What I don’t want is congress bought and paid for by corporation; like bank of america, Wells Farg,o chase, GE, barmy and smith, time warner, kock bros, merle lynch, pb oil and exon oil. This amendment to the constitution is but a start.
There should be either amendment or laws that stop congress person (pc) from working after serving in congress for any one that sell the government serves or products for ten years. Congress sold out the real people of united states america and allowed all fraud, theft and the recession to happen. All to make corporate master happy.
For Christ sake, we dont want democracy, that is a majority rule, it will do nothing more than further divide the people, GOP/dem white/black rich/poor catholic/atheist anything to keep the people fighting and unattentive while they (corporate america) run off with everything. We want a constitutional republic, governed by the constitution, not people, not corporations, The constitution LIBERTY state sovereignty, read the declaration of independence Its all right there!!! Ron Paul Vermont 2012
@babybluesnowden This is what ron paul wants free trade NO regulation so people have to fight the corporation on their own. The people would have to Raise millions of dollars to prove what was dumped was harmful and keep chemical company from dumping toxic waist into ground water. Under what ron paul want the company would not have to keep records of what was dumped or have to provide records to courts.
I am beginning to think that everyone involved in the US gov. sits behind doors laughing at the people-they flip a coin to see who will take what side of an issue knowing full well that nothing will ever come of it but that it will make citizens think that they really have a gov. and Constitution left=blahahaha the US is a joke
What baloney, they have no idea what the citizens united case was about. There was nothing limiting rich people from donating before, what it does is allow for poor people to cooperate to buy adds.
It's an anti-incumbent ruling that I haven't seen anyone opposing it even understand.
@stevemcgee99 The same for me with you then, I really don't understand how people can have such strong opinions about something they haven't even bothered to understand.
The classic definition of citizenship was voting rights, as far as I know that isn't the case with corporations.
@Visfen You're right. Corporations can't vote. Only individuals can.
Individuals can pool money together to campaign. Imagine hundreds of thousands of poor, uneducated and BUSY people coordinating their efforts to raise money for a candidate, or to support a bill. Probably can't imagine that, because it doesn't happen.
An organization can reach out to these people. That's going to be a corporation, for financial liability reasons.
@Visfen What happened "before" was simply abuse of the 14th amendment since the 1886 Santa Clara case. Citizens Unites simply made it tangibly legal, rather than the headnote placed on the minutes of the case in 1886, which was abused case after case after case. Now, were trying to make it tangibly ILLEGAL, by amending the constitution. Poor people buying adds is obsurd and makes no headway in bringing this issue out into the mainstream public.
@justrock247 1886? 14th amendment? What the hell are you talking about you damn fool. Citizens United has nothing to do with Santa Clara, nor do you seem to understand what the Santa Clara ruling says.
Stop being a moron and listen to me, I am smarter than you, in order for poor people to be able to buy adds they have to incorporate. As far as rich people go, this law makes no difference to them.
If this was a "Republic" than the supreem court couldn't pass this law withour a unanimus vote (usagill). I agree this should be a "Republic". What i dont understand is your rage against the senator. Is it because he is standing up for the people and not the corporations? If thats the case than your a fucking moron if you think corporations have as much rights as you do asshole!
Congress shall make no law respecting the freedom of Religion, free exercise to that, freedom of press, freedom of speech, the right to say shit to the government about the bad shit it does. But Bernie the "Jew" Sanders the Communist we ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY YOU ASSHOLE. We are a "Republic" designed to stop scumbags like you and unions scumbags.
Just Enforce The TILLMAN ACT!!! It was never repealed, It's been around since 1907 but it's not being enforced, the problem is the courts and judges not enforcing this law... Close The Fucking Loopholes, kick out the corrupt judges that don't do things by the book.
I LOVE how the democrats wait until the republicans have a majority house before they start introducing bills that mean anything... they do it intentionally, they know this can't pass.
I don't trust this government to be messing about with the constitution...
