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  • There's only one poll that counts, and it's Voting Day.

    Hillary would have won if Florida and Michigan' votes were counted as is you idiot.

    Obama is a fluke. NOT an opinion. it's fact.

  • Looks like you were wrong!

  • Zennie, I love it when you talk with your hands.

  • Very interesting & good to know..I can tell that Hilary will do ANYTHING to win, and will stop at nothing (even if it's illegal) to be the nominee. She's an evil bitch. It makes you wonder why exactly she wants to be president - because her actions always seem so vindictive. Anyway she wont be the nominee, so there!

    My only regret is that she's made Bill Clinton lose some of his good reputation....

    This country needs CHANGE (change we can believe in)....SI SE PUEDE!!!!

  • I remember shaking my head back then at news of all those polls showing HRC's "inevitability" as the nominee. I had faith in Obama even when he was just one of many in the crowded Dem field. I knew it was not over until the fat lady sang. Well she has sang so go home Hillary. Try to get a life other than politics. LOL!

  • If the Clintons were paid for this wouldn't it show up in their tax returns? Oh yeah, they haven't released last years taxes yet. Is there a connection between the Clintons and the pollsters in Pennsylvania? Follow the money, right!? Maybe Obama needs to set up camp in Pennsylvania and decide this thing once and for all.

  • Who we need to believe? Poll is poll,could be right ,could be wrong. But I don't believe you.

  • 9/11 is not a joke. I want a president whose spiritual advisor did not yell "God D*mn US" five days after 9/11. Children lost one or both parents in those buildings. Elderly parents lost either a son or daughter. Maybe what you say is true but Obama is unelectable now because of the company he keeps. He gave that pastor a slap on the wrist and sent him off. He needs to apologize to the victims of 9/11 for attending services at the TUCC.

  • YAWN. PPL like you will fuck the country over in november. OMG JEREMIA WRIGHT SAID GOD DAMN AMERICA> WHO GIVES A HONEST FUCK. JOHN HAGEE AND PAT ROBERTS SAY ALL KINDS OF shit. John McCain will be president and America will sink.I am going to be singing God Save the QUeen once I graduate because the Canadian dollar is going UP!

  • Sadly, everything you say implies that Clinton will be the next POTUS. The Clintons are too well connected in this crooked little world we live in, and we both know that things aren't going to change any time soon.

  • Hillary Clinton & Eliot Spitzer are currently under investigation for campaign fraud. Supporters must remember the Clintons show their graditude by lies,theft,slander,discharge,j­ail,rape,murder

    researech Clinton Crimes,many more are still locked up in Clinton library.Vote smart.America needs real change like no other time in history.Obama,Gravel,Kucinich,­Edwards,Paul are all better.The Clinton/Bush EVIL EMPIRE must end. Our country deserves better.Clinton's: pro war & are responsible for NAFTA.

  • Polls are polls, maybe she was out in front because of name reconition. But when the voting started it turns out different. They had the exit polls in NH as Obama out in front, and Hillary won, Obama won out in Iowa, explain that.

    Take it from the experts who say don't always believe polls. People are always changing their minds even before they get to the polling place.

  • What I believe is that some people read to much into the polls.

  • Dunno if I believe it, but I enjoyed the video. Keep on investigating

  • you assume that the public is gullible enough to follow a simple poll. Polls are just polls, they aren't fact. This has no bearing on the election.

  • Please stop with all of this. Senator Clinton is an esteemed delegate of the United States as is Senator Obama. You need to give them both respect despite what the candidates do to each other. These polls have no influence what-so-ever and it is trivial.

  • Whoa, didn't know that.

    Thanks!

  • Bill lied under oath to Supreme Court. No integrity. Unfit for White House carbon copy 1990s co-presidency. Did not support her due to Code Pink and her response re: Iraq. Ron Paul? Not since I saw his supporters over at Storm Front. Paul denied knowledge of comments on his newsletters attributed to him. If Storm Front people support him it shows a lot about who he is behind closed doors.

  • I'm not mad at Bill for that, I won't judge Hillary on that, besides the Republicans were after blood during that time. Something differant needs to be accomplished in this nation. Obama!

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  • Zennie, You should be a smokinggunsmith, as your conclusions absolutely track with my own metrics on this point....

    Keep it up!!

  • Zennie, we don't agree on the same candidate. I am a Ron Paul supporter, always have been, always will be. That said, on the democratic side, I agree Obama is not getting a fair shake in the media, he was in my opinion the front runner in 2004. The media want their queen, whether the people do or not. Which is why in my opinion they still continue to prop Clinton up, even though its very clear to me she won't win. Not even if nominated.

    You are a smart man, I enjoy your posts.

  • Texas will go for Obama. I don't care what the polls say. I can't think of one democrat I personally know who likes Clinton. None.

  • Zennie, thanx for the info. Interesting.

  • Wouldn't she benefit more from a 'close call' poll or don't you people in the US vote strategically? If I recall correctly CNN said something about people who didn't dare to say they would vote for Obama in polls and that there also have been a lot of people that didn't actually vote when the time came.

  • What's really funny is that the message is lost on those suckers.

  • To make this a very strong argument, you would need to show other polls that show a large variance with the polls that you are questioning.

