Yeah, Lexus is reliable, especially after the incident with the faulty brakes and all those deaths caused by those bad brakes. After all, Toyota is Lexus. So I think I'll just stick with BMW or Mercedes.
Don't get me wrong I like the LS, but why the hell would you spend an extra $30,000 on a 600 when it performs the same as a 460 and actually does not consume less fuel? Doesn't make sense to me.
The LS is the only Lexus I'd ever even consider getting if I had that much money, but I'd still take an S-class over it. It actually isn't a blinged up Toyota.
The LS is the only overpriced Toyota (Lexus) worth getting. The rest? Awful cars. I don't care if they're fast from 0-60 because they handle like crap, are cramped as shit and are not even that comfortable. Lexus is such an overrated brand. You've noticed that only morons like RAJSTA81 or JaguarLexusCentral fall for this JapCrap. I'd rather drive a 1979 Plymouth Volare, 1977 AMC Pacer or an '85 Cadillac DeVille than any 2010 Lexus.
You cant afford even the AMC..Your a dreamer Jake.....When you get the chance to test one of the cars that you talk shit about, then we will respect your comments!!!
You just talk shit Jake,
You truly done know what your on about...Maybe to much crack and Amy whinehouse going through yoiur mind
I can afford an AMC. In fact I want an AMC Eagle. These cars are halfway desirable - unlike your POS Lexus bullshit. Gussied up Toyotas sold to gullible morons like you.
Well if you keep saving your welfare check's, yoiu should be able to get that 1000 dollars for your dream car.. Since that is your MAXIMUM budget, You should stop dreaming about owning a Lexus!!!
You couldn't even afford the spare wheel from a Lexus, ya NOB!!
You couldn't even get something for that Pontiac that you own in the cash for clunkers scheme....Face it Jake, your a dreamer and a moron!!
The only Lexus that is actually a blinged-up Toyota is the ES, which is pretty much a Camry. The rest have their own rear-drive platforms, unlike Toyotas which have front-drive platforms. I'm not saying Lexus is no-good, they make pretty good reliable cars, but they just don't feel as special to be in as a Mercedes. You can't really compare BMW and Audi because those are more performance oriented.
To me Lexus isn't a luxury brand. It's a poseur brand. Real luxury is also about the badge. The badge has to feel special or mean something. Look at the history of Mercedes, Bentley, Jaguar or Lancia for example. There is passion, innovation, motorsport etc. in there - things that the Lexus brand lacks. Lexus fanboys always tell me that "Lexus has racing heritage because of the Rolex Series" <-- LMAO!!! I hope you understand what I mean. The Lexus badge is bland, boring and soulless.
Haha I don't watch racing much so I don't know what the Rolex series is, but believe me I know exactly what you mean. Mercedes and Jaguar have long histories behind their names, think E-type and 300SL, while Lexus was introduced 20-something years ago by Toyota to make money off the American luxury car market. I'm not a badge snob, I'd take an LS over a W220 any day if I had that choice, but brand history and sentimentality are quite important to me.
It's good that you know where I am coming from and what I mean. Lexus is what it is: a poseur brand for people who want the features but not the experience. Lexus doesn't offer an experience because the brand itself is so empty, bland, pretentious, boring, boring, boring, more blandness, crap, shit, monkey piss and more pretentious crap. That's what Lexus is. Good value for money, fairly reliable but nothing else. And that suped up MR-2 called the LF-A looks like a ricer's dream car!
I am a bit on the fence about whether the LFA looks ricey on the outside but I don't think of it as a super ricer. This is the first car Lexus has ever made that's not intended to sell in big numbers and make loads and loads of money for Toyota (but $375,000, maybe the second thing is true). Anyways, time will tell whether it improves Lexus' charisma or not.
Lexus doesn't make money on the LF-A given its past enormous development costs. They made this car to obtain credibility - but they won't get it from me. Deep down inside Lexus will always be a boring overpriced Toyota that was created for the gullible US market in order to make money. Lexus is a colossal failure in Europe and Asia. This poseur brand isn't even sold in South America or Africa (except South Africa). A true luxury brand is a GLOBAL PLAYER. Lexus isn't.
@jakemiller5000 shut ur mouth and stop spreading rumor, why do u waste ur and our time just to inform everybody that u dont like lexus, who gives a shit?
@jakemiller5000 Hey,when the brain will come to your empty head?? A?? When you ever see Lexus-truck or Lexus-van or even worst Lexus-front wheel drive (A-klasse) come to spit on me!! Dont talk to me about premium klass couse if there is a car who must be its Lexus!! Its philosophy..,attention to detail,build quality and reliability are no matched!! When you see farmers and villagers driving Lexus,come to tell me!! Cant say the same for Merc and Audi...,its unique and flawless!!
Diesel engines are "tractor engines"? You are a clear example of the typical Lexus: UNINFORMED ASSHOLES. Anyone who knows anything about cars will know that Lexus are overpriced Toyotas with boring design and a lot of marketing hype thrown along behind them. I have friends who were dumb enough to buy an expensive Toyota and these cars are not all what they're made out to be. Interior rattles, shitty quality and design, awful handling and overrated comfort. That's Lexus for you.
@jakemiller5000 Man..,are you really soo stupid that you are not catching non of my irony??!! Do you know what is the definition of a premium luxury car?! How you can put Mercedes S 320 cdi ..Audi A8 3.0 tdi...,park it close to bank or theatre and listening to a sound coming like from a excavator?? Thats why Toyota made LUXURY BRAND-LEXUS,WHERE 16 ENGINEERS ARE WORKING ONLY ON THE ENGINE!!! THE CRAFTWORK THERE IS A JEWEL PIECE OF ART! BUT..WHAT I M LOOSING MY TIME WITH YOU..,GO FUCK YOURSELF!!
You're a fucking idiot. You want to talk about refinement? What the fuck is so special about Lexus refinement when they offer a POS HS250h and CT200h with crappy Toyota 4-cylinders? Cut the fucking bullshit you cocksucking Toyota bitch. AFAIK the diesel S classes and A8 cars are very refined and smooth. I wouldn't know since I live in the US. Lexus is an overrated piece of shit brand. Their refinement is nothing special and it's all marketing hype. Lexus = bullshitters.
@jakemiller5000 Lexus is the most beautiful Luxury car making i've seen. They are well rounded, have simple controls, and have sleek styling. I like the IS250C a lot. It's a luxury convertible. Just because you hate Toyota, That doesn't mean you should announce to everyone that if you like Toyota (Lexus in this case) that they are............... whatever stupid, dumb, and idiot. You just don't do it
@jakemiller5000 And people like you...,who will never affort this car,couse first there is no diesel version 2.0 with 5.5 per 100 km ,second nobody in the village will know what kind of car is that..,but..Mercedes is something else..,everyone knows it..::::))) thats why every villager will buy Audi TDI..Merc..diesel..,and Ford!! Couse these are the real farmer cars!! Villager cars!! When you hear Lexus LS or any..with working like a tractor engine..,come to tell me!!
Hey dumbass, even if I had all the money in the world I'd never waste it on a piece of shit like a Lexus. Lexus and Toyota are the most overrated brands out there at the moment. And the fact that Lexus lacks diesels is one reason why their sales are pathetic in Europe. And do some research, moron. Lexus has a ton of FWD car like the Lexus Avensis, whoops, HS250h, the Lexus Matrix...shit, I mean Lexus CT200h and that glorified Toyota Camry called the 'Lexus ES". What a piece of shit.
@jakemiller5000 What can i say...,would be waste of time to explane to a farmer like you or perhaps villager what is Lexus..,i gave you enough facts...The Lexus "Avensis" is just Toyota Avensis with the Lexus badge,meant to be more luxury but prised a little bit down than real Lexus..,just like Matrix..About overrating..,i can suggest you to click on the compare with the ols 400ls merc s klasse and 7 series..,and you ll see back then in 90 s with how many decades Lexus is ahead...poor farmer
Wait a second...you're comparing the original LS400 to its original competition? LMAO!!! The original LS400 is the most overrated of all Lexus. It arrived in 1989 and competed against the Mercedes S class that was engineered in 1972-1979 and released on the market in late 1979. Facelift for that car was in 1985. So, the LS400 competed with a car designed in the 1970s. No fucking shit the LS400 would be more advanced. The W126 S class was at the end of its product life cycle in 1989!
@jakemiller5000 Man..,since you live in US..,that changes everything...,you grow up with cars from the dino-stone age era,with engines like 5.2..,7.5 ..v8 and so on..,and hp like 87..220 NM..max speed 160 km..plus drum brakes allover...,but...,nice leather seats inside..,to wash up the shame;))) And when you have a chance to go close to European production you just cum in your pants;))) By the way..,are you still using Nokia 3220?? Do you have cameras on your phones yet?...Oh..poor american...