I don't think an amendment is necessary, we just need to roll back everything that's been done to create the problem... piling law upon law doesn't work- It just undermines the enforcement of justice because it becomes to complex and conflated to work without totalitarianism...
Hey Bernie, guess what? Your proposed Ammendment will accomplish NOTHING. This didn't just begin with the SCOTUS ruling, it has been going on since the begining of the various "Foundations", who influence policy, buy academia, politicans and also PAY NO TAXES. Go after the Foundations if you want to truly do something.
Is there any laws or regulations that says that corporations are people, if there is that's ridiculous. Lets get smart folks corporations are made up off people that when operating and taking action behave in very different ways, "group think" would be a behavior. Back in the not so distant past people took a more healthy part in worlds they lived in and when a company went foul with the people for what ever reason they felt it in there profits or even went bankrupt.
@sethzky77 Its called a democratic constitutional republic.
You do vote directly for your representative, unlike Rome and other republics where the people or a limited subset did get to vote.
Or back in our founders day only land owners got to vote, which was quite undemocratic.
As a renter and knowing that such high percentage of land ownership isnt necessarily good and knowing it has nothing to do with quality of the person, I prefer our democratic republic over the old way.
It was meant to be a living document, to be amended, and it has been so amended. We are not what was originally written, we have evolved
I wouldnt even want the original constitution, it was flawed no less than the current one but with it I wouldnt be able to vote, and many people still wouldnt be free
We are now a democratic constitutional republic, go read some definitions.
@waltermh111 So if the democratic majority wanted to burn you at the stake, I guess that'd be okay huh? If you go by "definitions" the definition of a democracy is majority rule right? Do you actually think your vote counts? It's all rigged my friend! It's all rigged!
If the republic of the 1700s wanted to burn me at the stake, that would be ok huh?
If a society decided that it had good reason, I would have a fair trial. If I had an unfair trial it wouldnt be because of the type of economic/social system as our justice system is a separate branch with its own checks for a reason.
Now if the law was changed so that something trivial was made punishable by burning, well sheesh, that can happen ...
@SupraSovereign They demonize the state militia cause they're scared of a lead curtain flying their way. They won't win. they'll push it as far as they can and decay from the inside hopefully. If not, there's 300 million people in the u.s and probably 1 billion guns.
@sethzky77 Thanks for the reply. When you get a moment, please consider checking out Dr. Edwin Vieira, atty's Constitutional Homeland Security video.....
don't forge, according to the constitution as it stands, Black Americans are only counted as 3/5ths of a person. This has never been ammended from the constitution. The founding fathers predicted the Constituion would last about 200 years..and they were right..next step??..A Revolution to Re-establish our Bill of Rights...that means bo more Ptriot Act, no more TSA..no more "indefinite detainment?...our time is coming soon for blood to spill in the streets..mark my words today..USA Rebirth Now
The solution is to kill the so-called Democracy in such a way that democracy is limited only to election process and does not allow cherry-pick the Constitution. For example, in Ron Paul small government Republic 75% voting majority (women, gays, some non-white men) would not be able to vote in politicians who pay them back with never-ending entitlements of affirmative-action.
The decision in Citizens United is unconstitutional on its face. If we and corporations are equal now under law, why then are we treated unequally when it comes to political campaign disclosure, and the fact that corporations need not disclose? It's a violation of the equal protections clause.
Next time you vote, if the candidate has flashy commercials and big bucks.....vote for someone else. Better to pick someone unknown on the ticket at random than any of these well known crooks.
I'd love to see some reality come to our Government ...
The 28th. Amendment should start with, "GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK, ONLY AN INDIVIDUAL BORN OF TWO HUMAN PARENTS CAN BE CONSIDERED A REAL LIVING HUMAN BEING FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS .... blah, blah, blah...".
... word it anyway you like, but leave in the first 5 words untouched.
