Archeologist: Nazareth Dwelling Found From Jesus' Time

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

An Atheist fundamentalist said: "The IAA report makes no mention of first-century remains"

From IAA's own website: "The artifacts recovered from inside the building were few and mostly included fragments of pottery vessels from the Early Roman period (the first and second centuries CE)." tinyurl*com/3gmkvfj

The level of denial is obscene, unless of course this was intentional disinformation, then it's hideous malice. You couldn't trust these animals (by their admission) to tell you the time!

[JPRichardson]

@megalopistos I fully agree with what you just wrote. The title of this video is misleading, and the content misinforms about the actual discovery.

[JPRichardson]

@megalopistos As I said, there is NO evidence whatsoever of any house of "the time of Jesus" being found.

[molldrumlish]

I wonder what James Randi would say about this?

[heartybbq]

@molldrumlish he might say "big whoop". These archaeologists may have found evidence of a two thousand year old Jewish settlement. But is that really a surprise? There is nothing to link the bible stories to such relics. This video is just a whole lot of spin to sell an ordinary find and feed the local tourism.

[JPRichardson]

No “house from the time of Jesus” has been found at Nazareth. At this time, the official release from the IAA (Israel Antiquities Authority) is the primary report and ultimate source of information on this excavation. The IAA report makes no mention of first-century remains, much less of evidence from the turn of the era. As is normal, statements going beyond it must be supported by the presentation of verifiable evidence, and statements contradicting it must be viewed with skepticism.

[JPRichardson]

These "discoveries" are being sponsored by Israel's Government Tourist Corporation. This same "archaeologist", Yardena Alexandre, claimed not so long ago (2004) she had discovered the location of Jesus' first miracle in Cana, presentting some old jars to the media as "evidence". Information makes you powerful.

[JPRichardson]

@megalopistos All Randi claims against the existence of nazareth as described in the Bible remain true.

[kataishin]

stfu

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

"it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD.."

Dr. Greenleaf, Royal Professor of Law at Harvard, one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived..wrote the famous legal volume, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. He originally determined, once & for all, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection.

Helps if you have a clue little boy.

[agnostaxian]

@AllOtherNamesUsed Have you actually studied anything by scholars of the historical Jesus or are you just another member of the masses of ignoramouses that are a part of the utube atheist doofus possey?

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

lol. no, you see Dr. Greenleaf, one of the world's leading legal minds in history, he originally set out to expose the "myth" of the resurrection once and for all and wound up converting to Christianity. The above quote was his conclusion.

[agnostaxian]

All, ooops, my bad. I see :P

[mufafa777]

one question you have to ask is, How did christianity survive? they had nothing to gain and everything to lose, how could a rag tag bunch of christians survive the roman empire? and even then, how did it spead so rapidly? something big had to have happened, and it's the size of the Reserection, that's the only rational explaination, unless someone else has a better explaination, which I have yet to hear.

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

Let's be conservative, the frag is dated 50-65 AD, best case is 50. Most aren't ready to accept that seeing how they were trained for decades believing otherwise & all the historical & textbooks would be trashed, but this wouldn't be the first time scholars had to shift papyri dates closer to the NT time period.

One day we'll find the parchment autographs Peter, Paul & finally John canonized. It's shown they were compiling one near their death from biblical clues most know nothing about.

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

"oldest fragment of the new trestament dates from 125 B.C.E."

So the NT frag dates 122 years before Christ was born? I like it.

"The copies were found best case scenario 30 years after suggested date of writing"

Best case? Not really since one of the leading papyrologists in the world contends P64 (Matt fragment) dates to 50 AD, and most believe Mark was written before Matt. This fits perfectly within eyewitness period & agrees with earliest external accounts of who wrote the gospels & when.

[mouhdie]

Great discovery, it is the time for Jesus to return to rescue his church and judge those that persecuting Christians in the Middle East and around the world.

[derryducky]

Look at that, proof there were Jews in Israel at the time of Jesus :P

[xtrashed]

And only a short time ago, skeptics and atheists said that Nazareth didn't even exist!! Isn't archeology incredible!!

[Uenbg]

@xtrashed

If you like Biblical Archeology, there's a really good video on my frontpage if you're interested. It shows, among other things, the little piece of wall around Jericho where Rachab (a prostitute) lived. The ONLY piece of the wall that's still standing to this very day, it's absolutely amazing to see it with your own eyes. The rest of the wall is destroyed exactly the way it is described in the bible. On top of that, you can even see the window where she let the 2 scouts escape!

