CATs will out last cummins in big trucks no problem and make more power doin it dont get me wrong i own 2 cummins pickups and have driven a ton of cummins powered semis and there great motors but CAT is just better
Rolls royce make a V8 diesel that is 17.4 litres rated from 400 bhp to 1200 bhp. Since Kenworth and peterbilts are custom built, why not have a rolls royce engine and be the talk of the truck stop.
CAT is out of the game for one sole reason: crappy aftertreatment design on post 2007 engines. They initially started going downhill in 2004 when they introduced ACERT technology. However, they had the same amount of problems as the first Cummins EGR engines. In 2007, CAT used a 'flamethrower' after the turbos to raise EGTs for regeneration instead of using a DOC. Cummins has it down. The 2010 ISX 550 is a great engine.
@commiesarelame lol goood man great personal info...i drive a 3406 everyday great engine shame cat went down...oh welll loook forward to 1day driving the isx550
@Karlfed1 the 3412 is huge. to limit an engine to accept materials..it makes the 8cyl smarter. there is video on youtube of the 3412 in a rig working oversize...and the driver knows what he is doing. I still like the mack v8 just for being a v8..the 3408 is a bit stronger, it is my favorite.
The cat is a supertrucker buthole fucker motor.lol detroit rapes cat and cummings on fuel mileage the c-15 cat was a joke of a motor.But dont worry cat fans they love truckers so much they stop making motors for them lol.
@Robertsegade 2 things... It Cummins, not Cummings. AND Cat has already stopped making OTR (Over The Road) engines. As for the rest, you're welcome to your opinion just like everyone else. lol
Well I have worked on trucks for 10 years and I know they are all junk when there broke nomatter what they r , I prefer a cummins but cat is my next choice never had a cummins leave me on the side of the road but had a few 60 series do that , and I had a few 3406 blow #4 rod out the side of the block
cat is the best there ever was if you ask me ive worked a a truck salvage yard my whole life and weve saved evry cat part core and complete engine we can the market is in demand and the need for these great powerful and reliable engines will never end CATERPILLAR outhauls all fuck cummins
A 3408 is a great motor, BUT, i prefer the E9 V8 mack for a couple reasons. 1: They get better fuel economy. I've seen guys get 6 mpg out of one hauling logs. 2: You get the Mack Dynatard. In other words, it's Macks version of the jake brake.
@Hotrodx199 Kerby, we had lots of V8 Macks in Australia where I live but when the factory blew them out to 610 HP they had trouble and now they don't make the V8s any more. Just about all the Cat 3408s they bought out here are still going including mine. Also the Dynatard was quite weak compared to a Jake, in my experience anyway. That doesn't mean I don't like Macks because I drove them and I thought they were great and if a V8 Mack came my way at the right price I would probably buy it.
@KWKN I would agree I've got some nice pics of this truck and the superliner with flames comin' out the stacks, the old KW cab-over wasn't a real beauty though wasn't it?, and how about that old purple-ish Marmon i think it was? He had a good go at it too...
Just watched this truck pull last night at the Westmoreland county fair here in southwestern PA, gotta say pull isn't the word as much as yanked... don't know if this video is a little old but this ol' K whopper seemed much,much hotter in person.
Bonus points for the yosimite sam mural on the back of the sleeper and 3408 Cat power, you guys can say what you want about cummins,cats, and detroits but there ain't no doubting this monster!
@MaxWedgeMonster Was there as well, had a great 'yank' on the sled. Nice to hear the big V8 rumble. This truck and the V8 Superliner took the cake. Thanks for bringing it out.
Cat builds engines to outlast, outpull and outrun the competiton which the have done for a long time! I really doesnt matter how loud they are plus if you drive around 600 to 800 miles a day you dont want anything to loud. If it was up to sound the 318 DD would be the greatest motor of all time but thats not the case.
@Pope54x CATERPILLAR USED TO BUILD ENGINES THAT OUTLAST. AFTER THEIR ACERT SERIES THEY WENT NOT SO GOOD. I LOVE OLDER CATERPILLAR ENGINES SUCH AS MECHANICAL 3406, BUT TODAY'S ENGINES ARE JUST AN ELECTRICAL NIGHTMARE, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE E.P.A EMISSIONS STUFF THAT KILLED ALL GOOD DIESELS. AND ONE MORE THING, CALL IT BY ITS COMPLETE NAME-CATERPILLAR-(NOT CAT) BECAUSE IT CAN CREATE EN IDENTITY CRISIS FOR THE BRAND. IT IS RELATED TO A CATERPILLAR OR A CAT??? WORM OR KITTY CAT??
Well I like the fact that MACK V8 E9 can make good horsepower..But I also like CATERPILLAR 3408 engines. Is nice to se a variation of engines on those pulling trucks. Thos BIG CUMMINS engines sound so sweeeet
Seeing is believing...& that 3408 got-er-done!!! Remember the key of the title of this vid..."1.063 horsepower!!!" KT19 650-750 hp tops... I'm a mechanic I've worked on everything...
@Pope54x More to the point, the heads were ill-conceived and would shred the head gaskets constantly. A slight redesign might have made the KT a legend.
That's why locomotives have inlines?...nope they are V's. Build them with the same stroke and they will make the same torque. Mostly the 6's have a longer stroke and rod which is why people think they make more torque. Build them the same and you get get more cylinders in a shorter space with the V.
...BUT Locomotives have also run 2 v on a v block setup (deltic diesel) with opposing pistons which would NEVER work on a truck.... why??? Locomotives can run whatever they want because most locomotives run around 1000 or 1200 RPM top end... not between 5 and 8 like a pulling truck, or 2800 to 3200 TOP in a regualr semi
Even if you were to turn up the rpm on most old school big bore diesels, 2600-2800 is max and only for short periods of time. And opposed piston engines have been used in trucks; look up the Commer Knocker. Two stroke, opposed piston with a blower just like a Detroit, and it sounded like a 6-71 going about its business.
Inline engines make more torque because of the amount of crank degrees that it can translate into work. V engines usually translate less degrees of crank motion into work just because of the way the crank pins have to be configured. But there are too many variables that decide power output, and a V motor can put out as much low end as an inline.
