Really awesome. A Steampunk gadget that actually uses steam. That's taking in a step beyond everyone else who neglects the use of the style's namesake. Thank you so very much for that.
Wow, the wow and flutter of that sure adds a whole new layer to the Sex Pistols.
The machine itself reminds me of what Pat & Mat created in their "Gramofon" episode: (youtube id No1nIaeyAy4) ... I especially like the Böhmische Polka near the end :)
This is fucking amazing. I know its not the best sound quality or the most efficient but the fact you created this from scratch out of your own awesome imagination is fucking awesome. You are a true inventor. Keep at it and its just a matter of time before you create something everyone wants. I have seen your other creations too like the bender beer maker and the police game booth ect. I wish I was your friend lol.
This is VERY cool looking, but just short of being usable. I don't see a governor on there, and it looks like it's direct drive through that belt. So I'm thinking the speed is **really** not uniform.
sounds like shite! thank god for the end of steam age and electricity! oh gawd thats awful or am on acid?! oh god stop the flashbacks. the spiders!!!!!!! its like a hunter s thompson novel. my attorney has a briefcase and is very capable, im very sweaty and im on rt 50 in nevada with only 5 beers left.
The biggest problem I see is that the needle is actually grinding out the grooves. You can see the increasing areas of damage in the video as the record is playing. It looks like you have some sort of counterweight setup for the tonearm, but it might not be enough. Either that, or whatever you are using for the needle is too big for the grooves of a modern long play record. Either way, that is something that you should really fix before you damage any other records. Impressive job nonetheless!
Aside from the speed difference, seems like it would make more sense to have it play acoustic 78's, less anachronistic too, and old phono parts can be easy to find on ebay... then again, it's obviously not the most high-torque motor in the world.
I love it. The only drawback I notice though, is that the escaping steam goes towards the record. Since vinyl is sensitive to heat, this could be a problem.
As for a centrifugal governor, you need not run feedback to the engine throttle. Instead you could could use the same arrangement as one finds in a spring-driven phonograph. As the weights fly out against springs, they draw a brake disk against friction pads, thus regulating the speed. Granted there is a waste of power, but the system is simple and the regulation excellent. AND, the technology is entirely compatible with the Steam Age--no cheating.
As for a centrifugal governor, you need not run feedback to the engine throttle. Instead you could could use the same arrangement as one finds in a spring-driven phonograph. As the weights fly out against springs, they draw a brake disk against friction pads, thus regulating the speed. Granted there is a waste of power, but the system is simple and the regulation excellent. AND, the technology is entirely compatible with the Steam Age--no cheating.
GOD SAVE THE FOSSIL CUNT !!! god really need to save her because if she isn't alive then all british people will die because of hunger because she is breast feeding the britain and she is not using the tax money at all. every day she wakes up and goes early morning to her shop to sell sandwiches and she pays 60% of her earnings for tax to give a good life to british people. she even has built a ship and many aircraft for her majesty from the sandwich shop. Elly! can I have some chips pleeease
That's unlistenable, but it could be listenable if you built a belt drive that first turned a massive flywheel with a lot of slip, and then the flywheel turned the platter. Also, you need to figure out some type of muffler for the pressure release from the boiler and the exhaust of the cylinder. I'm not sure that a sintered brass muffler like they use in industrial pneumatics would do the trick; you might need to vent into a tank filled with fiberglass or rockwool.
For what its worth thats one of the only applicable things ive seen that borders on steampunk. Otherwise its the only worthwhile thing ive seen besides some other engines.
“Steampunk” style tornado vortex generator. The vortex can clearly be seen as through the large oval window built into the door. A large lever on the side of the chamber allows you to control how much airflow actually is exhausted or re-circulated into the chamber, affecting the strength and even the shape of the vortex.
On the Centrifugal Governor wikipedia page, Alfred Russel Wallace says of the evolutionary principle:
"The action of this principle is exactly like that of the centrifugal governor of the steam engine, which checks and corrects any irregularities almost before they become evident; and in like manner no unbalanced deficiency in the animal kingdom can ever reach any conspicuous magnitude..."
