand manic depression better than anyone and am just trying to educate people who have been brainwashed by docs selling drugs. i repeat, depression is the separation from the self. the self being your eternal spirit/soul/awareness within your physical body. when you have no spiritual connection to your eternal self, you get lost in the mind and depression sets in. one day soon you will all get this and remember who you really are. until then, think less and feel more :D
davidchilderley 11 months ago
@davidchilderley I'm a Buddhist my friend so I'm not automatically closed minded to your methods, In fact I agree with most of them. I apologise for implying you don't understand manic depression, it was hypocritical considering the point I was trying to make. My point was that your comments read as though you say people have brought the depression on themselves through ignorance, true or not this isn't a productive thing to hear, its like the opposite of a affirmation.
EbsNhexz 11 months ago