Rigoletto 1971: #8 Possente amor mi chiama. Luciano Pavarotti

[clown84700]

Bravo Pavaro !!

[Honken]

Why all the nonsense? There is chest resonance and head/masque resonance, you can't sing in your head or chest, the human voice doesn't have vocal registers. Breaks in modality and changes in timbre yes, but that's it.

A light lyric singer like Kraus has easier high notes than a heavier lirico-spinto like Pavarotti.

[NMEnrique]

@Honken hahaha

[mrluistena]

@Honken I am sorry to say, Luciano was not a lirico-spinto tenor, he was a pure lirico tenor. Kraus was a lirico-leggero tenor but you are right when you say that the high nots for Kraus became easier. Also to mention that Kraus looked after his health and tecnique far more than Luciano. Not mention that Kraus did sing the right repertory throughtout his life, that helps a lot too. Luciano was more to sing comercial operas rathan than serving music. Music served him.

[Honken]

@mrluistena

Listen to any LIVE recording of Pavarotti in his youth (late 60's early 70's) and you'll clearly see that his voice was way larger than your average lirico, not to mention that he had one of the strongest squillos in recorded history.

What do you mean by 'commercial operas'? He sung the same repertoire as any tenor; Verdi, Puccini, Donizetti, Leoncavallo and so on. Saying that he didn't serve music after a 40 year career before selling out is just ignorant and insulting.

[mrluistena]

@Honken Lets talk from the bottom line, you dont even know what was Luciano really vocal register as a tenor.... I needed to say that to you, nor even Kraus´s vocal register. you got them both wrong. They were not what you say. Read again what you class them and read back mine classification. You´ll then begin to learn. On the other hand, you can also go back to the 60´s, 70´s and 80´s and see what was Kraus about. I adore Luciano, that´s a fact but not all Veri´s, Pucccini´s roles were suitable

[Honken]

@mrluistena

You're not making much sense here. I agree that each individual singer has a unique voice; there's nothing to dispute this fact. However, each individual voice can be placed in faches to determine what roles are suited for this particular voice; lyrical baritone, dramatic tenor, coloratura soprano ect.

No, I cannot say that I understand every single inch of Lucianos instrument and neither can anyone but he himself. This doesn't change the fact that he was a ... (continued)

[Honken]

... lyrical tenor borderlining spinto. No, some roles weren't suited for his voice. He took on really heavy dramatico roles which should be out of his repertoire. He did however do them all justice as his voice was big enough to carry over the gigantic orchestration for several decades without lingering; all because of his spinto qualities.

Kraus wasn't a pure leggero. Blake, Florez, Kunde are leggeros. Kraus was a lirico-leggero, hands down.

[ThePavafan]

if it is in mixed voice there wouldn't be any ring and in this high d there are tons of ring more than every note of every singer ever

[ThePavafan]

it is not falsetto

it is chest voice . he sings the high d like he sung the high sharp c

[ThePavafan]

it is not falsetto

[ThePavafan]

it is real voice

[delosreyesgavikanes]

I agreed with you, Pavarotti's is a mixed voice/falsetto but Kraus is pure voice, same as Gedda

[NMEnrique]

@delosreyesgavikanes hahahahahahaha

[TheAdamShowPeriod]

The man's voice was beastly!

Thanks for sharing this one.

[amiciascoltatori]

Provate ad ascoltare prima il "possente amor" di bocelli e poi ad acoltare quello di Pavarotti o Kraus.

Dalle stalle alle stelle!!!!

[followthehatecrewild]

this is by far my favorite rigoletto recording ever, sutherland, pavarotti and milnes?? genius and he pulls off such a sick high d

[Giova00587]

INCREDIBILE!! L'ultima nota è un Re 4° e non è scritta!!! GRANDE Luciano Pavarotti!!!!

[cmorgan22]

I heard this and immediatly purchased the full CD set. Not disappointed! OMG!

[seektheforce]

Hmmm. Wonder if Bjorling ever recorded this aria. Anyone know?

[omvelde]

For reasons unknown to me Björling never sang the cabalettas (Possente amor and O mio rimorso) in Rigoletto and Traviata. A great shame! At least in the live recording of Traviata from 1939 where he is in fantastic voice considering his young age (28).

[JanoFliberreti]

Yup, in fact both Pavarotti and Kraus they've made great Duca's.

But there is a big difference here: Pavarotti use a mixed voice to hit the High D, and Kraus not.

[HMW]

that's cause kraus' voice was a hell of a lot lighter

[InformedListener]

You're absolutely right!

[TheInquisitive4Ever]

What a clueless comment! There is no D5 in chest voice! Duh! Are you kidding me? A tenors passaggio is at F# to G (and very seldom A4 as Pippo diStefano). Anything above that has to be a mix of chest and head voice to produce the high pitches! The amount of mix of the chest and head voice is critical. Kraus' timbre was lighter and had a little higher range. Pava had a better timbre, brighter sound, and much better legato.

