ok well we know that it is pretty strange that a building would fall like that because of office fires alone. no explanation has been given for that. exept nists report which was just shown to be pretty falacious. the only plausible evidence that has been given for it was the nano thermite. and as the video suggested , they had the oprtunity to plant said nano thermite, AND that oportunity can be linked back to the white house through blood. i dont mean to sound like a truther but thats "odd".
hahaha! i love how this guy says its all coming to a head, it ends now! hahaha no one has or is investigating anything because all of this is a load of crap. its been nearly 2 years since this video. when does it end?
Nice! Thanks for reposting this! Be sure to mirror some of my newer videos going over who had demolition access to the buildings and the connections of the Security companies in the towers before 9/11 as well as NIST connections to SAIC and the subsequent cover-up for the use of nanothermite explosives in the WTC.
@WarCrime911 I still ROFL at your umbrage about ridiculously miniscule details like shadow analysis, or combustible materials (have you ever BEEN in a meeting room, it's usually big wood tables LOL). And there was NO direct violation of NFPA. And the collapse did NOT meet the test of High Order Damage. But because your script sounds so official, to some it actually sounds like you know what you'r talking about. And then you have the nerve to bring up the BBC and other reports, how pathetic.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Why did Dr. Steven Jones circumvent the peer review process by not showing his nanothermite paper to the chief editor and printing it without her approval?
Demolition experts estimated it would take 100 men 6 months to place explosives in WTC 1, 2, & 7. How come no one witnessed any strange construction activity?
How can Arch & Eng for 911 Truth be considered a professional organization when 80% of its members are students? rate up!!
@TheoriginalGrumphy So do you believe the Clinton administration was behind the first trade center bombings in New York? What about the USS Cole? How about all the other consistent terrorist attacks around the world claimed by the same people? Were those done by our government to? Way way to far fetched from reality. Islam demands world conversion, if you study the war verses in the Qu'ran you would know that 911 was consistent with it's indoctrination. Look at Islamic Europe today!
It's not about Clinton, it's about the Elite. The Elite (or the wealthiest people in the world) convene and conspire to carry out events such as these. Clinton, Bush, Obama.. they're irrelevant. They are there only to deceive you into believing we are the good guys, while the Elite are a multi-racial group of billionaires. 9/11 was carried out by them because they hold allegiance only to the group, not to the country. Politics is not for the people anymore, its private interest.
@rashock12 Funny so 9/11 was carried out by the rich, yet the rich took the biggest hit in the stock market. I do agree with you about the rich plotting against us, but it is the liberal rich who are against the conservative rich and the rest of us. The liberal rich want the U.S. to be dissolved and they want a one world government. As far as 9/11, no way, that was the work of Islam for sure, look at the consistency of their work. They like hijacking planes to.
Where is the consistency? I'm pretty sure 9/11 is the only precedented occurrence of a plane flying into a skyscraper. If you look up a list of aircraft hijackings on wikipedia you'll find that the large majority of the hijackings were not people of Islamic faith. You can see, D.B. Cooper (US) Garrett Trapnell (US) Billy Gene Hurst Jr. (US). We don't talk about these though, because we wouldn't condemn our own actions, only others.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since the govt. committed 9/11, why arent truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?
If there was no flight 93, please explain how 95% of the plane debris was recovered?
If there was no flight 77, please explain how 130+ witnesses reported seeing a plane?
@ctcole77 Hmmm.. Ever read Cass Sunstein's paper on Conspiracy Theories about how the Judicial Branch goes hand in hand w/ the Fraud Evidence to qualify and make it credible? Read on the Scott Bigham + Zaccarias Trial Issue w/ the FOIA and the release! 95% was not found. 95%? A few pictures count as 95% of a handful of small debris? CNN only warrants that from RKOwens4 and CNN doesn't bias or get controlled...right. Flight 77 doesn't matter, Straw Man, drones were used on WTC Twin Towers, why
@ctcole77 Not the Pentagon? Missile is just another Straw Man, 130, maybe not gov't related witnesses? Or just a plane-looking Cruise Missile? What terrible conciseness you utilize. Hasty Generalization Fallacy.
Plus, the rich don't care about taking a minor hit. Corporate conglomerates work together to lull us into a false sense of security. They are working for the 'greater good', so a minor setback is essential to their agenda as a whole.
The towers were built to withstand a plane flying into them, in order to bring them down you have to get at the foundation (base columns) of the buildings. In other words, you'd have to blow charges on those base columns, and voila planned demolition.
41 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11: "a Cover-up" "Terribly Flawed," "Laced with Contradictions," "a Joke,"
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3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Why did Dr. Steven Jones circumvent the peer review process by not showing his nanothermite paper to the chief editor and printing it without her approval?
Demolition experts estimated it would take 100 men 6 months to place explosives in WTC 1, 2, & 7. How come no one witnessed any strange construction activity?
How can Arch & Eng for 911 Truth be considered a professional organization when 80% of its members are students?
@ctcole77 well the janitor in the buildings actually did..Also stated there where eksplosions in the cellar prior to the plane hit..But as ussual the goverment just didnt lett these people testefy...Instead they relly on bullshiat like you..And students..Thats good,hat shows where you suckers will end up in history..Cause student all around the world are thought you being mentals...And tehy are darn right
I watched them talk about the concussion ruling out controlled demo on the news. complete bullshit.... as if they could not have used some other type of explosives or used c4 and muffled the concussions in some way.
Bush was on the first plane to hit WTC and parachuted out at the last minute shouting "mission accomplished!". If you look at the film footage you can see his parachute, it says "Don't mess with Texas" on it.
Cheney piloted the other plane that crashed into the WTC. He died and the GOP replaced him with a robot clone.
