Hi, it is very difficult to justify extreme punishment for protest by civil disorder when the real looters in our society proudly boast at press lunches of having made £2Million from the public purse over and above their bribes - for the word salary to be used some meaningful job of work must be done yet we see people like Jeff Alexander looting SEERA for £600K+ Angela Hill looted over £200K from Suffolk and Welsh NHS stole £1Bn from a £5Bn budget to squander - WHO ARE THE TRUE LOOTERS?
That is why I am against multiculturalism and why i am for cultural assimilation. We should let the USA become multicultural and let ethnic nations stay the way they are.
It is not "blacks" it is a culture that rejects norm values. It is around in many cultures with every skin tone. Urban poor have this culture, urban poor are predominately black, so people see this as a black culture issue. I believe the cause is poverty and discrimination that will never be solved. As long as people believe in merit some will have more then others.
@twasbrillig33 LOL a kid from the cloistered little country of the tailless cat has sympathy for a bunch of savage apes kicking in shop windows and stealing what ever they want . Maybe one day when you grow up and get off the island and see how things are in the real world your views will change .
@hanksnow82 Hey asshole, I actually live and grew up in Los Angeles, CA but no matter as i live on this very small planet called PLANET EARTH where there is no room for racism. AND you don't really fucking have any clue about the true nature of reality let alone my life. And cloistered is a pretty impressive word for a racist troll like you Hankkk. The truth is it probably describes your life better than anyone else. Go fuck yourself sideways coward.
@hanksnow82 I actually get the best of both worlds since I was born and raised in America but my mom was raised in England and still has all of her family there...um, were you not around during the Rodney King inspired LA riots? or the civil rights riots? Rioting like this last happened in the UK in the early 80's, America's last riot happened in the mid 90's...of course this could and has happened in the USA...
@TriplPlay2 I actually have the best of many worlds . My mother is English living in Canada and my father is American . I went to school and have lived in all 3 countries .
Ken Livingstone, when Mayor of London was the one who introduced the new taxes in the guise of a permit, to use the roads in London, on top of all your road taxes already being paid.
Amazing how these people come out of the woodwork to sound like they are on our side, until they are back in control, then it all changes.
If society keeps perpetuating 'success' as being the stuff that you can afford to buy and then continues to exclude certain sections of society from consumerist fulfillment, this is what you get!
i love the bbc so impartial, trying insinuate him scoring political gain, hes talkin the truth! the youth are lost and they dont see a future. most young kids ambitions are to be a footballer or rapper or dead by 20
'The government hasn't understood the scale of what these young people are facing...' THE GOVERNMENT DON'T WANT TO KNOW! It's ALL BY DESIGN! Livingstone is not exactly out of touch but surely he must know who and what is really behind the demise of the UK and every other western country including the US and Australia! We are being THREATENED with huge fines if we don't fill out the census forms! Well I for one WON'T BE filling anything out for government criminal scum!
undeniably, poverty and social deprivation contribute to peoples attitude, smash currys or whatever multi million pound conglomerate you like, but these pricks are wrecking their own communities, their own local businesses and normal peoples cars are getting burnt to fuck, average people are shit scared in their homes etc. these gobshites have to live there when its all blown over, where will they buy their hoodies now jjb has gone ? and insurance for houses and cars and business is gonna rocket
If they're rioting over budget cuts and lack of money; don't you think it's a tad counter productive then go out and destroy millions of pounds of public and private property?
He's probably right. The students protested over the tuition fees rising, so it was only a matter of time before the benefit claimants would protest over the vast benefit cuts. It isn't surprising that their version of protesting is much worse than the students either. If your benefits were cut for 6 months (as in you weren't allowed them) and you lost your home and your dignity, what would you have to lose? And that cut could be just because you are actually disabled but denied ESA.