[JOS3EMMANUEL]

wasnt jesus a jew?..

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

Yes, until we see a letter from Christ's own pen he didn't exist.

Wait we'll just say it's a fake.

Until we see the resurrection on You Tube, he didn't exist.

Then again we'll just say it's CGI.

Ok, how about until we build a time machine and go back to AD 30 Jerusalem and witness it firsthand?

Wait, we'll just say it's a hallucination or a dream.

Any antichrist can deny anything if he wants to, and damned the reasoning or logic. Let them count themselves unworthy.

[macbrack]

Who is this person 'jesus'?? did they find his wallet in the house then?? or maybe some letters?? or a tax bill??? any documentary proof whatsoever...of any sort??? No..!!! not one shred of evidence except religious conjecture thats possibly based on stories circulating around 200 years after the period of the 'house'...in fact there is nor ever has been any physical proof for this 'jesu' person...nor god or much else to hang 2000 years of bigoted intolerant belief on.....

[89MohaA]

religion is bullshit. there is no God. you can breath easier now.

[macauley10]

Why do you waste your time posting if you have no question about it. Read from the bottom up and I think we have gone over this. What you believe is your choice and is up to you dude! Good night to all and have a Merry "CHRISTmas"

[89MohaA]

yes have a merry HORUSmas.

[valu777]

and we have proof do we?

[exacerbatedtaboo]

Firstly you can't use a bible to prove the existence of a god or jesus for that matter. Also, the video is making a HUGE assumption that Jesus actually existed in the first place and other than the bible nobody has been able to prove that. Nor have they been able to prove a god exists. Those who say creation worships god or some crap like that have never been outside the country and are brainwashed or ignorant or both. Show me without using the bible where your proof is for god and Jesus.

[valu777]

yopu can use the bible as it is letters from eye witneses

[exacerbatedtaboo]

prove that. For instance. Who wrote the book of genesis? Was that an eyewitness account? Nope. What about the description of hell? Was that an eyewitness account? Nope. By that logic I can prove the existence of a talking cat by reading Cat In The Hat. So again! Without using the bible. Prove to me that either one actually exist. And now that you mention it. prove to me the bible is an eyewitness account.

[valu777]

try mathew , mark ,luke, john., james, paul ect from the new testement collection of letters ,, yes real letters to real people ,, eye witness accounts of the life death and resurection of Jesus,,

now thats real proof

[exacerbatedtaboo]

prove to me they were telling the truth. Also explain to me why it took them over forty years to write those gospels? If "jesus" was so great then why didn't they write the stories on the spot? You can't prove god by using the bible so get over yourself already.

[valu777]

they all except John were executed for telling this account ,, it was dangerous to write it early , all the people knew Jesus earler an there was no need to write about it then

[exacerbatedtaboo]

ALL the people knew Jesus. You sure do make a lot of claims you can't prove or back up with any kind of evidence. If you don't have nothing more to add to this conversation other than a bible then I'm just going to assume you have nothing to support your case and leave it at that. You be deluded all you want to. It isn't like most of youtube doesn't already know that about you anyway. Bye PCS.

[naliuj]

valu777 you are being very dishonest. Even the most religious biblical scholars have to concede that that names attributed to the gospels were a later addition and no one knows who the original writers were. And as for paul you need to read your bible because he never had a verifiable encounter with Jesus.

[valu777]

they are all original writings or copies of the originals

there is no concern on the validity of the bible

[naliuj]

there are no original writtings the oldest fragment of the new trestament dates from 125 B.C.E. The copies were found best case scenario 30 years after suggested date of writing. Where else in your life do you accept such faulty evidence You really need to research your early Christian history. I would also suggest the validity of the bible is in much question, what of all the New Testament apocryphal literature does that count as scripture as well?

[valu777]

they are still accounts of eye witnesses from real people to real people sorry fail

[naliuj]

yah like you could prove that in a court of law, reasonable evidence fail

[valu777]

it would stand up no problems

[naliuj]

i hope you never have to defend yourself in a court of law because your understanding of reasonable evidence is a travesty

[valu777]

we will see at the great white throne judgement who is correct on that comment

[macauley10]

The two questions that prove the existence of God. 1) If at first nothing existed, how did nothing become something? 2) Is it even possible for something to be created from nothing? If you say it was a cloud of particles that evolved or a cloud of gas to start things off how come our smartest doctors etc are still trying to figure out all the wonders of the human body. Who or what created the cloud of gas?

[exacerbatedtaboo]

O.k....Let's approach these questions from a different angle. If at first nothing existed then how did god create nothing out of something? Scientists are not the ones who are saying something came from nothing. The religious are. For example. Who created god?