For real.
That's why that guy got shot hunting, a Cheney-bot shot him.
LLNL: "We have invented a new method of making nanostructured energetic materials, specifically EXPLOSIVES, propellants, and pyrotechnics, using sol-gel checmistry. The ease of this synthetic approach along with the inexpensive, stable, and benign nature of the metal precursors and solvents permit LARGE-SCALE SYNTHESIS to be carried out. This approach can be accomplished using low cost processing methods." emphasis added
ok so let me get this straight - I'm backing up everything I say with quotes straight from the labs that make nano-thermite. Your new "source" is some website that apparently does not mention it at all!! That's not a source!! What exactly is your point? That's it's not well known? I agree with you on that. You certainly don't know much about it.
Your other source AMPTIAC, which you misleadingly tried to quote from, lists SEVERAL advantages of nanoenergetics compared to traditional energetics.
Uh, sorry, Smitty, but NO, you are not quoting the labs.
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories (LLNL) reported the invention of the process, not the making of it in ANY quantities.
My new source is THE national clearing house for Sol-Gel Chemistry, and knows EVERYTHING about it, including who is doing it. The LIST doesn't include LLNL.
Go look yourself.
LLNL was part of the SPUTTERING invention team, and was late in the game for SOL-GEL, which was a photo industry invention.
"you are not quoting the labs" WTF?!? are you fucking serious? so LLN LABS is not a lab? What the fuck is wrong with you?
"the LIST doesn't include LLNL" that just proves that it's not a relevant source for this discussion! Obviously they don't cover EVERY aspect of sol-gel production, which is WIDELY used in MANY industries!!
LLNL has been involved in sol-gel research since 95 (or earlier) and nano-thermite sol gel since 99 (or earlier) so they ARE a very relevant and valid source to use
"I know the Truther site you got it from" Just so you know, it's from llnl. gov - like i said, straight from the labs. I can send you links if you want.
So let's see what we have both established here: nano-thermite IS a real substance, which DID exist years before 9/11. It CAN be produced in large quantities safely and cheaply. It CAN be used in explosives, either as the detonator or the warhead. It is apparently ONLY made by govt labs.
"The sol-gel method is a safe, inexpensive, convenient, and flexible route to the synthesis of these types of nanocomposites"
"In our hands, the wet pyrotechnic nanocomposites cannot be ignited until the drying process is complete. This property should allow the production of a large quantity of the pyrotechnics that can be stored safely for some time and dried shortly before its use." -- LLNL 2000
You cut and paste from Truther websites, and I doubt you have EVER even visited the LLNL. g o v website, otherwise you would know that you can go to an archive of their published papers.
Daniel M. Makowiecki, and his lawsuit are kinda famous, as it applies to MANY federal scientists that retire and / or leave federal research labs to TRY to become millionaires with federal inventions.
that patent is interesting because it's from 1996 and is about nano-explosives. So if you knew about this why did you claim originally that the stuff didn't even exist before 2002??
And the names I mention aren't on there, because this stuff is NOT sol-gel based. So it's interesting but not all that relevant. The red/gray chips do NOT match the description of this stuff. How are those links working out for you?
The FIRST production facility was at Indian Head, SC. and didn't go production until 2002. It functions part time.
Your first link is from 2003, your 2nd link is from 2000, and involves BEAKERS of aerogel, which means amounts so tiny it's ridiculous. Your last link is from 2004.
Now, how does this apply to 100 TONS of nano thermite at the WTC in 2001 again?
wow, I'm glad you took the time to read the dates of the papers. Maybe next time you'll make it to some of the words and pictures.
from your very first comment here, you were claiming things which are not true and I have consistently shown them to be false with SOURCES! You have yet to source ANY of your claims
Do you really think they would publicly document the production of the materials used to demolish the WTC?? NO!! But i HAVE proven it to be possible, and it was FOUND IN THE DUST!!
I noticed you denied NOTHING about what I posted, since it's on the record. 2. Have you ever READ the Truther lab report? First, the 2004 sources for the dust. 1. Plastic bag in dirty laundry pile. 2. Brushed off a bridge. 3. Peanut Butter Jar. That's NOT a joke. The Truther Lab Report pointed to on Truther Websites is NEVER quoted. Wanna know why? Because it doesn't claim thermite, it claims aluminum oxide and iron oxide, the 3rd and 4th most common elements on earth. .
"The Truther Lab Report pointed to on Truther Websites is NEVER quoted" disgustingly derogatory remarks aside, what the fuck are you talking about?
And you haven't made any points lately so of course I haven't "denied" them! You WERE wrong about NIST's physical evidence, you WERE wrong about nano-thermite existing before 2002, and you WERE wrong about sol gel nano-thermite being safe, cheap, and easy to produce in large quantities.
I have never seen nor heard of a "Truther Lab Report"
I have heard of "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe" Apparently you are so scared of this paper that you cannot even refer to it by name. You said Harrit this time so I gather this is the report you are referring to. Though originally you said "it doesn't claim thermite" so I thought you were talking about something else. You realize that claim is in the title, right?!?
What YOU refer to is the paper that Neills Harrit, and Twoofers from BYU (Stephen Jones), AE911Truth, and two other Twoofer organizations created FROM the lab report put out by S & J scientific, the actual LAB REPORT company.
Those are the people on the front of the report, ya know.
The publication of that report caused the Editor to Resign, because it was basically a Fraud, and she knew it.
The actual S&J Scientific report is on Bentham Science.
SO, Smitty, do you understand that Niels Harrit, and Steven Jones, et al, basically lifted the scientific charts and and photos in the S & J Scientific report, and deliberately created a misleading paper to be published in a small, out of the way peer review magazine, by PAYING for it's publication, behind the editor's back?