@earsneyes1 any diagrams or sources to back up your claim ?? I really doubt it.
On average, an inline 6 with the same displacement can have more low end torque because above bigger cylinders you can put bigger valves and usually you have a longer stroke too. Crank angles have more to do with dynamic balance of an engine, than with torque.
@RenzeZielman There arn't many good examples in heavy duty situations, but look at the 1 ton truck market. The Fords can tow more than the Dodges, they both displace 6.7l ones a V8, the others an I6
@SteelKahuna 650-750 tops? If all you know how to do is turn up the pump, then yea...there's plenty of guys getting 1,500-2,000hp (and more!) out of a KT19.
i think its how u set that motor up,now a kt6 is a bad motha,but that v8 CAT has got more cubic inch in it,and i have yet seen a kt600 go strong ,between CAT V8,and v8 mack motor i dont think a kt600 can out pull neither,and iam willing to put $500.00 and the HEAD OF DICK AND I AINT IN NO POSITION TO LOSE NIETHER ONE
dude the k19 cummins has a bigger displacement than the v8 cat the cummins is 18.9 litres and the 3408 cat is 18 litres, but you are right it is how you set it up and how the driver drives it, i saw a the grand nationals a few years back and a c16 cat with 4 turbos won 2nd place was a b-model cat with 4 turbos then a v8 mack superliner with 4 tur. and last was the k19 cummins with 4 turbos, i prefer cat myself, but that cummins did sound good....
According to other sources the KT has more cubes...however, this tractor proves everything I already said about the 3408...I'm in no position to lose because I'm a mechanic who has worked on these engines & still work on them. The only drawback I've had with these is never seeing them in the shop except for regular servicing...
CAT is king over here in the states, too...at least with people that have a fucking clue what they are talking about. I run a 3406 in my 71 Pete and would love to get a hold of a 3408.
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its about time for those grizzlers to go to rest. who care about their power at 2 miles per gallon. you don't need hell a lot of brains to do that, but to build a good engine with a good MPG, thats requires some skills. fuck CAT, stupid engine
Well the way I see it Cat has been "King of the Hill" & it's my understanding it still is...
I don't give a rats ass if they never fit a Cat engine in another highway truck ever again...the fact is there is no engine that can step up to the plate except Cat. Everyone I've encountered on YT who has "downed" the Cat 3408 has been an idiot "Mr. know it all" who knows absolutely nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're dreaming bud, I drove a W900 KTA 600, nice truck, 3 trailers @ 120 ton, terrible fuel, camshaft problems, no power below 1500.
Guy I know has a 3408, done over 5,000,000 kms, road train, 1st rebuild @ 2,000,000 kms, still going strong. The harder you work them the better they like it, unlike the K.
Thats not to say the K isnt any good, just the 3408 is better. And don't even start me on the signatures.
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well if this is true why do exporters all over the world want to buy kt's and i have sold many not one would buy any v8 cats kta's dead complety wore out i have sold them for high as $9000 2 australian exporters where here in n.e. ohio 2 years ago and bought every kta they could find i sold them 4 when we loaded them i never knew there was so many k's around 26 in one sea container not one v8 cat these australians did not want any maby going to replace some blowed up
Fact is over here in Australia the Cat 3408 has a very good reputation, legendary in fact, for high hours and reliability and hp.
You may not know it but our trucks on the highway pull the highest weights in the world on a day to day basis, not one-off loads, 400,000 pound loads in 120 deg heat over massive distance.
Cat is king over here, cummins has a bad reputation because of the disastrous run out of the cummins signature engines when they first came out.
@xxxxburp Try 1,400 RPM to the top of the RPM range...3408 The Greater has the
widest RPM range & doesn't run as hot as Cummins do. Here in the Hawaiian Islands any Cat will rarely need her cooling fan...had a 3406B WJAC whose fan came on twice in 2 years in the Summer time pulling 40 tons + net wt. I'd rather use Cummins engine for boat anchors....
You don't know what you're talking about. I have worked with K19s and Cat 3408s in australia in road trains with big weights and 120 deg heat and the cats is what the guys go for. Cummins too unreliable, big trouble. Cats go forever.. Sorry to prick your bubble.
@RNAGENETICS1 Didn't you read my previous comments, son. I said I've driven both K19s and Cat 3408. The K19 is good but the 3408 is better, and that translates into sales in Australia where I live.
@xxxxburp so true lmao....how many cummins do u see on the side of the road with hoods up and mechanics working on em to get em back on the road....haha
i never said it would thats y they make different classes 4 weight, my brother in law has a 76 power wagon he pulls at local fairs, i not talking bad about it nice video,
yeah we had a Komatsu Hi-Lift w/wheels, not tracks, and it was one heluva machine lol.
im more of a Cummins guy. Dad owned 3 L-9000 Ford Tri-Axles one with a 350 Cummins another with a 444 Big Cam and another with a 565 Cummins. he customed out the last one. he ended up sellin all 3. they ran forever though. the one CAT we had was in an Autocar Tri-Axle. it was all right, but it didnt have a lotta power
did that truck have the Tasmanian Devil on the back? i think i saw that truck at Keystone Motor Speedway. He beat the snot outta that thing. dumped the clutch and smoked em off. i think he ran somewhere between 15 and 19 seconds. that son of a gun is fast!
not true the acert is the baddest engine cat ever made but this is the second best dont believe it check out my 1000+ hp kenworth with a acert and a few mods when its done it will have around 1500
Plus I can turn 5,000RPM w/out coming apart... Cat lovers shoukln't be arguing over the best engines on the planet, we need to just bask in the Cat Powered GLORY WIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can think of one that could top this, the 1693 Cat. A TRUE diesel pulling engine. Now I know the 3408 might beat it in HP but in true out right pulling torque the 1693 could pull that sled around town and then some. The truck would give before the 1693 would.
the new D-9's use the 3408, however, the 3408 can be pushed up to 2,000hp & up.
