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  • 140lm/w? So what.. Cree XP-G LEDs give 150lm/w and higher.

  • What whould happend if I approach a neodymium magnet to one of these bulbs?

  • @ikarusnu nobody has the answer?

  • Your vid is a favorite on Copenhagen

  • Can "Plasma lighting" be part of Blacklight Power's heat energy?

    It appears that our next generation power sources are right around the corner except for the fact America's patent office seems unwilling to let patents for things they don't understand.

  • "and can reach temperatures that are equivalent of the surface of the sun."

    ah yes, losing energy as heat instead of light - that sounds like an efficient light bulb - not.

  • @TheRealityofNature

    According to Planck's constant, an obect radiating at 6000K peaks in the visible range and radiades much more visible light than heat. Still hotter obects peak in the ultra violet. Objects around 3000K and below peak in the infa red and radiate more heat than light, which is typical of a standard tungsten filament light bulb.

  • @acoustics101

    Except:

    Plasma is recombination, i.e. it is nonthermal. it has nothing whatsoever to do with BB radiation.

    I sincerely doubt the plasma here is the surface of the sun really - were it so, the bulb would melt. The mistake might be in the "equivalent" brightness temperature, i.e. pretend it's black body emission, even though it's not.

  • Important serious question: is the light such that it can stimulate vitamin d production in the skin?

    Depressed Scandinavians everywhere want to know (fucking dark winters..).

  • so it's almost 2012 and this is the first time ive ever heard of these

  • LEDs still beat this, at much lower wattage and much more light, sure you need more of them but they are cheap.

  • @AishaDracoGryph lol led lighting is the most expensive!

  • Where can I buy this?

  • @BenHutchinson321

    Check out fat-toms.co.uk for the pro 300 lep plasma. Purchased mine from there and having great results. Estimated to last 5-7years at 14 hours a day

  • great!!

  • I want this in mobile phoness!!!

  • How much does it cost to own one of these and how long does it last?

  • Cree is at about 100 Lumens per watt for 900 lumens from one led.

    At just one watt, though, 160 L/w.

    In the lab, they have already achieved 230!

    An old bulb is only like 17...

    Best yet, they are not so ugly as streetlights, however, not as good as the sun either because only certain parts of the whole spectrum are used to make various different kinds of "white". Warm white is less efficient than the cool offered by that most eff of sources. the XML.

    With leds, pick your wavelength!

  • whats the cost and life of this thing?

  • Finally, those street lights look so ghetto and ugly.

  • Low pressure sodium.

    200 lm/W

    Welcome to street lights.

  • so that large lamp is powered by a tiny light bulb?

  • my only two questions are how are you stripping the argon of its electrons to make the plasma, and if it really gets that hot, what substance are you using that won't catch on fire or melt? or is that puck really a ridiculously powerful magnet that can hold the plasma in place, while concealing the heat and preventing the glass from melting. (can a magnet even hold heat in place?) ps. these are real questions, not meant as sarcasm or snide remarks. answers please?

  • lo malo es que los gases que usan estas lamparas son nocivos para el ambiente =(

  • REALLY?! SUNLIGHT?! This is a revolution for indoor growers!!! Weed is gonna be so cheap!!! Imagine growing weed with LED lights, that would be sick wouldn't it? But that can't be done because of the horrible spectrum. THEN THIS HAPPENS! It's fucking twice as efficient as LED, and it got just the right spectrum! It's a dream come true! I am so happy now! WHEN WILL IT BE ON THE MARKET? IS IT ALREADY?! IS IT EVEN REAL?

  • 1:00 - 1:12

    Isn't that a bad thing? Are we going to have to wear sunscreen under streelights now?

  • @Unbeginner Not at all. What he's saying is that the color of the light emitted by the bulb is similar to that of the sun. The fact that we have to wear sunscreen has nothing to do with the color of the sun's light, but because along with light, the sun also emits UV radiation, which is harmful to us.

  • @themaritimeman And a blackbody of 6000 degrees is hot enough to emit some UV light. Do remember that UV radiation is nothing more than light with a shorter wavelength than we can see.

    still... this technology is just brilliant.