Immediate solution? FUCK THAT! SORT OUT THE PROBLEM AT IT'S CORE! These riots are a disgrace but hopefully it will be a wake-up call and cause some real social change in this country
@The1Flying I think you'll find that's what Mr Livingstone is talking about. What you're talking about it is police crackdown on this. That may be step one, but Mr Livingstone is talking about the longer game plan. How are we going to do it? Give me the next 10 words and I'll shut up right here
The BBC is a stinking marxist cabal which criminally steals money from anyone who happens to own a TV receiver in order to fund their filthy communist propaganda machine, don't pay your TV licence and starve these treasonous cunts out of existence.
@SnoopyChicken But the BBC makes money from you whether you watch it or not simply for having a TV, when you walk into a newsagents you can choose what newspaper to buy based on who owns it etc, Rupert Murdoch does not charge everyone for reading the newspaper of their choice so why is Murdoch more corrupt than the BBC? the BBC needs neutering or an alternative public service broadcaster needs to be set up It's a state funded monopoly!
@9wolfy9 The BBC is why this country has great TV. Having a government funded(although independent from government) broadcasting service means we can get shows we otherwise wouldn't. It means they can create TV/Radio that other channels wouldn't be able to take a punt at for fear of not having enough ratings.
The vast majority of the public understand that and are happy to pay their license fee.
@SnoopyChicken Great talent has emerged through the BBC but despite it not because of it in most cases, and how do you know that most people are happy to pay their licence fee?most people pay their licence fee for fear of being prosecuted if they don't, not because they approve of it, and a few years ago they were forced to remove a public info film about "the consequences of not paying your TV licence' after complaints were upheld about it's threatening and totalitarian tone.
Ken Livingstone you slimey piece of shit,The millionaires in the cabinet made their money before they got into government, How much tax-payers money have you lined your pockets with while gleefully and intentionally doing your best to fuck up the country, HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!
I wish people would stop making excuses for the behaviour of these thugs..They can afford latest mobile phones etc...I can't....I'm a pensioner. ..... They are lucky to be alive, in other coutries they would have been shot....
@scalarintelligence My father owned a Mini/Mart In Compton CA-----Watts, Los Angeles. His parents owned it before him. He lived through the 1966 LA Riots and the 1992 Riots, I was with him at the 1992 Riots. Burning and looting businesses is not a Revolution. ITS Mayhem, and those who are running around doing this care nothing about the ideals of a Democracy. Granted "they" are the result of bad welfare policies, poor educational system, which has taught them to be "opportunists"--cont
@ReDiserio i hope it gets burned down again with him in it this time, even if hes dead already. those businesses are the main tool used to oppress in the exploitation of the poor. yall burned down the black wall street and rebuilt what u wanted in place of it. that what we are gonna do. capitalism has failed. americans and europeans must be treated the way they treat others. they think the world is here to serve them, its time we wake them up! u will serve us!!!
In the USA, I find it is the "Progressive-Liberal" policies which fostered the welfare "State" in the 1960's (Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society") that "experiment's" results are people who are born into a never ending circle of drop outs, unwanted preganancies (more kids you get more money), and on it goes. I think there are "bad" politicians on both sides, this is my experience, this kind of violence is never justified. Mob rule.
@roseipk Don't confuse inexplicable and inexcusable. There ARE lessons to be learnt here. If issues aren't addressed stuff like this will just keep happening.
@SnoopyChicken I guess I have been around a lot longer than you to know the diffrence. There are no excuses for this behaviour.... black ,white or purple with pinks spots we all suffer hardships. Anyway some of these thugs are well educated employed people.... so guess that is where the argument ends.
Holy crap... I don't know if you guys watch BBC News, but I just watched one of the most disgracefully biased interviews I've ever seen from a news organization. The host was interviewing Ken Livingstone. Some of the most loaded, biased questioning I've seen.