They had to do that because the ONLY technical report DID NOT claim thermite, and they were doing so.
The paper was unsupported by it's primary lab report, get it?
"The paper was unsupported by it's primary lab report, get it?" no, I don't get it. Not until you give me a link of this mysterious separate report that you claim is also available from Bentham.
Nah, hold up a second. You started going on and on about a "Truther Lab Report"
I asked if you were referring to "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe" and you responded "NO, Smitty, that's NOT the lab report. What YOU refer to is the paper that Neils Harrit [and others] created FROM the lab report put out by S&J scientific"
So WHERE IS THIS LAB REPORT??? I'm very intrigued and want to read it
I'm more than willing to discuss those other points with you. But before I will, you need to show me that you're willing to have a serious discussion.
So, either produce this OTHER report, or admit that you were confused because you never bothered to actually look into the paper that you have been trashing for months.
"At Livermore Laboratory, sol-gel chemistry ... has been the key to creating energetic materials with improved, exceptional, or entirely new properties"
"our new process ... can give us the best of both worlds-higher energy densities and high power as well"
"Producing detonators with pressed powders is a slow manufacturing process, mixing two or more powders homogeneously is difficult ... pressing powders is a hazardous process. Many of these problems may be overcome with the sol-gel process"
Video and photographic evidence combined with detailed computer simulations show that neither explosives nor fuel oil fires played a role in the collapse of WTC 7.
A key factor leading to the eventual collapse of WTC 7 was thermal expansion of long-span floor systems at temperatures hundreds of degrees below those typically considered in current practice for fire resistance ratings.
I'm not interested in lobbying for a new 911 investigation. Such an investigation even if possible and successful would only complete the whitewash and give closure. Do we still really know who killed Kennedy?
It's difficult to rate your comment...on one hand, I understand your cynicism, but I think we need to keep pushing for a REAL investigation, or the alternative is to simply give in and bow our heads to those who would subjugate us with lies!
I think , despite the obvious cover-up of the JFK assassination, we need to make sure that the truth is exposed in the case of 911...or allow yet another monumental crime to go unpunished!
Investigate: JFK, RFK, JFK, Jr., "moon landing", etc.! All lies!I
Keep at it, momentum is gaining, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it! There's been a slow but relentless growth in the truth movement - people are beginning to understand that using childish insults, throwing attacks at the author instead of his/her work, are no longer viable options for dealing with so-called "truthers" (a term I despise, why can't I be normal and the sheepish masses "Ignorants"?)
You are brilliant! I couldn't have said it better myself LOL. All kidding aside, thank you so much for the time you spent going over this report and thank you for the information. Great video!
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Yeah but guess what - Jesus never would have allowed the US to do that because the US is Jesus's country. So I pray for you that you get the TRUTH that the arabians did this to us and GET WITH IT
Are you serious? You say "Jesus never would have allowed the US to do that because the US is Jesus's country"
So, let me get this straight: Jesus is just chillin there when he sees someone about to attack the WTC. He says "Ah, hell no, not in MY country" and stops them. Right? Uh... except for one part, that no matter what you believe, the WTC WAS attacked!!
So, Jesus is cool with foreigners attacking, just not with powerful bankers attacking ... yeah that makes sense *sarcasm*
No Jesus said the arabians could attack us but he NEVER would let american attack us becauese AMERICA IS HIM, you see now?? The bad guys can do whatever they want because the devil controls them but god controls america like a robot so the robot cannot attack itself or break down!
Okay because you can't understand I'm going to lay this down for you really simple:
America is Jesus country and yes is like a robot but without the machines but only like a robot that it can't destroy itself. The Devil is like a ghost and that can attack the robot because robots are weak to ghosts but only when the ghost's dad (Jesus) lets the ghost attack the robot. Jesus wanted to teach us a lesson by letting the ghost attack the robot because we are gay here.
so the ghost of Jesus's son attacked the robot Jesus America because of gay people using all the lube and the robot started rusting? Am I following you here? It's amazing talking with you, please continue.
Gay people are like a virus in America robot's programming and Jesus let the ghost Devil to shoot fire into the wires of robot America to punish the virus BUT the fire doesn't DESTROY the virus, it's more like a red light that flashes to let us know we HAVE the virus. WE have to install Norton to destroy the virus and we do that by banning gay people so that the arabian virus will go away so the ghost won't shoot fire into the robot's wires again and we can be a good country
As opposed to the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE you don't seem to have, Smitty?
NIST seems to have the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that you don't.
Oh, and that this poster doesn't have either.
Scientifically, Downloade123 is full of shit, Nano thermite production didn't exist until 2002, that's in AAMPTIAC, the magazine they often quote for Nano thermite. Apparently, Truthers don't read their own documentation.
"NIST seems to have the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that you don't"
uh, Merlin why did you even bother replying to me? You could not be more WRONG. Why not do a little research before making ignorant comments like that? NIST did their ENTIRE building 7 report without a SINGLE PIECE of physical evidence! NONE!! as in nada, ziltch, not a shred of physical evidence!!! got it?
Merlin: "Nano thermite production didn't exist until 2002"
COMPLETELY WRONG, again. Why do you even bother? First, the 2002 AMPTIAC article you mention is covering an April 2001 DoD symposium!! And that was covering research done well before that!!
"By adding a metal fuel (e.g., aluminum) to the sol prior to gelation, we were successful in synthesizing pyrotechnic nanocomposites (thermites, as shown in the figure)" -- 1999 Annual Report from LLNL
Well, SMITTY, apparently you did NOT read the AAMTIAC report, which I did, and I do often, as I am an engineer.