One thing i'm not going to do is ague over the 2 engines. The 1693 PCTA was the 1st 425hp Cat I witnessed kick the 12V-71's ass up Kawaihae Rd. on the Big Island where I'm from...7 1/2 miles uphill... JM Tanaka Construction had 1 in a 351A Pete, I told my Daddy when I grew up I was going to drive a Pete with a Cat engine in it, my 1st was a 359 EXHD logging truck w/a 3408B
i fucking love the good ole 18 liters of joy boy do they have a wonderfull sound specially through the 5x4 tranny phew getting me all worked up thinking about it
A man after my own heart...never had a Cat blow on me. Only a dingalng can blow up a Cat
motor, dusted a Cummins 444 up Likelike Hwy.
w/a 3406B WJAC @ 425hp. he had 4.56:1 in mountain gears in 46's...me high speed 3.73:1 in 38's w/an RTX14615. I was packing 49 Tons on Black Sand, he had 4"minus who was heavier?! Him or me?! Case closed!!! Cat wins!!!!!!!! 1,000,000 to 0...
oh come on if cat can out pull cummins than how comes all the modified truck pullers use them instead and 550 cat or...a 600 cummins? I vote cummins and cummins holds the record for largest engine manufactured in a big rig!! Eat it CAT!!
Bigger isnt always better a V8 has more power thats also why a Duramax will eat a Cummins alive in a pick up a Cat is bad to the bone the only good motor CUMAPART ever made was the N14!
450 is minimum hp. You can get 750 w/a single turbo, 956 w/twin turbos, blueprinted from
2,600-3,600 running twins & quads. Some people are stuck on stupid, the truth of the matter is a stock 3408 will cost you almost $50,000.00 out of the crate.
I don't know where u buy your motors from. But we own IND3408.GreatGenerators that cat puts on the market.We bought a brand new crate motor for less then 30 grand.Now I have a 359Pete that we heavy Haul with.We bored the block 30 over.Put bigger crank and a turbo on each side of the motor.We add dual oil coolers because of the massive turbo's we put on the motor.Rebuilding a modyfied 3408 is around 55 to 60 grand.But on a 10 percent incline that we deal with in canada that is all u want to own.
Do I need to repeat myself, dingaling?! Stock max hp is 750hp w/a single turbo w/around 10,000ft/lbs @ 1,400RPM...it's used as a bulldozer engine, in the 988 loaders, the Cat
i worked the rails for a year i hated it its not a life all you see is trees and rails i fucking hated it but i love trucking been my life for years now my daddy was a trucker for 30 years and loved every min of it and i do to now i have to get my son in the rig next lol hes working on it hahahaha thanks bro
No wonder we hit it off so good, my Daddy drove for Parker Ranch for over 40 years,
& since my brother started school before me,
Daddy made sure I was ever home alone. I was hooked @ the age of 4...now I'm 50, & I still get a jazzed as I did as a kid. All I ever wanted in life was to be in trucking, driving, repairing, modifying, all my welding is centered in & around trucks from doing a glider, to just about any conversion you can think up...if I can't find parts, I make um...
stopped in 1984. A 3408B is capable of over 2,000hp if you got the money, and will out torque the C-18 when pumped up, plus you can turn 4,000RPM without coming apart. Over 30 years working with these engines I've become a Kahuna of Cat Engines.
You need to "read..." 1,063hp next to 600-650hp?! No comparison!!! And the proof is right before your eyes...it's a "work truck" & a puller, 600hp is weak...that's no 550...it's a 3408B DITA pumped up...can't touch this!!!!
It dosent mean jack shit if the Cummins is a inline 6 and the cat is a v8 because its all about displacment and thats what Cummins has more of along with torgue. The only comparison of a cat 3408 and a cummins qsk19 or the older k19 is in the diehard cat fans imigination.
Well, I've driven trucks both with K19s and CAT 3408s (bet not many people can say that!)
The K19 is 1 liter bigger than the 3408, not a lot.
They're both great engines but personally I like the 3408 better, and they've sure got a great V8 sound to them. Never get sick of driving mine, and I've owned it over 10 years.
Dude a I6 1693 Cat would stomp a mud hole in a KTA ass about the only Cat motor a KTA could outpull would be a 3208 but a 3406 A B C and a 3408 3412 or a PC 1693 would kill a CUMAPART!
passed 12V-71's on the Kawaihae hill on the Big Island of Hawaii...71/2 miles uphill...30%grade, 48 tons white coral sand. As for the 3408B DITA, men like me who've worked with them know you can't outrun um. Got 30+ years wrenching them, & they're still my favorite.
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cummins is build to last i have a N-14 cummins stock at 700 hp u use every damm day and has over 1 milloin miles on her and never overhauled my dad had a cat it blow then we put a cummions under the hood for over size loads cummins works alot better his cat had no balls
Wrong!!! Cat is still "King of the Hill," I've followed for nearly all of my 50 years on this planet & the Cat Kahuna in my hometown, there's no Cummins 6 banger that has taken the King of the Hill. Cat still owns the hill!!!!
3408 to me is the best truck engines Cat had till the 3 Tier Emmissions Testing. But f-the 3 Tier I'll run a 3408 if I want to...and I f-ing want to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CATs will out last cummins in big trucks no problem and make more power doin it dont get me wrong i own 2 cummins pickups and have driven a ton of cummins powered semis and there great motors but CAT is just better
bryce3685 9 hours ago
Cummins for a pickup and a CAT for a semi!
WillisFarms80 1 week ago
People always brag on Cats... until they break down and get the bill...
Rather have something that you can actually work on yourself without exotic tools...
wildbill6976 1 month ago
cummins are more reliable than those cats
kta600cummins 1 month ago
cummins are better more reliable
kta600cummins 1 month ago
@kta600cummins 34xx series cats are a very reliable engine. Hell of a lot better than an n14/855
TurboIDI 3 weeks ago
Well the sled driver might as well take a nap.
73f1004x4 1 month ago
both cat and cumminsare great engines, i rly do love both! cummins for light duty trucks and cat for heavy duty!
Marshmallow250f 1 month ago
Imagine the torque on a 1000+HP 3408 CAT!