@jakemiller5000 Hey boy..,i dont know how old you are..,but i had chance to drive most of the cars you will never touch..,since my brother is the second biggest car dealer..,so drive whatever you like,Mercedes..,Ford..Citroen..,anything!! Lexus overrated..,overprized..perhaps over-reliable too,since the top german road and service companies like TUV..,DEKRA,KUS..are putting it 6 years continiously on first place...,the germans!! Even in US!! If you live there you should know!! READ CUNT!! READ!
Damn, you're seriously retarded. Which explains why you lust after some POS overpriced Toyota called "Lexus". Lexus is so gay. Seriously. What a POSEUR brand. When some asshole pulls up at a fancy hotel in a Lexus I have to make an effort not to laugh at his sorry retarded ass. Dumbass thinks he's driving something special when he's just in a glorified Camry with leather. Pathetic. And I don't give a shit about your Bulgarian mafia brother. How many girls has he raped? Fucker.
@jakemiller5000 you are a fucktard, you're a fanboy in the automobile world which is so dumb and retarded. I don't care whoever made the car, if the car is beautifully made than I will love and want it. I'm not a brand loyal monkey who find everything about his/her beloved brand superior.
I just dont understand that a girl like you, has the nerve to go saying DUMB shit about a car that you TRULY couldn't to even afford let alone test drive it ,but on the other hand, you claim that your ANCIENT Pontiac 6000 is far more Superior than a current Lexus!!!
folks, please, don't argue in such rough manner about car makers. The car you buy is not a subject to be proud of that and fight with anyone near you (or very far :) ). It would be not a secret to know that different "braands" can be owned by same people.
everyone knows MB had great reliability up until the early 90's when they decided that their cars was over engineer. so they cut cost to make more money and the reliability of the brand suffered... just two years ago they claimed to return to the reliability they had through the 80's and beyond.
They should drop this and the LS460 and put the IS-F 5.0L engine in the LS and make that the stand alone model. The LS600h is SLOWER than the LS460, costs $35k more, and despite being a hybrid gets worse HWY MPG. I don't get it!
@DJFG85 and also....consider this....you will actually probably save more than $35K in gasolin cost...in the ls460....if you consider the life span of the vehicle...so it does not make much sense to own the hybrid for now....
@DJFG85 that might be the next model........THE Ls 500 sounds very nice and has a ring too it ;]....ihope its 400+ hp and 400+ ibs ft of torque at least by 10 from the HP and is rated at 22 30 mpg i really really hope but i guess im asking to much
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO jeeeesuuuus expensive but lvoley <3 i want, i have a es 350, as stated in my user name... i wanted the ls but i can't afford one. anyways im happy with my es anyways =D
skyfaze: Of course, your automotive intellect far surpasses mine. Your intelligent application of "bitch ass nigguh," is a case in point. Go ahead and rate my comments down because all the yuppies get their feewings hurt when their overrated Toyota isn't admired by all the ditto heads that pray to Consumer Reports.
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no reason to buy this over the maserati quattroporte. unless you really hate driving so much that you want a billion gadgets to make it seem like you're not...
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Lexus/Toyota makes such boring cars. Life is too short and if I can afford it, then I'm buying the Cadillac CTS-V or Jaguar XF-R. The Japanese make incredibly stodgy cars; nothing exciting: even the GT-R from Nissan is ugly in terms of design. No thanks: a bloated Camry with hybrid platform. I'll wait for the Chevy Volt if I want green.
your hilarious and clearly possess no knowledge of cars. This car does not compare wiht the CTS-V or XF-R its in the market for the 7 seris and S class or XJR . haha ps ur a fuckign faggot ass bitch ass nigguh
And one more thing. My brother is a successful computer engineer in New York and he drives a Mercedes C300. No problems. The car is also a joy to drive (I've driven it a few times). His ex-girlfriend had a late 2007 Toyota Corolla automatic and that overrated piece of junk failed twice in one month due to transmission problems. So cut the fucking bullshit about how reliable Toyotas are. Their reliability advantage is so small, miniscule and just marginally better than their competitors IRL.
thats because you use cheap gas, and cheap non synthetic oil...idiot, and every so often add octane booster and a fuel traetment to your tank...and dont leave the car idling, its bad the environment and it allows alot of carbon build up (sludge) with-in the engine because its no being exahsted out.... happy driving
That's what i was thinking, non-detergent gas, and improper (or infrequent) oil changes probably caused your engine sludge. There hasn't been a sludge problem in engines (with recommended service) from any manufacturer for at least 15-20 years now
Toyota has denied the sludge problems in their transmissions or the rusting of their Tacoma / Tundra pickups. Eventually it got so bad that Toyota admitted these problems - and yet you have so many morons here babbling on about how reliable Toyota is and how everything else sucks. I have a Camry and Neon and the my Neon ownership has been more than satisfactory. Can't say the same for the "reliable" Camry, which by the way is so boring. If I was 90 years old maybe this car would be fun...
True that, Toytota's reliability is only at the most a few percentage points above that of their competitors, but even one percentage point for a company that sells even a million vehicles (and toyota sells a lot more) is 10,000 cars.
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All those morons who claim Lexus reliability is so fucking good need a reality check. The latest reports have suggested that a Lexus has 4.5 problems per year and a Mercedes has 5.5 problems per year. WOW! What a big fucking difference!!! NOT.
Oh, and Consumer Reports is full of shit. I once read that they gave the Hummer H3 "poor quality" markings because of fuel economy. What the fuck does fuel economy have to do with quality?
The people who read Consumer Reports are idiots. Seriously.
fuel economy has alot to do with quality!...if an engine is consuming fuel like crazy then it isn't very efficient....and if and engine isn't very efficient then it's an engine that doesn't have much engineering in it..it is a primitive cheap engine that just wastes limited resources.
Oh and this is sooo much more reliable considering that Lexus recalled 30,000 LS Models that could lead to a car fire.. It also recalled 125,000 GS models from 2006-2008. Lexus aint shit.. The S550 proves to be more reliable already..
Real? in December 2002, Benz S-class recalled 65000 defective vehicles that could also lead to fires while in 2006 (2/2/06), 36911 Benz CL class were recalled due to electrical wiring malfunctions and faulty trunk lid springs. The lexus GS recall was about 34000 (not 125000). I cant recall lexus recalling 30000 LS models. So benz vehicles aint that much reliable and a significant rip off.
Well it's said that a 5 year old LS 430 is like someone buying a 2009 BMW or MB off the lot "new" in terms of reliability! That says a lot! That means Lexus' don't have PROBLEMS! Damn the nonsense, I'd rather have a trouble free Lexus than the German brands ANY DAY! Plus I'm getting a LS 460 later this year myself! Yeah it's a Toyota underneath, so fu*kin' what?! IT WON'T BRAKE DOWN YOUR AZZ!
Funny thing is when MotorTrend tested the LS600h vs the S550 the Hybrid system in the Lexus over-heated and added 900lbs to the car. Good thing that the LS600h got 2mpg better than the S550. Mercedes and BMW are going to use a Lithium battery that has the same power and life as the 8 batteries that take up almost all the space in the truck of the LS600h. Good job I guess.
Plus, its truck is filled with batteries.. What a shit hybrid. Good thing that BMW and Mercedes is making their models with lithium batteries. I can't remember if it was 1-3 batteries vs the tons of replacable batteries in the Lexus.
Yaa.. but lets look at how many generations Lexus has been copying the S550.. Its designs, technology, and interior styling. This tells you its copying from the best. You can try as hard as you can to talk shit about a S550 but its still out-sells, more technology, high quality and luxury, safer, faster, and handles better. You can say what you want about reliablility about the 750 but no complaints on the S550. People still GLADLY buy the S550 over the LS. Thats the sad part. LS is shit.
u could never compare a merc to lexus when it comes to reliability... never... i bet a camry and accords have far less trips to dealer than a s550.... if mercs have far better quality, why they dont have a better reliability than lexus... smh
Well of course.. a Camry/Accord doesn't have 1% of the technology of a S550. Dont think Lexus is the best cause just recently they recalled over 500,000 GS models.
The S550 also won green car of the year from the German TUV, due to it's small environmental impact, great emissions for it's class, use of green materials, and great mileage for it's class.
The LS600h has all the hype of being a hybrid, but none real life credibility. Toyota is known for peddling a "green" image with hybrids while making their real money on trucks and SUV's (Tundra, LX570). Why is Toyota doing so badly today? Truck sales are down.
A $104,000 Camry that babies old people too incompetent to park themselves and too stupid to know a steering or suspension from an earthquake during bingo night.
@bkvintagecorp Dunno where u get that from. Have had a S600 from 1992 since new and absolutly no major problems at all. There is no S550 btw. They are two of the most reliable cars ever. The lexus hasnt even been around that long to have it put to the test yet.
Everyone, please ignore below Jap(rctsos) comments. He is a idiot dumbass cocksucker who is a real embarassment to Japan nation. True Japanese think of garbage like him as someone who was abused and raped by his fahter and gay freinds when he was young. Please do not think he represents the majority of us Japanese. I apologize that they are so many gay faggot Japanese like him on youtube. I think it is a product of poor family up bringing and a homosexual complex. I am sorry.