Here is the Report, read it yourself, MORON.
ammtiac. alion science. c o m / pdf / AMPQ6_1.pdf
The explanation of HOW the production facility at Indian Head, SC. was setup, and WHY it was precedent setting and new to materials science, begins on page 42?, as I recall.
The limits on production, 2.8 ounces a day, are on page 45.
wow, you are fucking dense. Rather than concede the fact that you were completely and utterly wrong about both NIST and nano-thermite, you responded as if I was the idiot here.
The production rate you described for nano-thermite is NOT applicable to the red/gray chips. You will see that Fe2O3, a critical ingredient of the chips, is NOT involved. However, the properties of sol-gel nano-thermites matches the red/gray chips much more closely, and sol-gel are much cheaper and easier to make!!
ok well we know that it is pretty strange that a building would fall like that because of office fires alone. no explanation has been given for that. exept nists report which was just shown to be pretty falacious. the only plausible evidence that has been given for it was the nano thermite. and as the video suggested , they had the oprtunity to plant said nano thermite, AND that oportunity can be linked back to the white house through blood. i dont mean to sound like a truther but thats "odd".
bigcheesy95 3 weeks ago
hahaha! i love how this guy says its all coming to a head, it ends now! hahaha no one has or is investigating anything because all of this is a load of crap. its been nearly 2 years since this video. when does it end?
digitalblasphemy1100 8 months ago
Nice! Thanks for reposting this! Be sure to mirror some of my newer videos going over who had demolition access to the buildings and the connections of the Security companies in the towers before 9/11 as well as NIST connections to SAIC and the subsequent cover-up for the use of nanothermite explosives in the WTC.
WarCrime911 1 year ago
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3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since WTC 7 was constructed over a Con Ed station, how did the structural framing compensate for the station and how did that influence the collapse?
How much nanothermite did Niels Harrit estimate was used in the supposed controlled demolition of WTC 1, 2, & 7?
If a postcard could survive the Hindenburg inferno isn't it possible for a passport to survive the WTC collapse?
ctcole77 1 year ago
@WarCrime911 I still ROFL at your umbrage about ridiculously miniscule details like shadow analysis, or combustible materials (have you ever BEEN in a meeting room, it's usually big wood tables LOL). And there was NO direct violation of NFPA. And the collapse did NOT meet the test of High Order Damage. But because your script sounds so official, to some it actually sounds like you know what you'r talking about. And then you have the nerve to bring up the BBC and other reports, how pathetic.
bman342 9 months ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If NORAD was told to “stand down” how do you explain F-15 fighters ordered to intercept the high-jacked planes 6 minutes after WTC 1 was hit?
How can Dick Cheney order NORAD to “stand down” if he was never in charge of NORAD?
How many of Pilots for 911 Truth's professionals have experience flying a Boeing 767?
ctcole77 6 months ago
So you debunked nothing..just blured it up like the rest...
TheoriginalGrumphy 1 year ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Why did Dr. Steven Jones circumvent the peer review process by not showing his nanothermite paper to the chief editor and printing it without her approval?
Demolition experts estimated it would take 100 men 6 months to place explosives in WTC 1, 2, & 7. How come no one witnessed any strange construction activity?
How can Arch & Eng for 911 Truth be considered a professional organization when 80% of its members are students? rate up!!
weseyedwalk 1 year ago
@weseyedwalk Yes why did he..Maybe he was afraid to give them the possibility to blur this up to..
Whe talk unreacted thermit..If not..Why no trials for slandering and missinormation..
Cause truth is liabel in court
TheoriginalGrumphy 1 year ago
@TheoriginalGrumphy So do you believe the Clinton administration was behind the first trade center bombings in New York? What about the USS Cole? How about all the other consistent terrorist attacks around the world claimed by the same people? Were those done by our government to? Way way to far fetched from reality. Islam demands world conversion, if you study the war verses in the Qu'ran you would know that 911 was consistent with it's indoctrination. Look at Islamic Europe today!
weseyedwalk 1 year ago
@weseyedwalk
It's not about Clinton, it's about the Elite. The Elite (or the wealthiest people in the world) convene and conspire to carry out events such as these. Clinton, Bush, Obama.. they're irrelevant. They are there only to deceive you into believing we are the good guys, while the Elite are a multi-racial group of billionaires. 9/11 was carried out by them because they hold allegiance only to the group, not to the country. Politics is not for the people anymore, its private interest.
rashock12 1 year ago
@rashock12 Funny so 9/11 was carried out by the rich, yet the rich took the biggest hit in the stock market. I do agree with you about the rich plotting against us, but it is the liberal rich who are against the conservative rich and the rest of us. The liberal rich want the U.S. to be dissolved and they want a one world government. As far as 9/11, no way, that was the work of Islam for sure, look at the consistency of their work. They like hijacking planes to.
weseyedwalk 1 year ago
@weseyedwalk
Where is the consistency? I'm pretty sure 9/11 is the only precedented occurrence of a plane flying into a skyscraper. If you look up a list of aircraft hijackings on wikipedia you'll find that the large majority of the hijackings were not people of Islamic faith. You can see, D.B. Cooper (US) Garrett Trapnell (US) Billy Gene Hurst Jr. (US). We don't talk about these though, because we wouldn't condemn our own actions, only others.
rashock12 1 year ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since the govt. committed 9/11, why arent truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?
If there was no flight 93, please explain how 95% of the plane debris was recovered?