ComputerTechTV 2 months ago
Rolls royce make a V8 diesel that is 17.4 litres rated from 400 bhp to 1200 bhp. Since Kenworth and peterbilts are custom built, why not have a rolls royce engine and be the talk of the truck stop.
macktheknife888 2 months ago
CAT is out of the game for one sole reason: crappy aftertreatment design on post 2007 engines. They initially started going downhill in 2004 when they introduced ACERT technology. However, they had the same amount of problems as the first Cummins EGR engines. In 2007, CAT used a 'flamethrower' after the turbos to raise EGTs for regeneration instead of using a DOC. Cummins has it down. The 2010 ISX 550 is a great engine.
commiesarelame 3 months ago
@commiesarelame lol goood man great personal info...i drive a 3406 everyday great engine shame cat went down...oh welll loook forward to 1day driving the isx550
cxrcraig3 1 month ago
Watch out the spelling police are here lol.
Robertsegade 4 months ago
what about the cat 3412
Karlfed1 4 months ago
@Karlfed1 the 3412 is huge. to limit an engine to accept materials..it makes the 8cyl smarter. there is video on youtube of the 3412 in a rig working oversize...and the driver knows what he is doing. I still like the mack v8 just for being a v8..the 3408 is a bit stronger, it is my favorite.
boxer3main 2 months ago
The cat is a supertrucker buthole fucker motor.lol detroit rapes cat and cummings on fuel mileage the c-15 cat was a joke of a motor.But dont worry cat fans they love truckers so much they stop making motors for them lol.
Robertsegade 4 months ago
@Robertsegade 2 things... It Cummins, not Cummings. AND Cat has already stopped making OTR (Over The Road) engines. As for the rest, you're welcome to your opinion just like everyone else. lol
Thuber250 4 months ago
@Robertsegade amen
master402bbc 3 months ago
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ShammRockk 5 months ago
A+
strokin2005 6 months ago
niiiice
saradawn6 7 months ago
you know why cat pulled its on road motor dividson . not because emissions but to give the other guys a chance to catch up
MrBrockberg 8 months ago 2
Well I have worked on trucks for 10 years and I know they are all junk when there broke nomatter what they r , I prefer a cummins but cat is my next choice never had a cummins leave me on the side of the road but had a few 60 series do that , and I had a few 3406 blow #4 rod out the side of the block
slimG2082 8 months ago
@slimG2082 I'M sorry to tell you that it was you and your mechanics that let down your "CAT" !!!
i have worked as mechanic 35 yrs and spent 9 years at cat dealer . The 3406 models A,B,C,E all
have a glass jaw on #4,5 and it,s 99% temp related (H.G /L.W/ OR HYDRASTATIC LOCK)!!!!!
So you see the catman say's!!! (COME ON MISTER CUMMINS ) LOL and have good one!!!!
RRMF77 7 months ago
cat is the best there ever was if you ask me ive worked a a truck salvage yard my whole life and weve saved evry cat part core and complete engine we can the market is in demand and the need for these great powerful and reliable engines will never end CATERPILLAR outhauls all fuck cummins
bubub56 8 months ago
dam she sounds like a big jacked up power stroke
MegaSk2009 11 months ago
че за херня?
DINAMIT07RUS 1 year ago
A 3408 is a great motor, BUT, i prefer the E9 V8 mack for a couple reasons. 1: They get better fuel economy. I've seen guys get 6 mpg out of one hauling logs. 2: You get the Mack Dynatard. In other words, it's Macks version of the jake brake.
Hotrodx199 1 year ago
@Hotrodx199 Kerby, we had lots of V8 Macks in Australia where I live but when the factory blew them out to 610 HP they had trouble and now they don't make the V8s any more. Just about all the Cat 3408s they bought out here are still going including mine. Also the Dynatard was quite weak compared to a Jake, in my experience anyway. That doesn't mean I don't like Macks because I drove them and I thought they were great and if a V8 Mack came my way at the right price I would probably buy it.
gm16v149 1 year ago
lol, a cummins can hardly make enough money to pay for the garage bills, haha
hitower9 1 year ago
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THEBUSINESSOFDYING 1 year ago
@KWKN I would agree I've got some nice pics of this truck and the superliner with flames comin' out the stacks, the old KW cab-over wasn't a real beauty though wasn't it?, and how about that old purple-ish Marmon i think it was? He had a good go at it too...
MaxWedgeMonster 1 year ago
Just watched this truck pull last night at the Westmoreland county fair here in southwestern PA, gotta say pull isn't the word as much as yanked... don't know if this video is a little old but this ol' K whopper seemed much,much hotter in person.
Bonus points for the yosimite sam mural on the back of the sleeper and 3408 Cat power, you guys can say what you want about cummins,cats, and detroits but there ain't no doubting this monster!
MaxWedgeMonster 1 year ago
@MaxWedgeMonster Was there as well, had a great 'yank' on the sled. Nice to hear the big V8 rumble. This truck and the V8 Superliner took the cake. Thanks for bringing it out.
KWKN 1 year ago
I still love this vid!!!!! The "Never Late 3408," or should I say: "The Great 3408!!!!!"
SteelKahuna 1 year ago
is that a duramax diesel in there???? sounds like it. lame
seriessixty525 1 year ago
@seriessixty525 Well it sure sounds better than a piece of shit, oil leaking Detroit!
lilbrothertrucker95 1 year ago
@seriessixty525 what the hell are you talkin bout.
15Woodsmen 1 year ago
Cat's are so quiet... Even without turbos. What, do they put baffles in the cylinders?
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
Cat builds engines to outlast, outpull and outrun the competiton which the have done for a long time! I really doesnt matter how loud they are plus if you drive around 600 to 800 miles a day you dont want anything to loud. If it was up to sound the 318 DD would be the greatest motor of all time but thats not the case.
Pope54x 2 years ago
The 12V sounds better then the 8V
kblackav8or 2 years ago
@Pope54x or the 238, it was a screamer.