The thing is that the Government owe there masters money, the ones who they borrow off and they expect us to fucking pay it back? they bring in immigrants left right and centre, they let the super rich have tax benefits, they are cutting the police force, they are looking at cutting payments for disability, Utility bills gone up,petrol goes up, food goes up, Property is sky high,Cutting this and that. They are allowing chemicals to be sprayed in our skies (CHEM-TRAILS) they feed us GM,s
Stay safe! This man sounds like he's speaking the truth about the entire world. The filthy rich care nothing about any of the rest of us. It's truly sad. It wouldn't surprise me if this started happening all over the world. Everything has been made way too complicated. The truth is, most people just want to live in peace, but peace is not as profitable as war. The Banks back both sides & win either way. It needs to stop.
@piginasack So what are you trying to say that poor people are stupid? I agree the idiots of these riots are very much playing into the hands of the rich,but one thing that Cameron was banging on about saying we're all in this recession together is a joke,while he's holidaying 4 times a year many of the rioters have never left there own towns & citys in there lives.Its a provern fact that the rich are getting richer & the poor are getting poorer(not stupid).
@davyro66 - There's a difference between being poor and being stupid. I understand the problems of poverty, I don't understand how beating up your neighbour helps. Yes, the poor are getting poorer - but the riots are going to make things worse, not better.
A man on your other post called them violent gang bangers. Life is tough at the bottom. He needs to look at the gang bangers that are running things and caused this. They kill thousands including children just to fill their coffers and give them more power. They suppress clean energy so we can't clean up this world. Rothschild has enough money to feed an entire country. They stole from the people. This man speaks the truth.
Ken is a prick.
evantis121 1 month ago
"scoring political points" what a bitch i bet if it were a tory ranting on about feral youth and socialist agitators she shouldn't be saying that
Sleck06 5 months ago
Hi, it is very difficult to justify extreme punishment for protest by civil disorder when the real looters in our society proudly boast at press lunches of having made £2Million from the public purse over and above their bribes - for the word salary to be used some meaningful job of work must be done yet we see people like Jeff Alexander looting SEERA for £600K+ Angela Hill looted over £200K from Suffolk and Welsh NHS stole £1Bn from a £5Bn budget to squander - WHO ARE THE TRUE LOOTERS?
Greg260146 5 months ago
That is why I am against multiculturalism and why i am for cultural assimilation. We should let the USA become multicultural and let ethnic nations stay the way they are.
joedt1 6 months ago
@joedt1 People country hop for a reason. Most "white" countries have better conditions.
SujanTheClaw 6 months ago
It is not "blacks" it is a culture that rejects norm values. It is around in many cultures with every skin tone. Urban poor have this culture, urban poor are predominately black, so people see this as a black culture issue. I believe the cause is poverty and discrimination that will never be solved. As long as people believe in merit some will have more then others.
joedt1 6 months ago
What true britsh likes our country, fuck em
lrroutes118 6 months ago
We shoot looters on site here England should too .
hanksnow82 6 months ago
@hanksnow82 let me guess America? Americans have enough problems to deal with
tsiglos 6 months ago
@tsiglos While i agree America has its problems it doesn't have looters because we shoot them .
hanksnow82 6 months ago
@hanksnow82 yeah that makes sense?!? perhaps that type of thinking is why USA spends more on prisons than on education.
tsiglos 6 months ago
@tsiglos Wait until your nigger population triples to where ours is and you will be spending a lot more on prisons too .
hanksnow82 6 months ago
@hanksnow82 bravo sir bravo. ignorance at it's finest
tsiglos 6 months ago
@tsiglos It's the facts but you can't handle it .
hanksnow82 6 months ago
@hanksnow82 Prick! IF ANYONE should be shot, it is the insensitive uncaring discompassionate unwise fucks like you.
twasbrillig33 6 months ago
@twasbrillig33 LOL a kid from the cloistered little country of the tailless cat has sympathy for a bunch of savage apes kicking in shop windows and stealing what ever they want . Maybe one day when you grow up and get off the island and see how things are in the real world your views will change .
hanksnow82 6 months ago
@hanksnow82 Hey asshole, I actually live and grew up in Los Angeles, CA but no matter as i live on this very small planet called PLANET EARTH where there is no room for racism. AND you don't really fucking have any clue about the true nature of reality let alone my life. And cloistered is a pretty impressive word for a racist troll like you Hankkk. The truth is it probably describes your life better than anyone else. Go fuck yourself sideways coward.
