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  • The CZ 527 m is also my favorite bush rifle. Great gun all the way around. I just did a review on it as well on my channel too. Shooting some of that Zombie Max ammo from Hornaday. It shoots great! Blew the heck out of a couple gallons of water as well. Pretty cool. Great video! thanks. Cheers JJ @RealitySurvival

  • i dont reccomend elk hunting with 7.62x39.

  • @ty2569 I've killed an Elk at 200 yards with a 16" .30-30. Dead right there. At 200 yards, x39 hits a lot harder. With Soft Point ammo, it would do just fine. But no, I wouldn't call it an Elk caliber.

  • I'm sure this has been asked, but I'll ask again. What kind of groups are you getting with it? With surplus, non-surplus, hand loads (if any)?

  • @7daedalus7 1 inch on average, 1/2" with good ammo.

  • @MadOgre That is extremely impressive. I just might have to invest in one of these. I like having a semi-auto and a bolt gun of the same caliber. This could be the answer to my 7.62 Soviet bolt gun gap. Thanks again.

  • I never have understood the talk that the 7.62 x39 is an inaccurate round, or that the SKS is an inaccurate rifle.

    My friend owns a really nice condition 1953 Russian SKS, and I own a never issued 1986 Yugo SKS. Both are very accurate. After many tests, we have found PPU and Herters ammo to be the most accurate and reliable. We use the Herters 154g SP and the 123g SP PPU for hunting.

    I'd love to have the CZ527 bolt gun, but I can wish for a longer barrel. But I'd take one in carbine.

  • I have taken 4 sask whittails with one of my sks carbines in 7.62 by 39.. all dropped to the shot including a runner xcept 1 that was a short 100 yd recovery...called crap by many my sks's tickle me with their accurate fire( all mine are Chinese) and open sited. This carbine would be the real deal as my previous experience with CZ rifles is they are capable of target accuracy.. I can only dream of this rifle as handloading for the sks is not an option.. they hate my brass and throw them away.

  • in your opinion would the 527 carbine be a good rifle for a 10 year old boy?

  • @pblum22987 It can be. Mild recoil, hits hard enough to take a deer with the right load. Go for it.

  • nice rifle. i love the 7.62x39 cartridge. where can i buy one in canada??

  • @alzathoth I don't know... but it is worth hunting for one.

  • @alzathoth Frontier Firearms is currently carrying them

  • i have seen a lot and heard a lot about this gun and im thinking i love it, i got some surplus fmj ammo, do you think that would be sutable for whitetail, do they sell sk slugs?

  • Do you ever use surplus FMJ ammo in it?

  • @MisterBorg9 All the time. Shoots it just fine.

  • Would you consider this gun for deer or hog hunting? What would the effective range be?

  • @mst3k4evur Hog and Deer is fine. I think in the video he mentions that you can take them down. The 7.62 is basically a .30 caliber round. The NATO 7.62x51mm is the .308, so you have no worries whether the round is large enough. The 7.62x39 is the same round as the AK-47, so you could take down deer and in that game range at say 400yrds no problem. You can confidently hunt hog and deer with the .223 Rem. So I see no problem with the AK round for medium range and potency. I hope this helped.

  • @MrNosfaratu "The 7.62 is basically a .30 caliber round. The NATO 7.62x51mm is the .308, so you have no worries whether the round is large enough."

    Lol...

  • @ihaterobbie123 What's the lol about?

  • @MrNosfaratu Because that's a bad reason to equate the two rounds as standing on equal terms with reference to hunting suitability. I don't contest the fact that 7.62x39 is OK for taking medium size game, but saying because it's the same caliber as .308 and therefore it's a good hunting cartridge is ridiculous.

  • @ihaterobbie123 It is a perfectly good reason. The round itself(caliber), not the entire cartridge is big enough for hunting larger game. As for the potency, there is a significant difference. Yet the size of the caliber will suffice perfectly. As for the 7.62x39 "potency". It makes it through fairly thick wood either all the way through of just about, depending on the wood. Flesh, of course is not wood. It will take fairly large game down. It is up to the person to determine the effective range

  • @MrNosfaratu Let's go back to what I said and can you please try to read it this time?

    "Because that's a bad reason to equate the two rounds as standing ON EQUAL TERMS with reference to hunting suitability."

    Then you go on to talk about penetration and call it "potency".

    Honestly...do you have a clue what you're talking about? By your logic 10mm is a more effective hunting round than .338 lapua magnum.

  • This is typical of people. They hastily throw themselves into argument. If on occasion are mistaken, they argue semantics. The specific words you used, and how you used them. This and that, here and there.