CBear47 2 years ago
@Pope54x CATERPILLAR USED TO BUILD ENGINES THAT OUTLAST. AFTER THEIR ACERT SERIES THEY WENT NOT SO GOOD. I LOVE OLDER CATERPILLAR ENGINES SUCH AS MECHANICAL 3406, BUT TODAY'S ENGINES ARE JUST AN ELECTRICAL NIGHTMARE, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE E.P.A EMISSIONS STUFF THAT KILLED ALL GOOD DIESELS. AND ONE MORE THING, CALL IT BY ITS COMPLETE NAME-CATERPILLAR-(NOT CAT) BECAUSE IT CAN CREATE EN IDENTITY CRISIS FOR THE BRAND. IT IS RELATED TO A CATERPILLAR OR A CAT??? WORM OR KITTY CAT??
EM6285 1 year ago
@EM6285 no it's (claterpiller not caterpiller !!!! ) LOL !!!
RRMF77 7 months ago
aint nothing like a kitty purrin
FightingIrish1984 2 years ago
the 998 is tough no dought,, but the 3408 RULES........
deere730puller 2 years ago
hell yea... the powerful V8
xmodrock 2 years ago
Well I like the fact that MACK V8 E9 can make good horsepower..But I also like CATERPILLAR 3408 engines. Is nice to se a variation of engines on those pulling trucks. Thos BIG CUMMINS engines sound so sweeeet
EM6285 2 years ago
more cubes who gives a shit, tell that to the guy who has a 330c.i. 500+h.p shelby gt 500
liitleal 2 years ago
See you at THE BUCK!
novicharged306 2 years ago
How the hell do you keep u joints and drive shafts in that thing ?!!
instepfarms 2 years ago
Seeing is believing...& that 3408 got-er-done!!! Remember the key of the title of this vid..."1.063 horsepower!!!" KT19 650-750 hp tops... I'm a mechanic I've worked on everything...
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
I like my cats, but the KT's are capable of Hp in the 1000's just like the 3408's, but an inline will always have more torque than a "V"
snacho8781 2 years ago
KT will also break at the drop of a hat because it has that cursed C on the Motor!
Pope54x 2 years ago
@Pope54x More to the point, the heads were ill-conceived and would shred the head gaskets constantly. A slight redesign might have made the KT a legend.
CBear47 2 years ago
That's why locomotives have inlines?...nope they are V's. Build them with the same stroke and they will make the same torque. Mostly the 6's have a longer stroke and rod which is why people think they make more torque. Build them the same and you get get more cylinders in a shorter space with the V.
kblackav8or 2 years ago
...BUT Locomotives have also run 2 v on a v block setup (deltic diesel) with opposing pistons which would NEVER work on a truck.... why??? Locomotives can run whatever they want because most locomotives run around 1000 or 1200 RPM top end... not between 5 and 8 like a pulling truck, or 2800 to 3200 TOP in a regualr semi
outalinecowboy 2 years ago
@outalinecowboy try 2600 on an old 2-cycle Detroit.
CBear47 2 years ago
Even if you were to turn up the rpm on most old school big bore diesels, 2600-2800 is max and only for short periods of time. And opposed piston engines have been used in trucks; look up the Commer Knocker. Two stroke, opposed piston with a blower just like a Detroit, and it sounded like a 6-71 going about its business.
earsneyes1 1 year ago
Inline engines make more torque because of the amount of crank degrees that it can translate into work. V engines usually translate less degrees of crank motion into work just because of the way the crank pins have to be configured. But there are too many variables that decide power output, and a V motor can put out as much low end as an inline.
earsneyes1 1 year ago
@earsneyes1 any diagrams or sources to back up your claim ?? I really doubt it.
On average, an inline 6 with the same displacement can have more low end torque because above bigger cylinders you can put bigger valves and usually you have a longer stroke too. Crank angles have more to do with dynamic balance of an engine, than with torque.
RenzeZielman 1 year ago
@RenzeZielman There arn't many good examples in heavy duty situations, but look at the 1 ton truck market. The Fords can tow more than the Dodges, they both displace 6.7l ones a V8, the others an I6
orbitofdoom16 1 year ago
@SteelKahuna 650-750 tops? If all you know how to do is turn up the pump, then yea...there's plenty of guys getting 1,500-2,000hp (and more!) out of a KT19.
Kpower600 10 months ago
thats no dick its a flap to cover your pussy
kt's rule 1150cid
SuperTransmission 2 years ago
i think its how u set that motor up,now a kt6 is a bad motha,but that v8 CAT has got more cubic inch in it,and i have yet seen a kt600 go strong ,between CAT V8,and v8 mack motor i dont think a kt600 can out pull neither,and iam willing to put $500.00 and the HEAD OF DICK AND I AINT IN NO POSITION TO LOSE NIETHER ONE
badvalves 2 years ago 3
dude the k19 cummins has a bigger displacement than the v8 cat the cummins is 18.9 litres and the 3408 cat is 18 litres, but you are right it is how you set it up and how the driver drives it, i saw a the grand nationals a few years back and a c16 cat with 4 turbos won 2nd place was a b-model cat with 4 turbos then a v8 mack superliner with 4 tur. and last was the k19 cummins with 4 turbos, i prefer cat myself, but that cummins did sound good....
ipdaily6 2 years ago
According to other sources the KT has more cubes...however, this tractor proves everything I already said about the 3408...I'm in no position to lose because I'm a mechanic who has worked on these engines & still work on them. The only drawback I've had with these is never seeing them in the shop except for regular servicing...
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
CAT is king over here in the states, too...at least with people that have a fucking clue what they are talking about. I run a 3406 in my 71 Pete and would love to get a hold of a 3408.
Asstacular 2 years ago 5
Damn shame CAT isn't make highway engines after 2010. We run internationals and CATs and I really always have prefered the kittys!
mancub61081 2 years ago
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its about time for those grizzlers to go to rest. who care about their power at 2 miles per gallon. you don't need hell a lot of brains to do that, but to build a good engine with a good MPG, thats requires some skills. fuck CAT, stupid engine
bykashka75 2 years ago
Well the way I see it Cat has been "King of the Hill" & it's my understanding it still is...