twasbrillig33 6 months ago
@twasbrillig33 Ive lived in LA and ive been to Man and i see you don't know the first thing about fuck all , dick head
hanksnow82 6 months ago
@hanksnow82 I actually get the best of both worlds since I was born and raised in America but my mom was raised in England and still has all of her family there...um, were you not around during the Rodney King inspired LA riots? or the civil rights riots? Rioting like this last happened in the UK in the early 80's, America's last riot happened in the mid 90's...of course this could and has happened in the USA...
TriplPlay2 6 months ago
@TriplPlay2 I actually have the best of many worlds . My mother is English living in Canada and my father is American . I went to school and have lived in all 3 countries .
hanksnow82 6 months ago
Ken Livingstone, when Mayor of London was the one who introduced the new taxes in the guise of a permit, to use the roads in London, on top of all your road taxes already being paid.
Amazing how these people come out of the woodwork to sound like they are on our side, until they are back in control, then it all changes.
mythoughtsalone 6 months ago
He is right! Rich get richer poor get poorer. The problem is the goverment don't listen, so what happens. What you are seeing just now!
cultrules 6 months ago
If society keeps perpetuating 'success' as being the stuff that you can afford to buy and then continues to exclude certain sections of society from consumerist fulfillment, this is what you get!
cocoshako1 6 months ago
i love the bbc so impartial, trying insinuate him scoring political gain, hes talkin the truth! the youth are lost and they dont see a future. most young kids ambitions are to be a footballer or rapper or dead by 20
dorzey100 6 months ago
'The government hasn't understood the scale of what these young people are facing...' THE GOVERNMENT DON'T WANT TO KNOW! It's ALL BY DESIGN! Livingstone is not exactly out of touch but surely he must know who and what is really behind the demise of the UK and every other western country including the US and Australia! We are being THREATENED with huge fines if we don't fill out the census forms! Well I for one WON'T BE filling anything out for government criminal scum!
TruthSeekingElf 6 months ago
@TruthSeekingElf - Totally agree
cultrules 6 months ago
I sense the real violence is coming. Who has got guns?
axis4peace4 6 months ago
Perhaps the agenda is more of a 1984 state. We will see the agenda from what results
axis4peace4 6 months ago
I sense that these these riots are being orchestrated
axis4peace4 6 months ago
undeniably, poverty and social deprivation contribute to peoples attitude, smash currys or whatever multi million pound conglomerate you like, but these pricks are wrecking their own communities, their own local businesses and normal peoples cars are getting burnt to fuck, average people are shit scared in their homes etc. these gobshites have to live there when its all blown over, where will they buy their hoodies now jjb has gone ? and insurance for houses and cars and business is gonna rocket
paranorma1palace 6 months ago
If they're rioting over budget cuts and lack of money; don't you think it's a tad counter productive then go out and destroy millions of pounds of public and private property?
KeithUnderneath 6 months ago
He's probably right. The students protested over the tuition fees rising, so it was only a matter of time before the benefit claimants would protest over the vast benefit cuts. It isn't surprising that their version of protesting is much worse than the students either. If your benefits were cut for 6 months (as in you weren't allowed them) and you lost your home and your dignity, what would you have to lose? And that cut could be just because you are actually disabled but denied ESA.
BlondieGeekable 6 months ago
Immediate solution? FUCK THAT! SORT OUT THE PROBLEM AT IT'S CORE! These riots are a disgrace but hopefully it will be a wake-up call and cause some real social change in this country
The1Flying 6 months ago 2
@The1Flying I think you'll find that's what Mr Livingstone is talking about. What you're talking about it is police crackdown on this. That may be step one, but Mr Livingstone is talking about the longer game plan. How are we going to do it? Give me the next 10 words and I'll shut up right here
TehCheese 6 months ago
How can he answer every question about London by starting with 'I did...I visited...I campaigned'?!! The questions are not asking about YOU Ken!!!
amygower1 6 months ago
The BBC is a stinking marxist cabal which criminally steals money from anyone who happens to own a TV receiver in order to fund their filthy communist propaganda machine, don't pay your TV licence and starve these treasonous cunts out of existence.
