Tamisium Butane Oil Extractor Basic Video Series, Video 2 - Extracting Oil from Lavender

[localbroadcast]

expensive as fuck!

[cmacleods]

That's a beautiful extraction device you've built, probably try to order one soon. Were you inspired by espresso machines at all?

[kena8308]

ease of use? lol. jes role a white boy and call it a day.

[Steeb666]

Why not use n-hexane instead?



[tamisium]

The major point of using butane is to preserve the volatile oils once extracted with the butane solvent.

When evaporating the solvent away after use you can lose a lot of what is extracted out, if not all of it.

Hexane requires a temp of around 155F to boil it away. Butane requires 32F.

You will be hard pressed to find any oils no matter how volatile that will evaporate at 32 F or even 100F but 155F can guarantee that some will not be present once the extracting solvent is removed.

[Steeb666]

@tamisium Evaporate instead of boil. You don't want an oil extract to boil anyways. Hexane is non-polar and will not extract the chlorophyll. Using nitrogen, you can evaporate 100% of the hexane and leave a pure oil residue.

[tamisium]

@Steeb666

You are correct that the chlorophyl is not going to be dissolved out but it is possible to wash out chlorophyll. Maybe it does not dissolve so well.

When things are mixed together, they can take on different polarities and different boiling points which is why mixing water with acetone will keep acetone from mixing with hexane. Things change during the extraction process depending on the temp, time and force or speed you extract out. As well as the combination of solvents you use.

[tamisium]

@Steeb666

I have lost many extractions to evaporation. I use the word boil loosely. Meaning to create a low pressure area in the same closed area a higher pressure area exist. Evaporating boils without heat by removing the air above the liquid, essentially creating a low pressure area on top of the liquid. Adding Heat is bad and even boiling or evaporating at room temp can have a negative effect. You should elaborate on your use of nitrogen so others can understand the usage.

[tamisium]

@Steeb666

Nitrogen and Butane differ in the fact that butane can be easily recovered and is easier to manage. Both Nitrogen, Hexane, Butane all make great oil solvents but extracting is not the only consideration. CO2 is a fairly good oil solvent but the expense of the equipment and difficulty using takes a backseat.

CO2 shined because it preserved volatile oils/fragrances with its low boiling point. Butane has this same quality is a linear non reactive molecule and far less expensive to use.

[voldotuk]

overpriced overated !

[tamisium]

Lab equipment is expensive not because we charge more but because when building stainless steel tanks that you can make food grade products in, it cost a lot more.

We have to purge all air from the area before we weld it and we have to fill that area with a non corrosive gas such as argon. This is done on the outside and inside of every tank on every weld. And the welds have to be cleaned out, polished and any marks removed. Then the whole system has to be polished.

[tamisium]

Stainless is one of the hardest materials to machine. We cannot buy these tanks off the shelf and make this system. We have to machine each part from a solid bar stock of stainless steel. 10 inches around of solid stainless steel bar stock. And then we have to pay to have it welded and assembled. Forget about the cost to design and test each idea over the years. it cost a lot. We have been told we should charge more after the customer received them. They are of the highest quality and will last.

[EyesShineLikeTHC]

@tamisium cut your cost and learn how to weld, its really not that hard. My grandfather taught me when i was young.

[tamisium]

We need to get away from mass production from a third world country that does not care about our welfare.

We are used to buying products that will last a few years and be replaced. This hurts you and helps the seller.

I am out a future when I build something that will last forever and that is what you get. You will never need to buy another extractor after you get this one.

[localbroadcast]

@tamisium but it's much too expensive.

[degastheunholy]

"You need to lubricate your O ring before you, Get it on!!"

hahaha

[jmurray1106]

what type,size of steel wool do you use in this video? Thanks in advanced, i bought some of super fine professional grade steel wool 0000 but it has small pieces that i don't want to end up in my extract

[tamisium]

It is a matter of preference but once you pack the steel wool in you can get away with 00 grade.

Normally you filter our extracts after you get them out. But you can filter most of not all when you use a filter during the extraction process. The problem with filtering at that time is that you add time if you use too fine of a filter but we have been fortunate to be able to quickly pull the solvent through the plant material even when using fine filters. Although it does take a little longer.

[Wszachta]

The extractor brought too much chlorophyll out into the BHO Extraction. That aside, the machine is somewhat safe, I have personally only heard of 2 o-rings blow out during the extraction process(over 8-10 runs). While i did not personally use the machine, I know that the pure economics of it drove my local dispensary to no longer use this extractor for their BHO. It took too long, even with the 8 oz extractor it would give only 30 or so grams and was taking them 24 hrs to complete.

[tamisium]

They were obviously doing something wrong. I encourage everyone to call our support number if they are not getting what we post in the manual. I have heard of guys doing some pretty strange things like using CO2 or adding extreme pressures. Pressure is not needed for butane because it is a liquid at 25F.

[raceireland]

Lavender, Rose, Bio Fuel Oil all come out looking different. The oil that came out during this room temperature extraction looked exactly the way it should have looked.

Heating, Freezing, Time, Pressure or no pressure all have an effect on the quality and appearance and can now be controlled in full with one machine.

[Wszachta]

The oil that came out of this machine was shit. Blasting to waste gives better results in a quarter of the time.

[tamisium]

You must understand the basic principles of extracting and you may not be aware that oils are not judged on quality by appearance alone.

Although you can exactly duplicate the exact unsafe extraction you mentioned using this machine but you must be receptive to learning how to do that.

In addition, you are not allowed the option to unsafely perform an extraction in some areas and should not consider the output you get an option. Neither should you consider the luxury of avoiding the education.

[tamisium]

You can extract exactly like any extractor known. You do have to use the same temperature, same pressure, same solvent, and same time and of course the same material and coarseness of grind. If you keep the parameters the same, you will get the same exact crap or quality out as any other extractor. It is only as good as you are.

[sebastian0217]

thank you so much. I can't wait to get one!

[bonghaven]

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