If there was no flight 77, please explain how 130+ witnesses reported seeing a plane?
ctcole77 1 year ago 2
@ctcole77 Hmmm.. Ever read Cass Sunstein's paper on Conspiracy Theories about how the Judicial Branch goes hand in hand w/ the Fraud Evidence to qualify and make it credible? Read on the Scott Bigham + Zaccarias Trial Issue w/ the FOIA and the release! 95% was not found. 95%? A few pictures count as 95% of a handful of small debris? CNN only warrants that from RKOwens4 and CNN doesn't bias or get controlled...right. Flight 77 doesn't matter, Straw Man, drones were used on WTC Twin Towers, why
NothingAtAllXD 4 months ago
@ctcole77 Not the Pentagon? Missile is just another Straw Man, 130, maybe not gov't related witnesses? Or just a plane-looking Cruise Missile? What terrible conciseness you utilize. Hasty Generalization Fallacy.
NothingAtAllXD 4 months ago
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@NothingAtAllXD i have a few questions for you
If NORAD was told to “stand down” how do you explain F-15 fighters ordered to intercept the high-jacked planes 6 minutes after WTC 1 was hit?
How can Dick Cheney order NORAD to “stand down” if he was never in charge of NORAD?
How many of Pilots for 911 Truth's professionals have experience flying a Boeing 767?
Zero2Legend 3 months ago
@weseyedwalk
Plus, the rich don't care about taking a minor hit. Corporate conglomerates work together to lull us into a false sense of security. They are working for the 'greater good', so a minor setback is essential to their agenda as a whole.
The towers were built to withstand a plane flying into them, in order to bring them down you have to get at the foundation (base columns) of the buildings. In other words, you'd have to blow charges on those base columns, and voila planned demolition.
rashock12 1 year ago
thankyou for taking the time to research the rubbish posing as scientific data. we will get to the bottom of this
nxu89 1 year ago
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DoYouCareAboutTruth 2 years ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Why did Dr. Steven Jones circumvent the peer review process by not showing his nanothermite paper to the chief editor and printing it without her approval?
Demolition experts estimated it would take 100 men 6 months to place explosives in WTC 1, 2, & 7. How come no one witnessed any strange construction activity?
How can Arch & Eng for 911 Truth be considered a professional organization when 80% of its members are students?
ctcole77 1 year ago
@ctcole77 well the janitor in the buildings actually did..Also stated there where eksplosions in the cellar prior to the plane hit..But as ussual the goverment just didnt lett these people testefy...Instead they relly on bullshiat like you..And students..Thats good,hat shows where you suckers will end up in history..Cause student all around the world are thought you being mentals...And tehy are darn right
TheoriginalGrumphy 1 year ago
@ctcole77
2 Questions sheeple don't want you to ask them:
How did the towers crash to the ground at the speed of gravity without the use of explosives on the base columns? This defies the laws of physics.
How did WTC 7 mysteriously just crash to the ground AND receive little to no media coverage?
You only hear what they want you to hear, nothing more.
The tables are tilted folks, the game is rigged.
rashock12 1 year ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since WTC 7 was constructed over a Con Ed station, how did the structural framing compensate for the station and how did that influence the collapse?
How much nanothermite did Niels Harrit estimate was used in the supposed controlled demolition of WTC 1, 2, & 7?
If a postcard could survive the Hindenburg inferno isn't it possible for a passport to survive the WTC collapse?
ctcole77 1 year ago 2
I watched them talk about the concussion ruling out controlled demo on the news. complete bullshit.... as if they could not have used some other type of explosives or used c4 and muffled the concussions in some way.
mrwizard319 2 years ago
IT WAS THE TRAITOR BUSH!
Bush did 911, and here's how it went down.
Bush was on the first plane to hit WTC and parachuted out at the last minute shouting "mission accomplished!". If you look at the film footage you can see his parachute, it says "Don't mess with Texas" on it.
Cheney piloted the other plane that crashed into the WTC. He died and the GOP replaced him with a robot clone.
For real.
That's why that guy got shot hunting, a Cheney-bot shot him.
ctcole77 2 years ago
Oh, and yes, smitty, you ARE the idiot here.
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Merlin5x5 2 years ago
By the way, Smitty, since you are NOT too bright, here is the address of the national sol gel society.
isgs. o r g
Why not go see if you can find a sol-gel nano thermite production article?
It's NOT there because no one needs or bothers with Sol-gel production of Nano thermite. No one uses it.
It's a lab curiosity, like a chicken with teeth.
It exists, but who cares?
Merlin5x5 2 years ago
LLNL: "We have invented a new method of making nanostructured energetic materials, specifically EXPLOSIVES, propellants, and pyrotechnics, using sol-gel checmistry. The ease of this synthetic approach along with the inexpensive, stable, and benign nature of the metal precursors and solvents permit LARGE-SCALE SYNTHESIS to be carried out. This approach can be accomplished using low cost processing methods." emphasis added
BTW, this was from more than a year BEFORE 9/11
smitty121981 2 years ago
Do what I asked you, go to the International Sol-Gel society and search for an active production site.
It simply doesn't exist, smitty.
The announcement of a method, is NOT production, is it?
IN FACT, Sol-Gel production, as far as I know, hasn't been used for anything past small lots of material (under 1 ton) anywhere in the US.
Maybe you should read the sol-gel society, huh?
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Merlin5x5 2 years ago
ok so let me get this straight - I'm backing up everything I say with quotes straight from the labs that make nano-thermite. Your new "source" is some website that apparently does not mention it at all!! That's not a source!! What exactly is your point? That's it's not well known? I agree with you on that. You certainly don't know much about it.
Your other source AMPTIAC, which you misleadingly tried to quote from, lists SEVERAL advantages of nanoenergetics compared to traditional energetics.
smitty121981 2 years ago
Uh, sorry, Smitty, but NO, you are not quoting the labs.