[bigus]

indeed. pavarotti's voice just has more balls than kraus and his D is still preferable to krauses tonally imo.

[TheInquisitive4Ever]

Perhaps you're unintentionally referring to falsetto but Pavarotti's D5 exemplified here is not falsetto. It is a full voice D5 which he only used in studio recording as he deemed it not secure enough. His highest secure pitch was C# which was spectacular and far better than that of Kraus'. You really need a clue.

[Gaigaia]

not a chance its mixed voice. its head voice. ^^

[bigus]

actually its not head voice its mixed for sure. and not falsetto. there really is no such thing as head voice, it all comes from the throat, its just highly supported "true" voice. there is only true voice and falsetto period.

[ChrisMagoo99]

@bigus well they call it head voice/chest voice etc. because of resonation and stuff like that, but breaking it up into categories like that tends to confuse people anyway

[TheInquisitive4Ever]

There is no such thing as full voice above the passagio. And if you're referring to falsetto, you're wrong. Pava's D5 is not falsetto. What matters is how well the aria is sung. Kraus sung perfect words. Pavarotti sung perfect legato lines and his pronounciation in the Italian lyric roles was second to none (even as compared to other prominent Italian tenors). You need a serious education!

[bigus]

kraus also uses mixed voice like all tenors have to to some extent, but pavarottis D still has more body than krauses. krauses high notes are all thin and white sound and while he was a great singer his voice lacks anything near the beauty of pavarottis imo. i listen to both at length for different reasons and kraus is still one of the greatest tenors ever to me, but i think pavarotti had the complete package and edges out every other tenor in pretty much every way.

[xjavierss]

Kraus!!!!

[caribolas]

he just ignores half of the notes in the aria.

[31122051]

Meraviglioso ! Sicuramente il miglior duca di Mantova di tutti i tempi. Personalmente ritengo molto valida anche l'interpretazione ( presente qui su YouTube ) di F. Bonisolli. Grazie per il video !

[patrick96321]

Prego!

[PieroXtutti]

capito Il legato?! miiii... che forza!

[Eruption1910]

M°, ci manca molto!! Assolutamente il massimo che si possa avere!

[leadoffeohippus]

Amazing. Pavarotti WAS THE DUKE.

[LifeJuice90]

Definitely nobody does it quite as flawlessly as luciano

[ddzz37]

pavarotti at his best. he shines in this aria.

[TRJH1972]

Pavarotti is truly one of the greatest operatic masters of our generation. His recordings will stand the test of time and this is just further proof.

[dalferr]

Saudades...

[patrick96321]

Babel Fish says that saudades in Portuguese translates to "homesicknesses" in English, but I think I know what you mean! I miss him too.

Obrigado!

[loveluciano1]

luciano was so good and beautiful singing, bravo maestro pavarotti. i love you!

[castorp1981]

This is probably the best recording of this opera ever, and one of the greatest manifests of human voice ; the whole cast is almost surreal.

[alfemv76]

Considero a Pavarotti y esta grabación en particular, el mejor Rigoletto jamás grabado....; fantástico!

[lavoreano]

Yo no, creo que Kraus fué un mejor Duque, aunque definitivamente creo que Pavarotti fué un increíble Duque de Mantua. Fijate nada más como Kraus maneja mucho mejor la dinámica de la cabaletta. Cuestión de gustos, como siempre...

[acitipo]

@alfemv76 Yo estoy de acuerdo contigo el timbre de Pavarotti, ha sido el mas bello de todos los tiempos y lo digo no solo yo, lo escuche a Pippo di Stefano, a Luis Alva, a Corelli, a Placido, la voz de Kraus siempre me sono bastante nasal, y nunca fue bella, aunque no puedo negar que fue un gran tenor. pero cada uno en lo suyo.

[Pavarotti4eva]

thanks for posting this! its great, ive never heard pavarotti singing this so well!

[patrick96321]

Yes, this was recorded by Pavarotti at his peak, about the time he "broke out of the pack" and became an international superstar.

Often, when a clip of Pavarotti's voice is played in news story or documentary, it will be a clip from this studio recording, since it's as good as it gets!

[patrick96321]

by Giuseppe Verdi (libretto by Francesco Maria Piave)

This 1971 studio recording is with Ambrosian Opera Chorus and the London Symphony Chorus, with conductor Richard Bonynge (husband of soprano Joan Sutherland).

Principal cast:

Joan Sutherland, soprano: Gilda

Luciano Pavarotti, tenor: the Duke of Mantua

Sherrill Milnes, baritone: Rigoletto