I don't give a rats ass if they never fit a Cat engine in another highway truck ever again...the fact is there is no engine that can step up to the plate except Cat. Everyone I've encountered on YT who has "downed" the Cat 3408 has been an idiot "Mr. know it all" who knows absolutely nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
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costellos510 2 years ago
You're dreaming bud, I drove a W900 KTA 600, nice truck, 3 trailers @ 120 ton, terrible fuel, camshaft problems, no power below 1500.
Guy I know has a 3408, done over 5,000,000 kms, road train, 1st rebuild @ 2,000,000 kms, still going strong. The harder you work them the better they like it, unlike the K.
Thats not to say the K isnt any good, just the 3408 is better. And don't even start me on the signatures.
xxxxburp 2 years ago 31
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well if this is true why do exporters all over the world want to buy kt's and i have sold many not one would buy any v8 cats kta's dead complety wore out i have sold them for high as $9000 2 australian exporters where here in n.e. ohio 2 years ago and bought every kta they could find i sold them 4 when we loaded them i never knew there was so many k's around 26 in one sea container not one v8 cat these australians did not want any maby going to replace some blowed up
v8 cats
SuperTransmission 2 years ago
Fact is over here in Australia the Cat 3408 has a very good reputation, legendary in fact, for high hours and reliability and hp.
You may not know it but our trucks on the highway pull the highest weights in the world on a day to day basis, not one-off loads, 400,000 pound loads in 120 deg heat over massive distance.
Cat is king over here, cummins has a bad reputation because of the disastrous run out of the cummins signature engines when they first came out.
xxxxburp 2 years ago 12
@xxxxburp Try 1,400 RPM to the top of the RPM range...3408 The Greater has the
widest RPM range & doesn't run as hot as Cummins do. Here in the Hawaiian Islands any Cat will rarely need her cooling fan...had a 3406B WJAC whose fan came on twice in 2 years in the Summer time pulling 40 tons + net wt. I'd rather use Cummins engine for boat anchors....
SteelKahuna 1 year ago
@xxxxburp cant say the same about todays cat motors. the Accert is a horrible piece of garbage if i do say so
MattytheDem 1 year ago
@MattytheDem so was the E model til they worked out the bugs,,,, just sayin
mike198748 10 months ago
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kt's rule 6 1/4 bore 6 1/4 stroke pound for pound they blow v8 cats away go lay down kitty
SuperTransmission 2 years ago
You don't know what you're talking about. I have worked with K19s and Cat 3408s in australia in road trains with big weights and 120 deg heat and the cats is what the guys go for. Cummins too unreliable, big trouble. Cats go forever.. Sorry to prick your bubble.
xxxxburp 2 years ago 35
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better carry a couple of extra heads with you will need them maby a spacer plate or 2 and a box of manifold
studs&gasketswhen your exhaust manifold falls off k19s dont run hot there very easy to keep cool unlike cats i towed many cats
into my shop broke pistions and the rod comes unhooked and saws the engine
in half junk go scratch your ass
SuperTransmission 2 years ago
@xxxxburp about as close as you ever got to working on these engines was throwing the oil filters away. the kta will always beat that 3408 kitten
RNAGENETICS1 1 year ago
@RNAGENETICS1 No ti wont a KTA is unreliable and nothing can touch a 3408 Cat son.
Pope54x 1 year ago 4
@RNAGENETICS1 Didn't you read my previous comments, son. I said I've driven both K19s and Cat 3408. The K19 is good but the 3408 is better, and that translates into sales in Australia where I live.
xxxxburp 1 year ago 5
@xxxxburp I'm A american mech that does cat power and you are exactaly right cat is the best !!!!!
and as we say here!! IF IT ISN'T A CAT IT MUST BE A DOG!!!!!!!! lol!!
RRMF77 10 months ago
@RRMF77 i love cat motors and ''IF IT ISN'T A CAT IT MUST BE A DOG'' is now my favorite motto hahaha thats amazing
ktmmx29 7 months ago
@xxxxburp so true lmao....how many cummins do u see on the side of the road with hoods up and mechanics working on em to get em back on the road....haha
DMDreaper666 8 months ago
@xxxxburp cats cummins and power strokes are all very reliable engines theres alot more on the list to.
weedissafer 3 months ago
i never said it would thats y they make different classes 4 weight, my brother in law has a 76 power wagon he pulls at local fairs, i not talking bad about it nice video,
yjmoneypit 2 years ago
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um there is no weaight on the sleed i can do that with my jeep nice truck let see it under load
yjmoneypit 2 years ago
Yes there is weight in the box.
Weight isnt everything in setting up a pulling sled. Its the gearing and timing of when certain things are activated.
Gearing when the box peaks plays a big role.
And also how many grouser bars and when they come on is what really stops any puller.
LastMinutePuller 2 years ago
i would bet any amount of money your jeep wouldnt move it an inch.
Great vid. amazing amont of power and torque!
musicequalslife008 2 years ago
Thats Tuff !!!!!!
bjacko688 2 years ago
que motor que é perkins ,cummins ou qual outro
32423332 2 years ago
CAT 3408
zookie400 2 years ago
do you drive that on the road or just on the track?
JANIGHTENGALE 2 years ago
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How many V8 Cats r out there pulling compared to the E9 mack V8 thats all I got to say... They dont call em scatterpillars for nothin!
smokinjo79 2 years ago
That guy was sippin his beer while pullin that one.
Nice truck.
bikeitup14 2 years ago
and cam somebody please tell me, is a KT Cummins a good pulling engine? i heard it was
dant387 3 years ago
Yes...it can pull, closest to a Cat as Cummins can get...
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
10-4 thanks fer the come-back
dant387 2 years ago
No prob...KTA 750 is a good stock Cummins w/a lot of low-end torque,
KTA's are used by Komatsu in their
dozers, loaders, etc... Me, I'm a 3408B DITA man...anything Cat.
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
yeah we had a Komatsu Hi-Lift w/wheels, not tracks, and it was one heluva machine lol.
im more of a Cummins guy. Dad owned 3 L-9000 Ford Tri-Axles one with a 350 Cummins another with a 444 Big Cam and another with a 565 Cummins. he customed out the last one. he ended up sellin all 3. they ran forever though. the one CAT we had was in an Autocar Tri-Axle. it was all right, but it didnt have a lotta power
dant387 2 years ago
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'as close to a CAT as Cummins can get'? In a CAT lovers dream, maybe...