Please note that James Watt designed the thing especially for the steam engine :)
First of all, use a centrifugal governor. A digital controller is nice but 6 magnets does not provide enough resolution to handle oscillations quick enough. Besides, a centrifugal governor adjusts all the time in a fluent manner, and is more fitting in a steampunk design. Next: if you increase the rpm of the steam engine, a more stable running will be the result. Listen to an old car engine idling, the rpm changes the whole time. The same engine at 2000rpm or higher sounds much more steady.
Extraordinary work, about the most interesting servo I've ever seen! It would be nice to play an old Berliner disc of a James Watts voice recording on this.
@caturday6 - since you're such an expert at records, you should know better than to call them vinyls. It is in fact made of vinyl, and the music is "on vinyl", however the disc itself is not "a vinyl." Its an lp, its a record, its even a disc, but it is not "a vinyl". Get it right.
Cool Idea, but that sounds horrible. The record is badly warped and you need to get it to track at a constant speed. Nothing like what a good vinyl should sound like
@Bertziethegreat I agree. Maybe that's not the way the steam is really going, but the way it looks suggests that the steam is venting right onto the vinyl. Some sort of heat shield would probably make a good addition... looks like that record is pretty warped.
You should add a flywheel, but not to the turntable axle but to the crankshaft, to smoothen the vibrato BEFORE it reaches the turntable. It was also suggested to use optical rpm as opposed to magnetic, to improve response. I don't think it matters, after all there are magnetic sensors in highly sensitive aparatuses like hard disk drives. Steam engines are inherently just not responsive enough.
Add a lot of weight to the turntable platter - it will take more effort for the engine to turn it, but the mass of it will act as a flywheel to smooth out the vibrato more
Nice. Funny hearing the track all worbley. I wonder if you could build in some sort of speed regulator, and maybe a sound proof box... that little steam engine makes a racket. Really nice craftsman ship
But I feel I have to suggest that the Watt-governor force issue could be addressed with some version of the steam rudder gear (basically the first servo mechanism).
have a look at tinyurl dot com 25frqrd (Youtube seems to despise URLs)
@DartzIRL That's a good question and the answer is I am not sure but I think at this scale it wouldn't be easy to get working. A fly-ball type governor would need a lot of force to move the throttle lever. A very small, light mechanism probably couldn't mechanically do it. I could maybe use one and electronically sense it's position and use the same servo control method but then that would be cheating! Using the Arduino was very quick and easy once I learned of the PID controller library.
@asciimation You could have ganked the governor from an old nonfunctional record player, or built one. Rather than two brass balls, they basically consist of two strips of felt with a small weight glued to the center of each, but other than that for all intents and purposes are nearly identical in form and function to ball governors. You'd just have to worry about the steam softening and stretching the felt so you'd have to find way to keep it out of the puffs.
@asciimation Ah, I see you already looked into it. It's a matter of speed ratio's really. A faster rotating governor needs less mass for the centrifugal effect, and adds the bonus of functioning as another flywheel. Drawback is that it needs more power and time to spin up. The problem with a servo and PID is that it's always correcting afterwards. If you say the throttle lever needs a lot of force, then I'm curious which design you used.
Yeah, for this experiment that song was a pretty poor choice. Can't tell if it's guitar grinding, or just noise from the system.
bored1980 17 hours ago
Unfortunate choice of song since it already contains a lot of sound close to indistinguishable to noise to some, maybe many, human ears :)
Otherwise impressive!
utubesqueeze 1 week ago 2
It's... scratchy... something wrong with the speed of the turn-table or record?
itsnotjustme 2 weeks ago
I'm sorry, but this is the worst thing ever.
davidcoffey 3 weeks ago
Really awesome. A Steampunk gadget that actually uses steam. That's taking in a step beyond everyone else who neglects the use of the style's namesake. Thank you so very much for that.
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Wow, the wow and flutter of that sure adds a whole new layer to the Sex Pistols.