[valu777]

God is the only creator -- he can make our relm from his relm

[exacerbatedtaboo]

You didn't answer my question. What created god? You just said you can't have something out of nothing so you must know that means that something created god. Also what did god use to create the universe? Also if I were to show you a Batman comic book would that prove the existence of Batman? If not how does the bible prove god?

[mtcanz]

" - not the ones who are saying something came from nothing."

True. Where science says all space, matter, & time came from a primordial pea, the bible says all space, matter and time came forth by God's Word..

One says everything from almost nothing "just because"

The other - everything from exactly nothing - "because"

Either way, something incredible and unbelievable has happened -- but only one of those scenarios does not violate the fundamental principle of cause & effect - God created.

[Uenbg]

@mtcanz

quote: "Where science says all space, matter, & time came from a primordial pea,"

I would like to correct that slightly, all government funded and supported science (education/media), and socially accepted science (government/corporate funded science magazines have a big social influence on other scientists) "says all space, matter, & time came from a primordial pea."

Where as most independent science supports creation, under heavy social and economic pressure, even persecution.

[Uenbg]

@mtcanz

If you're interested (see previous reply) you can see what these scientists have to tell on my page in my playlist called "Longer scientific documentaries". Since their work is heavily opposed and suppressed by the NWO and their naive and probably ignorant pawns in the highest scientific positions (just like the IPCC, check my playlists called "Can science always be trusted?" or "Can your educational system always be trusted?" for more info).

[Yochananable]

@exacerbatedtaboo

Can you see the feeling named or called love, no !

However you can see that through acts and speeches and deeds.

[katey1dog]

Did they find Jebus?

[BeatsRoyale]

Didnt Jesus come from Africa?

[megamix2495]

According the fools a couple of posts down it is apparently.

[ryen1992]

" woe to the man who betrays the Son of Man! it would be better for him if he had not been born"

[mockingarab]

They will find out that Jesus was phony just like what Jews thought about him all the time...

[Gandhiablo]

Did you find the Frankincense, myrrh an gold?

I betcha did ya looters.

Archeologists are looters and grave robbers

[dedes016]

Good for all christians. bad for the haters

[GreatestSingerEver01]

Man! I just can't believe there are so many people that hate. This is wonderful! Well... maybe not for the people who'd love to prove that the jews never existed in Israel, and for those who'd like to see Christians become converted to their way of thinking.  Wishful thinking on their part. Merry Christmas to all the people around the world, and to those acrheologists who care enough about history to dig it up and prove it.

[DaytonaRoadster]

Didnt Jesus live in Galiee?

[engeo1993]

what a bunch of bullshit.. in time for christmas too. Coincidence? i think not.

[puppydog88]

You do know that Jesus wasn't born on Dec. 25th right? And that the Bible speaks AGAINST celebrating this quote "heathen" holiday?

[greenguy249]

jeebus!

[JDaKingman]

YAY!! cuz i fucking hate atheists their annoying....

[informationauth]

AP, don't be scaring the atheist.

[TheLiberalssuckdick]

hahaha.

I heard the Obama drones do a pilgrimage to Kenya during their lifetime. It's required.

[CJCA915]

@informationauth How would be scary to us?

It just proves that Jesus lived in Nazareth, doesn't prove he was the son of God, or as some believe God himself, if you believe in the Trinity, or some magic man.

[megamix2495]

Remember it clearly states in the video that according to the old testament jesus lived as a boy during that time. Nothing in that video proves Jesus actually lived there or even existed for that matter. The woman said that this was a typical residence during that time where jesus "could have lived"........so another epic fail on the proof.

[PowerSprinter]

how is this an epic fail.

nobody said that it was proof. nobody said that it closes any doubt

[CJCA915]

People (Fundamentalist Christians) will undoubtedly use this as 100% proof that Jesus is exactly who the Bible and other religious texts say he is/was, it's inevitable from religious fundamentalists.

[valu777]

praise Jesus the saviour of the world

[CJCA915]

How will he save the world?

When he appears, the world will be turned into heaven, after it's burned up or w/e, so I was told by a Christian, so how does he save the world? More like he destroys the world, to make it into heaven.

[valu777]

ct 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

[valu777]

Act 13:47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, [saying], I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

[CJCA915]

You are going to have to do better than Bible verses.

[valu777]

i canot do better than Gods word ---

your blood is on your own head

[CJCA915]

You have proof it's God's words.

My blood is on my own head, what's that supposed to mean?

