Anthony & Jerzy shmooze about one of Dick's books

[JiffySpook]

Interesting what Burgess said about diachronic time, with my watching this in 2012, and completely unable to find a copy of Dick's book.

[nszjaszczur]

Jerzy Kosiński? Bull... His real name was Josek Lewinkopf. Finally, he did something good; he kill himself.

[elskutcho1]

@nszjaszczur You posted a comment sicker than whatever offense I imagine you took from Kozinski's writing. I assume from what is either broken English or a fourth grade writing level that you are Polish, in which case it is probably both.

[darkprose]

Matt Groening said it once, and I agree: Cavett had probably the best talk show, ever.

[darkprose]

Burgess also cowrote the Zeffirelli miniseries, Jesus of Nazareth. Brilliant man.

[heyboy08]

what are Jerzy's boots??? I need them

[JiffySpook]

See Burgess cringe when A Clockwork Orange is mentioned, probably thinking of all the money he's lost.

[xtrmsprts]

Burgess. So this guy is the author of a clockwork orange, he totally looks it. Disheveled hair, sunk eyes surrounded by dark circles, ashen skin from working all hours in a dingy basement whose walls contain pictures of adolf hitler and karl marx. great guests and of course Cavett himself is a class in himself

[JamesPopaloaf]

@xtrmsprts More likely walls displaying a succession of popes with penises drawn on. Marx and Hitler were too materialistic.

[xtrmsprts]

@JamesPopaloaf haha you're probably right.

[shapeshifter1168]

@xtrmsprts whoa buddy whoa. Burgess was one of the most intelligent people who ever lived. And I'd highly recommend M/F or INSIDE MR. ENDERBY or HONEY FOR THE BEARS.

[xtrmsprts]

@shapeshifter1168 whoa buddy whoa, let's be careful with our hyperboles. lol Nah, I wasn't putting down ol Burgess in my previous comment. I liked the way he talks here and I like Kubrick's C.O.

[darkprose]

@xtrmsprts He also co-wrote Zeffirelli's Jesus of Nazareth, too, so you can't judge anyone by looks.

[kukbmx]

Kosiński was writing lies about Poland.

[gnolti]

Kosinski gets a bad rap but the stories were his, if not the prose. So while you could say that his public image as a non-native master of English was a fraud, you cannot say the same about the novels as narratives.

[bulakaiser]

I could listen to Anthony Burgess all day! Love the man's anecdotes and insight, eloquence and accent, and more besides.

[SME1984]

Anthony Burgess is the man! I love to see him and hear how he speak, amazing! Thank You!

[mikeycam1990]

wow that guy in the brown suit is amazingly smart i mean wow for somone who cant speak english really well he knows how to use words. i was just staring at him just in awe at how much sense he was making.

[toReasonWhy]

I want to puke at the thought of hearing that droogie bullshit. It can't compare to the reality of every word from Kosinski.

[wysey100]

Incredibly, incredibly shmooze'l. And I can't belief how much of a self satirical caricature of himself Burgess actually is. I mean, the eye brows, socks, and above all, the accompanied bardic shmooze'l of Dick. Oh how a bard can shmooze'l a dick.

[keytoothed]

Great comment. What saddens me is how, though we in the same if not greater kind of historical turbulence as when this show was filmed, you would be hard-pressed to find equivalent writers of today talking, schmoozing, whatever, on a daytime talkshow. The best you'll get is The View, a group of lobotomized, socially irrelevant tools damaging humanity by the mere fact that they're using up too much oxygen. I guess maybe Cavett's was a golden age of daytime talk.

[toReasonWhy]

That doesn't even approach the best you'll get, but nice try-- just as in Cavett's day, the intellectuals who knew how to turn to his channel-- now they are the smart ones who know simply how to tune in to Charlie Rose on PBS.

Pynchon is superior to Burgess, and though Kosinski does not live, Kosinski was also superior. Kosinski was one of the best writers of that century. Also Beckett, Joyce et al. Burgess, ha-ha.