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories (LLNL) reported the invention of the process, not the making of it in ANY quantities.
My new source is THE national clearing house for Sol-Gel Chemistry, and knows EVERYTHING about it, including who is doing it. The LIST doesn't include LLNL.
Go look yourself.
LLNL was part of the SPUTTERING invention team, and was late in the game for SOL-GEL, which was a photo industry invention.
Merlin5x5 2 years ago
"you are not quoting the labs" WTF?!? are you fucking serious? so LLN LABS is not a lab? What the fuck is wrong with you?
"the LIST doesn't include LLNL" that just proves that it's not a relevant source for this discussion! Obviously they don't cover EVERY aspect of sol-gel production, which is WIDELY used in MANY industries!!
LLNL has been involved in sol-gel research since 95 (or earlier) and nano-thermite sol gel since 99 (or earlier) so they ARE a very relevant and valid source to use
smitty121981 2 years ago
Yeah, I am serious, you are not quoting the labs.
Lawrence livermore is a RESEARCH lab, dimwit. They don't produce anything except papers, and preliminary lab work.
They prove it's possible, the don't do it.
Besides, I know your quote. AND I know the Truther website you got it from.
Quick, smitty, who is the one saying this?
I know, lets see how long it takes you to find out.
LLNL OWNS all the processes it invents, by the way. SO you have to quit to patent anything.
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Merlin5x5 2 years ago
"I know the Truther site you got it from" Just so you know, it's from llnl. gov - like i said, straight from the labs. I can send you links if you want.
So let's see what we have both established here: nano-thermite IS a real substance, which DID exist years before 9/11. It CAN be produced in large quantities safely and cheaply. It CAN be used in explosives, either as the detonator or the warhead. It is apparently ONLY made by govt labs.
oh yeah, and it was found in the WTC dust!!!!
smitty121981 2 years ago
Fine. Prove the links, super-genius.
You and I BOTH know you don't know who said that quote, because the Speaker is NOT attributed on Truther Websites.
AND, you LIE again, when you talk about Nano thermite, since you don't know jack shit about materials science.
SO, tell us how you would produce it safely and cheaply in large quantities.
Because the Government doesn't.
That's in the AAMTIAC article itself, it's a part time project, and it's NOT done full time.
DOCUMENTATION, pls.
Merlin5x5 2 years ago
I'll send you an IM with the links.
don't accuse me of lying again.
as for your question:
"The sol-gel method is a safe, inexpensive, convenient, and flexible route to the synthesis of these types of nanocomposites"
"In our hands, the wet pyrotechnic nanocomposites cannot be ignited until the drying process is complete. This property should allow the production of a large quantity of the pyrotechnics that can be stored safely for some time and dried shortly before its use." -- LLNL 2000
smitty121981 2 years ago
Sorry, Smitty, you are a LIAR again.
Go ahead, give us the links right here.
You cut and paste from Truther websites, and I doubt you have EVER even visited the LLNL. g o v website, otherwise you would know that you can go to an archive of their published papers.
Daniel M. Makowiecki, and his lawsuit are kinda famous, as it applies to MANY federal scientists that retire and / or leave federal research labs to TRY to become millionaires with federal inventions.
The Bill always comes.
Merlin5x5 2 years ago
call me a liar one more time asshole and this debate is OVER!!
smitty121981 2 years ago
By the way, Smitty, the guy who is quoted by Truther Websites, and is FROM the Lawrence Livermore national labs is Daniel M. Makowiecki.
He proposed both the Sputtering method, and possible use of sol-gel, and temporarily left LLNL to lead a company that went nowhere fast.
He is now BACK at the LLNL, partly to avoid an expensive lawsuit brought by LLNL over it's ownership of the patents.
That's why I was giving you the hint.
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Merlin5x5 2 years ago
I've never heard of Makowiecki. Do you have a quote from him of interest?
The main nano-thermite researchers I've seen from LLNL are Tillotson, Gash, and Simpson
smitty121981 2 years ago
Makowiecki is the HOLDER of the patents on nano explosives for the LLNL.
Daniel M. Makowiecki
Nano-engineered Explosives
U.S. Patent 5,505,799
April 9, 1996
llnl. g o v / str / Pat796. h t m l
Notice that NONE of your names are on the Patent.
I can show you how to do a Patent search also.
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Merlin5x5 2 years ago
that patent is interesting because it's from 1996 and is about nano-explosives. So if you knew about this why did you claim originally that the stuff didn't even exist before 2002??
And the names I mention aren't on there, because this stuff is NOT sol-gel based. So it's interesting but not all that relevant. The red/gray chips do NOT match the description of this stuff. How are those links working out for you?
smitty121981 2 years ago
Yup, because a Patent is about HOW it's possible.
NOT because it exists, super-genius.
The FIRST production facility was at Indian Head, SC. and didn't go production until 2002. It functions part time.
Your first link is from 2003, your 2nd link is from 2000, and involves BEAKERS of aerogel, which means amounts so tiny it's ridiculous. Your last link is from 2004.
Now, how does this apply to 100 TONS of nano thermite at the WTC in 2001 again?
Maybe they used time travel.
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Merlin5x5 2 years ago
wow, I'm glad you took the time to read the dates of the papers. Maybe next time you'll make it to some of the words and pictures.
from your very first comment here, you were claiming things which are not true and I have consistently shown them to be false with SOURCES! You have yet to source ANY of your claims
Do you really think they would publicly document the production of the materials used to demolish the WTC?? NO!! But i HAVE proven it to be possible, and it was FOUND IN THE DUST!!
smitty121981 2 years ago
Merlin5x5 2 years ago
"The Truther Lab Report pointed to on Truther Websites is NEVER quoted" disgustingly derogatory remarks aside, what the fuck are you talking about?
