it doesn't matter about the details. You just dont torture. Once you torture you are not the good guys. In WW2 England was bombed every night for years yet German POWs were still not tortured because it is about right and wrong. Cheeney is a disgusting man and must be prosecuted for allowing this.
Bad legal advise does not excuse one for commiting crimes. And, this should seem pretty obvious. Waterboarding torture is hardly a grey or unclear area of law.
Americans don't have the courage to prosecute their own members of the government when they do those kinds of things. But they are going to pay dearly for tolerating criminals in their government to get off scot-free.
Americans’ own government is going to do them what it has been doing to others around the world. When this Country hits rock bottom they are going to in their sorrow wonder how could we have become so low? What did we do to cause us to lose our liberty?
Torture is nothing new. Try getting drugged for months at a time while receiving electroshocks to your brain and listening to repetitive messages until you don't know who you are anymore or even how to use the bathroom. How many of you knew that this is what the US government did to random, innocent people under the MKULTRA program. The USA is an abomination, you are all ignorant sheep because you persecute those who speak the truth.
USA is criticized around the world for Bush and past administrations, but UK, Australia and Canada have no room to talk. UK rounded up 150,000 children, lied to their families that the kids would have a better life, or lie to the kids telling them they were orphaned -- then shipped the kids to Canada and Australia where siblings were split up and the kids faced a new life of abuse, torture and neglect. They did this to CHILDREN!!
Gonzales gave a judgeship to Jay C. Bybee in exchange for writing a recommendation for torture; Bybee was given the judgeship for justifying war crimes! And when he did that, he got the judgeship!
Atty Gen Holder is using Bybees coerced memo as reason why he will not prosecute Bush-Cheney & CIA!
So in the White House, if you want to break the law, just bribe a lawyer to write you a letter saying it is OK!
USA gives tours of the crime scene, but no one is going to be arrested for the crime!
Has anyone of these pro-tortures ever watched Law and Order or any cop movie?Bribe them, befriend them, give them incentives to cooperate, or even put them in isolation cells...but don't freakin' simulate drowning on them a 100 times a month! Not only is torture-derived info unreliable but it's also extra ammunition for terrorist recruitment propaganda
worse, not only is the info useless but you create a devoted enemy for life who can now justify killing children or raping women as retribution for his/her own suffering. And should they get their hands on an American GI no horror will be spared as they return the brutalization visisted upon them. Note that no connection to al qaida and iraq was actually discovered in spite of the enhanced interrogation techniques used on the enemy combatants. And the beat goes on.
suchaNoob, are you a plant meant to make liberals look like idiots? If so, you're doing a great job. You're basing your national security beliefs on lame, cliched tv shows written by liberals in Hollywood? Your screen name suits you. You couldn't have found a more apt description of yourself.
madJedi1, your "mad" name suits you, but you would be beffer off as idiotJedi. I hope our CIA waterboards and does whatever they have to do to get information from this terrorist trash. They should do whatever they have to do, and should not have to make public exactly what they're doing with these high level Al Qaeda terrorists. They could rip off these terrorists' limbs, for all I care, if it means they'd get more information. Are all men in the UK as much of a wuss as you obviously are?
When the soldiers are an enemy of the U.S. they are "terrorist trash". When the soldiers are American they are "our young men and women in uniform". Are all Americans as brainwashed and cold-hearted as you?
Ha, I love that kind of mentality. Typical of brainwashed Americans indoctrinated by the U.S. "education" system.
We've had more terrorist acts than you care to notice in your corner of the world. Torture doesn't work. The terrorists can all disappear once the U.S. state department and CIA decide to not keep them to scare the gullible American public with into submission. This is a strategy Stalin used, why are you people so blind?
Cheney is a worthless coward. Five deferments from the military prove this fact. Arrest and prosecute this piece of shit immediately. If you don't, the International Court of Justice will.
Pro Water Borders... Try it and get back to us. That is... Have it done to you. Your attitude will change. Quickly.
grafikfeat 6 months ago
266 ticking time bombs were stopped just in the last minute, I guess.
US = fascist empire.
trakkaton 1 year ago
it doesn't matter about the details. You just dont torture. Once you torture you are not the good guys. In WW2 England was bombed every night for years yet German POWs were still not tortured because it is about right and wrong. Cheeney is a disgusting man and must be prosecuted for allowing this.
Patrick5009 1 year ago
Bad legal advise does not excuse one for commiting crimes. And, this should seem pretty obvious. Waterboarding torture is hardly a grey or unclear area of law.
Shame on the culprits and the footdraggers!!
crazyzabo 1 year ago
Americans don't have the courage to prosecute their own members of the government when they do those kinds of things. But they are going to pay dearly for tolerating criminals in their government to get off scot-free.
Americans’ own government is going to do them what it has been doing to others around the world. When this Country hits rock bottom they are going to in their sorrow wonder how could we have become so low? What did we do to cause us to lose our liberty?
