Middle East - Part02 Israel - 2009 - Ross Kemp - 05v05 - 00.34.00 tm 00.44.00.avi

[steviemufccfc]

eventhough the woman at the end lost her daughter shes still an idiot she says that everybody focuses on the Palestinians misery and their hatred for the jews brought them to the situation their in. I dont think she has ever read a newspaper or watched the tv in her life between the 27th december 2008 and the 18th january over 1300 palestinians were murdered bye their jewish/Iraeli opressers to the 13 the Palestinian factions killed.

[mrfrosty8172]

/watch?v=ApGnV4pYhug

the more fundamentalist jews chase out morgan spurlock

[mrfrosty8172]

4:08

i suggest everyone watch "Where in the world is Osama Bin Laden" by morgan spurlock (of course it was made a few years ago!)

he tries to interview a bunch of orthodox jews, but an angry mob forms around him pushing and screaming at him with a old guy pushing him telling him to leave but he cant get to his car cuz the old man is in the way lol... eventually israeli security forces show up with AKs and get him to safety. before a full blown riot starts.

[sweenkingandwow2]

the israeli's have been persecuted more by the arabs then arabs by israeli's

[vanbasten85]

Reply to (dalmes) u atheist right? so u shouldn't comment about nothing. Because it's what you believe, in nothing right? Sorry one second my phone is ringing! It's nothing and he says he knows you. Hahaha. You gotta believe if you didn't you are not human and you should not be here you should be in atheist planet maybe it's mars, where there is life.lolllol.

[vanbasten85]

Palestine never existed and never will. google it and see for yourselves. The Romans when they conquered Israel changed the name from jerusalem to Palestine to anger the jews because they didn't agree with the roman laws. They are Arabs from Saudi, Iran, iraq and all the other arab nations. But the world doesn't won't recognise it because they will lose their precious oil.

[vanbasten85]

Why Is everyone talking about peace when God said there will never be peace, are we too blind to see it. my grand parents lived nearly 90 years and they saw no peace nothing has changed we are living in this generation of peace talkers which the bible claimed, by peace( talk,agreements etc, many will be deceived. How many times have we seen Jewish politicians and Arabs shaking hands hundreds of times but still no peace.

[shaycenter]

Can't you see?? This conflict is Muslim and Jew. OK there are small issues about us grabbing all their land. Building a wall around their area. Treating all of them like animals ... Israel the only claimed democracy in the region can vote to have a government fair to the other side. See we can do something about that, but we elect people that will treat the other side like animals. But why cant we have peace

[shaycenter]

Why do they hate us???? It's all about Khate!! OK our elected representatives can't help concentrating people in camps and stealing land. Why can't they accept it peacefully Whaaa Whaaa look at my tears. My parents came from Europe and they had to build our house with their hands. Can't they see building on other people's land is not easy. Whaaa Whaa Whaa

[sarethums]

every time he says 'do you think' it sounds like he says 'jew think'

[izaccy]

Is not as complicated as i thought..

secular Jews, and secular Palestinians MUST eliminate extremist Jews and extremist Palestinians !

[peacenowar1234]

Oh okay then, so its alright for them to accompany and make a big thing about the death of an israeli settler.. yet when it comes to the heartbreaking interview with the palestinian orphans in part one- they dont go in depth?

OH HOW I WISH PPL WOULD JUST GET A GRIP NOW I SWEAR TO GO DIM SO TIRED OF ALL THIS BLIND IGNORANCE.. the answer is blatant and in your face.. face it. i just want the promised day to come sooon.. ITS BEEN GOING ON FOR TOO LONG!

[MsJoeyboii]

@peacenowar1234 they are both heartbreaking. stop trying to turn a decent documentary into a conspiracy

[JimmyHoffa24]

Religion, when will it ever be overcome..

[missperson]

Why didn't he speak to the ultra orthodox Jews? I’m sure they would have told him a thing or two about Israel. I didn't really see destroyed houses in Israel, and everyone seemed to be continuing with their lives, they are able to live in there illegal stolen houses quite peacefully. If you look at Palestine it doesn't take long to see destruction everywhere and yet they want peace, so who are the terrorist?

[1VDGayaH]

@missperson

Hamas are the terrorists.

[sadekgheidan]

@1VDGayaH You seem to be a little dumb or are you just blind to the facts?

[1VDGayaH]

@sadekgheidan

Maybe both ... why do you ask?

[sadekgheidan]

@1VDGayaH Just wondering why you can't understand Action-Reaction and justice.