And you haven't made any points lately so of course I haven't "denied" them! You WERE wrong about NIST's physical evidence, you WERE wrong about nano-thermite existing before 2002, and you WERE wrong about sol gel nano-thermite being safe, cheap, and easy to produce in large quantities.
smitty121981 2 years ago
Well, Smitty, I actually HAVE the Truther Lab Report, do you?
I just googled it, LOL. Got it from Bentham Science Publishing.
Haven't you EVER read the famous Neills Harrit lab report, the smoking gun of WTC conspiracy nutjobs?
Maybe you should read it.
As far as SOL-GEL, why won't you just grow up and admit it doesn't exist in quantities over a thimble even now.
That's from BOTH your sources and mine.
I mean, if you claim was true, Neills Harrit would have brandished some.
Merlin5x5 2 years ago
I have never seen nor heard of a "Truther Lab Report"
I have heard of "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe" Apparently you are so scared of this paper that you cannot even refer to it by name. You said Harrit this time so I gather this is the report you are referring to. Though originally you said "it doesn't claim thermite" so I thought you were talking about something else. You realize that claim is in the title, right?!?
smitty121981 2 years ago
No, Smitty, thats NOT the lab report.
What YOU refer to is the paper that Neills Harrit, and Twoofers from BYU (Stephen Jones), AE911Truth, and two other Twoofer organizations created FROM the lab report put out by S & J scientific, the actual LAB REPORT company.
Those are the people on the front of the report, ya know.
The publication of that report caused the Editor to Resign, because it was basically a Fraud, and she knew it.
The actual S&J Scientific report is on Bentham Science.
Merlin5x5 2 years ago
hmm... I have never heard of this separate report and a quick search on Bentham showed nothing. Please IM me a link so that I may read it.
smitty121981 2 years ago
SO, Smitty, do you understand that Niels Harrit, and Steven Jones, et al, basically lifted the scientific charts and and photos in the S & J Scientific report, and deliberately created a misleading paper to be published in a small, out of the way peer review magazine, by PAYING for it's publication, behind the editor's back?
They had to do that because the ONLY technical report DID NOT claim thermite, and they were doing so.
The paper was unsupported by it's primary lab report, get it?
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Merlin5x5 2 years ago
"The paper was unsupported by it's primary lab report, get it?" no, I don't get it. Not until you give me a link of this mysterious separate report that you claim is also available from Bentham.
smitty121981 2 years ago
hey Merlin, it's been 24 hours now, so where's that link?? Oh come on now don't be shy, show me!
or is this checkmate?
smitty121981 2 years ago
How exactly, smitty, does reports posted 2 and 3 years AFTER 9/11 (of thermite matches) prove 100 TONS on 9/11 2001 again?
Specially, can you JUST ONCE acknowledge that my posts are proof, and often from YOUR sources, which you don't READ?
THEN you can move on to the next question ok?
It's not like I haven't seen these questions, and ANSWERED THEM, before, EVEN from you!
My guess is you will pose them again, and I will have to answer them again.
SHOW SOME LEARNING ABILITY.
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Merlin5x5 2 years ago
Nah, hold up a second. You started going on and on about a "Truther Lab Report"
I asked if you were referring to "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe" and you responded "NO, Smitty, that's NOT the lab report. What YOU refer to is the paper that Neils Harrit [and others] created FROM the lab report put out by S&J scientific"
So WHERE IS THIS LAB REPORT??? I'm very intrigued and want to read it
smitty121981 2 years ago
I'm more than willing to discuss those other points with you. But before I will, you need to show me that you're willing to have a serious discussion.
So, either produce this OTHER report, or admit that you were confused because you never bothered to actually look into the paper that you have been trashing for months.
only then can we continue.
smitty121981 2 years ago
"At Livermore Laboratory, sol-gel chemistry ... has been the key to creating energetic materials with improved, exceptional, or entirely new properties"
"our new process ... can give us the best of both worlds-higher energy densities and high power as well"
"Producing detonators with pressed powders is a slow manufacturing process, mixing two or more powders homogeneously is difficult ... pressing powders is a hazardous process. Many of these problems may be overcome with the sol-gel process"
smitty121981 2 years ago
yo downlode123, this jackass says you're full of shit, but I got your back
peace
smitty121981 2 years ago
Video and photographic evidence combined with detailed computer simulations show that neither explosives nor fuel oil fires played a role in the collapse of WTC 7.
A key factor leading to the eventual collapse of WTC 7 was thermal expansion of long-span floor systems at temperatures hundreds of degrees below those typically considered in current practice for fire resistance ratings.
Synthetrix 2 years ago
I'm not interested in lobbying for a new 911 investigation. Such an investigation even if possible and successful would only complete the whitewash and give closure. Do we still really know who killed Kennedy?
Antarblue 2 years ago
It's difficult to rate your comment...on one hand, I understand your cynicism, but I think we need to keep pushing for a REAL investigation, or the alternative is to simply give in and bow our heads to those who would subjugate us with lies!
I think , despite the obvious cover-up of the JFK assassination, we need to make sure that the truth is exposed in the case of 911...or allow yet another monumental crime to go unpunished!
Investigate: JFK, RFK, JFK, Jr., "moon landing", etc.! All lies!I
Bongofury361 2 years ago
I see the American Conservative magazine is publishing a cover story on Sibel Edmonds early next week. She's the FBI whistle-blower who was fired.
This is the same FBI that was itself investigated by the books "Welcome to Terrorland" and "The Big Wedding."
If CONSERVATIVES are researching this, maybe the mainstream media will pay attention.