The fact that guys like Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul are so popular with us "younger folk" might show that there's some hope for this country after all. When we get our chance to lead maybe we'll restore this country to its full glory (assuming we last that long). I mean we were all taught growing up to revere our founding fathers... I don't see how people could support anyone BUT these guys since they represent their ideas so well.
@completebastard Don't worry. N E 1 who follows the law & tries 2 uphold the constitution will B labeled a 'terrorist' by the bankster occupied mafia (government) & rounded up into FEMA camps by the TSA & murdered by the national guard =) Remember, they R here 2 keep us safe!
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halliburtoncrusher 2 days ago
What I don’t want is congress bought and paid for by corporation; like bank of america, Wells Farg,o chase, GE, barmy and smith, time warner, kock bros, merle lynch, pb oil and exon oil. This amendment to the constitution is but a start.
samten10a 2 months ago
There should be either amendment or laws that stop congress person (pc) from working after serving in congress for any one that sell the government serves or products for ten years. Congress sold out the real people of united states america and allowed all fraud, theft and the recession to happen. All to make corporate master happy.
samten10a 2 months ago
@samten10a TERRIFIC...IS 10 YEARS ENOUGH TIME?
howardmcg1959 2 months ago
Yet this amendment allows Unions and Political Parties.
Sander's is a populous snake.
Fix the Fed? wtf??
Salvysahagun 2 months ago
For Christ sake, we dont want democracy, that is a majority rule, it will do nothing more than further divide the people, GOP/dem white/black rich/poor catholic/atheist anything to keep the people fighting and unattentive while they (corporate america) run off with everything. We want a constitutional republic, governed by the constitution, not people, not corporations, The constitution LIBERTY state sovereignty, read the declaration of independence Its all right there!!! Ron Paul Vermont 2012
babybluesnowden 2 months ago
@babybluesnowden This is what ron paul wants free trade NO regulation so people have to fight the corporation on their own. The people would have to Raise millions of dollars to prove what was dumped was harmful and keep chemical company from dumping toxic waist into ground water. Under what ron paul want the company would not have to keep records of what was dumped or have to provide records to courts.
samten10a 2 months ago
I am beginning to think that everyone involved in the US gov. sits behind doors laughing at the people-they flip a coin to see who will take what side of an issue knowing full well that nothing will ever come of it but that it will make citizens think that they really have a gov. and Constitution left=blahahaha the US is a joke
pugdogy 2 months ago
Bernie Sanders and Keith Olberman suck each other off on the weekends.
CAPTAINNNNAMERICA 2 months ago
What baloney, they have no idea what the citizens united case was about. There was nothing limiting rich people from donating before, what it does is allow for poor people to cooperate to buy adds.
It's an anti-incumbent ruling that I haven't seen anyone opposing it even understand.
Visfen 2 months ago
@Visfen Wow, I'm surprised (and glad) to see someone knows what this case was actually about.
Corporate citizenship is a completely different and independent issue from campaign finance.
stevemcgee99 2 months ago
@stevemcgee99 The same for me with you then, I really don't understand how people can have such strong opinions about something they haven't even bothered to understand.
The classic definition of citizenship was voting rights, as far as I know that isn't the case with corporations.
Visfen 2 months ago
@Visfen You're right. Corporations can't vote. Only individuals can.
Individuals can pool money together to campaign. Imagine hundreds of thousands of poor, uneducated and BUSY people coordinating their efforts to raise money for a candidate, or to support a bill. Probably can't imagine that, because it doesn't happen.
An organization can reach out to these people. That's going to be a corporation, for financial liability reasons.
stevemcgee99 2 months ago
@Visfen What happened "before" was simply abuse of the 14th amendment since the 1886 Santa Clara case. Citizens Unites simply made it tangibly legal, rather than the headnote placed on the minutes of the case in 1886, which was abused case after case after case. Now, were trying to make it tangibly ILLEGAL, by amending the constitution. Poor people buying adds is obsurd and makes no headway in bringing this issue out into the mainstream public.
justrock247 2 months ago
@justrock247 1886? 14th amendment? What the hell are you talking about you damn fool. Citizens United has nothing to do with Santa Clara, nor do you seem to understand what the Santa Clara ruling says.
