I think this is essentially what a movement like Christianity is all about, and suffering through...yes. It happens. Human beings craft community around ideas. Tribes now form around ideas moreso than geography or genetics.
Thats an interesting question.Can a collective oganization,formulated and fueled primarally by a narrow set of emotionally charged ideas,contruct an entire ideology from only those ideas.If so is there a trigger and a tipping-point too its growth.
I remember a comment you left on atheistblindchick's video about mind-brain relations, something about the brain on its own being insufficient to explain consciousness, and it got jumped on as though it was espousing some kind of crude dualism. It amazed me that so few got your point even after it had been explained. It seemed obvious to me that of course the brain was not sufficient, in computer terms the brain forms the CPU, but a CPU alone does not a GUI make.
Your metaphor is reasonable, although I am wary of metaphors on this issue as a lot of reductionism has come about because of them. My stance is that minds exist; the brain, much of the rest of the body and a community of other minds are necessary and reductionist understandings (a la scientism) give insufficient explanations. Raymond Tallis is better than Popper on this; particularly see his concise 'Why the Mind is Not a Computer: A Pocket Lexicon of Neuromythology'.
Reducing a complex issue to a simplistic metaphorical comparison is much like pruning a tree in order to place a lightbulb on top and call it a streetlamp.
Fabulous in its clarity--exactly what this discussion needs--and focus.
Precision in thought is an art... and in its practice, you sir, are a gifted devotee.
twohawksfucking 2 years ago
Thank you :)
RowanFortuneWood 2 years ago
I think this is essentially what a movement like Christianity is all about, and suffering through...yes. It happens. Human beings craft community around ideas. Tribes now form around ideas moreso than geography or genetics.
AngloBaptist 2 years ago
Great video... 5*/faved
DavidRandallCurtis 2 years ago
Thanks.
RowanFortuneWood 2 years ago
Thats an interesting question.Can a collective oganization,formulated and fueled primarally by a narrow set of emotionally charged ideas,contruct an entire ideology from only those ideas.If so is there a trigger and a tipping-point too its growth.
Thereminator101 2 years ago 2
I remember a comment you left on atheistblindchick's video about mind-brain relations, something about the brain on its own being insufficient to explain consciousness, and it got jumped on as though it was espousing some kind of crude dualism. It amazed me that so few got your point even after it had been explained. It seemed obvious to me that of course the brain was not sufficient, in computer terms the brain forms the CPU, but a CPU alone does not a GUI make.
WizardJim 2 years ago
Of course, I too may have completely misunderstood what you were talking about ... .
WizardJim 2 years ago
Your metaphor is reasonable, although I am wary of metaphors on this issue as a lot of reductionism has come about because of them. My stance is that minds exist; the brain, much of the rest of the body and a community of other minds are necessary and reductionist understandings (a la scientism) give insufficient explanations. Raymond Tallis is better than Popper on this; particularly see his concise 'Why the Mind is Not a Computer: A Pocket Lexicon of Neuromythology'.
Thanks for commenting :)
RowanFortuneWood 2 years ago
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TheDisexists 2 years ago
Reducing a complex issue to a simplistic metaphorical comparison is much like pruning a tree in order to place a lightbulb on top and call it a streetlamp.
TheDisexists 2 years ago
Haha, fantastic. Self-referencing humour and satire. This is the best comment I have had for a long while.
RowanFortuneWood 2 years ago
Interesting vid.
first comment btw
Angloth 2 years ago
Congrats ;)
RowanFortuneWood 2 years ago