The machine itself reminds me of what Pat & Mat created in their "Gramofon" episode: (youtube id No1nIaeyAy4) ... I especially like the Böhmische Polka near the end :)
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LuthienAthariel 1 month ago
Wow, the wow and flutter of that .. adds a new dimension to the Sex Pistols :) (or are they?)
LuthienAthariel 1 month ago
What about a Watt centrifugal regulator instead of the Arduino PID in order to control the turntable's speed?
2elettronvolt 1 month ago
i am lost 4 words
007drworm 1 month ago
This is the coolest thing I have seen in a long time.
yamadoo94 1 month ago 5
This is fucking amazing. I know its not the best sound quality or the most efficient but the fact you created this from scratch out of your own awesome imagination is fucking awesome. You are a true inventor. Keep at it and its just a matter of time before you create something everyone wants. I have seen your other creations too like the bender beer maker and the police game booth ect. I wish I was your friend lol.
travincal1 1 month ago
Nicely ambitious :3
ZomboDeZany 1 month ago
This is VERY cool looking, but just short of being usable. I don't see a governor on there, and it looks like it's direct drive through that belt. So I'm thinking the speed is **really** not uniform.
mummyjohn 2 months ago
hahaha this is absolutley hilarious sounding
diamond5381 3 months ago
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Don't care if it is struggling to play properly... Totally F'in Awesome!!! >_<
Echo1970 3 months ago
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Echo1970 3 months ago
god save that record player!
Stinky95030 3 months ago
sounds like shite! thank god for the end of steam age and electricity! oh gawd thats awful or am on acid?! oh god stop the flashbacks. the spiders!!!!!!! its like a hunter s thompson novel. my attorney has a briefcase and is very capable, im very sweaty and im on rt 50 in nevada with only 5 beers left.
Stinky95030 3 months ago
The biggest problem I see is that the needle is actually grinding out the grooves. You can see the increasing areas of damage in the video as the record is playing. It looks like you have some sort of counterweight setup for the tonearm, but it might not be enough. Either that, or whatever you are using for the needle is too big for the grooves of a modern long play record. Either way, that is something that you should really fix before you damage any other records. Impressive job nonetheless!
BeefJerky9999 3 months ago
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BeefJerky9999 3 months ago
not exactly practikle but works
sonic503789 4 months ago
probably you should make the wheel a lot more heavy - then it would stabilize the movement and it would sound more stable...
wasdkralle 4 months ago
Aside from the speed difference, seems like it would make more sense to have it play acoustic 78's, less anachronistic too, and old phono parts can be easy to find on ebay... then again, it's obviously not the most high-torque motor in the world.
But still cool!
TuxedoRonny 5 months ago
awesome :D
DecibelAlex 5 months ago
I'll take 2, along with a steam powered mixer. But can you make them direct drive instead of belt so I can scratch on them too. :)
MrEricDays 6 months ago
I love it. The only drawback I notice though, is that the escaping steam goes towards the record. Since vinyl is sensitive to heat, this could be a problem.
Great idea and looks really good.
St00sh13 7 months ago
Lovely!
You've probably heard it before, but a flywheel and a record clamp would make the whole thing.
laetare 7 months ago
Increasing the mass of the turntable might help in smoothing it out. Heavier the better but you would have to give it a helping hand to get started.
lendusaquid 7 months ago
That sounds just like i remember :-)
lendusaquid 7 months ago
ears are bleeding
XxaphextwiniscoolxX 7 months ago
funny timeshifts :p you should try to improve the timing :p
MrSonicdestruction 8 months ago
I have one of these gadgets meself! ...though it differs somewhat -
My instrument works by means of a wind-up handle which produces electrickry...or something like that.
Hellishcrusade 8 months ago
Yes, definitely a cool thing!
Kg277 9 months ago
The downside is that you can't hear shit.