Stop being a moron and listen to me, I am smarter than you, in order for poor people to be able to buy adds they have to incorporate. As far as rich people go, this law makes no difference to them.
Read the ruling would you?
Visfen 2 months ago
Bernie Sanders is the best thing going for the U.S. right now.
cobrompton 2 months ago 2
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If this was a "Republic" than the supreem court couldn't pass this law withour a unanimus vote (usagill). I agree this should be a "Republic". What i dont understand is your rage against the senator. Is it because he is standing up for the people and not the corporations? If thats the case than your a fucking moron if you think corporations have as much rights as you do asshole!
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dasherdo 2 months ago
Congress shall make no law respecting the freedom of Religion, free exercise to that, freedom of press, freedom of speech, the right to say shit to the government about the bad shit it does. But Bernie the "Jew" Sanders the Communist we ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY YOU ASSHOLE. We are a "Republic" designed to stop scumbags like you and unions scumbags.
usagill 2 months ago
Will this amendment limit the Unions as well? It should.
NoParty2012 2 months ago
Fuck this shit...
Just Enforce The TILLMAN ACT!!! It was never repealed, It's been around since 1907 but it's not being enforced, the problem is the courts and judges not enforcing this law... Close The Fucking Loopholes, kick out the corrupt judges that don't do things by the book.
DackIsBack 2 months ago 4
I also have to say...
I LOVE how the democrats wait until the republicans have a majority house before they start introducing bills that mean anything... they do it intentionally, they know this can't pass.
DackIsBack 2 months ago
I don't trust this government to be messing about with the constitution...
I don't think an amendment is necessary, we just need to roll back everything that's been done to create the problem... piling law upon law doesn't work- It just undermines the enforcement of justice because it becomes to complex and conflated to work without totalitarianism...
DackIsBack 2 months ago
~~> STOP THE ORPRATOCRACY...
sparkyj99 2 months ago
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No2BANCOR 2 months ago
This is really, really bad.
Madfoot713 2 months ago
Hey Bernie, guess what? Your proposed Ammendment will accomplish NOTHING. This didn't just begin with the SCOTUS ruling, it has been going on since the begining of the various "Foundations", who influence policy, buy academia, politicans and also PAY NO TAXES. Go after the Foundations if you want to truly do something.
papawx3 2 months ago
Sanders is an Communist and a Douche-bag.
usagill 2 months ago
Hey Oberman you are not News you are a Communist.
usagill 2 months ago 2
@usagill what are you mcCarthy's nephew?
LordKaisen 2 months ago
Go BERNIE!!!!
Showtimekaraokefl 2 months ago
NO WONDER we are all fucked.....ALZHEIMER'S has taken over D.C...
if he actually thinks that "they" are going to give up the b.s. control system.
IronRangeSurvival 2 months ago
Oh poor bernie.. does he really believe *they* would allow their supply of campaign cash be disrupted?
Burnz2much 2 months ago
are there really people that down vote this video?
dude12nothin 2 months ago
Just take away government's ability to help corporations. That would be easier.
BabelOn4infinity 2 months ago
"sanders dot senate dot com" says it all basically.
Since when is the Senate a commercial entity?
henkvanderlaak 2 months ago
I do not trust Sanders.
bigtex1453 2 months ago
@bigtex1453 Why. Because he believes that corporations should not be counted as a person?
Fringe111 2 months ago
@Fringe111
It has nothing to do with that.
bigtex1453 2 months ago
@bigtex1453 Then please explain yourself to me
Fringe111 2 months ago
@Fringe111
I do not agree with his theory of money and credit.
He was very upset at the Fed for loan swaps and rightly so. He was upset at the Fed for the excessive printing and rightly so.
But he was more upset that instead of actually printing all that money, HIS state should have gotten some of it.
He also had an interview with Jan Helfeld where he looked like a a complete dishonest suspicious hack.