  • If you use a 7.62x39 at hundreds of yards, the bullet will not reach the target and lose momentum. Which may just injure the animal. Which also depends how far you shot from. Typically people hunt at 100yrds maximum so both cartridges will perform the same job, but on different levels. Comparing the same rounds penetration to itself is a moot point. I gave a simple comparison to whether or not the "caliber" is big enough, not it's potency. Where you just made an assumption I meant penetration.

  • @MrNosfaratu "As for the 7.62x39 "potency". It makes it through fairly thick wood"

    I made an "assumption" based on what you EXPLICITLY said. I made the "assumption" that what you said meant what it actually meant. You introduced the notion of "potency" and what immediately followed was a description of penetration, NOT potency.

    "Comparing the same rounds penetration to itself is a moot point."

    Is English your first language? I can't follow this confused, incoherent argument.

  • See semantics. Instead of just reflecting on the general tone of what was said you take things to its utmost literal core. "Comparing the same rounds penetration to itself is a moot point." That is a valid and coherent argument. It means you cannot compare the same, comparing it to itself. Since you already know we were talking about the .308 there was not reason to mention it. Since the subject has been determined. Comparing the aforementioned "thing" to itself, that is what the phrase means.

  • To properly determine penetration. You have to conduct tests, calculate, compare, etc. Now looking at this, "As for the 7.62x39 "potency. It makes it through fairly thick wood". Meaning it is powerful enough, if it had more power it could potentially make it trough more layers of wood. When comparing penetration value, there is no reason to compare a caliber to itself. Just because it has more powder in a larger casing does not change the calibers penetration value on a target. Just it's potency

  • @MrNosfaratu Why are you assuming I'm comparing calibers here? You were comparing calibers, I was comparing what mattered, the cartridge.

    When a supercharged .22 caliber is good enough for deer, it seems pretty stupid to then say "since 7.62 is .30 caliber it's big enough for deer hunting". If a bullet .22 of an inch can kill a deer, it's pretty obvious caliber DOESN'T MATTER.

    Stop hiding behind words like "penetration value" and "potency". Those things aren't standardised measurements.

  • You were in fact the first one to hang up on those words. Yes, in theory caliber does not matter. Which I agree with you in that aspect. My original comment just suggested to a person whom wanted to know if the AK round is fine for Hog and Deer. It is, the 7.62 is a metric measurement, the .308 is a rounded off measurement of the Imperial system. Still it is the same caliber. Hunting has "suggested" calibers for certain game. So I gave that person an answer, he can hunt easy with a .30 cal.

  • @ihaterobbie123 I would also like to add that I am in no way insisting you are stupid. I just wanted that to be on record. Since sometimes the way you write seems more of a retaliation, than an argument.

  • @MrNosfaratu They are mostly retaliations, because you continuously put words in my mouth and then defeat the strawman argument you just created. I don't need to argue with someone who doesn't engage in the actual debate.

    The issue here is that you concluded, based purely on caliber (or seemingly), that 7.62x39 is suitable for hunting. By that reasoning so would a tokarev.

    And I just realised I only read half of what you posted since only half of it was a reply...hair-tearing imminent.

  • Hair-tearing imminent? You also said seemingly, in perenthasis. You should be sure before you post. It is what you keep telling me. Besides the fact that I have not put words into your mouth. You also admitted earlier that the caliber does not matter, you then proceed to say that I stupidly associate caliber in order to determine its hunting effectiveness. You then give a sarcastic remark about how any 7.62 could do the job. Which if you wanted to, you could hunt with a Tokarev.

  • @ihaterobbie123 Many people have hunted large game with .45 ACP. So, in truth the cartridge does not matter. So if you can hunt with a .308 you can hunt, with a AK round. Yes, there are other factors to be taken into account, yet still based on the caliber it is a valid point. You should also read all of my comments. Otherwise you are not entitled to an opinion of something you know only half of.

  • This is the rifle I want since I have 1800 sks bullets .The Norinco is not very accurate but she always goes bang.1000 of the 7.62 s are hp s.

  • I like you. You pronounce "carbine" the same way I do.

  • A great weapon, I love the CZ 527.

    Why didn't you show the set trigger?

    I gave one to my oldest nephew for his 13th birthday. I shortened the stock, stoned the trigger, set it up for a CW sling and put a Nikon Monarch on it. It is so good I may have to buy one for myself. :-)

  • @Because the Single Set Trigger isn't really all that helpful as the trigger overtravel can ruin groups.

  • Thanks Madogre for the reply to my posting stay in touch and thanks for the video post. Good luck next hunting season and keep that CZ 527 handy. I just finished range testing my new CZ 527 with the Redfield Revolution 2x7 scope and was blown away by the accuracy. What a great hunting and multipurpose range rifle. I can shoot this rifle all day long and actually develope some half decent shooting talent.