NotOrdinaryInGames 9 months ago 13
This is great and it makes me like the song even more.
sxipshirey 9 months ago
Now you can listen to old music while you make tea xD
makotomikami 9 months ago
what a fabulous waste of material
Sheboobellach 9 months ago
LMFAO I thought it was the anthem not the punk song! when it started playing i was like what
InternetLad 9 months ago
fucking what
InternetLad 9 months ago
as featured here:
SynthGear[DOT]com/2010/audio-gear/steam-powered-record-player/
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As for a centrifugal governor, you need not run feedback to the engine throttle. Instead you could could use the same arrangement as one finds in a spring-driven phonograph. As the weights fly out against springs, they draw a brake disk against friction pads, thus regulating the speed. Granted there is a waste of power, but the system is simple and the regulation excellent. AND, the technology is entirely compatible with the Steam Age--no cheating.
speed2998 10 months ago
As for a centrifugal governor, you need not run feedback to the engine throttle. Instead you could could use the same arrangement as one finds in a spring-driven phonograph. As the weights fly out against springs, they draw a brake disk against friction pads, thus regulating the speed. Granted there is a waste of power, but the system is simple and the regulation excellent. AND, the technology is entirely compatible with the Steam Age--no cheating.
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GOD SAVE THE FOSSIL CUNT !!! god really need to save her because if she isn't alive then all british people will die because of hunger because she is breast feeding the britain and she is not using the tax money at all. every day she wakes up and goes early morning to her shop to sell sandwiches and she pays 60% of her earnings for tax to give a good life to british people. she even has built a ship and many aircraft for her majesty from the sandwich shop. Elly! can I have some chips pleeease
zederish 10 months ago
That's unlistenable, but it could be listenable if you built a belt drive that first turned a massive flywheel with a lot of slip, and then the flywheel turned the platter. Also, you need to figure out some type of muffler for the pressure release from the boiler and the exhaust of the cylinder. I'm not sure that a sintered brass muffler like they use in industrial pneumatics would do the trick; you might need to vent into a tank filled with fiberglass or rockwool.
rorybz 10 months ago
import album?
MichaelHansenFUN 11 months ago
this is one of the more creative things i've seen
charliemunroe113 11 months ago
This is among the craziest things I have ever seen! I love it!
HigherEnlightment 11 months ago
Visually... beautiful.
Sound... sincerelly, I still prefer my old Garrard.
chpicolo 11 months ago
For what its worth thats one of the only applicable things ive seen that borders on steampunk. Otherwise its the only worthwhile thing ive seen besides some other engines.
11Mixx 11 months ago
watch?v=S23CKi0Mat8
“Steampunk” style tornado vortex generator. The vortex can clearly be seen as through the large oval window built into the door. A large lever on the side of the chamber allows you to control how much airflow actually is exhausted or re-circulated into the chamber, affecting the strength and even the shape of the vortex.
ASMITHSCULP 11 months ago
That is so fricken cool! :D
CaliCatBlog 1 year ago
By the way, absolutely love your creation!
flexyco 1 year ago
On the Centrifugal Governor wikipedia page, Alfred Russel Wallace says of the evolutionary principle:
"The action of this principle is exactly like that of the centrifugal governor of the steam engine, which checks and corrects any irregularities almost before they become evident; and in like manner no unbalanced deficiency in the animal kingdom can ever reach any conspicuous magnitude..."
Please note that James Watt designed the thing especially for the steam engine :)
flexyco 1 year ago
First of all, use a centrifugal governor. A digital controller is nice but 6 magnets does not provide enough resolution to handle oscillations quick enough. Besides, a centrifugal governor adjusts all the time in a fluent manner, and is more fitting in a steampunk design. Next: if you increase the rpm of the steam engine, a more stable running will be the result. Listen to an old car engine idling, the rpm changes the whole time. The same engine at 2000rpm or higher sounds much more steady.
flexyco 1 year ago
i would like to know how to make a steam engine
CannonBall01991 1 year ago
Most excellent latin lady **busizz4me.info**
nawindsor 1 year ago
Now make a steam powered audio amplifier to go along with it!
HyperSpify 1 year ago
GUHH....that irritating whistle would drive me nuts!