  • @themaritimeman

    Oh, I asked because the visible light is just a part of the larger spectrum of electromagnetic radiation. Ultraviolet is as well "light" except it's frequency is too high to be seen by us.

    So I thought if it sends light similar to Sun's light, the UV radiation might be there, too.

  • Hi, why aren't these everywhere now? Where did all the funding go? Effing wars. Stop fighting and invest in science!

  • sooo?? is this technology is out and using?

  • Gay.

  • that is gonna be inserted into our brains

  • @MrSouthphillyitalian That wil give a "bright idea" a whole new meaning.

  • I need one of those so called "christmas lights" in my flashlight.

  • i beleive it is possible to make a laser with this principle but it will be a weak because the principle of any ion laser (i mean in normal currents) - the photons will shoot all around the tube so that almost nothing will remains in the focusing point of the tube and the laser output will be very weakly.

    but what i know - maybe it is possible to make a stronger beam with the appropriate waveguides/magnet modulators/RF electromagent focusing systems throgh all the tube way or something..

  • These lights look like a great indoor garden solution...

    LEDs are fast catching up though :o

  • @diaflux you mustve missed the part where they tell you that that the plasma isalmost as hot as the sun. good luck venting that. regular metal halide bulbs only reach 1300 and the are hard to vent

  • @Renda1984 its not like that inside its hot outside you can touch it and just get second degree burns ;d

  • i want lots of these

  • what is a "puck" puc, puk, where can I get a description of that device?

  • Light pollution?

  • Did he say 6000 kelvin?.......So I assume this will not be safe for domestic use.

  • @auswolf350 the filament in a ordinary light bulb also runs at several thousands of degrees,,

  • @pocketsurfer001 Still 6000 kelvin is 2 to 3 times hotter than a filiment globe. Have you ever tried changing a hot globe? I imagine you would need to be careful with this one or you might lose your fingerprints.

  • @auswolf350 LOL. it's not gonna be hot dude, that would melt the whole thing. The point is that it doesn't let the heat escape. The heat generates the light, get it? But it stays in there, how else you think they can get 140 lumens per watt out of that thing?!

  • ok but, Are they efficient?

  • @nappytedd

    140 Lumens per watt compared to a lightbulbs 15 seems to be saying exactly that?

  • This is fake - everyone should know that; the metal halide lamp is the one on the left and there mediocre attempt at there "plasma" lamp is pathetically dim on the right.

  • @gailgrove Huh?

  • how much heat does it produce? besides.... the light should have a warmer tone around 2800 or 3200 K. Other than that, i am totally sold to it :D

  • watch,dont fish and drive!

  • thanks! amma patent it first! yeaaaaah amma make you my bitch!

  • its 1250$ 

  • dude you could grow weed like a motherfucker with this shit! 140 lumens per watt?!??!?! saaayyyy whaaaaaaatttt?!??!?!?!?!?!?

  • @bschmitty1992 temp issues

  • if u make a plasma laser what hapends ?

  • Can I grow weed with that?

  • @cjellwood You can grow weed with just about any lights.

  • same spectrum as the sun... astronomers are going to be angry about this. They'd prefer it if we all used low pressure sodium vapour lamps because their isolated frequencies can be easily filtered out. A lamp with such a wide spectrum cannot.

  • This would be a great innovation for tomorrow's searchlight, spotlighs or automotive headlights!

  • @matillege your numbers are wrong, the base numbers are what is throwing you, the plasma bulb vs the halyde or what ever it is have two different base numbers so your compairing 95% of one to the other and thats what is throwing you!

  • thats a really huge bulb

  • question,

    led lights put 95% of their energy into loght

    and these "plasma lights" are twice as good what would mean they magicly get 90% power for free O.o

  • I understand the basics like its a lot brighter and more energy efficient than the lights bulbs were accustom to. However it didn't say a price (not even a ballpark price) and it also didn't mention the life expectancy. I'm sorry but if one of these units cost an arm and leg plus you have to swap units more often, then i doubt these will last long on the market. Not saying its a bad idea i just hope it becomes consumer friendly.