Lol.. That's not nice! Evendoe..., I wouldn't mind driving the new Borego or, Amanti..., if you would've said Ford, Chevy or, Dodge..., I would've been alright with that! ;-)
Toyotas hybrid drive is too heavy and complicated with large multiple motor generaters etc. Merc has followed the Honda version and uses a small electric motor within the S class gearbox housing, and a li-ion battery small enough to replace the lead acid under the hood, using an inverter to supply 12v to the cars legacy systems. Has start/stop, regenerative braking etc and adds little extra weight and takes up no extra space while supplying an extra 20Kw and a mountain of torque when needed.
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Those who said the "attention to detail inside is amazing" must be on crack. The Lexus LS has easily one of the cheapest interiors in its class. A lot of British, French and yes, even American reviews have stated this. Shiny silver plastic all over, uninspired door handle designs is called "amazing attention to detail" here? Huh? Look inside an Audi A8, Benz S class or the new BMW 7 series. Now that's attention to detail. The LS is a cheap imitation that is just plain overrated.
@jakemiller5000 if yoou are president or banker you could afford any detail (handmade bentley or even more) but if you choose car looking on your salary, you would choose one with loser price
japan cars made with robots - european need workers
(every lowest level japan car has an A/C but european is craap if cheap)
reviewer are calling them as a shit because west having a big impact from asian small people industry , now it started even in segment of luxury
What the fuck are you trying to say? Learn to communicate in PROPER ENGLISH. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Oh, and the European car industry uses advanced robots in their production facilities at well. Where the fuck have you been for the last, oh, 40 years? Hell, even in the late 1960s the European car industry was depending more and more on robotics to help them produce cars. Cut the bullshit. Many Japanese cars in Japan don't have A/Cs. Big fucking deal.
@jakemiller5000 if i would talk in mother language, you have no chance to communicate (zB 5 falls more than in english) i think this way is better (i don't use rotten words)
in europe robots are used too ()
compare it to more crappy kia
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renault(clio) is a crap compared to nissan(ad) (jap. cars without a/c are very old or rear)
Renault is crap? It's funny watching you Infiniti fanboys slam Renault while praising Nissan/Infiniti models with RENAULT ENGINES. That's right. Those new Infiniti diesels in Europe for example have "crappy" Renault diesel engines - which according to recent tests are EXCELLENT. Gosh, you remind me of that moron called RAJSTA81 who fucks his own brother in the back of his overpriced Toyota Camry (Lexus ES).
@jakemiller5000 i don't think the renault is something noticable, because have no possibility to see a lot of them on streets of europe russia or asia (i have not seen them in some way to remember that). may be they have some industrial success (and i can't know about that) but their cars are not the best. Yes, now toyota has become overpriced as any good car, that can make a concurrency. (Who would pay more for UNCOOL(far not MB) car if it bad)
Renaults are sold in Asia, Africa the Middle East and South America. They're great cars. If you take a trip to North Africa for instance you will see a lot of older Renaults, Peugeots and Citroens (or Talbots, Simcas etc.) still running and soldiering on. The people who say French cars suck (morons like RAJSTA81 for example) are clearly clueless or listen to some bullshit biased publication like Toyota Reports (also known as Consumer Reports)
@jakemiller5000 I doubt that seeing that I have been all over the world in my over 15 years experience in the military fighting for 3 different countries. & it's like I told you before, a Toyota is better than Cadillac, so a car being a dolled-up toyota is a great thing!! You are not insulting anyone by stating that remark.
Sinceramente este es un carro muy guapo fui a nicaragua y es lindo andar en un auto como este es bello. les saludo desde El pais de la aterna Primavera.. Guatemala,.,,,..
I believe this Lexus is the first luxury hybrid ever made. Hybrids should be for the environment, not for your pockets. If people want a fuel efficient luxury car they can go LS460. The LS600HL may not save you much gas money, but it is better for the environment. Give Toyota credit, they built a very fine luxury hybrid.
yeah and that is the reason that whole GMC is on the edge beacouse of this economical crisis, and toyota is working full time...get a grip man...with all do respect for american brands you still have to admire these japs...and don't insult me...we're civilized grown ups here you know...you don't even know me
the camry is overpriced? haha, yeah exactly the reason why its the best selling car for well over a decade....because most americans love overpriced vehicles, right??
yeah, im sure it does. i mean the camry isnt a luxury vehicle and the cts is the best thing gm can come up with. and lick your scrotum? come talk to me when you buy one dumbass
buahahaha yea right and you're what? 12 years old and your daddy told you so...c'mon man everybody knows that the only two cars that you can compare to lexus are bmw and mercedes
Lexus JUST started making their vehicles with better quality ONLY a decade ago! Lexus was Notorious for transmission and, electric problems during the 90's! My girlfriend cousin's boyfriend just got rid of his 1995 Lexus LS400 because of, transmission problems and, he hid only near 130k., also. After the yr. 2000..., Lexus quality started getting much better...but, it's definitely, not the highest in quality. Even the Hyundai Genesis can compete with the LexusGS in quality and, powertrain!
You can continue to say what you want! But you NEED to do some research look at "Consumer reports" magazine, how I'm i to believe you have a valid opinion when you say Hyundai has the same quality as Lexus.
As for your girlfriend's cousins boyfriend's uncle's nephew's Lexus your just making it up for the sake of this discussion. The first gen Ls400 ARE and HAVE been one of the top 10 most reliable cars EVER made, both tranny and engine are bulletprooof so I Dont believe you 1 second
LMAO@"girlfriend's cousins boyfriends uncle's nephews"! I didn't say it like that! Anyways..., as far as, the Lexus LS400 being in the top10 cars ever made, out of ALL cars in the world? It must of definitely been #10(if ever on that list)out of that rating because, I don't believe that! Now...maybe, it was in the top10 relaible LUXURY vehicles but, we all know, the InfinityQ45 was better than, the Lex. LS400. ;-)
the hyundai genesis can compete with the lexusgs??? since when did a car that starts at 27000 bucks compete with a car that starts around 40,000? never. that genesis is a very nice car, but its only been out for a year, while the gs has been made for about a decade...so good job comparing the two.
everybody knows american cars are unreliable, cheap, and have the most technical problems of all car makes....
and i hope you know that toyota makes lexus (toyota has the highest reliability ratings of all cars)....your belief that lexus has too many technical problems comes from where? your nationalist pride?
Lol.. Nationalist pride? That was hilarious!!! You can look on old articles in the Consumer Reports magazine, on the internet and, you'll see, most people complained about technical problems in Lexus vehicles. It ain't nothing cheap about American luxury cars but, the price because, it's domestic! Technical problems, NONE! Only in foreign cars(Lexus, Merc-Benz and, BMW) Audi and, Infinity is ok! Everybody knows, Americans make the MOST reliable cars from half-tons to Vans to small cars!
This is bullshit review. Its from Edmunds. Edmunds hate Japanese Automakers. I really hate edmunds. They only makes stupid reviews.
Dont ever watch this bullshit video. Guys, watch it other than (Edmunds' Inside the Line) because the real facts is that Lexus ls600h have gain the title for being the most Luxury and the most hightech Car in the world.
I agree. I notice this in many Japanese reviews they do seems like all they can talk about is the neagtives of them. U can tell how bias they are, there are videos saying how good the car is...then you have this video that make the car seem like its not good. When some people would kill to own a car like this.
This would be my Luxury car no matter how bad they try to make it look.
Hell yeah man! I would kill somebody to get this car! Edmunds only making a bullshit about Japanese cars.
Because theyre jelous, thats why theyre making a stupid comments about it. What a Germans have? nothing! thats right nothing.
All germans do is copying Japan's technology and call it their own FUCKING DESIGNS!
Even on the car magazines They say that Lexus is the most reliable company that people can trust, not only they gives us a great service, but also a great value of The True Luxury.
This Lexus is the best luxury car in its class bar none. I will have no problem showing this car off and comparing it in person to the S class and 7 series. Dont listen to the bias reviews. This car parks itself, and practiccaly drives itself. The technology and luxury is amazing. Attention to detail and quality is true luxury, not price.
Edmunds missed the entire point of this car. It's for wealthy and discerning drivers who commute from big cities that have HOV lanes that allow hybrid registered vehicles to use quicker HOV lanes so that they can get home faster to their families. That it goes slightly slower and/or faster in measured tests or gets slightly better or worse mpg matters little. If you spend an hour extra per day with the kids, it's worth every penny extra the car costs.
Let me get this straight... it's for 'decerning' drivers who are stupid enough to pay $25,000 more for a car that does less, and arrogant enough to think they should be allowed to use the carpool lane because they have a "hybrid" which pollutes more than the Mercedes S550? Yea, real 'dicerning'.