BazzNewYork 1 year ago
Torture is nothing new. Try getting drugged for months at a time while receiving electroshocks to your brain and listening to repetitive messages until you don't know who you are anymore or even how to use the bathroom. How many of you knew that this is what the US government did to random, innocent people under the MKULTRA program. The USA is an abomination, you are all ignorant sheep because you persecute those who speak the truth.
undeadpresident 2 years ago
USA is criticized around the world for Bush and past administrations, but UK, Australia and Canada have no room to talk. UK rounded up 150,000 children, lied to their families that the kids would have a better life, or lie to the kids telling them they were orphaned -- then shipped the kids to Canada and Australia where siblings were split up and the kids faced a new life of abuse, torture and neglect. They did this to CHILDREN!!
KarmicOmen 2 years ago
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Gonzales gave a judgeship to Jay C. Bybee in exchange for writing a recommendation for torture; Bybee was given the judgeship for justifying war crimes! And when he did that, he got the judgeship!
Atty Gen Holder is using Bybees coerced memo as reason why he will not prosecute Bush-Cheney & CIA!
So in the White House, if you want to break the law, just bribe a lawyer to write you a letter saying it is OK!
USA gives tours of the crime scene, but no one is going to be arrested for the crime!
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
all arguing aside this is still a globalist elite channel... it is a distraction from the REAL crimes being commited
madJedi1 2 years ago
Why did they only waterboard 183 times?
Did they get bored?
Ther should have got out the pliers and blowtorch and got midevil on his ass right from the get go.
crutmauler 2 years ago
LMFAO! Love ya for that!
KarmicOmen 2 years ago
Has anyone of these pro-tortures ever watched Law and Order or any cop movie?Bribe them, befriend them, give them incentives to cooperate, or even put them in isolation cells...but don't freakin' simulate drowning on them a 100 times a month! Not only is torture-derived info unreliable but it's also extra ammunition for terrorist recruitment propaganda
suchAnoob 2 years ago
worse, not only is the info useless but you create a devoted enemy for life who can now justify killing children or raping women as retribution for his/her own suffering. And should they get their hands on an American GI no horror will be spared as they return the brutalization visisted upon them. Note that no connection to al qaida and iraq was actually discovered in spite of the enhanced interrogation techniques used on the enemy combatants. And the beat goes on.
NuBN247 2 years ago
suchaNoob, are you a plant meant to make liberals look like idiots? If so, you're doing a great job. You're basing your national security beliefs on lame, cliched tv shows written by liberals in Hollywood? Your screen name suits you. You couldn't have found a more apt description of yourself.
dlwke2 2 years ago
There is nothing wrong with having torture as an option during the interrogation of enemy combatants. Call it a pro-choice approach.
godlesscapitalist 2 years ago
You sir, are an idiot. Torture doesn't work, so why use it? Go back and watch Fox News you ignorant twat.
grampadeal 2 years ago 9
it obviously CAN work...but ur right...its not good 2 do that 2 people...dont these people worry about KARMA???
madJedi1 2 years ago
madJedi1, your "mad" name suits you, but you would be beffer off as idiotJedi. I hope our CIA waterboards and does whatever they have to do to get information from this terrorist trash. They should do whatever they have to do, and should not have to make public exactly what they're doing with these high level Al Qaeda terrorists. They could rip off these terrorists' limbs, for all I care, if it means they'd get more information. Are all men in the UK as much of a wuss as you obviously are?
dlwke2 2 years ago
@dlwke2
When the soldiers are an enemy of the U.S. they are "terrorist trash". When the soldiers are American they are "our young men and women in uniform". Are all Americans as brainwashed and cold-hearted as you?
caseyspaos 2 years ago
you are a douchebag with less intelligence than an monkey (and i'm insulting the apes here)
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
Disgusting.
How can any civilised society do this? No better than animals.
gajeebant 2 years ago 2
lifeline52002: Your twisted logic is almost as painful to read as your mangled English.
Not only is torture a crime, it simply doesn't work.
Go google that fact; I'm not wasting my precious time teaching the fucking obvious to a retard like you.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
Ha, I love that kind of mentality. Typical of brainwashed Americans indoctrinated by the U.S. "education" system.
We've had more terrorist acts than you care to notice in your corner of the world. Torture doesn't work. The terrorists can all disappear once the U.S. state department and CIA decide to not keep them to scare the gullible American public with into submission. This is a strategy Stalin used, why are you people so blind?
SiroDra 2 years ago
Cheney is a worthless coward. Five deferments from the military prove this fact. Arrest and prosecute this piece of shit immediately. If you don't, the International Court of Justice will.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
Cheney is a sick, evil, twisted husk of a man emotionally detached from all aspects of humanity.
When will Satan finally take back his son?
SiroDra 2 years ago 2