Where should my blood be?

[valu777]

eye witneses , thats enough proof for me

your life is in the blood - but your eternal life is your own loss -- i meen dont blame me when you fry

[CJCA915]

lol, well, until I witness something, God is no more real than Santa Claus, heck they look alike.

lol, well, a soul can't fry or feel pain, because you need a central nervous system to feel anything. Also, at least I will be frying with my fellow logical thinkers, rather than a bunch of fairy followers.

[Perfectibilisti]

@CJCA915 Santa Claus is real. He died like 1700 years ago. God is real too. Everything that exists is solid proof that God exists. All creation gives unending glory and praise to it's Creator, including you. You're just not very good at it.

[CJCA915]

lol, their was a guy named Saint Nicolas who gave out gifts, but he was not the character we know him by today, we all know it's parents who put presents under the tree, up until a few years ago, I wasn't able to help, because I will a little Santa believer, so my parents thought, but I knew it was them who just put "From: Santa" on the present.

When I see God, or real proof, then I will believe until then, I am not going to be convinced by some book, of books, of stories, by primitive men.

[valu777]

oh did you witness evilooion ?

[CJCA915]

Witness what?

Evolution?

If that's what you mean, then yes, in fact everyday, with each day, everything slowly evolves, evolution is a constant in this universe, and it occurs over millions of years.

[valu777]

so you say but have you seen evilootion in action or do you just have blind faith in it ?

[CJCA915]

Do you know how to spell "evolution?"

Faith is belief in something that may exist or not, aka faith in God, and I know evolution is real, look at animals or any other species of life on this planet, for example, cats used to be huge, some still are, Lions, Tigers, etc, another example, elephants are descendants of Mammoths, aka evolved from them, just b/c they get smaller doesn't mean, they didn't evolve, it's influenced by their environment.

[macauley10]

God created evolution as he created life and everything that has to do with life. The only answer to these questions I have found is that a being has always existed and he is God. He has the power to create something from nothing. He is so great no human has the intelligence to understand how he exists. We just get confused if we try to comprehend. This is where faith comes in.....

[CJCA915]

Yes, God is the only being that exist from nothing, coming from people who say you can't get something from nothing, who created God, everything must be created according to you guys, so who or what created God, and so forth, God can't just exist, he had to have been created by your logic of something can't come from nothing.

[macauley10]

This could go on forever. Like I said he has always been. Dont try to think into this or you will get confused. Its just the only thing that is logical and either you choose to believe this or you will try to figure it out for the rest of your mortal life.

[CJCA915]

I am not confused at all, God is what makes me confused, I understand evolution with perfect clarity, so God is in a way a scapegoat.

[macauley10]

Dont think you are supposed to understand God. That is part of the test he made for us that we have to believe in him. You know how our 16 year old sons think they know it all and when they are 25they come to us and tell us how smart we are. Its something like that I guess. We have to trust and have faith and someday we will understand it all.

[CJCA915]

Well, if the Bible is the word of God, and the Bible is full of redundant verses and stuff. I am only 19, so I don't have a 16 year old son.

Well, I don't want to know it all, because if we know it all, won't we be just like God, and I thought there can only be one God?

Anyway, I don't believe and until I see legitimate proof, not going to happen, I was a Christian, but then I reached my age of reason, as far as religion is concerned, in high school, probably around the 9th grade.

[macauley10]

I have a 19 year old son and I was also 19 so I hear you. I went through that at your age and came back full circle. I did plenty of drinking and partying in the Marines and off and on since then. All I can say is do your best and what you believe in is what you believe in but keep an open mind. The things I told you are what my dad told me and they all make perfect sense now..... Peace out

[CJCA915]

Well, until I see 100% accurate documented proof, then I will believe, and even then it won't be any religious version of God, because I find that if God exists, then religion makes him/her/it look like a prick, in my honest opinion.

I don't have problem with their being a God, if prove of existence arises, but my problem is the depiction of God in religion.

[valu777]

look to God and not man read the bible newtestement for your self cheers

[CJCA915]

I have read the Bible, why do you think I find it ludicrous, and if you read up, I was a Christian.

[macauley10]

I agree with you on that one. I had a hard time going to church for a long time because I hate authority and people telling me what to do. I get tired of fake people that say one thing and do another. I would guess you may be a little like me. Funny thing is I live my life pretty much to help people and I am not happy with myself unless I am basically following what it says is right and wrong in the bible. I screw up from time to time but do my best.

[CJCA915]

I don't hate authority, etc. I was in a position of authority myself, I made it to 2nd Lt. in Army JROTC.