Kpower600 2 years ago
Bring the biggest Cummins motors to the Hawaiian Islands & you'll see why this is CAT Country here in the Pacific...
KTA's are a "reasonable faxcimilie..." CAT is where it's @, disagree? Kiss my Royal Hawaiian Ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weldaz1 2 years ago 5
Hey, you big kahuna. I had a KT in a Freightliner cab over many moons ago. How you bin?
TRUCKERMcD 2 years ago
did that truck have the Tasmanian Devil on the back? i think i saw that truck at Keystone Motor Speedway. He beat the snot outta that thing. dumped the clutch and smoked em off. i think he ran somewhere between 15 and 19 seconds. that son of a gun is fast!
dant387 3 years ago
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can aniyone tel me whats the point of this sport
toprcf 3 years ago
The point is to hook onto the sled with a truck,and pull it as far as you can.
I would have thought it was self evident.
rotundrooster 3 years ago 5
The Baddest Engine from Cat of all time, nothing can top this engine...
SteelKahuna 3 years ago 2
not true the acert is the baddest engine cat ever made but this is the second best dont believe it check out my 1000+ hp kenworth with a acert and a few mods when its done it will have around 1500
lizardtaimer 3 years ago
I can pull 2,500hp out of a 3408B DITA
by O-ringing the heads to block, & running twin turbos in parallel/series
(side by side/compressor-compressor),
performance cam, balanced crank/rods/pistons, ATAAC, a boosted injector pump & improved spray pattern...
Plus I can turn 5,000RPM w/out coming apart... Cat lovers shoukln't be arguing over the best engines on the planet, we need to just bask in the Cat Powered GLORY WIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weldaz1 2 years ago 4
Where's the video?
Kpower600 2 years ago
yeah it can run without air filters for years! There just buleltproof:D
detroitPOWER 3 years ago
I can think of one that could top this, the 1693 Cat. A TRUE diesel pulling engine. Now I know the 3408 might beat it in HP but in true out right pulling torque the 1693 could pull that sled around town and then some. The truck would give before the 1693 would.
Pete352Man 3 years ago 2
The 1693 was the 1st engine in the D-9,
the new D-9's use the 3408, however, the 3408 can be pushed up to 2,000hp & up.
One thing i'm not going to do is ague over the 2 engines. The 1693 PCTA was the 1st 425hp Cat I witnessed kick the 12V-71's ass up Kawaihae Rd. on the Big Island where I'm from...7 1/2 miles uphill... JM Tanaka Construction had 1 in a 351A Pete, I told my Daddy when I grew up I was going to drive a Pete with a Cat engine in it, my 1st was a 359 EXHD logging truck w/a 3408B
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
Still my all time favorite pull...shows what the "never late 3408" can do!!!!
Weldaz1 3 years ago
cat power
crazycatpower 3 years ago
Awesome video! A farmer south of town here has a 3408 in his kw and that is with out a doubt the sweetest sounding truck in the county
btjohnson83 3 years ago
How about making a video of it.....we'd like to see it.
gm16v149 3 years ago
That's what I thought about my 1st logging truck...best sounding & best pounding...I blew everything away...even passed cars up Kawaihae Road!!!!!!!
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
I always loved CAT 3408's. To me they sound like old sports car engines. LOTS of balls!!
RDG484 3 years ago
w900a's are my favorite model
ryansmith896 3 years ago
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this video is fake
poppinstickwu 3 years ago
What are you talking about?
Laofse 3 years ago
What the fuck are you on?
1973RoadRunner440 3 years ago
lol
Barnekkid 3 years ago
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that doesnt even make sense.
tman06798 3 years ago
Your brain is fake...this was taken at a Big Rig Pull in front of a crowd of over 1,000 people, you must smoke ice..."fuckin' bubble brain!!!"
Weldaz1 3 years ago
I KNOW THIS TRUCK HOLY HELL HAHAHA
ibzrg120 3 years ago
i fucking love the good ole 18 liters of joy boy do they have a wonderfull sound specially through the 5x4 tranny phew getting me all worked up thinking about it
peterbiltexd 3 years ago
CAT a long time Family Tradition.
Nothing purrs like a CAT.
Twinhit 3 years ago
A man after my own heart...never had a Cat blow on me. Only a dingalng can blow up a Cat
motor, dusted a Cummins 444 up Likelike Hwy.
w/a 3406B WJAC @ 425hp. he had 4.56:1 in mountain gears in 46's...me high speed 3.73:1 in 38's w/an RTX14615. I was packing 49 Tons on Black Sand, he had 4"minus who was heavier?! Him or me?! Case closed!!! Cat wins!!!!!!!! 1,000,000 to 0...
Weldaz1 3 years ago
oh come on if cat can out pull cummins than how comes all the modified truck pullers use them instead and 550 cat or...a 600 cummins? I vote cummins and cummins holds the record for largest engine manufactured in a big rig!! Eat it CAT!!
boyfromthecountry143 3 years ago
Bigger isnt always better a V8 has more power thats also why a Duramax will eat a Cummins alive in a pick up a Cat is bad to the bone the only good motor CUMAPART ever made was the N14!
Pope54x 3 years ago
.......and the K19 !!
gm16v149 3 years ago
Cummins are good motors. Cats are good motors. Detroit are good motors. Enough said.
Hotrodx199 3 years ago 7
the 6 cyl k19 still has more power than the v8 CAT and the k19 was alot better than the n-14
boyfromthecountry143 3 years ago
No it doesnt your a moron the V8 was very underated at 450 HP it was probably around 600 the KTA was probably around 475 they were very overated
Pope54x 3 years ago 2
you guys better listen to this kid if his dad is who i think he is. hes right his dads pulling rig is a fucking power house
kenworth2010 3 years ago 2
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Kpower600 2 years ago
450 is minimum hp. You can get 750 w/a single turbo, 956 w/twin turbos, blueprinted from
2,600-3,600 running twins & quads. Some people are stuck on stupid, the truth of the matter is a stock 3408 will cost you almost $50,000.00 out of the crate.