I don't like him. Or trust him.
bigtex1453 2 months ago
Is there any laws or regulations that says that corporations are people, if there is that's ridiculous. Lets get smart folks corporations are made up off people that when operating and taking action behave in very different ways, "group think" would be a behavior. Back in the not so distant past people took a more healthy part in worlds they lived in and when a company went foul with the people for what ever reason they felt it in there profits or even went bankrupt.
MrSpan0701 2 months ago
if a rock can be a pet, why can't a corporation be a person?
TCostellos 2 months ago
Americans are too stupid - they want to be slaves
marniespeaks 2 months ago
@marniespeaks it s always careless and ignorant to make generalizations about a particular group of people...
jeremyshambles 2 months ago
@jeremyshambles looking at the nation and the two parties I'd call is a fact
marniespeaks 2 months ago
Democracy? We're supposed to be a republic! You dumb fuck!
sethzky77 2 months ago
supposed to right but we are not no more, please try listen to what his saying about his amendment
smoky281 2 months ago
@sethzky77 Its called a democratic constitutional republic.
You do vote directly for your representative, unlike Rome and other republics where the people or a limited subset did get to vote.
Or back in our founders day only land owners got to vote, which was quite undemocratic.
As a renter and knowing that such high percentage of land ownership isnt necessarily good and knowing it has nothing to do with quality of the person, I prefer our democratic republic over the old way.
waltermh111 2 months ago
@waltermh111 wrong........go read the constitution and try again.
sethzky77 2 months ago
@sethzky77 I go by definitions
It was meant to be a living document, to be amended, and it has been so amended. We are not what was originally written, we have evolved
I wouldnt even want the original constitution, it was flawed no less than the current one but with it I wouldnt be able to vote, and many people still wouldnt be free
We are now a democratic constitutional republic, go read some definitions.
en.wikipedia . org/wiki/Democracy
even has a part specifically about republic
waltermh111 2 months ago
@waltermh111 So if the democratic majority wanted to burn you at the stake, I guess that'd be okay huh? If you go by "definitions" the definition of a democracy is majority rule right? Do you actually think your vote counts? It's all rigged my friend! It's all rigged!
sethzky77 2 months ago
@sethzky77 Your analogy works in any situation.
If the republic of the 1700s wanted to burn me at the stake, that would be ok huh?
If a society decided that it had good reason, I would have a fair trial. If I had an unfair trial it wouldnt be because of the type of economic/social system as our justice system is a separate branch with its own checks for a reason.
Now if the law was changed so that something trivial was made punishable by burning, well sheesh, that can happen ...
waltermh111 2 months ago
@waltermh111 under a representative system. In fact, we have such a system now still, and it creates such laws and punishments.
You create this extreme analogy that contains no logic.
A society doesnt just burn people for nothing, at least not since the mayan days lol.
As for your last line, representative democracy, its a mixed system, the system is rigged but for other reasons than because we are one or the other.
We do need to get money out of politics, a whole other topic.
waltermh111 2 months ago
@waltermh111 yep. It could easily happen.
sethzky77 2 months ago
@sethzky77 No wonder they demonized the constitutional state militia....so they can get away with all these crimes without a worry about it.
SupraSovereign 2 months ago
@SupraSovereign They demonize the state militia cause they're scared of a lead curtain flying their way. They won't win. they'll push it as far as they can and decay from the inside hopefully. If not, there's 300 million people in the u.s and probably 1 billion guns.
sethzky77 2 months ago
@sethzky77 Thanks for the reply. When you get a moment, please consider checking out Dr. Edwin Vieira, atty's Constitutional Homeland Security.....
watch?v=x6a4g4AemX0
SupraSovereign 2 months ago
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@sethzky77 Thanks for the reply. When you get a moment, please consider checking out Dr. Edwin Vieira, atty's Constitutional Homeland Security video.....
watch?v=x6a4g4AemX0
No2BANCOR 2 months ago
When is Current TV gonna use some of Olbermann's 7 million dollar salary to pay the light bill?