  • Try looking at the new Savage Scout RIFLE they now make in 7.62x39mm and 308 with a 20 inch barrel and excellent peep sight. No stores around here stock it you have to special order it which is a hassle but it offers some great accuracy to. Really my CZ 527 but give anything to have the peep sights of the Savage.

  • @Wild1Banana The Savage will have a more accurate barrel, and it has a bolt handle that wont interfere with most scopes on the market like the CZ. That's a huge advantage. The CZ's bolt means you have a narrower selection of optics. Given the choice, I'd order the Savage in a heartbeat.

  • Is the 7.62x39 ammo hard to find? i know it would be in australia...Its hard to find any variety of ammo in Australia, lol

  • @StunnedMutha We have it by the truck load here.

  • @MadOgre Would you use it for hunting?

  • @StunnedMutha Its the same round shot out of the ak-47, AKA, the .308 short. Very eazy round to get!

  • @peacemaker50cal Not in australia it isnt, haha

  • Want so bad.

  • Does the 7.62x39 527 have a chrome lined barrel?

  • @thejmeister88 Nope.

  • Thanks for the Video MadOrge I just bought a CZ 527 identical to yours and cannot wait to take shooting. I could sure hearing from you about your rifle setup scope rings slings etc I just bought mine and would appreciate tips you might have on scope setup.

  • @Wild1Banana I purchased a REDFIELD Revolution 2-7 33mm Scope 67080 for my CZ 527 carbine fits perfectly from optics planet and extra magazines from CZ USA along with picanny rail mount. I wish CZ would offer a peep sight for the 16mm dovetail in lieu of the stock sights. Great lightweight carbine for heavy brush and long hikes in the mountains.

  • does the ak bullet fit in that

  • very nice i hunt with a CZ550 manlicher in 308 and a tikkat3 in 6.5X55 se but this gun is on my wish list

  • 7.62 " times" 39. ! LOL

  • Can you shoot surplus in it?

  • @fatoni698 Yup.

  • @MadOgre how's the action? did you ever had it jammed before? will the gun dead shot a full-size buck at 200 yards? i want one i am researching into it, because the ammo is cheap and looks like a great gun.

  • @ilikesuzuki The gun is great. Consider it similar to a .30-30 in hunting situations, but make sure you use a proper hunting bullet and not military ammo

  • hey anyone know a good gun with attchments for hunting tahts around 1000$?

  • @Nightmarez753951n I'm not sure what you are talking about. What Attachments do you need?

  • @MadOgre i got kinda a bad eye shot so some to help me aim and keep my shots where am pointing them

  • @Nightmarez753951n Ah... Gotcha. A reasonable price rifle... with more money left over for the scope... because that's the most important part. Find a used SAVAGE and put a Nikon Monarch on it.

  • I've wanted one of these for quite a while, just cant afford it yet.

  • madogre,nice gun ,good video,can you help me please,looking for a 270win deer rifle,cant deside cz 550 or tikka t3 hunter whats your views on these rifles any help welcome ,all the best from steve in wales uk

  • @steven2267 I've had both. Right now my choice would be between a Sako A7 or a Browning X-Bolt. Between your too options... I'd lean to the Tikka T3.

  • @steven2267 Pick the one you like - they are both very good. The Tikka will be lighter to carry but the CZ has the half cock feature which I prefer.

  • Safety first! there was a bullet in chamber, he was surprised. but really good rifle, i love bolt action, much accurate.

  • @batka6255 Empty Brass.

  • This 527 carbine has a classic "military" appearance with it's wooden stock of the old days(instead of many of today's black synthetic stocks)and a magazine that sticks out infront of the trigger guard(instead of flush fit.Reminds me of the British Lee Enfield jungle carbine).Firing a true military design and made for combat,7.62mmX39(ballistics is very close to our American classic 30-30 round).

    This is something I would use for urban/sub-urban combat at fire fight ranges.

  • @TheXtro101 It would do well as an Urban Scout rifle. I tagged a coyote at 600 yards with this gun, and shot 1/2" groups with it. It's a seriously amazing rifle.

  • Maybe you can tell me if this would be a good rifle to have since it shares the same ammo as my wasr 10/63 AK47 variant.

  • @Spelunker0211 It's a good rifle, period.

  • i love shooting guns

  • that looks like a really fun gun to shoot.

  • this isn't epic beard man????

  • Nice, should have given us some close up of the rifle.

  • I like this rifle but wish the barrel was longer like 21 or 22 inches. It seems the other cz rifles like the 22 or 223 have a longer barrel.

  • I like this gun alot, I just don't understand why the barrel has to be so short. I mean a CZ 22 or 223 has like a 21 inch barrel. Why does this gun only have an 18.5'' one?

  • "762 times 39"...... ha!!!

  • how far have you rang steel with it, or havent you tried that yet?