Where do you Lexus people come up with this nonsense? There is nothing to 'dicern' about Lexus but green hype, feature bloat, and self-parking for people too pathetic to drive on their own.
So what's the point of it ? It's not faster than the LS460 and not very fuel efficient yet costs 40% more than the LS460 ... Let's what Audi will do when they put their V12-TDI in the next gen A8 :)
obviously, 600l is a limo version. So without the hybrid the mpg would've been worse. It costs more because it is stretched version, adds hybrid for more torque and few other extras.
the reviewer ends the review with a stupid comment. If I were in charge at Lexus I'd make sure that his company doesn't review any of our vehicles from here on out.
Good point, if people are honest about the overpriced crap that Lexus makes, Lexus should just not let them talk about it anymore. As much as I would love to have no one review Lexus anymore (after all, only idiots like you drive Lexus's, and idiot's don't care about reviews when they can just ape everything Lexus marketing says), it's not up to Lexus who reviews their cars. Edmunds can just buy one and review it, Lexus has no legal authority to stop them.
This car has been out a few months now. I still don't think people are getting the point behind this car. This car was aimed at a demographic of buyers who couldn't care any less about its price being "justified" or not. People with enough money to even consider this $100K machine don't care that it's no faster than a regular LS, they're paying for the higher status of the "600" badge, the same way S600 buyers have for years over the "500" and "550."
if this car was priced significantly lower than an S Class, i'd understand. why own this, when you could pay a bit more for an S class...the car that pioneers almost every feature you'll find in cars 10 years down the road. truth is, you're buying a toyota in a tux. great reliability, but when you step inside, or even glance from the outside, every component screams toyota. but to each his own.
Edmunds made an error in their review, however, comparing 2007 vs. 2008 EPA ratings. On average, the LS 600h L does get better fuel economy than the LS 460 L.
Uh... I'd rather save 30K and get the LS460L. Its priced lower and gets better fuel economy. Mercedes S class V12 and Lexus LS600 don't need to exist in the 1st place. They think people will waste money on V10 and V12?
claro uqe justifica su precio, aparte de su increible lujo, ofrece lo mejor en tecnoogia, si este no justificca el precio como dicen, muchisimo menos los mercedez que cuestan 120000 dolares, o que, solo por ser aleman debe costar eso. lexus le patea el rasero a mercedez a bmw, a audi, etc
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this car doesn't justify its price at all! what i don't understand is how they could possibly execute it this badly. it doesn't have any performance increase over the LS460L. but don't let that fool you- it doesn't get any better gas mileage, either. what a waste of an extra $35K. just give me an s550, loaded.
Are you a Merc owner, I've owned them and the S-Classes are a waste of $80K-$130K, what a piece of crap. Visited the shop too many times, almost sued them twice! I own a 2003 Lexus LS430, almost 5 years now since new, and I had nothing, I mean nothing wrong with this car, besides oil changes and regular maint. Lexus's are way better than your over priced
Competing with German V12's, but its running 0-60 in 6 seconds? Maybe German V8's, but most definitely NOT V12's.
G0Far 1 month ago
If God became a vehicle, this would be the one. And Jesus would drive it.
wilsonkm 8 months ago 3
@jakemiller5000 Why the anger? Were you raped by a Lexus or something?
usadingo 9 months ago
Yeah, Lexus is reliable, especially after the incident with the faulty brakes and all those deaths caused by those bad brakes. After all, Toyota is Lexus. So I think I'll just stick with BMW or Mercedes.
Corvette90100 1 year ago
@Corvette90100 audi had the same problem late 80 early 90,so were is the problem
MrLup123 9 months ago
Don't get me wrong I like the LS, but why the hell would you spend an extra $30,000 on a 600 when it performs the same as a 460 and actually does not consume less fuel? Doesn't make sense to me.
JaSt321 1 year ago
@JaSt321
Anyone paying so much money for a Lexus, a car that is essentially a gussied up TOYOTA, is a fool. Plain and simple.
jakemiller5000 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000
The LS is the only Lexus I'd ever even consider getting if I had that much money, but I'd still take an S-class over it. It actually isn't a blinged up Toyota.
JaSt321 1 year ago
@JaSt321
The LS is the only overpriced Toyota (Lexus) worth getting. The rest? Awful cars. I don't care if they're fast from 0-60 because they handle like crap, are cramped as shit and are not even that comfortable. Lexus is such an overrated brand. You've noticed that only morons like RAJSTA81 or JaguarLexusCentral fall for this JapCrap. I'd rather drive a 1979 Plymouth Volare, 1977 AMC Pacer or an '85 Cadillac DeVille than any 2010 Lexus.
jakemiller5000 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000
You cant afford even the AMC..Your a dreamer Jake.....When you get the chance to test one of the cars that you talk shit about, then we will respect your comments!!!
You just talk shit Jake,
You truly done know what your on about...Maybe to much crack and Amy whinehouse going through yoiur mind
RAJSTA81 1 year ago
@RAJSTA81
I can afford an AMC. In fact I want an AMC Eagle. These cars are halfway desirable - unlike your POS Lexus bullshit. Gussied up Toyotas sold to gullible morons like you.
jakemiller5000 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000
hahahhahahah
Desirable?????
Oh thats so funny!!!
Well if you keep saving your welfare check's, yoiu should be able to get that 1000 dollars for your dream car.. Since that is your MAXIMUM budget, You should stop dreaming about owning a Lexus!!!
You couldn't even afford the spare wheel from a Lexus, ya NOB!!
You couldn't even get something for that Pontiac that you own in the cash for clunkers scheme....Face it Jake, your a dreamer and a moron!!
You look 40 but act as if ur 12
RAJSTA81 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000
The only Lexus that is actually a blinged-up Toyota is the ES, which is pretty much a Camry. The rest have their own rear-drive platforms, unlike Toyotas which have front-drive platforms. I'm not saying Lexus is no-good, they make pretty good reliable cars, but they just don't feel as special to be in as a Mercedes. You can't really compare BMW and Audi because those are more performance oriented.
JaSt321 1 year ago
@JaSt321
To me Lexus isn't a luxury brand. It's a poseur brand. Real luxury is also about the badge. The badge has to feel special or mean something. Look at the history of Mercedes, Bentley, Jaguar or Lancia for example. There is passion, innovation, motorsport etc. in there - things that the Lexus brand lacks. Lexus fanboys always tell me that "Lexus has racing heritage because of the Rolex Series" <-- LMAO!!! I hope you understand what I mean. The Lexus badge is bland, boring and soulless.
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JaSt321 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000
Haha I don't watch racing much so I don't know what the Rolex series is, but believe me I know exactly what you mean. Mercedes and Jaguar have long histories behind their names, think E-type and 300SL, while Lexus was introduced 20-something years ago by Toyota to make money off the American luxury car market. I'm not a badge snob, I'd take an LS over a W220 any day if I had that choice, but brand history and sentimentality are quite important to me.
JaSt321 1 year ago
@JaSt321
It's good that you know where I am coming from and what I mean. Lexus is what it is: a poseur brand for people who want the features but not the experience. Lexus doesn't offer an experience because the brand itself is so empty, bland, pretentious, boring, boring, boring, more blandness, crap, shit, monkey piss and more pretentious crap. That's what Lexus is. Good value for money, fairly reliable but nothing else. And that suped up MR-2 called the LF-A looks like a ricer's dream car!
jakemiller5000 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000
I am a bit on the fence about whether the LFA looks ricey on the outside but I don't think of it as a super ricer. This is the first car Lexus has ever made that's not intended to sell in big numbers and make loads and loads of money for Toyota (but $375,000, maybe the second thing is true). Anyways, time will tell whether it improves Lexus' charisma or not.
JaSt321 1 year ago
@JaSt321
Lexus doesn't make money on the LF-A given its past enormous development costs. They made this car to obtain credibility - but they won't get it from me. Deep down inside Lexus will always be a boring overpriced Toyota that was created for the gullible US market in order to make money. Lexus is a colossal failure in Europe and Asia. This poseur brand isn't even sold in South America or Africa (except South Africa). A true luxury brand is a GLOBAL PLAYER. Lexus isn't.
jakemiller5000 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000 shut ur mouth and stop spreading rumor, why do u waste ur and our time just to inform everybody that u dont like lexus, who gives a shit?