Falling buildings are just the beginning. Videos & science. But the subsequent coverup afterwards comes from investigative reporting.
aikido7 2 years ago
Keep at it, momentum is gaining, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it! There's been a slow but relentless growth in the truth movement - people are beginning to understand that using childish insults, throwing attacks at the author instead of his/her work, are no longer viable options for dealing with so-called "truthers" (a term I despise, why can't I be normal and the sheepish masses "Ignorants"?)
zapproowsdower 2 years ago
Using false science to push the agenda,(fluoride,aspartame,mercury in vaccines) that's old hat to them.
javalily 2 years ago
You are brilliant! I couldn't have said it better myself LOL. All kidding aside, thank you so much for the time you spent going over this report and thank you for the information. Great video!
22rivercitymama 2 years ago
Awesome video.
ChuckBleedinNorris 2 years ago
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Yeah but guess what - Jesus never would have allowed the US to do that because the US is Jesus's country. So I pray for you that you get the TRUTH that the arabians did this to us and GET WITH IT
I will pray
harpsandangelssing 2 years ago
go watch religilous.
c5regret 2 years ago
... i don't think that "arabians" got us into this... because ARABIANS are a type of horse!!!
glebber 2 years ago
Are you serious? You say "Jesus never would have allowed the US to do that because the US is Jesus's country"
So, let me get this straight: Jesus is just chillin there when he sees someone about to attack the WTC. He says "Ah, hell no, not in MY country" and stops them. Right? Uh... except for one part, that no matter what you believe, the WTC WAS attacked!!
So, Jesus is cool with foreigners attacking, just not with powerful bankers attacking ... yeah that makes sense *sarcasm*
smitty121981 2 years ago
No Jesus said the arabians could attack us but he NEVER would let american attack us becauese AMERICA IS HIM, you see now?? The bad guys can do whatever they want because the devil controls them but god controls america like a robot so the robot cannot attack itself or break down!
YOU SHOULD RESEARCH MORE
harpsandangelssing 2 years ago
"Jesus said the arabians could attack us" Really?? When was that? Is that in the Book of Matthew or something?
I'm glad to know that America is actually a robotic Jesus. That's pretty fucking sweet.
smitty121981 2 years ago
Okay because you can't understand I'm going to lay this down for you really simple:
America is Jesus country and yes is like a robot but without the machines but only like a robot that it can't destroy itself. The Devil is like a ghost and that can attack the robot because robots are weak to ghosts but only when the ghost's dad (Jesus) lets the ghost attack the robot. Jesus wanted to teach us a lesson by letting the ghost attack the robot because we are gay here.
Okay??? You are convinced
harpsandangelssing 2 years ago
so the ghost of Jesus's son attacked the robot Jesus America because of gay people using all the lube and the robot started rusting? Am I following you here? It's amazing talking with you, please continue.
smitty121981 2 years ago
Gay people are like a virus in America robot's programming and Jesus let the ghost Devil to shoot fire into the wires of robot America to punish the virus BUT the fire doesn't DESTROY the virus, it's more like a red light that flashes to let us know we HAVE the virus. WE have to install Norton to destroy the virus and we do that by banning gay people so that the arabian virus will go away so the ghost won't shoot fire into the robot's wires again and we can be a good country
harpsandangelssing 2 years ago
so Jesus let 9/11 happen to punish the gay people? Holy shit dude you are off your rocker.
smitty121981 2 years ago
Troll'd.
harpsandangelssing 2 years ago
tell me more
smitty121981 2 years ago
As opposed to the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE you don't seem to have, Smitty?
NIST seems to have the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that you don't.
Oh, and that this poster doesn't have either.
Scientifically, Downloade123 is full of shit, Nano thermite production didn't exist until 2002, that's in AAMPTIAC, the magazine they often quote for Nano thermite. Apparently, Truthers don't read their own documentation.
Do you?
Merlin5x5 2 years ago
"NIST seems to have the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that you don't"
uh, Merlin why did you even bother replying to me? You could not be more WRONG. Why not do a little research before making ignorant comments like that? NIST did their ENTIRE building 7 report without a SINGLE PIECE of physical evidence! NONE!! as in nada, ziltch, not a shred of physical evidence!!! got it?
smitty121981 2 years ago
Merlin: "Nano thermite production didn't exist until 2002"
COMPLETELY WRONG, again. Why do you even bother? First, the 2002 AMPTIAC article you mention is covering an April 2001 DoD symposium!! And that was covering research done well before that!!
"By adding a metal fuel (e.g., aluminum) to the sol prior to gelation, we were successful in synthesizing pyrotechnic nanocomposites (thermites, as shown in the figure)" -- 1999 Annual Report from LLNL
BAM!! run along now mr wizard
smitty121981 2 years ago
Well, SMITTY, apparently you did NOT read the AAMTIAC report, which I did, and I do often, as I am an engineer.
Here is the Report, read it yourself, MORON.
ammtiac. alion science. c o m / pdf / AMPQ6_1.pdf
The explanation of HOW the production facility at Indian Head, SC. was setup, and WHY it was precedent setting and new to materials science, begins on page 42?, as I recall.
The limits on production, 2.8 ounces a day, are on page 45.
50 years to make a TON.
Do YOU read?
Merlin5x5 2 years ago
wow, you are fucking dense. Rather than concede the fact that you were completely and utterly wrong about both NIST and nano-thermite, you responded as if I was the idiot here.
The production rate you described for nano-thermite is NOT applicable to the red/gray chips. You will see that Fe2O3, a critical ingredient of the chips, is NOT involved. However, the properties of sol-gel nano-thermites matches the red/gray chips much more closely, and sol-gel are much cheaper and easier to make!!
smitty121981 2 years ago