Atlanta23410 1 year ago
Hehehe. Steam "punk". Hehehe.
TheWhiteDeath01123 1 year ago
That Philips ceramic pickup is the weak link in your audio chain!
hamstall 1 year ago
thats really cool!!
metallincon1993 1 year ago
how to warp a record WHILE YOU PLAY IT
alin0steglinski0 1 year ago
haha, awesome!
Mrthestyle1 1 year ago
A bigger engine with a flywheel would have given a smoother speed, methinks.
Karlfalcon 1 year ago
@Karlfalcon
Or should I say, bigger flywheel.
Karlfalcon 1 year ago
Never thought about this, but that song fits sooo well into steampunk!
Kl4pp5tuhl 1 year ago
Extraordinary work, about the most interesting servo I've ever seen! It would be nice to play an old Berliner disc of a James Watts voice recording on this.
madamerotten 1 year ago
Neat, but I don't think it will make the wow & Flutter specs.
smokchsr 1 year ago
It's Sid Vicious in AutoTune! :p Amazing find, I love this!
madmanszalinski 1 year ago
That was YOUTUBE "ART" used as it should be right there! Brilliant display!
The noisy steam, warble of the sex pistols messages being snuffed by the technology (i.e. the metropolis man).
Queen;
"I say, let's have those poooor boys put in the dungeon...And burn this bloody vinyl contraption at once!" Get hip there darktiger!
Heyneil
heyneilo 1 year ago
@caturday6 - since you're such an expert at records, you should know better than to call them vinyls. It is in fact made of vinyl, and the music is "on vinyl", however the disc itself is not "a vinyl." Its an lp, its a record, its even a disc, but it is not "a vinyl". Get it right.
DarkTiger8929 1 year ago
So steam punk that the record player gives out steam.
mcpolio 1 year ago
Cool Idea, but that sounds horrible. The record is badly warped and you need to get it to track at a constant speed. Nothing like what a good vinyl should sound like
caturday6 1 year ago
i dont think steam shooting at the record is good for tracking.
pokeher26 1 year ago
now that's steam PUNK
how bout some steam punk dj scratching? lol
sonicase 1 year ago
The Future!
smmmokin 1 year ago
@smmmokin NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE!
LeLimeLine 1 year ago 7
Steam powered, microprocessor controlled. If nothing else it's an amusing anachronism. ☺
ueberRegenbogen 1 year ago
Good job!
syntaxerror6 1 year ago
Having the steam blasting right at the record like that might not be the best idea.
Bertziethegreat 1 year ago 33
@Bertziethegreat I agree. Maybe that's not the way the steam is really going, but the way it looks suggests that the steam is venting right onto the vinyl. Some sort of heat shield would probably make a good addition... looks like that record is pretty warped.
AtheistUndergrad 1 year ago
@Bertziethegreat What do you mean it doesn't look or sound warped at all.... XD
boswell255 1 year ago
@Bertziethegreat I think it most definately the best idea for a Sex Pistols record. lol......thanks for posting asciimation
anepictree 1 year ago
Nice machine and music!
majterstick 1 year ago
You should add a flywheel, but not to the turntable axle but to the crankshaft, to smoothen the vibrato BEFORE it reaches the turntable. It was also suggested to use optical rpm as opposed to magnetic, to improve response. I don't think it matters, after all there are magnetic sensors in highly sensitive aparatuses like hard disk drives. Steam engines are inherently just not responsive enough.
Anvilshock 1 year ago
That's awesome. :D
It's good to know we'll have a way to entertain ourselves after the zombie apocalypse!
Asytra 1 year ago 36
@Asytra Really? how are you going to power the electronic speakers?
phgp27 1 year ago
@phgp27 Tesla?
Draxius 1 year ago
@Asytra you could buy solar panels. energy for ever, and charge batteries at daytime.
loadrunnerste 1 year ago
Nice rubbing of the hands together like a mad scentist on the edge of the screen, nice contraption too.
murmur54kbr 1 year ago
I think you could optically measure the RPM on the smaller wheel and the PID would have a much much better response
cooldemo 1 year ago
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Sir, you are very epic indeed
wurft 1 year ago
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Sir, you are verry epic!!
wurft 1 year ago
It's realy sounds like real punk from my school years... Like the worn tapes what we have listened always... :) Very nice!!!
puckytube99 1 year ago
Nice work!