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@jakemiller5000 Hey,when the brain will come to your empty head?? A?? When you ever see Lexus-truck or Lexus-van or even worst Lexus-front wheel drive (A-klasse) come to spit on me!! Dont talk to me about premium klass couse if there is a car who must be its Lexus!! Its philosophy..,attention to detail,build quality and reliability are no matched!! When you see farmers and villagers driving Lexus,come to tell me!! Cant say the same for Merc and Audi...,its unique and flawless!!
eleonik76 11 months ago
@eleonik76
Diesel engines are "tractor engines"? You are a clear example of the typical Lexus: UNINFORMED ASSHOLES. Anyone who knows anything about cars will know that Lexus are overpriced Toyotas with boring design and a lot of marketing hype thrown along behind them. I have friends who were dumb enough to buy an expensive Toyota and these cars are not all what they're made out to be. Interior rattles, shitty quality and design, awful handling and overrated comfort. That's Lexus for you.
jakemiller5000 11 months ago
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@jakemiller5000 Man..,are you really soo stupid that you are not catching non of my irony??!! Do you know what is the definition of a premium luxury car?! How you can put Mercedes S 320 cdi ..Audi A8 3.0 tdi...,park it close to bank or theatre and listening to a sound coming like from a excavator?? Thats why Toyota made LUXURY BRAND-LEXUS,WHERE 16 ENGINEERS ARE WORKING ONLY ON THE ENGINE!!! THE CRAFTWORK THERE IS A JEWEL PIECE OF ART! BUT..WHAT I M LOOSING MY TIME WITH YOU..,GO FUCK YOURSELF!!
eleonik76 11 months ago
@eleonik76
You're a fucking idiot. You want to talk about refinement? What the fuck is so special about Lexus refinement when they offer a POS HS250h and CT200h with crappy Toyota 4-cylinders? Cut the fucking bullshit you cocksucking Toyota bitch. AFAIK the diesel S classes and A8 cars are very refined and smooth. I wouldn't know since I live in the US. Lexus is an overrated piece of shit brand. Their refinement is nothing special and it's all marketing hype. Lexus = bullshitters.
jakemiller5000 11 months ago
@jakemiller5000 Lexus is the most beautiful Luxury car making i've seen. They are well rounded, have simple controls, and have sleek styling. I like the IS250C a lot. It's a luxury convertible. Just because you hate Toyota, That doesn't mean you should announce to everyone that if you like Toyota (Lexus in this case) that they are............... whatever stupid, dumb, and idiot. You just don't do it
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@jakemiller5000 And people like you...,who will never affort this car,couse first there is no diesel version 2.0 with 5.5 per 100 km ,second nobody in the village will know what kind of car is that..,but..Mercedes is something else..,everyone knows it..::::))) thats why every villager will buy Audi TDI..Merc..diesel..,and Ford!! Couse these are the real farmer cars!! Villager cars!! When you hear Lexus LS or any..with working like a tractor engine..,come to tell me!!
eleonik76 11 months ago
@eleonik76
Hey dumbass, even if I had all the money in the world I'd never waste it on a piece of shit like a Lexus. Lexus and Toyota are the most overrated brands out there at the moment. And the fact that Lexus lacks diesels is one reason why their sales are pathetic in Europe. And do some research, moron. Lexus has a ton of FWD car like the Lexus Avensis, whoops, HS250h, the Lexus Matrix...shit, I mean Lexus CT200h and that glorified Toyota Camry called the 'Lexus ES". What a piece of shit.
jakemiller5000 11 months ago
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@jakemiller5000 What can i say...,would be waste of time to explane to a farmer like you or perhaps villager what is Lexus..,i gave you enough facts...The Lexus "Avensis" is just Toyota Avensis with the Lexus badge,meant to be more luxury but prised a little bit down than real Lexus..,just like Matrix..About overrating..,i can suggest you to click on the compare with the ols 400ls merc s klasse and 7 series..,and you ll see back then in 90 s with how many decades Lexus is ahead...poor farmer
eleonik76 11 months ago
@eleonik76
Wait a second...you're comparing the original LS400 to its original competition? LMAO!!! The original LS400 is the most overrated of all Lexus. It arrived in 1989 and competed against the Mercedes S class that was engineered in 1972-1979 and released on the market in late 1979. Facelift for that car was in 1985. So, the LS400 competed with a car designed in the 1970s. No fucking shit the LS400 would be more advanced. The W126 S class was at the end of its product life cycle in 1989!
jakemiller5000 11 months ago
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@jakemiller5000 Man..,since you live in US..,that changes everything...,you grow up with cars from the dino-stone age era,with engines like 5.2..,7.5 ..v8 and so on..,and hp like 87..220 NM..max speed 160 km..plus drum brakes allover...,but...,nice leather seats inside..,to wash up the shame;))) And when you have a chance to go close to European production you just cum in your pants;))) By the way..,are you still using Nokia 3220?? Do you have cameras on your phones yet?...Oh..poor american...
eleonik76 11 months ago
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@jakemiller5000 Hey boy..,i dont know how old you are..,but i had chance to drive most of the cars you will never touch..,since my brother is the second biggest car dealer..,so drive whatever you like,Mercedes..,Ford..Citroen..,anything!! Lexus overrated..,overprized..perhaps over-reliable too,since the top german road and service companies like TUV..,DEKRA,KUS..are putting it 6 years continiously on first place...,the germans!! Even in US!! If you live there you should know!! READ CUNT!! READ!
eleonik76 11 months ago
@eleonik76
Damn, you're seriously retarded. Which explains why you lust after some POS overpriced Toyota called "Lexus". Lexus is so gay. Seriously. What a POSEUR brand. When some asshole pulls up at a fancy hotel in a Lexus I have to make an effort not to laugh at his sorry retarded ass. Dumbass thinks he's driving something special when he's just in a glorified Camry with leather. Pathetic. And I don't give a shit about your Bulgarian mafia brother. How many girls has he raped? Fucker.
jakemiller5000 11 months ago
@jakemiller5000 you are a fucktard, you're a fanboy in the automobile world which is so dumb and retarded. I don't care whoever made the car, if the car is beautifully made than I will love and want it. I'm not a brand loyal monkey who find everything about his/her beloved brand superior.
ssj04 1 month ago
@jakemiller5000
Hey CrackHead5000, what going on???
How is your "Ancient" Pontiac 6000 going??
I just dont understand that a girl like you, has the nerve to go saying DUMB shit about a car that you TRULY couldn't to even afford let alone test drive it ,but on the other hand, you claim that your ANCIENT Pontiac 6000 is far more Superior than a current Lexus!!!
You need to get out of your mums basement!!
RAJSTA81 1 year ago
folks, please, don't argue in such rough manner about car makers. The car you buy is not a subject to be proud of that and fight with anyone near you (or very far :) ). It would be not a secret to know that different "braands" can be owned by same people.
seindich 1 year ago
JAKEMILLER5000
IS A BULLSHIT TALKING TROLL THAT KNOWS FUCK ALL!!
RAJSTA81 1 year ago
the back looks too much like a camry
andyass3 1 year ago
Not worth the extra cost over the LS460
TheVtieg6 1 year ago
i saw this vid where they were interviewing a rich Russian babe and the mercedes s-class broke down in the middle filming.
she then says that it happens all the time and yelled something to her chauffer. lol. this would never happen in a Lexus.
Descartes619 1 year ago
everyone knows MB had great reliability up until the early 90's when they decided that their cars was over engineer. so they cut cost to make more money and the reliability of the brand suffered... just two years ago they claimed to return to the reliability they had through the 80's and beyond.
all of this is a fact.
bkvintagecorp 1 year ago
all LS lowest grip
dragonfistSSJ4 1 year ago
bmw 7 series eats that boring lexus
L4TIn0St4NdUp 1 year ago
They should drop this and the LS460 and put the IS-F 5.0L engine in the LS and make that the stand alone model. The LS600h is SLOWER than the LS460, costs $35k more, and despite being a hybrid gets worse HWY MPG. I don't get it!
DJFG85 1 year ago
@DJFG85 and also....consider this....you will actually probably save more than $35K in gasolin cost...in the ls460....if you consider the life span of the vehicle...so it does not make much sense to own the hybrid for now....
joe700700 1 year ago
@DJFG85 that might be the next model........THE Ls 500 sounds very nice and has a ring too it ;]....ihope its 400+ hp and 400+ ibs ft of torque at least by 10 from the HP and is rated at 22 30 mpg i really really hope but i guess im asking to much
AdThaDon2k8 1 year ago
the design is easy
Toyota made it easy for itself , and hasn't thought about future design development
hehhe, we'll see ;P
bastardsen 1 year ago
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO jeeeesuuuus expensive but lvoley <3 i want, i have a es 350, as stated in my user name... i wanted the ls but i can't afford one. anyways im happy with my es anyways =D
lexusES350h 1 year ago
skyfaze: Of course, your automotive intellect far surpasses mine. Your intelligent application of "bitch ass nigguh," is a case in point. Go ahead and rate my comments down because all the yuppies get their feewings hurt when their overrated Toyota isn't admired by all the ditto heads that pray to Consumer Reports.
uncleflaco 2 years ago
Bree van De kamp ' S !
taspacklamubillia 2 years ago
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no reason to buy this over the maserati quattroporte. unless you really hate driving so much that you want a billion gadgets to make it seem like you're not...
the masa's the one to buy
coolerdude44 2 years ago
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Lexus/Toyota makes such boring cars. Life is too short and if I can afford it, then I'm buying the Cadillac CTS-V or Jaguar XF-R. The Japanese make incredibly stodgy cars; nothing exciting: even the GT-R from Nissan is ugly in terms of design. No thanks: a bloated Camry with hybrid platform. I'll wait for the Chevy Volt if I want green.
uncleflaco 2 years ago
your hilarious and clearly possess no knowledge of cars. This car does not compare wiht the CTS-V or XF-R its in the market for the 7 seris and S class or XJR . haha ps ur a fuckign faggot ass bitch ass nigguh
skyfaze 2 years ago
best car on the fucking planet!!!
zillsbury 2 years ago 2
older ls looks beter:)
dartasweideris 2 years ago
Toyota is getting back on track! And Lexus will never loose the reliability crown again!