  • It's too bad we don't deny the candidates the ability to put adds on TV like they do in England. Then they'd actually have to put things down on paper rather than sound bites.

  • When are we going to demand we NOT be scammed??

    Getting really sick of it now!

  • The early polls did not even list Ron Paul and they used these to say he wasnt polling high ,Americans need to learn the scam and do their own research.

  • I got your point. I was addressing the larger issue; all polls are rigged and are inherently unreliable. Reporting polling results is therefore just as unreliable as the polls results. Anyone who would donate to a campaign based on reported poll results is truly a sucker.

  • Prohibiting polls before an election is just as ignorant as prohibiting speeches before an election. What should be demanded by the public is that pollsters should publish the text of their polls along with their results. The biggest problem with polls is there is no accountability. Nothing provided in polling results can be verified, and their veracity is therefore always called into question. I don't care how corrupt or clean polls are portrayed; they are not reliable indicators of opinion.

  • Donate Ron Paul President's Day money bomb and fight for your liberties before its too late. Dig deep and donate Mon Feb 18th

  • uh. you realize that that money will go to the republican party, who will give it to john mccain.

  • No, I don't think it needs to be outlawed, but I would love to see a return to a somewhat responsible journalism that at least attempts to cover politics as issues and not as horse race.

  • Good vid...not only polls used for invincibility we know that Hillary feels entitled and that we owe her the presidency. Cheating and her ego both need to be stopped.

    Btw, know anything about these 80 NY districts that yielded Barack ZERO votes?

  • I'd imagine that investigating Hillary Clinton's campaign will become more difficult than educating her supporters to these crimes.

    I was banned from dailykos(DOT)com for talking about this. It's because a lot of liberals simply don't want to hear it.

    Remember her run for New York Senator was covered in controversy and it buried by the mainstream media.

  • Lots of liberals are automatically responsive to coming Clinton defend. It's a conditioned response. It's true that some of the rumors about them are crazy and false, but NOT ALL ARE! Where there's smoke, there's fire!

  • March forth on the 4th of March!

    Let the truth be heard.

    The only candidate with integrity...

    The only candidate with common sense...

    The only candidate with fiscal responsibility is Ron Paul.

    A change we can live with.

  • It was rigged because unfortunately, in this country, people like to vote for a winner

  • Ron Paul for President 2008. The rest are bought and paid for by special interest groups. Ron Paul WILL put this country back on track, and back in the hands of the AMERICAN PEOPLE!!! The other candidates use deceptions and polling tactics to CREATE the ILLUSION of popularity. With Ron Paul FREEDOM IS POPULAR!!! Ignore the ILLUSIONS and VOTE for FREEDOM. VOTE for THE DEFENDER OF THE CONSTITUTION RON PAUL.

  • I don't get it. Why would they bother going through all that trouble to create an "aura of inevitability" when all that would end up doing was open themselves up to an inevitable backlash? I don't doubt that most polls in 2007 were pretty damn inaccurate. People just weren't paying as much attention back then. Still, what did the Clinton camp really gain from cementing front-runner status? People root for the underdog. No one likes the front-runner, right?

  • ABSOLUTELY!!!... HILLARY CLINTON wouldn't be winning anything if it wasn't for early polling and it still didn't help her in Iowa but it did help her in California.

  • If those two poller commpines will spend some lsrge smout of money/the clinton donnors to get her to win the whole Thing. I think Omboma would make nice president.

  • Not terribly surprising, and not a bad strategy: "Four out of five Clinton donors would actually vote for her!" Remarkable polling results.

  • Do you really believe that any poll, no matter who conducts it, fairly and accurately represents the voter's opinion? Time after time the reliability of polls has been questioned. Pollsters methods are always questionable. I just stick with Ron Paul. His record is clear, consistent, and reliable. I don't have to rely on polls to tell me what I think. Polls are for people who are lazy and don't know how to think. Now, if you into horse racing, I could use all the help I can get. Any inside tips?

  • All polls are bogus in my opinion. I dont believe the voting is ever counted correctly.

  • Do people actually tell the truth in a poll?

    I would have told them I'm voting for Billary Clitoris, and actually voted for Obama!

    :)

  • Can you please to some re-search on "Obama Robbed" in new york - posted by the NEW YORK POST? thank you.

  • we can ...........

    rudi

  • OKay, even if everything you say is true. You didn't say there was anything illegal about it, or that EVERY early poll last year has Hillary far ahead of everyone else. Including MSNBC the Obama butt-kissing network. So go fishing for some other way to attack her.

  • I think that Clinton DID have the lead over Obama earlier, but probibly not as much as those polls said she was, BUT, they may have helped Obama in this case. It made him an underdog, which is a title that both cadidates have been fighting for, and I think that has help Obama. HOWEVER, that type of information COULD HAVE hurt Obama, so it is a big deal. Just like when the news companies were "CALLING" Florida too early for Gore in the 2000 election, which was discuraged Bush voters from voting

  • Wild!!! What next?

  • "Unofficial Tallies in City Understated Obama Vote"

    Black voters are heavily represented in the 94th Election District in Harlem's 70th Assembly District. Yet according to the unofficial results from the New York Democratic primary last week, not a single vote in the district was cast for Senator Barack Obama.

    By SAM ROBERTS

    Published: February 16, 2008

  • NYT article

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