@benzaie thats not a mistake. while he he had a hand in writing the song the original one is nothing like my way..paul anka wrote MY WAY so probaly you are the mistake.please fix that!!!
@Ornancopter i didnt actually like marco's cover of the song phantom of the opera, he simply dont have what it takes to sing that song, because it require more passion and commitment to sing that song, marco should sing it like he REALY was the phantom of the opera ,to sing like phantom you must feel pain.love sadness,despair,and sing like a god and as a ghost, be an arcitect, illusionist,feared and hated and more , the man to sing that song must be a geni, sry bad english im from norway ^^
yak, yankees with their f' opinions of the other people of the globe, so you are alone there, have fun with yourselves...and shoot all the others..at least try to cope
It's unbelievable! No matter witch song, witch genre or whatever these guys always make a great or even better cover of it, but unfortunately that's all they do.
@me1yu really? That really sounds amazing... I know he plays left handed with right handed instruments :)
I must admit I am not a fan of Ahola, in spite I admit his talent. I started listening to the Northern Kings because of Hietala,who I admire because of his work on Tarot and Tony Kakko, from Sonata Arctica. But good to know that :)
@GiannsmitH: Yeah, this is Sinatra, you didn't have to be that surprised, it is a bit obvious.
@omgeveryname : Scandinavians just take classical music, and chant/singing lessons more seriously than most of other countries.
@hibyeeee2 : Obviously he did, it is impossible to sing like that without singing lessons. THe best level you could reach without lessons and study would be something like Dave Mustaine.
@gabrielstatus Sounds amazing, but actually you can read from various articles that Jarkko Ahola is a self taught vocalist and musician, who has never taken any singing or other instrumet lessons. But then you can actually guess something like that from his acoustic guitar and bass palying in some other videos. He is left handed, but plays right handed intstruments left handedly upside down.
@hibyeeee2 of course his voice is amazing. he's a PROFESSIONAL METAL SINGER. of course... and... let me know that... it's impossible not falling in love with his voice
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wow this an awful cover, probablly do in fact that it rips the song of its personality and genuine feeling and replacing it with gothic-y melodrama and operatic over emoting. i guess the best or worst thing you can say about it is it hardly sounds anything like the original
You also said that when the compositions containing lyrics were played as instrumentals, instruments took the vocal parts. They don't form words, but a melody in a certain tone. Which I think was kinda BrokenBjartur's point all along.
I think it's in human nature to always find a song they can attach too when something in their life moves them emotionally, from anything in the world to the love life. That's where i think the lyrics get in.
I must say. That you Peter0ctavium are sadly mistaking.
I think BrokenBjartur proved his point with:
Voice = instrument
Lyrics = literature
As he said lyrics don't determine rhythm nor tonality that is what the voice does.
You said yourself that the human voice is an INSTRUMENT. Meaning you can sing kinda whatever you like because youre still singing in the same melody and tone.
They're all arguably the most impressive singer in the group. That's what makes this band cool. He is underrated, I do like this cover, but Marco is my favorite.
Petty is not even an accurate musical critique. And you're saying the rest of the song is great but you have a problem with one second of it? Talk about being petty.
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That 'one second' is musically retarded. If you listen, closely for some it appears, he's fucking off-key.
They make a huge fucking deal about showing how well they can sing, but have an off-key vocal in a fucking studio version. That's outright pathetic. Besides the software one can use to fine-tune vocals, they still could have tried it enough times until it would have been perfect. This is, of course, if they are even able to detect it.
You should probably stick to your auto-tune artists and other overproduced living computers and leave real music to those that are able to feel and live it.
There is a such thing called interpretation and "mistakes" that are left there on purpose just for the sake of it.
Your concept interpretation is that of post-modern philosophy. But generally = the rendering of a dramatic part, music, etc, so as to indicate one's particular view of it. You can't sing or play music without interpretating it. It is the way it comes out, there's nothing over-thinking in that. It's music lived, here and now.
The way you interpret music depends also on the genre. Some insist on exact accuracy, some others crave for attitude and feeling. Metal belongs mainly to the latter.
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That is utter and complete bullshit.
That may be the instant with most people who 'claim' they like music, but it is wrong.
What I like about music is exactly what I hear. It has nothing to do with attitude or any genre. There are people who are the way you say, who either seek attitude or 'order', but those don't really like music. They only like the idea of music. An art form they 'claim' to be a part of.