02camry 2 years ago 3
they have ALWAYS been on track.
zillsbury 2 years ago 2
True... Can't argue with that one lol.
02camry 2 years ago
my dreams car
salahmunir 2 years ago 29
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And one more thing. My brother is a successful computer engineer in New York and he drives a Mercedes C300. No problems. The car is also a joy to drive (I've driven it a few times). His ex-girlfriend had a late 2007 Toyota Corolla automatic and that overrated piece of junk failed twice in one month due to transmission problems. So cut the fucking bullshit about how reliable Toyotas are. Their reliability advantage is so small, miniscule and just marginally better than their competitors IRL.
jakemiller5000 2 years ago
Ive had a bunch of Toyota's myself and they have had a lot of problems. Engine Sludge on my Highlander cost me $8,000 to fix.
VivaLaBamEpisodes 2 years ago
thats because you use cheap gas, and cheap non synthetic oil...idiot, and every so often add octane booster and a fuel traetment to your tank...and dont leave the car idling, its bad the environment and it allows alot of carbon build up (sludge) with-in the engine because its no being exahsted out.... happy driving
acuratlnigga 2 years ago 4
That's what i was thinking, non-detergent gas, and improper (or infrequent) oil changes probably caused your engine sludge. There hasn't been a sludge problem in engines (with recommended service) from any manufacturer for at least 15-20 years now
zero10iz 2 years ago
So true. Toyota has been cutting a lot. The newer Toyota Camry 3.5L V6 Engine was rated below average in reliablity.
CauseWereAsian 2 years ago
Toyota has denied the sludge problems in their transmissions or the rusting of their Tacoma / Tundra pickups. Eventually it got so bad that Toyota admitted these problems - and yet you have so many morons here babbling on about how reliable Toyota is and how everything else sucks. I have a Camry and Neon and the my Neon ownership has been more than satisfactory. Can't say the same for the "reliable" Camry, which by the way is so boring. If I was 90 years old maybe this car would be fun...
jakemiller5000 2 years ago
@CauseWereAsian I like Toyota... but the Camry is just pointless.
demonicreborn 1 year ago
@demonicreborn you mean boring....
joe700700 1 year ago
@joe700700 Yeah I suppose. By pointless, I mean that it's so boring that there's no reason really to buy it over an accord.
demonicreborn 1 year ago
True that, Toytota's reliability is only at the most a few percentage points above that of their competitors, but even one percentage point for a company that sells even a million vehicles (and toyota sells a lot more) is 10,000 cars.
zero10iz 2 years ago
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All those morons who claim Lexus reliability is so fucking good need a reality check. The latest reports have suggested that a Lexus has 4.5 problems per year and a Mercedes has 5.5 problems per year. WOW! What a big fucking difference!!! NOT.
Oh, and Consumer Reports is full of shit. I once read that they gave the Hummer H3 "poor quality" markings because of fuel economy. What the fuck does fuel economy have to do with quality?
The people who read Consumer Reports are idiots. Seriously.
jakemiller5000 2 years ago
fuel economy has alot to do with quality!...if an engine is consuming fuel like crazy then it isn't very efficient....and if and engine isn't very efficient then it's an engine that doesn't have much engineering in it..it is a primitive cheap engine that just wastes limited resources.
riomljr 2 years ago 3
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just to be honest, Lexus LS need more time and work to be compared with S-Class. Anyway, it's really great car as it self.
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Oh and this is sooo much more reliable considering that Lexus recalled 30,000 LS Models that could lead to a car fire.. It also recalled 125,000 GS models from 2006-2008. Lexus aint shit.. The S550 proves to be more reliable already..
EuroSport2006 2 years ago
Real? in December 2002, Benz S-class recalled 65000 defective vehicles that could also lead to fires while in 2006 (2/2/06), 36911 Benz CL class were recalled due to electrical wiring malfunctions and faulty trunk lid springs. The lexus GS recall was about 34000 (not 125000). I cant recall lexus recalling 30000 LS models. So benz vehicles aint that much reliable and a significant rip off.
7olusegun 2 years ago 3
Well it's said that a 5 year old LS 430 is like someone buying a 2009 BMW or MB off the lot "new" in terms of reliability! That says a lot! That means Lexus' don't have PROBLEMS! Damn the nonsense, I'd rather have a trouble free Lexus than the German brands ANY DAY! Plus I'm getting a LS 460 later this year myself! Yeah it's a Toyota underneath, so fu*kin' what?! IT WON'T BRAKE DOWN YOUR AZZ!
Sinosure 2 years ago
Funny thing is when MotorTrend tested the LS600h vs the S550 the Hybrid system in the Lexus over-heated and added 900lbs to the car. Good thing that the LS600h got 2mpg better than the S550. Mercedes and BMW are going to use a Lithium battery that has the same power and life as the 8 batteries that take up almost all the space in the truck of the LS600h. Good job I guess.
EuroSport2006 2 years ago
Ya. I "telling you" learn some english first. S550 is out of your reach as well as the LS600h.
EuroSport2006 2 years ago
Plus, its truck is filled with batteries.. What a shit hybrid. Good thing that BMW and Mercedes is making their models with lithium batteries. I can't remember if it was 1-3 batteries vs the tons of replacable batteries in the Lexus.
EuroSport2006 2 years ago
i'd take this car before the 745 and the s550..... we all know lexus is ten times more reliable the all the others...
bkvintagecorp 2 years ago 25
Yaa.. but lets look at how many generations Lexus has been copying the S550.. Its designs, technology, and interior styling. This tells you its copying from the best. You can try as hard as you can to talk shit about a S550 but its still out-sells, more technology, high quality and luxury, safer, faster, and handles better. You can say what you want about reliablility about the 750 but no complaints on the S550. People still GLADLY buy the S550 over the LS. Thats the sad part. LS is shit.
EuroSport2006 2 years ago
u could never compare a merc to lexus when it comes to reliability... never... i bet a camry and accords have far less trips to dealer than a s550.... if mercs have far better quality, why they dont have a better reliability than lexus... smh
bkvintagecorp 2 years ago
Well of course.. a Camry/Accord doesn't have 1% of the technology of a S550. Dont think Lexus is the best cause just recently they recalled over 500,000 GS models.
EuroSport2006 2 years ago
.ok so u telling me that the s550 is less reliable than an accord/camry b/c they dont have 1% of the technology lol...... really?
bkvintagecorp 2 years ago
The S550 also won green car of the year from the German TUV, due to it's small environmental impact, great emissions for it's class, use of green materials, and great mileage for it's class.
The LS600h has all the hype of being a hybrid, but none real life credibility. Toyota is known for peddling a "green" image with hybrids while making their real money on trucks and SUV's (Tundra, LX570). Why is Toyota doing so badly today? Truck sales are down.
The real 'green' cars are German.
fmilluminatus 2 years ago
@fmilluminatus there not so much Tundra, LX570 in germany compared to usa :)
seindich 1 year ago
A $104,000 Camry that babies old people too incompetent to park themselves and too stupid to know a steering or suspension from an earthquake during bingo night.
fmilluminatus 2 years ago
@bkvintagecorp Dunno where u get that from. Have had a S600 from 1992 since new and absolutly no major problems at all. There is no S550 btw. They are two of the most reliable cars ever. The lexus hasnt even been around that long to have it put to the test yet.
AndyWillow1989 1 year ago
@bkvintagecorp They alsoo put more tech into the Lexus the BMW of MB
IHeartMoney97 1 year ago
@bkvintagecorp thats like saying I like my girlfriend because shes punctual
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Everyone, please ignore below Jap(rctsos) comments. He is a idiot dumbass cocksucker who is a real embarassment to Japan nation. True Japanese think of garbage like him as someone who was abused and raped by his fahter and gay freinds when he was young. Please do not think he represents the majority of us Japanese. I apologize that they are so many gay faggot Japanese like him on youtube. I think it is a product of poor family up bringing and a homosexual complex. I am sorry.
dickyheadfall 2 years ago
Lol.. That's not nice! Evendoe..., I wouldn't mind driving the new Borego or, Amanti..., if you would've said Ford, Chevy or, Dodge..., I would've been alright with that! ;-)
BklynJayL 2 years ago
Toyotas hybrid drive is too heavy and complicated with large multiple motor generaters etc. Merc has followed the Honda version and uses a small electric motor within the S class gearbox housing, and a li-ion battery small enough to replace the lead acid under the hood, using an inverter to supply 12v to the cars legacy systems. Has start/stop, regenerative braking etc and adds little extra weight and takes up no extra space while supplying an extra 20Kw and a mountain of torque when needed.