  • thats really cool.

  • This type of lighting was killed in the US over concerns by the 802.11people since the lamps operational frequency is on the 2.4ghz range and they were worried if this went into operation that the 'bleed' energy would interfere with 802.11 equipment and make their hardware useless.

  • First time I ever heard that - thanks for the clarification! Variants of these lights have been around for many years though - I think even before those wireless networks. I remember reading about them in the mid 1990's in a Discover magazine. I always assumed they were killed off by the big lighting companies to eliminate competition.

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  • Electric bill will be really expensive!!!!!!!!

  • @SMGUniversalFilms Its the opposite.

  • i can imagine idiots putting that in the headlamps instead of xenon one trying to blind other motorists...

  • ill use it for growing my MJ

  • @doggyballs2 indeed! :D

  • @doggyballs2 I was sent here to learn and report back for that purpose.

  • @doggyballs2 goodluck with that one, dr jane isn't isn't lettuce

  • Sunlight breaks down all known bacteria and viruses know to man, I'm thinking this plasma light might be good for our health and well being.

  • The whole thing about it giving out the same spectrum of light as the sun because of its temperature is not correct. The sun gives out a certain spectrum with dark bands because of the elements contained, not the temperature. Still a cool product. I hope to see them around very soon. Like this if you agree.

  • so its almost 2011 and this is the first time ive ever heard of these.

  • @teamramrod456 high intensity bulbs aka hid work in the same principle. the bulb is filled with a gas and and arc is sent through the gas. its takes about 30,000 volts to create the arc but once started very little voltage is needed to keep it going. the end result is light and heat

  • @teamramrod456 Because they arent safe

  • @teamramrod456 same here

  • Lampara de plasma 140 lumenes X 250 watts = 35.000 lumenes

    Lampara haluro metalico HIT 400 watts = 36.000 lumenes iniciales

    Lo que aparece en el video es mentira ya que una supuesta " lampara de plasma" casi igual o menos que una lampara de haluro metalizada.

  • i wonder what would happen if one broke zomg my grow room turned into hiroshima

  • I've wanted one of these for ages. Yummy full-spectrum blackbody! When can I buy one?

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  • @thelethalmoo you are a dumbass.

  • '

    how about HID

  • FAKE! 

  • @gailgrove Look forward to seeing you die in a car crash.

  • @97575934534 WTF does that have to do with any thing, I am a lighting expert, this is NOT a viable lighting source!

  • @gailgrove why is it not viable? What gas does the bulb have? It is simple glass? What voltage and amperage is used?

  • @johnknoefler thats exactly the information they don't provide, this is the only tiny bit of useless information I can find on this.

  • @gailgrove Then I fail to understand how with a lack of data you can decide that it is not a viable light source. The gas in the inside could easily reach 6000. Even a low voltage welding arc reaches well over 3000 in the puddle and the arc itself is much much hotter. Sorry I don't know how much hotter but certainly orders of magnatude above the relatively low heat of the molten steel puddle.

  • @gailgrove wow a 22 year old lighting "expert". are you still in nappies, moose?

    Do you know how many "experts" have resisted and denied the viability of products we now take for granted? I am a positivist scientist and I say "kiss my ass" you non scientists.

  • Good because I hate these street lamps. They're pinkish light glares and pollutes the sky and give off excessive heat. These lights should also be made to turn off when no cars are present. I don't appreciate having to put up blackout curtains in my own home, because my living room is lit up like a football stadium at night from the street lamps outside. Especially when there aren't any cars around.

  • @MichaelJavert The street lamps are there for safty of people that go home by foot.

  • I read that it uses radio waves like microwaves to excite the gas to make light. I read these lights are very efficient, over 90 percent I think, so they don't waste electricity. I wonder if home units will ever be cheaply available.

  • @trailkeeper it says the light reaches temperatures as hot as the surface of the sun. that would be very dangerous and could badly burn people.