wolfengheist 2 months ago
don't forge, according to the constitution as it stands, Black Americans are only counted as 3/5ths of a person. This has never been ammended from the constitution. The founding fathers predicted the Constituion would last about 200 years..and they were right..next step??..A Revolution to Re-establish our Bill of Rights...that means bo more Ptriot Act, no more TSA..no more "indefinite detainment?...our time is coming soon for blood to spill in the streets..mark my words today..USA Rebirth Now
lanagual 2 months ago
if corperations are not people anymore and the reverse- most modern law will not apply to US anymore.
jsmythib 2 months ago
The solution is to kill the so-called Democracy in such a way that democracy is limited only to election process and does not allow cherry-pick the Constitution. For example, in Ron Paul small government Republic 75% voting majority (women, gays, some non-white men) would not be able to vote in politicians who pay them back with never-ending entitlements of affirmative-action.
ForLiberty888 2 months ago
Every justice that voted for this is a traitor and sold our country, there should be term limits on the supreme court for just this reason.
makeitallrite11 2 months ago
Its a Corporatocracy..
As Mr Carlin said..
"It’s a big club, and YOU aint in it."
flyyspit 2 months ago 6
@flyyspit George Carlin is my hero!!!!!
shacklesman 2 months ago
@flyyspit George Carlin is my hero!!!
shacklesman 2 months ago
The decision in Citizens United is unconstitutional on its face. If we and corporations are equal now under law, why then are we treated unequally when it comes to political campaign disclosure, and the fact that corporations need not disclose? It's a violation of the equal protections clause.
mrbhave 2 months ago
Do this via the states. To hell with the politicians doing on Congress.
biggydx 2 months ago
Next time you vote, if the candidate has flashy commercials and big bucks.....vote for someone else. Better to pick someone unknown on the ticket at random than any of these well known crooks.
Mahoivlich 2 months ago
Gingrich/Romney 2012: At least we aren't Bernie Sanders.
XulChris 2 months ago
If corporations are people can they be sentenced with the death penalty like some people are???
TheRevolutionCanada 2 months ago
Socialism is dead! People are awake in the U.S. Thanks to obongo and sanders here!
BeantownJim 2 months ago
I'd love to see some reality come to our Government ...
The 28th. Amendment should start with, "GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK, ONLY AN INDIVIDUAL BORN OF TWO HUMAN PARENTS CAN BE CONSIDERED A REAL LIVING HUMAN BEING FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS .... blah, blah, blah...".
... word it anyway you like, but leave in the first 5 words untouched.
grizzzlyjoe 2 months ago 20
What happened to Keith's set? What happened to Keith?
Rodney92 2 months ago
I just flushed the toilet and I noticed America going down the drain along-side my poop.
WoW
jaalul 2 months ago 13
@jaalul You must a big asshole.
tjohn1986 2 months ago
@jaalul *have
tjohn1986 2 months ago
The fact that guys like Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul are so popular with us "younger folk" might show that there's some hope for this country after all. When we get our chance to lead maybe we'll restore this country to its full glory (assuming we last that long). I mean we were all taught growing up to revere our founding fathers... I don't see how people could support anyone BUT these guys since they represent their ideas so well.
completebastard 2 months ago
@completebastard Don't worry. N E 1 who follows the law & tries 2 uphold the constitution will B labeled a 'terrorist' by the bankster occupied mafia (government) & rounded up into FEMA camps by the TSA & murdered by the national guard =) Remember, they R here 2 keep us safe!
HornSpeakersSuk 2 months ago
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED, period.
Zakdayak 2 months ago
Another amendment huh? Can't even recognize the Constitution anymore. It's an Amendmitution.
NorEEzta 2 months ago
trollface
TheMarksmenCat 2 months ago
Ron Paul supports Citizens United, therefore this amendment is bad!
Austerity Is Freedom! Vote Ron Paul 2012!
bulldogger 2 months ago