[keytoothed]

As if Kosinski really wrote in English; he was not a Nabokov; your idol was a fraud. That you tout him as you do advertises more than just your ignorance. And I don't see Pynchon on this talk show dais, or any other, ever, except, cartoonized, for his cameo on the Simpsons. Name dropping's the same as saying, " I knows Koong Foo, Kay-ra-te--and lotsa other fow-ren words. Hai ya!!!" Please. Why is it that a troll's response rarely has anything to do with the comment he's carbuncled under?

[toReasonWhy]

How did it have nothing to do with the comment? You nostalgically lamented the sad condition of talk shows, in response to a comment suckling the Burgess teat. I referred to a great modern interview show, and spoke against Burgess idolatry. And in favor of others more deserving of such idolatry. The response seems closely connected to the comment, to me. Maybe I'm dense.

[keytoothed]

It's your own literary idolatry you're projecting, grasshoppah.

[toReasonWhy]

I agree, notwithstanding your own

[toReasonWhy]

Ah well, I do sometimes drunkenly make unnecessary or stupid youtube comments, and for some reason against logic I try to justify them while sober, so please forgive my trolling.

[jedimasterbooboo]

their idol was a fraud? You know what, funny story, Kentucky has still not contacted me KNOWING that someone's ass is on the line. Some people can be such sociopaths, I think. Not like you and your "live honestly" policy. hearts and hearts and hearts to you, you are gorgeous.

[iown813]

@keytoothed so this would make him the greatest fraudster of all time. please, you need your brain examined. people love to hate on genuises

[keytoothed]

@iown813 The painted bird is a beautiful book. But, it was ghost-written by an American poet. Look at Nabokov. True, in Russia, he was speaking English as very small child because of private tutors, but he's one of the best prose stylists in Modern American lit. When I found out about the plagrism of Jerzy, I was very let down. I still love The Painted Bird.

[Mangina9000]

@keytoothed There's plenty of intelligent forums to see good debate and smart discourse. Television is forced to go the route of The View and the lowest common denominator because television is useless now, with the advent of the internet and the big bang of new channels on digital cable the target demographics are splattered across infinite space. Daytime TV is just not important anymore precisely because there's so much more interesting things happening everywhere else.

[heisfiercetoo]

Burgess was a true genius and I can think of no other living writer who even comes close. But yes, this was schmoozing to the max. In his defense, Burgess satirises the entire process in his novel The Clockwork Testament. But my God...does anyone remember Jerzy Kosinski these days? And who is that woman?

[toReasonWhy]

Plenty of people remember Kosinski. He is brilliant. David Foster Wallace's support for Kosinski helped a little with a resurgence but his acclaim never died with his popularity. I have the same question about the woman, I've been trying to find information but haven't. As for Burgess, Pynchon and McCarthy match him. Samuel Beckett, who surprisingly lived almost parallel to Burgess, far exceeded him in genius.

[matt7333]

Thankyou.

[djpancake]

funny listening to these comments about the impermanence of television vs. the permanence of books... on youtube!

[unfortunatebeam]

Yes! That was interesting to me too. I'm confused by some things though. The thing is they taped those shows back then too, so you would think that they would consider that there is a chance that they would be seen again. Also, by this time in the early seventies,I think they were airing reruns of fifties sitcoms, weren't they?

This was still a few years before home recording technology though. So the choice of seeing something again was still out of most people's hands.

[wysey100]

exactly.

[GPLockey]

@djpancake I was thinking the same. I wonder if Burgess would've thought to reconsider his attribution of television with the qualities of synchronic time with the benefit of foresight. Youtube has meant that television as old as this now has a place of storage, albeit an immaterial one - - archived and disseminated at the click of a button.

[GPLockey]

@djpancake

Warhol's '5 minutes of fame' towards which we are said to be all so frantically scurrying can now, as never before, play out for an infinite amount of time.

It's having its impact as we speak. I can just imagine a legion of desperate, one time stars prolonging their sense of importance, clicking away; dreaming.

[lexington210]

@djpancake great point! LOL! love it!

[djpancake]

oh man burgess's hair is too great!!

[alex2xa]

It's real horrorshow my droogie!