  • @leandror19 It would be a great choice for the ladies trying to get a sun tan indoors.

    Maby they will put some vacuum type seal/glass around the interior glass and that would prevent alot of heat transfer to the outside of the glass. Still, if its an efficient bulb, most of the energy input is converted to light rather than as heat. I'm not an expert on this and few people, I imagine, have ever seen one in real life.

  • @leandror19 as opposed to say a regular incandescent bulb? No one ever gets hurt with that right? And since the inside is gas and has very little mass the instant it breaks there would be only some much cooler glass shards. And we saw the bulb was so very small.

  • i want one :D

  • 10 people are edison's successors...

  • What happens when the bulb gets wet!!??!?! BOOM!

  • @madjimms That happens with most lights....

  • I wonder that if I manage to swallow one while it's glowing, that I could see my inner body from the outside. Something like X-rays or so. Possible? Who knows...

  • the Plasma Capsule itself is Very Reliable....the Bulb itself being Electrodeless can easily go to 100,000 Plus Hours...However as in Most Induction Light Sources the Electronics Responsible for Delievering the Current to the Gasses inside are very Prone to Failing...you could Easily go through 5 or 6 Replacements for the Driving Circuits in the Life of One bulb.

  • Oh, I bet some company like General Electric or Sylvania or something will come along, write this company a big fat check for $800 million or some insane amount of money and it will go into a storage vault like at the end of the 1st Indian Jones movie. We wont ever see this used until 50 or 100 years from now when companies finally release it. But most likely the world will be a post-apocolyptic wasteland by then. So its disappointing to know this will most likely never be given to us.

  • woah 6000 degrees. is that an N-machine or something it seems over efficient to me 6000degrees and 140lum for 250 watts JUST DONT FUCKING ADD UP

  • dang i agree with finalbossofinternet's comment.

  • Use it for lasers!!!

  • So why can't I buy one yet???

  • I use energy saving bulbs, and it's hard geting used to the low light & at the same time a blinding effect that comes of the bulb. I've noticed If you diffuse them they are ok but you'll need more bulbs to light a room. but it's a step in the right direction. kinda!!

  • my dick gives of 345 lumens per watt so its not the most efficiant.

  • Actually high power LEDS have eff. around 120 lm/Watt, so they lie! See, for example, Cree XP series.

    And you could buy it NOW and everythere for about 20$...

  • Actually high power LEDS have eff. around 120 lm/Watt, so they lie! See, for example, Cree XP series

  • Low pressure sodium bulbs can give out 200 lumens per watt so it's still not the most efficient source of light.

  • duuuude why is your belly glowing!?

    i know its cool right?

  • wwooooww, AMAZING!!! il put it in my LCD projetor!!! :D

  • I bet it'll itch our eyes out!!!

  • where can i get one ?

  • Holy balls, this is awesome!

  • it does look like a clitoris

  • hhhhhhmmmmmm..... i wonder what the price would be... 100 ? 200 ? OVER 9000 !?!?

  • @terorvlad

    Last quote I heard was $800 for the housing, and $150 for the bulb.

    These things go down in price when more people use them, so spread the word.

  • @terorvlad argon is inert THE BALLS ARE INERT also

  • @terorvlad The answer is obvious.. IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!

  • @terorvlad

    actually there's a 300 watt version for €1000 or about 1250 dollar...

    but the 300 watt version gives the same light as 600 watt hps..

    grtz

  • @terorvlad obviously you have no electrical experience what so ever

  • @captainofpineapples obiously, you can't recognise a joke when you see it.

  • I'm a certified welder. argon is used as a shield gas for multiple welding processes because it is a noble gas, which means, according to the aufbau principle, that it doesn't want to bond to anything else because its outer electron shell is filled to the max. its used in mig welding, tig welding, and flux core, which, aside from stick welding, are the most popular forms of welding. it is inert and not harmful.

  • Blinding light!

  • oh mai goshhhhh

  • argon bulbe

    radioactive material

    break it in your hand about 15 times

    skin cancer...

  • does argon gas really give you cancer because welders use argon gas while they weld as a protector for the welds arc....