[Jibriil87]

@missperson How stupid are you? Didnt you understand anything about the program? It's people like you that wants conflict... Apprently you are so ignorant that you don't even know how Israel was created, cause i do and they were more worse than the palestinians themselves, do you really think that Israel was created throu peacefull means? Cause it didnt, it was an armed conflict....

[07dowlingj]

@missperson if israel laid down their arms it would be destroyed if the arabs laid down their arms their would be peace. palastine is poor becuase hamas wants it to be poor they are a terrorist organization hate 'and prejudice runs through their veins... id take a jew over a a muslim anyday...

[spynu85]

1 one musulman araby give dislike at this video!!! Israel NEVER will die,it is write...!!!

[spynu85]

Viva Israell !!!!from Romania aliat

[maximus0307]

thats b.s, none of the arab shown said they hated jews, they all said they hate that their land is being occupied and their relatives and economy destroyed, israelis always yell for antisemitism. they have the power to stop this but they wont they always want more land....

[moccasin10]

there is no easy solution to this situation,even people commenting fight about it,In nearly all of the troubles around the world,apart from oil and land,rligion rears its sometimes ugly head,maybe both sides have valid arguments but extremists just muddy the water for their own agendas

[Dalrado]

Muslim and Jews dont hate eachother, the hate is not about the religion IT IS ABOUT THE LAND and how they treat poor palestinians...

[pyrohoboy]

And mine can be summed up as: Down with Terrorism and teaching hate.

[pyrohoboy]

@NebulousEsoteric No the intent behind your comment about wanting a holocaust wasn't very clear, and personally i found it very distasteful. How can a side who is under attack put down its weapons? The minute they put down their weapons they will be destroyed. Israel is a country and they have a right to defend themself. I don't see there being peace until the terrorist groups realise what they are doing to their people, and until the kids are stop being taught by blood

[pyrohoboy]

@NebulousEsoteric Israel aren't killing Millions. You have to realise it's not all Israel, they don't just run up and down the streets screaming and shooting, they go after terrorists, they have an enemy who attack them. Palestine was named by the romans before they threw the Jews out so they have lived in Palestine. They haven't occupied the land- they were given it in 1948. Why can't the Palestinians live in a country called Israel?

[pyrohoboy]

@NebulousEsoteric I think for their to be any real strides for peace, both sides need to put down their weapons. Violence begets violence, and the terrorism only causes the Israeli's to become resentful against the palestinians and when they are forced to retaliate that causes the palestinians to become resentful. I just really hope both sides learn what peace is oneday.

(also your comment wasn't very clear.)

[pyrohoboy]

@NebulousEsoteric You do realise Palestinians are semites too? Unless you meant a holocaust for both sides, then I couldn't criticise you for being even in your punishment. Although I would still accuse you of being horrible person only wanting to carry on the needless cycle of pain and death. Another holocaust wouldn't sort anything out.

[Vandoren333]

Well,I saw both parts...Imho,It's worst Ross film ever.And i'm sorry for people who thinks that after waching this movie they knew something about this conflict.It's not documentaty,but biased movie.

[1VDGayaH]

@Vandoren333

Prove that it is a biased movie!

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Can you give links to better docu's, docu's that are not biased movies?

What is the most import thing to know about this conflict in your honest opinion?

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[Vandoren333]

@1VDGayaH Sorry,I have no time coz it's long conversation,but i don't blame Ross for it.Comparing with others british films about Israel especially from BBC it's not bad at all.

I can recomend to you doc.movies of Leonid Mlechin (Леонид Млечин) he's respected historical and made great movies and talk shows about history.I hope you can find english subs also.

[HATEtoFeel1]

@1VDGayaH Damn right, Ross Kemp presents some of the most unbiased work I've ever seen.

[tSp289]

@Vandoren333 Who's it biased towards? Seems on each programme there are people convinced that he's biased, but they contradict each other on whose side he's taking.

[timkul76]

what both countries need is peace and love

[BENREDARES]

THANKS.WATCHED IT ALL.

[thetrueturnip]

I like how Ross sits at the end like he's had a long hard think and then says the most obvious thing. And yeah I feel bad for the women at the end but that's exactly how every Palestinian mother who's lost kids feels.

[TheCesny]

how can someone still say that israelis' army are protecting their country when he saw what's happening to the Palestinians on the other side?

Mr Ross Kemp, I don't think you are stupid...could you explain that to me?

[pyrohoboy]

@TheCesny Hamas don't care about life except their own, and killing as many Israelis as possible is what they are about. Whether you agree with it or not Israel is a country since 1948 and has had to fight wars with surrounding countries very often, now they are fighting a war with terrorism. They aren't targetting the ordinary palestinian civillian but the terrorists. The army is there for protection, I met a Druze who fought in the IDF and he said he did it to protect his country and family.