  • @headphones222 How far? 620 yards.  Consistently.

  • thats a long way for 7.62x39, especially such a low velocity cartridge, must be a lot of minutes by that time.

  • @headphones222 It takes a moment...

  • I love the reaction you have at 0:32 when a round ejects from the chamber when you cycle the bolt! You should have known it was there and not been surprised. Safety first, that's the perfect example to treat every gun like it's loaded.

  • Not a Round. Empty Brass.

  • None the less, your obvious pause in total surprise was priceless. I'm not trying to dis you here I just think your viewers can learn from it.

  • @nosleraccubond

    stfu gtfo

  • well that certainly proved how accurate they are i own bruno's and if there anything to go by there effing accurate

  • .311.

  • My friend has something like this. I'm not sure exactly what he said it was though. A CZ 558 or something. It's semi-auto and fires the 7.62 x 39. It kicks SOOO much ass. =P

  • That would be the vz. 58, Czechoslovakia's response to the AK47 that most of the rest of the Warsaw pact was using. I've never used one, but I've heard it is more accurate than the AK, and I know it is lighter.

    The 527 is lighter and more accurate, but the vz.58 is still pretty light, especially if you ignore ammo weight, semi-auto, which is especially nice for lefties like me who don't always get along with bolt guns, and holds more ammo. The best solution? Get one of both. And a CZ-75.

  • Wow o.o

    Thanks x)

  • Does this carbine fire Czech military surplus ammo? I have a case of 7.62x39 corrosive, steel-cased ammo and am considering picking up one of these fine carbines.

  • I was thinking of getting a bolt action in 7.62x39 as I love that round. I was thinking of getting a BARS 4-1 though.

  • @esh325 good luck finding one. I was looking for one when I got my CZ 527, but couldn't find anyone who carried them.

  • Yes, they are very difficult to find. I emailed RAA and they said they are to import them in limited numbers later in the year. The reason I want the BARs is because it's the only 7.62x39 bolt action that has iron sights.

  • See the look on his face when he loads the mag and draws the bolt and a round flies out "Ops!!!" Great gun!

  • I put about 400 rounds through it that day. Didn't know I made a face.

  • Nice. I'd like to get a good CZ sometime. I nabbed one of those AIA M10 Enfields in 7.62x39 a while ago before they were banned from importation, and it's pretty nice, awesome that it takes AK mags, too.

  • any idea is the bore size .311 or .308

  • .311

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  • Well... they don't make one in .243... you would have to get a 550 in that.

  • I have one of those also.... What a pleasure to use... Many folks think the 7.62x39mm isnt an accurate cartridge -- It gets a bad rap from the AK / SKS type rifles that commonly use that cartridge -- My CZ-527 is topped off with a Nikon 3-9x40MM and is an excellent critter slayer.... About 200 yards is its outer limit in my opinion... I have taken deer, coyote and many varmints - Nice Gun!

  • Yep, I've one of these rifles and you are absolutely correct, they're beautiful pieces of kit

  • Thinking about picking one of these up. What kind of accuracy do you usually see when shooting off the bench?

  • I'd love to get a nice intermediately chambered rifle, like a 527 LUX, 'cause right now, all I have is a .22LR CZ 452 LUX (l-h) and a Remington 700 in 30-06 (l-h).

  • hey, how loud is that rifle compared to a, say, .243 or .308, or even a .223? I want to use it on roe deer in Romania, but my ears are sensitive to loud noises. Even a loud clap makes my ears ring. What round would you recommend? I want it to be powerful enough to take down deer but quiet enough to be confortable to shoot. Yeah, i'm a pussy.

  • not nearly as loud as a .223, but much louder than a clap.

    What you need is good ear pro. Look at the new plugs from Surefire.

  • hey mate how much would one of these cost?

  • 550 bucks USD.

  • thanks for the reply mate i think i might buy one second hand im in australia and they are 1000+$ here

  • How much are exra clips for that rifle ?

  • like $70

  • Man i love the idea of a bolt action 7.62x39 that is a sweet little carbine.

  • i have the same rifle in the lux model

    it's a very good gun

  • Ah, Ogre, good to see a vid of this little bolt carbine you've talked so much about!

    Damn, I want one.

    Were you using steel-case Russian 7.62x39? Does it beat up the rifle action? Cause being able to use Russian bulk ammo would be one of the chief attractions of that little gem over the .223 version.

  • Wolf HP rounds. Steel case. CZ-USA says not to use steel - but it works great. If you shoot the kind with the varnish - you have to make sure you clean the varnish residue out of the chamber.

    I've got about 2000 rounds through mine with very little issues. However I have noticed the main screw working lose, making the action slip in the stock... Accuracy gets effected. So I have to keep it tight.

    It might go back to CZ-USA for a stock swap.

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