The link in the info doesn't work though, would have loved to read up on the project.
glitterbugstar 1 year ago
@glitterbugstar Oh, thanks for that. I fixed it now! Lots and lots (and lots) of details how it is made there.
asciimation 1 year ago
im sorry but is it a good idea to direct the steam towards the record?
notmack 1 year ago
@notmack
No it isn´t ; )
Ismalith 1 year ago
oh, well cant there be a way to regulate the speed via gears and a flywheel?
notmack 1 year ago
funky
boardernut 1 year ago
Add a lot of weight to the turntable platter - it will take more effort for the engine to turn it, but the mass of it will act as a flywheel to smooth out the vibrato more
littlewillie65 1 year ago
Real steam, REAL punk... like a literal music video writ large. Nice!
AudioTech50 1 year ago
Nice vibrato sound! =)
fintroniq 1 year ago
Nice. Funny hearing the track all worbley. I wonder if you could build in some sort of speed regulator, and maybe a sound proof box... that little steam engine makes a racket. Really nice craftsman ship
bsenn100 1 year ago
vey nice, good work
jimday666 1 year ago
Ahhh that sounds great...*gurgle*.
lordoid 1 year ago
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Brilliant!
But I feel I have to suggest that the Watt-governor force issue could be addressed with some version of the steam rudder gear (basically the first servo mechanism).
have a look at tinyurl dot com 25frqrd (Youtube seems to despise URLs)
blyndpew 1 year ago
STEAM PUNK!
BhorTjoern 1 year ago 3
That's pretty amazing.
Makes an SL-1200 look like alien tech :]
beatsiz 1 year ago
Its nifty and all but the high pitch whistle is a tad too hard to handle.
Iskarriddler 1 year ago
Audible torque fluctuations?
ArtistEngineer 1 year ago
@ArtistEngineer Same thing I thought, serious wow and flutter going on!
skechyassmofo 1 year ago
Fantastic. please enjoy the enclosed internetz.
vanzetti1927 1 year ago
Maybe I'm being stupid but surely the steam blowing at the record can't be good for it?
senpaipyro 1 year ago
That is the cutest little steam plant ever!!!!
nebutron 1 year ago
Would it not have been possible to use a mechanical governor instead of an arduino?
DartzIRL 1 year ago
@DartzIRL That's a good question and the answer is I am not sure but I think at this scale it wouldn't be easy to get working. A fly-ball type governor would need a lot of force to move the throttle lever. A very small, light mechanism probably couldn't mechanically do it. I could maybe use one and electronically sense it's position and use the same servo control method but then that would be cheating! Using the Arduino was very quick and easy once I learned of the PID controller library.
asciimation 1 year ago
@asciimation Makes Sense. It's a pretty nifty thing at the end of the day, and impressive that it works as well as it does.
DartzIRL 1 year ago
@asciimation You could have ganked the governor from an old nonfunctional record player, or built one. Rather than two brass balls, they basically consist of two strips of felt with a small weight glued to the center of each, but other than that for all intents and purposes are nearly identical in form and function to ball governors. You'd just have to worry about the steam softening and stretching the felt so you'd have to find way to keep it out of the puffs.
Mandolinpossum 1 year ago
@asciimation Try it anyway. Maybe make a version 2.0 with a mechanical governor.
Kl4pp5tuhl 1 year ago
@asciimation Ah, I see you already looked into it. It's a matter of speed ratio's really. A faster rotating governor needs less mass for the centrifugal effect, and adds the bonus of functioning as another flywheel. Drawback is that it needs more power and time to spin up. The problem with a servo and PID is that it's always correcting afterwards. If you say the throttle lever needs a lot of force, then I'm curious which design you used.
flexyco 1 year ago