[TheCesny]

@pyrohoboy Everybody knows the truth now about zionist in israel and what they'r doing to Palestinians and their land, except the pro-israelis who are listening to israelis' propaganda...

[Ihateyoucritic666]

@TheCesny Thats not a fair statement to make, you're being bias and anyone can see you're pro-palestinian and most likely support terriorist organizations like Hamas. Once Hamas took power, Palestinians starting sending rockets into isreal, why? I know, not all Palestinians are terriorists or bad people, but if they refuse to speak up, in my eyes they're just a guilty as those commiting suicide attacks and killing innocent people.

[TheCesny]

@Ihateyoucritic666 and you dare asking why? Let me tell you why theyr no terrorist.

Israel has been killing lots of ppl, men, women, children for more than 60 years now.

Israel is chasing the palestinians out of their house and destroying them 1 by 1 just so they can build whatever they want.

Israel is kicking the palestinians out of what was once Palestine for no other reason that they want the land.

Israel is starving the ppl in Gaza today with their blocus and stop them having a normal life.

[Ihateyoucritic666]

@TheCesny We can point our finger right at England, becuase they started this infighting between jews and palestinians, by promising each a right to land in the 1940-1950s. England decieved both nations and just wanted their support against Nazi Germans... You have clear hatred towards jews, you cannot be objective on this war..

[TheCesny]

@Ihateyoucritic666 no england gave the land to the zionist jews (I don't have anything against jews some are very nice) in 1917 smthing like that, the problem is that the palestinians were there already and then the americans took command in 1946 and gave a military power to those zionist jews so they started to kill the palestinians when they refused to leave the country. So before to point ur finger go learn your lessons.

[Ihateyoucritic666]

@TheCesny The Palestinians were from neighbouring nations; like Egypt, syria, and jordan according to my research. A population of Arabs and Jews shared the land, unitil world war 2 broke out between Nazi Germany and the world. England asked both citizens of this land;Jews & Arabs to join forces to combat Nazi Germany. In return, England would give the land to Arabs and Jews. Like I said before, both were deceived by England.

[TheCesny]

@Ihateyoucritic666 what your saying now doesn't make sens....

[Ihateyoucritic666]

@TheCesny cont: However, England does not want to take responsible for their lies and so they pass on the blame onto the Americans!! Americans may have taken command of the land, but the damage was already committed by England. You need to learn your lessons before you start being bias against one nation and exlcudeing the other nation, be objective!!! Don't forget Nazi Germany killed millions of Jews and targeted jews only.Also Nazi Germany were allies with many muslim nations!!

[TheCesny]

@Ihateyoucritic666 What lies are you talking about? Palestinians have nothing to do with the nazis this is a fake excuse. You are not objective and would say anything to not admit that what's happening in Israel today is wrong.

[Ihateyoucritic666]

@TheCesny I didn't say Palestinians were involved with Nazis, I said they were recruited to fight against Nazis, along with the Jews. I'm objective, not bias. I've been to Isreal in person, I seen first hand the agression Arabs are towards Jews.

[TheCesny]

@Ihateyoucritic666 I just saw on ur profile that u'r a greek living in America...It look to me that your swimming in american/zionist propaganda and don't know anything else. I would recommand you to go on Democracynow's website if u don't know if you want to see something different, it's allways good to have different opinions. They got a lot of documents and videos about the israelo/palestinian conflict.

[Ihateyoucritic666]

@TheCesny Yes, I'm Greek and live in the US. I also have lived in Canada. I'm not some dumbass individual, who doesn't recognize propaganda tactics or doesn't have an opinion about the isreali/arab conflict. So, because I don't agree with your views, I'm brainwashed with zionist propaganda? so I can say you're brainwashed with terriorist propaganda?

[TheCesny]

@Ihateyoucritic666 Yes you can say whatever you want and Yes you are brainwash or worse you agree with what's happening and just trying to make up excuses and that would be cowardness.

[Ihateyoucritic666]

@TheCesny Listen if you want to debate this topic, no problem! But stop projecting your negative feelings onto me. You clearly expressed your dislike for the Jews, this is why you accused me of being brainwashed in zionist/american propaganda.Also, stop using generalization or judegment tactics on me. Don't just look at palestinians as a victim, they murder jews everyday with their terrorist attacks. Plus, Hamas is a recognized as a terriorist worldwide!!!