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Pincylee 3 years ago
Those who said the "attention to detail inside is amazing" must be on crack. The Lexus LS has easily one of the cheapest interiors in its class. A lot of British, French and yes, even American reviews have stated this. Shiny silver plastic all over, uninspired door handle designs is called "amazing attention to detail" here? Huh? Look inside an Audi A8, Benz S class or the new BMW 7 series. Now that's attention to detail. The LS is a cheap imitation that is just plain overrated.
jakemiller5000 3 years ago
I couldn't agree more. I just can't stand people who get wet when they see a Lexus.
sspope 2 years ago
@jakemiller5000 if yoou are president or banker you could afford any detail (handmade bentley or even more) but if you choose car looking on your salary, you would choose one with loser price
japan cars made with robots - european need workers
(every lowest level japan car has an A/C but european is craap if cheap)
reviewer are calling them as a shit because west having a big impact from asian small people industry , now it started even in segment of luxury
seindich 1 year ago
@seindich
What the fuck are you trying to say? Learn to communicate in PROPER ENGLISH. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Oh, and the European car industry uses advanced robots in their production facilities at well. Where the fuck have you been for the last, oh, 40 years? Hell, even in the late 1960s the European car industry was depending more and more on robotics to help them produce cars. Cut the bullshit. Many Japanese cars in Japan don't have A/Cs. Big fucking deal.
jakemiller5000 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000 if i would talk in mother language, you have no chance to communicate (zB 5 falls more than in english) i think this way is better (i don't use rotten words)
in europe robots are used too ()
compare it to more crappy kia
youtube.com/watch?v=J6FnirdNbic&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=bU4PYiBnRyQ&feature=related
renault(clio) is a crap compared to nissan(ad) (jap. cars without a/c are very old or rear)
seindich 1 year ago
@seindich
Renault is crap? It's funny watching you Infiniti fanboys slam Renault while praising Nissan/Infiniti models with RENAULT ENGINES. That's right. Those new Infiniti diesels in Europe for example have "crappy" Renault diesel engines - which according to recent tests are EXCELLENT. Gosh, you remind me of that moron called RAJSTA81 who fucks his own brother in the back of his overpriced Toyota Camry (Lexus ES).
jakemiller5000 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000 i don't think the renault is something noticable, because have no possibility to see a lot of them on streets of europe russia or asia (i have not seen them in some way to remember that). may be they have some industrial success (and i can't know about that) but their cars are not the best. Yes, now toyota has become overpriced as any good car, that can make a concurrency. (Who would pay more for UNCOOL(far not MB) car if it bad)
seindich 1 year ago
@seindich
Renaults are sold in Asia, Africa the Middle East and South America. They're great cars. If you take a trip to North Africa for instance you will see a lot of older Renaults, Peugeots and Citroens (or Talbots, Simcas etc.) still running and soldiering on. The people who say French cars suck (morons like RAJSTA81 for example) are clearly clueless or listen to some bullshit biased publication like Toyota Reports (also known as Consumer Reports)
jakemiller5000 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000 Buddy why are you talking about Africa & the Middle East? You know you've never been outside of the trailer park you're from.
JaguarLexusCentral 1 year ago
@JaguarLexusCentral
Yawn. I've been around the world and seen places you can only dream about.
jakemiller5000 1 year ago
@jakemiller5000 I doubt that seeing that I have been all over the world in my over 15 years experience in the military fighting for 3 different countries. & it's like I told you before, a Toyota is better than Cadillac, so a car being a dolled-up toyota is a great thing!! You are not insulting anyone by stating that remark.
JaguarLexusCentral 1 year ago
Sinceramente este es un carro muy guapo fui a nicaragua y es lindo andar en un auto como este es bello. les saludo desde El pais de la aterna Primavera.. Guatemala,.,,,..
payolindo 3 years ago
I believe this Lexus is the first luxury hybrid ever made. Hybrids should be for the environment, not for your pockets. If people want a fuel efficient luxury car they can go LS460. The LS600HL may not save you much gas money, but it is better for the environment. Give Toyota credit, they built a very fine luxury hybrid.
heartlessvietboy 3 years ago 4
further proof that hybrid technology is nothing more than a gimmick at the moment. Gimme an s65 please.
samsemtex 3 years ago 2
The LS600 is in a class alone.
Lexus
Toyota4Life 3 years ago
yeah and that is the reason that whole GMC is on the edge beacouse of this economical crisis, and toyota is working full time...get a grip man...with all do respect for american brands you still have to admire these japs...and don't insult me...we're civilized grown ups here you know...you don't even know me
simmyludilo 3 years ago
nice car
mhwaad 3 years ago
i am gona buy one of these
islamissheaven 3 years ago
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I'd rather have a Linccoln MKS! ;-)
BklynJayL 3 years ago
Idioit lol.
Toyota4Life 3 years ago 3
Lexus has NOTHING on Cadillac&Lincoln!
BklynJayL 3 years ago
right
you keep thinking that....
Toyota4Life 3 years ago
I will. If you think Lexus is better..., you must believe in the Tooth Fairy, also, huh? ;-)
BklynJayL 3 years ago
Jesus Christ you sound like all the other arrogant promoters of Japcrap I've spoken to. Overpriced Camry's having nothing on American cars.
th3ha1og0d 3 years ago
"Over prcied camry has nothing on American cars"
Did you know that the Camry is the # 1 selling car in America ? HAHA
Ignorance is Bliss.
Toyota4Life 3 years ago
the camry is overpriced? haha, yeah exactly the reason why its the best selling car for well over a decade....because most americans love overpriced vehicles, right??
Gerren200 3 years ago
2008 cts shits on fucking camry.
lick my scrotum
th3ha1og0d 3 years ago
yeah, im sure it does. i mean the camry isnt a luxury vehicle and the cts is the best thing gm can come up with. and lick your scrotum? come talk to me when you buy one dumbass
Gerren200 3 years ago
k i'm talking to you.
th3ha1og0d 3 years ago
I'd rather drive a Kia than, a Toyota! ;-)
BklynJayL 3 years ago
obviously because you can't afford a toyota, let alone a lexus. dream on
YcanTDiz 3 years ago 4
That's because, Toyota/Lexus is waaay over priced for the low features they give you, in a car!
BklynJayL 3 years ago
buahahaha yea right and you're what? 12 years old and your daddy told you so...c'mon man everybody knows that the only two cars that you can compare to lexus are bmw and mercedes
simmyludilo 3 years ago
Yeah, you're right? The three auto brands that, have the MOST technology gliches, ever!
BklynJayL 3 years ago
You're an idiot to buy a Lexus! They have TOO MANY technical problems(like German cars). American luxury is the way to go! ;-)
BklynJayL 3 years ago
omg...you should see a doctor. Cause i think there is something seriosly WRONG with your brain by that comment you just made
Toyota4Life 3 years ago
I already saw the doctor and, he told me the samething! ;-)
BklynJayL 3 years ago
Just look at "Consumer Reports" you will find your answer there.
Lexus ever since its start has had the least problems reported than ANY other luxury manufacture.
Lexus has always been rated the highest in reliability and build quality.
I own a 98 Lexus Ls400 that has 137,000 miles as of today and not ONE thing has gone wrong or broke, NOT ONCE!!
So u can say what you want but the FACTS still speak for themselves.
P.S. Do your research before posting such ridiculous comments!
lexluthor400 3 years ago
Lexus JUST started making their vehicles with better quality ONLY a decade ago! Lexus was Notorious for transmission and, electric problems during the 90's! My girlfriend cousin's boyfriend just got rid of his 1995 Lexus LS400 because of, transmission problems and, he hid only near 130k., also. After the yr. 2000..., Lexus quality started getting much better...but, it's definitely, not the highest in quality. Even the Hyundai Genesis can compete with the LexusGS in quality and, powertrain!
BklynJayL 3 years ago
You can continue to say what you want! But you NEED to do some research look at "Consumer reports" magazine, how I'm i to believe you have a valid opinion when you say Hyundai has the same quality as Lexus.
As for your girlfriend's cousins boyfriend's uncle's nephew's Lexus your just making it up for the sake of this discussion. The first gen Ls400 ARE and HAVE been one of the top 10 most reliable cars EVER made, both tranny and engine are bulletprooof so I Dont believe you 1 second
lexluthor400 3 years ago
LMAO@"girlfriend's cousins boyfriends uncle's nephews"! I didn't say it like that! Anyways..., as far as, the Lexus LS400 being in the top10 cars ever made, out of ALL cars in the world? It must of definitely been #10(if ever on that list)out of that rating because, I don't believe that! Now...maybe, it was in the top10 relaible LUXURY vehicles but, we all know, the InfinityQ45 was better than, the Lex. LS400. ;-)
BklynJayL 3 years ago
the hyundai genesis can compete with the lexusgs??? since when did a car that starts at 27000 bucks compete with a car that starts around 40,000? never. that genesis is a very nice car, but its only been out for a year, while the gs has been made for about a decade...so good job comparing the two.