Weldaz1 3 years ago 3
I don't know where u buy your motors from. But we own IND3408.GreatGenerators that cat puts on the market.We bought a brand new crate motor for less then 30 grand.Now I have a 359Pete that we heavy Haul with.We bored the block 30 over.Put bigger crank and a turbo on each side of the motor.We add dual oil coolers because of the massive turbo's we put on the motor.Rebuilding a modyfied 3408 is around 55 to 60 grand.But on a 10 percent incline that we deal with in canada that is all u want to own.
jrhardin2000 3 years ago
I gotta move to Canada then...I can't be trying to scrape up 3408's that cost as much as a house & lot.
Been thinking about air cooled oil coolers...
Thanx 4 the info.
Weldaz1 3 years ago
Do I need to repeat myself, dingaling?! Stock max hp is 750hp w/a single turbo w/around 10,000ft/lbs @ 1,400RPM...it's used as a bulldozer engine, in the 988 loaders, the Cat
769C rock trucks too...wake up!!!
Weldaz1 3 years ago
sounds sweet bro it does sound kinda like a train in a way lol good vid
trains1235 3 years ago
Yeah, don't know much about trains, except they can't go where we can, we got our B-Trains, then there's you, my Bro. "Trains."
Weldaz1 3 years ago
i worked the rails for a year i hated it its not a life all you see is trees and rails i fucking hated it but i love trucking been my life for years now my daddy was a trucker for 30 years and loved every min of it and i do to now i have to get my son in the rig next lol hes working on it hahahaha thanks bro
trains1235 3 years ago
No wonder we hit it off so good, my Daddy drove for Parker Ranch for over 40 years,
& since my brother started school before me,
Daddy made sure I was ever home alone. I was hooked @ the age of 4...now I'm 50, & I still get a jazzed as I did as a kid. All I ever wanted in life was to be in trucking, driving, repairing, modifying, all my welding is centered in & around trucks from doing a glider, to just about any conversion you can think up...if I can't find parts, I make um...
"ALOHA WIDE!!"
Weldaz1 3 years ago
dude begiisnest motor in a normal truck is a CAT C18
detroitPOWER 3 years ago
CAT never put them in "normal trucks" they made the plans but never put them in trucks and the k19 is still bigger with 1150cubic in. and 19 liters.
boyfromthecountry143 3 years ago 2
You moron they put C18s in road trains in austria stil moron!
Pope54x 3 years ago
My dad has a k19 that we pull and stock is 600hp stock [cummins specs] If u want to see it pull look up kta19
boyfromthecountry143 3 years ago
They put 3408B DITA's in Road Trains as well,
stopped in 1984. A 3408B is capable of over 2,000hp if you got the money, and will out torque the C-18 when pumped up, plus you can turn 4,000RPM without coming apart. Over 30 years working with these engines I've become a Kahuna of Cat Engines.
Weldaz1 3 years ago 2
You need to "read..." 1,063hp next to 600-650hp?! No comparison!!! And the proof is right before your eyes...it's a "work truck" & a puller, 600hp is weak...that's no 550...it's a 3408B DITA pumped up...can't touch this!!!!
Weldaz1 3 years ago 3
It dosent mean jack shit if the Cummins is a inline 6 and the cat is a v8 because its all about displacment and thats what Cummins has more of along with torgue. The only comparison of a cat 3408 and a cummins qsk19 or the older k19 is in the diehard cat fans imigination.
sexyCUMMINStime 3 years ago
Well, I've driven trucks both with K19s and CAT 3408s (bet not many people can say that!)
The K19 is 1 liter bigger than the 3408, not a lot.
They're both great engines but personally I like the 3408 better, and they've sure got a great V8 sound to them. Never get sick of driving mine, and I've owned it over 10 years.
gm16v149 3 years ago 17
Yeah i have to agree. The K19's were not that much bigger and they were both pulling son of a bitches.
Hotrodx199 3 years ago 6
Dude a I6 1693 Cat would stomp a mud hole in a KTA ass about the only Cat motor a KTA could outpull would be a 3208 but a 3406 A B C and a 3408 3412 or a PC 1693 would kill a CUMAPART!
Pope54x 3 years ago
1693's came out of D-9's, and on the road they
passed 12V-71's on the Kawaihae hill on the Big Island of Hawaii...71/2 miles uphill...30%grade, 48 tons white coral sand. As for the 3408B DITA, men like me who've worked with them know you can't outrun um. Got 30+ years wrenching them, & they're still my favorite.
Weldaz1 3 years ago
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cummins is build to last i have a N-14 cummins stock at 700 hp u use every damm day and has over 1 milloin miles on her and never overhauled my dad had a cat it blow then we put a cummions under the hood for over size loads cummins works alot better his cat had no balls
kenworth2010 3 years ago
So would a pumped up 1676..,
Weldaz1 3 years ago
Wrong!!! Cat is still "King of the Hill," I've followed for nearly all of my 50 years on this planet & the Cat Kahuna in my hometown, there's no Cummins 6 banger that has taken the King of the Hill. Cat still owns the hill!!!!
Weldaz1 3 years ago 2
good pull
KILLING THE PLANET loool jammmmm
damonm899 3 years ago
whow, it's pulling like there'd be no tomorrow...
dahuz795 3 years ago
you wanna see one pull hard? check out the video's posted by KTA19.
bgreek 3 years ago
3408 to me is the best truck engines Cat had till the 3 Tier Emmissions Testing. But f-the 3 Tier I'll run a 3408 if I want to...and I f-ing want to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weldaz1 3 years ago
Fuck those KTAS CUMPART Cat all the way
Pope54x 3 years ago
KTA-600's will eat any cat any day of the week.oh by the way,i forgot,Cat is getting out of the business.
PHOOBEAR22 3 years ago
do the letters F.O. mean n e thing to you? and no nothing will out pull a cat. sry but nothing will. a stock cat'll outpull n e other