[safaakb]

@Ihateyoucritic666 please people when u don't know history don't invent one from ur own imagination, read before u state any thing as fact

[skharf]

(continue..) and therefore its natural for them to retaliate negatively, when they cannot choose to move in or out of their city, have the food they want, or even to come back to know if their house or family members are still there or not. The children suffering in gaza is not the same with Israeli children.. and that shows the reality of the condition and state on both side.

[Vandoren333]

@skharf Yes it's what this film try to say,but sadly thing for people who trust to Ross that is not reality.You in UK have very left-wing media and maybe if Kemp try to say something different not pro-israeli,but neutral,he will have problems with his job.

[skharf]

Watching both parts of Ross Kemp video on both sides of conflict, you just have to see the state that their both living in and its obvious from the background that israeli are living a normal lives, with jobs, houses therefore its easy to 'move on' however for the Palestine and especially the children who saw their family being killed, their environment torn apart, no proper education, jobs, or even houses to live in, obviously it will be harder for them to 'move on'.

[pyrohoboy]

@skharf Do you know that Gaza gets more aid per capita than anywhere else in the world- And they get a heck of a lot of money. However look who is in charge of Gaza- Hamas. They spend the money on buying weapons and building a solid infra structure so that the Palestinians can start to build a proper place to live in instead of living off the aid.

Israelis also saw family members killed and maimed, but as I see it one side is brought up in a loving environment and another in a hate filled one.

[pyrohoboy]

@pyrohoboy (continue) which is why one side finds it easier to move on (because they don't hate the other side) and the other side can't and carry out actions which only serve to make the hate grow.

[alseenpotvis]

@skharf ....

Maybe Palestinians are way too busy fighting, than to rebuild their nation....Their blinded with hate and will keep fighting...

Israel is way more civilized. They have everything a modern nation should have... in most Arab country's they still behead people, do suicide bombings, throw rocks and just behave like a bunch of morons! They seriously need to get with the world and civilize instead of living life in a hatred that was written in a fuckin book....

look at the difference

[LudiloBesa993]

@skharf Can u give me a link to a first part within Palestinians ?

[smegnose]

There's no such thing as negotiating with religion. Religion is an absolute.

[XtcRaver420]

Ross Kemp does some amazing work

[Ialocin85]

after seen this doc im still pro Israel. the arabs dont want peace and thats their problem. We have a lot of palestinians in my country. they steal, rape and stab. They dont work. I have not yet seen a palestinian work. I see them on the street in a gang, and they say our women dress like whores. if you dont like it here, go home to your shithole!

[haqzuk]

@Ialocin85 really? even though the jewish settlers in the west bank that are breaking international law; creating tension; and u expect peace

[1VDGayaH]

@haqzuk

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What do suggest then? Lots of Jewish children are living there, and you know what? Those children are living on the ground they where bourn on! So what do you suggest really? Maybe the deportation of those Jewish children?

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[paydae]

@1VDGayaH well....... yes

[1VDGayaH]

@paydae

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Then you have to realize you have to kill them all first!

Any idea how Israel will react if you try?

[alxjordy]

@paydae UNSOLVABLE ! ! !

[evala]

what a wise man is the one interviewed in this part

[topi85]

Thanks for posting!

[artty77]

Thanks for the great documentary Mr. Kemp and Thanks to 1VDGayaH for posting it!

[19996669991]

It is not about muslim/jew. It is about land. The zionists want to take the emphasis away from the fact that they are living on stolen land and want to turn it into a holy war with them defending themselves from fundamentalist islam. Arabs and jews live together peacefully in many other countries with no problems at all.

Another good documentary fron RK. He explains things in a simple, careful manner and you get the idea that he really is impartial.

thanks for posting.

[whatageeza]

@19996669991 It is not as simple as you seem to think. Maybe you should watch these programmes again and try to understand.

All I can say is there has never been a Jewish suicude bomber attempting to murder my fellow citizens.

[haqzuk]

@whatageeza its because their not the ones being surpressed

[Perfectserious]

@19996669991 stolen land ? then give America back to the indians thief!

[ParaCheng]

@Perfectserious u mean native amreicans right? ;)

[ParaCheng]

@Perfectserious u mean native americans right? ;)

[swiss2301]

@19996669991 "stolen land"? what do you realy know about the history of Israel? apparently not much, but i dont blame you you are just another consumer of an industry of lies my roots goes very deep here in the land of israel. but since i dont expect you to acknowledge that fact, just come here with a spade pick a rendom spot and start digging soon enough you will bump into an ancient Jewish city. we cant steal our home.