Well, I help people regardless of what the Bible says, I even help people the Bible says God is against, because I don't think a God who is omni-whatever takes your fancy, would really care about such things, and the Bible clearly explains God's feelings towards women, etc.

[valu777]

ever killed any one ? --- just intrested

[CJCA915]

No, I am 19, regardless of my age, I still haven't, and I won't, for any unjust reason.

Also, Army JROTC is a extracurricular course in high school, it's the alternative to P.E.

[valu777]

yes its right Jesus as God and Gods son became the scapegoat ---- scape goat is from the bible

[CJCA915]

Well, if believe Jesus is God, the trinity, then God sacrificed himself, to himself, to appease himself.

Also, 1scape; intended as translation of Hebrew ʽazāzēl (probably name of a demon), as if ʽēz 'ōzēl goat that departs—Lev 16:8(Authorized Version)

You Christians like to use God as a scapegoat, blaming him for everything, unless of course it's evil, then you blame the other fairy, known as Satan, or Lucifer, or the devil, whatever takes your fancy.

[macauley10]

You tried Acid right?? LOL He sacrificed his body and his spirit never died. He did this as a lesson to us....

[CJCA915]

What do you mean, tried Acid?

[macauley10]

Just a thought after reading the "ʽazāzēl' comment. Probably wrong for me to say but it was all in fun. I was taking the change you had a sense of humor. Enjoy the posts but I need to get some sleep.

[CJCA915]

No, that's the first part of the explanation for the definition of scapegoat.

[macauley10]

I was Marine Corps Recon from 1988-1992. I will tell you I have saved some lives and the rest is between me and my maker to work out

[valu777]

not for a lesson - he bankrupted the universe by dieing as he was free of the curse of death -- death had no right to kill him --but did so

[macauley10]

Basically he put himself in a human body and proved to us that he could take the pain. He did this as an example to us. Obviously you are feeling some pain from the way you are writing. I would say he felt more than you or I have ever felt as proven by his actions. That's why he did it.. so we couldnt say he doesnt know what its like to be human.

[CJCA915]

I don't feel any pain, I am a tad tired, but I am not feeling any pain.

[valu777]

Well, if believe Jesus is God, the trinity, then God sacrificed himself, to himself, to appease himself. yes this is true God creats a new blood line --a one of a kind --gets killed to forfill the law --on behalf of all people paying thier fine, so the people can be exacuted and rebornagain into the new species of human that we call at this time christians -

christianity is not what you beleive it is who you are -because of what you beleive

[valu777]

look at all the people made in Gods image

[macauley10]

Exactly. Why is the Bible so right on about everything if it did not come from God. You just have to look around to see how great he is and that he does exist. I have prayed for several important things in my life and he has answered several of my prayers. I find that when my prayers are not answered I find out later that I didnt need what I was asking for. Everything happens for a reason... I guess even Obama LOL

[CJCA915]

Prove we are made in God's image, aside from a Bible verse, you can't prove it.

[macauley10]

Yep! Like I said God created Evolution. The proof is you are here to blog with us CJCA915

[CJCA915]

That's not proof, it's assumption, so is there anywhere in the Bible that says God created evolution or set it in motion, surely something like that would be in there, I mean everything else is.

[macauley10]

Back then Science had not created the theory of evolution so I would say no it is not directly addressed in the Bible. The one thing that comes to mind is "There is nothing new under the sun". I guess back then most people were smart enough to know something couldnt be made from something unless God was involved. Just my thoughts for what they are worth...

[CJCA915]

Well, the idea that the big bang is something from nothing, is flawed, because we know that matter and energy are constant, they just change forms, so the big bang could have been the change of matter and energies forms, which can occur on it's own.

Unless every time something changes, like ice to water to vapor is all done by God, I mean it's all a cop out, nothing in those things hints to any kind of supernatural influence.

[CJCA915]

Also, unless you study it in depth, you can't really see it happening, as I said it happens over time, but if you really research and watch, evolution is a slow process, and unless you live for millions and billions of years, it is not observable to the average person, in a lifetime.

[valu777]

well why do you beleive evilootion that you canot see ,, then at the same time dont beleive God who you canot see

[CJCA915]

I have proof that evolution exists and is a real process, and like I said, the average person can't see it, but if you observe evolution, you can see it happening, it's a slow process, that is constant.

[valu777]

r 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

[valu777]

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

[valu777]

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

[maxine2win]

valu777 said blah blah blah

[valu777]

God will judge you on your comment maxine2win

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