9wolfy9 6 months ago
@9wolfy9 You're having a laugh. BBC is politically neutral to the point of ridiculousness. People like you trying to dismantle it make me sick.
It's because of people like you, neutering the BBC that corrupt media moguls like Murdoch have been able to rise to power
SnoopyChicken 6 months ago
@SnoopyChicken But the BBC makes money from you whether you watch it or not simply for having a TV, when you walk into a newsagents you can choose what newspaper to buy based on who owns it etc, Rupert Murdoch does not charge everyone for reading the newspaper of their choice so why is Murdoch more corrupt than the BBC? the BBC needs neutering or an alternative public service broadcaster needs to be set up It's a state funded monopoly!
9wolfy9 6 months ago
@9wolfy9 The BBC is why this country has great TV. Having a government funded(although independent from government) broadcasting service means we can get shows we otherwise wouldn't. It means they can create TV/Radio that other channels wouldn't be able to take a punt at for fear of not having enough ratings.
The vast majority of the public understand that and are happy to pay their license fee.
SnoopyChicken 6 months ago
@SnoopyChicken Great talent has emerged through the BBC but despite it not because of it in most cases, and how do you know that most people are happy to pay their licence fee?most people pay their licence fee for fear of being prosecuted if they don't, not because they approve of it, and a few years ago they were forced to remove a public info film about "the consequences of not paying your TV licence' after complaints were upheld about it's threatening and totalitarian tone.
9wolfy9 6 months ago
Ken Livingstone you slimey piece of shit,The millionaires in the cabinet made their money before they got into government, How much tax-payers money have you lined your pockets with while gleefully and intentionally doing your best to fuck up the country, HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!
9wolfy9 6 months ago
I wish people would stop making excuses for the behaviour of these thugs..They can afford latest mobile phones etc...I can't....I'm a pensioner. ..... They are lucky to be alive, in other coutries they would have been shot....
roseipk 6 months ago 2
@roseipk now they are thugs. noone called the egyptians, or british columbians, or greeks.
scalarintelligence 6 months ago
@scalarintelligence My father owned a Mini/Mart In Compton CA-----Watts, Los Angeles. His parents owned it before him. He lived through the 1966 LA Riots and the 1992 Riots, I was with him at the 1992 Riots. Burning and looting businesses is not a Revolution. ITS Mayhem, and those who are running around doing this care nothing about the ideals of a Democracy. Granted "they" are the result of bad welfare policies, poor educational system, which has taught them to be "opportunists"--cont
ReDiserio 6 months ago
@ReDiserio i hope it gets burned down again with him in it this time, even if hes dead already. those businesses are the main tool used to oppress in the exploitation of the poor. yall burned down the black wall street and rebuilt what u wanted in place of it. that what we are gonna do. capitalism has failed. americans and europeans must be treated the way they treat others. they think the world is here to serve them, its time we wake them up! u will serve us!!!
scalarintelligence 6 months ago
Respond to this video...
In the USA, I find it is the "Progressive-Liberal" policies which fostered the welfare "State" in the 1960's (Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society") that "experiment's" results are people who are born into a never ending circle of drop outs, unwanted preganancies (more kids you get more money), and on it goes. I think there are "bad" politicians on both sides, this is my experience, this kind of violence is never justified. Mob rule.
ReDiserio 6 months ago
@roseipk Don't confuse inexplicable and inexcusable. There ARE lessons to be learnt here. If issues aren't addressed stuff like this will just keep happening.