  • There are many gasses that can cause cancer. Radon for instance is a gas that naturaly comes from the earth. Some areas moreso where there is the mineral pitchblende or even ordinary granite.

    Welders are more at risk from X radiation

  • Argon is inert. It's not radioactive, thats funny.

  • aja yea that what i was thinking like with tig an mig

  • Hey if you like welding check out my channel. THIS IS NOT A SPAM!

  • argon is an inert gas it has stable isotope therefore it will not harm you.

  • What gas is this, again?

  • plasma

  • plasma aint a gas but a aggregate phase of gases

    the bulb contains mostly sulfur ..

  • shheventy lumins per watt

  • wow, I want that

  • I bet you could grow some killer weed with that shit

  • the next plasma tv...

  • When are these going to be available? and how much do you think they will they start at?

  • Does this requires any electronics?

  • Im rooting for plasma, LED is such a cold non penetrating light, This is a much more natural light.

  • Check out the warm (AKA soft) white LEDs; they are a lot less harsh.

    I personally don't like lights like this as street lights. It makes it hard for me to sleep. I find metal halides especially harsh.

  • purasuma?

  • boooyaaahhh science mudafuckaaaaaa

  • 6,000 K Sounds like a Nice Light...its certainlly better than that ugly orange High Pressure Sodium most utilities use nowadays.

  • It does sound like an ideal light source. Not only is the color temperature similar to natural daylight, but it has a high color rendering index of 95. It also has a high efficiency of 140 lumens/watt combined with a long life.

    I hate those sodium vapor bulbs. They make everything look like it was illuminated by fire.

  • shh

  • over a year later and I don't see these being used. What's wrong with this picture? There are loads of ideas like this, that could if mass produced, have a massive impact on our energy consumption, which contributes to global warming. They could also be used to heat things.

  • Because other alternatives won out.

  • Do they do them in blue for my corsa?

  • Well, I take it this wouldn't have much of a home or personal usage seeing as how it would melt your eyeballs. Hooray streetlights!

  • I want one as my iphone backlight!

  • when i heard its 6000 kelvin O.O we cant use this

  • the plasma heats up to 6000 kelvin, it doesn't emit that heat (or we would all be dead)

  • yah but if u touch it ur screwed

    they should make one of those touch phones with this!

    the URSCREWED-touch

  • @m19productions true that yo

  • Ceravision & Luxim basically coinvented this technology. One did it "first" in california, the other did it "first" in the uk. Just like the formation of Calculus in Germany and UK @ the same time. The smithsonian uses a similar lite tech using 3m light tubes in the air and space museum. Panasonic & a few others either are or planning to use LIFI as its source of light rather than bulbs or led. Many projector companies like Christies plan to use this system soon. This system is very pro eco.

  • Shit, this is perfect for grow rooms.

  • @finalbossofinternet shut the fuck up no one cares a bout ur gay grow up dont do drugs what ever it is turd....

  • @fishkeeping123 fishkeeping motherfucker, shut the fuck up noone cares that your a religious faggot!

  • @fishkeeping123 you sound like a fucking idiot, get off the internet

  • @finalbossofinternet your name indicates fucking idiot.

  • @UBERKron did you even read what that other guy said before calling me a fucking idiot?

  • false marketing ... the actual products have system efficiencies well below 80lm/w where leds get 100 lm/w (bulb only) since a few years ( so system efficiency will be almost the same with leds or plasma, maybe a bit lower with plasma and most definitely not two times as good) also leds have shown to improve at an exponential rate where the plasma lamps are close to the theoretical optimum

  • exponential rate? It has taken LED researchers/solid state light researchers for ever to make the strides that have only recently made LED light competitive. LED's burn out, often are faulty, dim over time, have poor color for lighting and its light is very angularly concentrated. Led's are very expensive. One electrical storm is all it takes to kill expensive led light systems these are hyper sensitive to RF induction. Power supply spikes are notorious for damaging LED lights.

  • The narrator is absolutely shite. He has a stupid voice and he's not fit for narrating.