Gerren200 3 years ago
everybody knows american cars are unreliable, cheap, and have the most technical problems of all car makes....
and i hope you know that toyota makes lexus (toyota has the highest reliability ratings of all cars)....your belief that lexus has too many technical problems comes from where? your nationalist pride?
Gerren200 3 years ago
Lol.. Nationalist pride? That was hilarious!!! You can look on old articles in the Consumer Reports magazine, on the internet and, you'll see, most people complained about technical problems in Lexus vehicles. It ain't nothing cheap about American luxury cars but, the price because, it's domestic! Technical problems, NONE! Only in foreign cars(Lexus, Merc-Benz and, BMW) Audi and, Infinity is ok! Everybody knows, Americans make the MOST reliable cars from half-tons to Vans to small cars!
BklynJayL 3 years ago
I heard that the 0-60 was 5.5
alexkvaskov 3 years ago 2
They are talking down on the car
when really this car is in a class by itself!!!
Best Luxury Cr On The Road.
they did not even talk about its luxury or anything..
bullshit review
Toyota4Life 3 years ago 3
This is bullshit review. Its from Edmunds. Edmunds hate Japanese Automakers. I really hate edmunds. They only makes stupid reviews.
Dont ever watch this bullshit video. Guys, watch it other than (Edmunds' Inside the Line) because the real facts is that Lexus ls600h have gain the title for being the most Luxury and the most hightech Car in the world.
Again, this video is a BULLSHIT.
KevinKishimoto 3 years ago 2
I agree. I notice this in many Japanese reviews they do seems like all they can talk about is the neagtives of them. U can tell how bias they are, there are videos saying how good the car is...then you have this video that make the car seem like its not good. When some people would kill to own a car like this.
This would be my Luxury car no matter how bad they try to make it look.
The LS600 is in a class alone.
Lexus
Toyota4Life 3 years ago
Hell yeah man! I would kill somebody to get this car! Edmunds only making a bullshit about Japanese cars.
Because theyre jelous, thats why theyre making a stupid comments about it. What a Germans have? nothing! thats right nothing.
All germans do is copying Japan's technology and call it their own FUCKING DESIGNS!
Even on the car magazines They say that Lexus is the most reliable company that people can trust, not only they gives us a great service, but also a great value of The True Luxury.
KevinKishimoto 3 years ago
Its so hard thats what she said and annoying to convert 07 MPG to 08.
bg1379 3 years ago
LS600hybrid isn't trying to achieve a stunning MPG here.
It's a V8 engine that makes V12 power from a V6 MPG(fuel consumption)
cirenow 3 years ago
cirenow:
> LS600hybrid isn't trying to achieve a stunning MPG here.
It's a V8 engine that makes V12 power from a V6 MPG(fuel consumption)
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That's exactly the point of this car.
theannoyingdogpoo 3 years ago 3
Your correct
Inside Line has ot all wrong
Toyota4Life 3 years ago
agree
simmyludilo 3 years ago
People, The lexus hybrid features a great range of other features such as collision avoidance, parking system n so on.
dont look at this biased report focussing on only mileage and speed. If thats what you want just go buy a toyota prius which comes at 21000 USD.
I dont like the styling of lexus, mercedes c class is way better in looks, but feature wise, lexus is the best value
Tomahawk1999 3 years ago
This Lexus is the best luxury car in its class bar none. I will have no problem showing this car off and comparing it in person to the S class and 7 series. Dont listen to the bias reviews. This car parks itself, and practiccaly drives itself. The technology and luxury is amazing. Attention to detail and quality is true luxury, not price.
heartlessvietboy 3 years ago 4
خلفهم 460
صراحه سياره تستاهل بس لو سعرها مناسب كان مضبوط
abuomar808 3 years ago
This is America, English please.
kodiak410a 3 years ago
Edmunds missed the entire point of this car. It's for wealthy and discerning drivers who commute from big cities that have HOV lanes that allow hybrid registered vehicles to use quicker HOV lanes so that they can get home faster to their families. That it goes slightly slower and/or faster in measured tests or gets slightly better or worse mpg matters little. If you spend an hour extra per day with the kids, it's worth every penny extra the car costs.
redcarsarasota 3 years ago
Let me get this straight... it's for 'decerning' drivers who are stupid enough to pay $25,000 more for a car that does less, and arrogant enough to think they should be allowed to use the carpool lane because they have a "hybrid" which pollutes more than the Mercedes S550? Yea, real 'dicerning'.
Where do you Lexus people come up with this nonsense? There is nothing to 'dicern' about Lexus but green hype, feature bloat, and self-parking for people too pathetic to drive on their own.
fmilluminatus 2 years ago
Its technology man.
LexusISF2009 2 years ago 3
So what's the point of it ? It's not faster than the LS460 and not very fuel efficient yet costs 40% more than the LS460 ... Let's what Audi will do when they put their V12-TDI in the next gen A8 :)
astraBG 3 years ago
obviously, 600l is a limo version. So without the hybrid the mpg would've been worse. It costs more because it is stretched version, adds hybrid for more torque and few other extras.
cirenow 3 years ago
It IS faster than an LS460l. Also, it introduces more technological features. And you should compare it to the price of an LS460l.
bg1379 3 years ago
great car
stupidenuff 3 years ago 4
The toyota Sold from the U.S is 76% of the parts which enter into "Made in China"
But the toyota CAR which is sold from japan uses the japanese parts.
An American and japanese it discriminates by the same toyota car.
NAGOYANdirty 4 years ago
the reviewer ends the review with a stupid comment. If I were in charge at Lexus I'd make sure that his company doesn't review any of our vehicles from here on out.
Thermactor 4 years ago
Good point, if people are honest about the overpriced crap that Lexus makes, Lexus should just not let them talk about it anymore. As much as I would love to have no one review Lexus anymore (after all, only idiots like you drive Lexus's, and idiot's don't care about reviews when they can just ape everything Lexus marketing says), it's not up to Lexus who reviews their cars. Edmunds can just buy one and review it, Lexus has no legal authority to stop them.
fmilluminatus 2 years ago
This is a very bias video review.
dopp22 4 years ago 5
This car has been out a few months now. I still don't think people are getting the point behind this car. This car was aimed at a demographic of buyers who couldn't care any less about its price being "justified" or not. People with enough money to even consider this $100K machine don't care that it's no faster than a regular LS, they're paying for the higher status of the "600" badge, the same way S600 buyers have for years over the "500" and "550."
webran61 4 years ago 3
I still think the price tag is too high, but the video seems to be discounting the car's AWD. Around where I live, AWD would be a huge advantage.
a6m50 4 years ago
if this car was priced significantly lower than an S Class, i'd understand. why own this, when you could pay a bit more for an S class...the car that pioneers almost every feature you'll find in cars 10 years down the road. truth is, you're buying a toyota in a tux. great reliability, but when you step inside, or even glance from the outside, every component screams toyota. but to each his own.
asifyouforgot 4 years ago
Edmunds made an error in their review, however, comparing 2007 vs. 2008 EPA ratings. On average, the LS 600h L does get better fuel economy than the LS 460 L.
Stratoliner777 4 years ago
Uh... I'd rather save 30K and get the LS460L. Its priced lower and gets better fuel economy. Mercedes S class V12 and Lexus LS600 don't need to exist in the 1st place. They think people will waste money on V10 and V12?
DreadRaptor85 4 years ago 3
the LS600 is waste of money because the lexus LS460 is enough...
xxunidentifydude 4 years ago
claro uqe justifica su precio, aparte de su increible lujo, ofrece lo mejor en tecnoogia, si este no justificca el precio como dicen, muchisimo menos los mercedez que cuestan 120000 dolares, o que, solo por ser aleman debe costar eso. lexus le patea el rasero a mercedez a bmw, a audi, etc
greatmustis 4 years ago
totalmente d acuerdo en los bmw audi o mercedes se paga la marca en muxos casos, con los coxes japos se paga la calidad
lucasmadrid 4 years ago
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this car doesn't justify its price at all! what i don't understand is how they could possibly execute it this badly. it doesn't have any performance increase over the LS460L. but don't let that fool you- it doesn't get any better gas mileage, either. what a waste of an extra $35K. just give me an s550, loaded.
elif912 4 years ago
Are you a Merc owner, I've owned them and the S-Classes are a waste of $80K-$130K, what a piece of crap. Visited the shop too many times, almost sued them twice! I own a 2003 Lexus LS430, almost 5 years now since new, and I had nothing, I mean nothing wrong with this car, besides oil changes and regular maint. Lexus's are way better than your over priced