SnoopyChicken 6 months ago
@SnoopyChicken I guess I have been around a lot longer than you to know the diffrence. There are no excuses for this behaviour.... black ,white or purple with pinks spots we all suffer hardships. Anyway some of these thugs are well educated employed people.... so guess that is where the argument ends.
roseipk 6 months ago
Holy crap... I don't know if you guys watch BBC News, but I just watched one of the most disgracefully biased interviews I've ever seen from a news organization. The host was interviewing Ken Livingstone. Some of the most loaded, biased questioning I've seen.
kainedamo 6 months ago
burn the banks and the bankers
greens2655 6 months ago
He is the only politician that actually has been objective and constructive with the events that we are witnessing.
AfroVibez 6 months ago
Real talk.
Carnuss 6 months ago
@thegroove2000 that makes lots of sense i totally agree with every word here.
philos4r 6 months ago
The thing is that the Government owe there masters money, the ones who they borrow off and they expect us to fucking pay it back? they bring in immigrants left right and centre, they let the super rich have tax benefits, they are cutting the police force, they are looking at cutting payments for disability, Utility bills gone up,petrol goes up, food goes up, Property is sky high,Cutting this and that. They are allowing chemicals to be sprayed in our skies (CHEM-TRAILS) they feed us GM,s
WTF!!
thegroove2000 6 months ago
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thegroove2000 6 months ago
Stay safe! This man sounds like he's speaking the truth about the entire world. The filthy rich care nothing about any of the rest of us. It's truly sad. It wouldn't surprise me if this started happening all over the world. Everything has been made way too complicated. The truth is, most people just want to live in peace, but peace is not as profitable as war. The Banks back both sides & win either way. It needs to stop.
emya098 6 months ago
i know how to fix rioting in london for good,its easy kick out all the pakistani immigrants and the zionist jew bankster thiefs
solkacorot 6 months ago
Kev what's COBRA? Is that when the government spit venom at the people?
1eyednewt 6 months ago
Good title..says it all
StarveTheSystem 6 months ago
bring in banksy to stop this anachy
BANKSYBLUES 6 months ago
What happens when the Tories get into government,the rich get very rich & the poor get very poor & they wonder why people are pissed off.
davyro66 6 months ago 10
@davyro66
Ahhh...the simplistic black and white world of the ignorant fools.
yington 6 months ago
@yington I'd love to hear your enlightened views,it would be rude not too.
davyro66 6 months ago
@davyro66
What's the point in trying to debate with a knuckle-dragger who see's things in such a black and white world.
"The Tories look after the rich!"
"Labour raises taxes!"
It's just The Sun headlines, and the pointless waffle of those who just see things in utter simplicity.
Good luck.
yington 6 months ago
@davyro66 It's cute that you think there's a difference.
UponInfinity 6 months ago
@davyro66 - So they rob and loot from the other poor? Are you confusing poor with stupid? They are playing into the hands of the rich.
piginasack 6 months ago
@piginasack So what are you trying to say that poor people are stupid? I agree the idiots of these riots are very much playing into the hands of the rich,but one thing that Cameron was banging on about saying we're all in this recession together is a joke,while he's holidaying 4 times a year many of the rioters have never left there own towns & citys in there lives.Its a provern fact that the rich are getting richer & the poor are getting poorer(not stupid).
davyro66 6 months ago
@davyro66 100% true and right!!
rudecrudedude1 6 months ago
@davyro66 - There's a difference between being poor and being stupid. I understand the problems of poverty, I don't understand how beating up your neighbour helps. Yes, the poor are getting poorer - but the riots are going to make things worse, not better.
piginasack 6 months ago
A man on your other post called them violent gang bangers. Life is tough at the bottom. He needs to look at the gang bangers that are running things and caused this. They kill thousands including children just to fill their coffers and give them more power. They suppress clean energy so we can't clean up this world. Rothschild has enough money to feed an entire country. They stole from the people. This man speaks the truth.
LadyStonecut 6 months ago 26
Nice 1 good posts thank you.
mackdv1st 6 months ago
hope your safe brother
genzigg386 6 months ago
Yes!
Pandamonia 6 months ago