So, you listen to music because it can be a pleasant background noise? That just happens to be one part of what music. Have you ever really listened to the lyrics of this song or any song? Most of them tell a story or have a form of meaning put in them. If that is how you feel about music, you should probably just be listening to some orchestral scores. Oh wait, you wouldn't even be able to do that because those are meant to convey emotion in the person listening.
I hate when people bullshit about 'feelings' and 'meaning' when they talk about music. Music has been infected by people who don't actually listen to music, but either listen to it because someone else listens to it, or just because they want to be a part of an art form.
I'm sick, weary, jaded, you fucking name it, of assholes like you who run around bitching about lyrics and hidden fucking meanings. Go fuck yourself you infesting parasite.
Nor did I say that lyrics was music, I simply stated that it was just a piece of what music is. I didn't say anything about hidden messages or anything of the sort. I said that most music tells a story about something and you can't deny that. The story may have no meaning to you and that's fine. Just because it has no meaning to you does not mean that it has no meaning to anyone else.
It can't have a definitive meaning or story, as meanings and stories told by arts (besides the blatantly obvious arts like literature) are subjective. You may derive a meaning or story from it, but do not state that it has to have it. Some make music just for the love of the music, not including any message, meaning or story. I can have a euphoric experience when I listen to music. Nothing goes through my mind a such points. I do not think. I just listen, and feel the extacy
And lyrics aren't a part of music. I don't care how long they have walked hand in hand through time. Lyrics aren't music, nor are they a part of music. Although, lyrics are needed to accompany the voice, instead of it just babbling gibberish. The content of the lyrics are of no importance to music, whatsoever.
"I do not think. I just listen, and feel the extacy "
"I hate when people bullshit about 'feelings' and 'meaning' when they talk about music."
Ok you hate yourself, and you don't know nothing about music, if this song were composed without lyrics nobody would listen it because melody is beautiful but repetitive.
Nobody would listen to it because the majority of people who listen to music don't really listen to music. They either just listen to it because they want to be like other people, or because they want to be connected to an art form.
So?? They have another interest.... being a music fundamentalist doesn't give you the right to comment about the others
But there is something funny called friendship, i guess you really don't have friends, but it is when you know people and you have common interest, sometimes this people make you listen his music and you like it, or not, but people connect that way, and they are happy.... you should try it before complain about everything
What tha fuck? How did you make this about friendship and happiness?!
To be honest, even though I have friends, few share the exact musical interests I have. It's pretty annoying that I don't know anyone (IRL) that likes what I like. Sure, my friends all like e.g. A7X, but not always for the same reasons I do.
But it's a trivial annoyance. I am content with liking the music on my own. It's actually the only place I can go by myself. So in a sense, I'm glad that I can have it by myself.
That's in the same sense as subtitles are a part of a movie, and music is a part of a video game.
It's not something that really governs the musical aspect of it. For some, it's important, but not from a musical perspective. They don't hear the lyrics. Of course they hear them, but it's not what they hear, it's what they know. They listen, and after a few seconds they have figured out that a sentence means this and that, and might be well written. This isn't, however, from a musical perspective.
Subtitles on a movie are an entirely different thing. All those do is translate from a different language was it already being said. Lyrics in a song allow a human voice to act as an instrument, to become part of the music. This is a basic tenet of composition.
Even if you wouldn't understand a song, because of the language, or just because it was (in your opinion) oddly written, you would still be able to like the song. Then, when you had translated it, or just suddenly understood it, it might get you to like the song better, but it wouldn't sound better. It wouldn't just suddenly be different musically.
Lyrics are a part of songs, and a good companion of music, but still not really a part of music.
I'm sorry, but that is just not true. Music is what you hear and can't be anything more than that. Lyrics are literacy, which is different. The human voice isn't lyrics. The only musical purpose lyrics have is so that the voice doesn't just spew gibberish, but instead something that people understand. Lyrics aren't the instrument of the voice, it's something beyond what you hear.
The last part seems as if you think I'm not a musician. I assure you, I am. I play the piano, guitar and drums.
If you'd ever taken a single lesson, or played with a group, you'd know that lyrics are part of the music.
Most of the earliest music was done acapella. History's greatest composers used the human voice as an INSTRUMENT (you'd know that if you had any background in music): Handel, Beethoven, Von Bingen, Puccini, Verdi, Mozart and Wagner (and often, when the compositions containing lyrics were played as instrumentals, instruments took the vocal parts).
First of all, music history has nothing to do with being a musician.
Second, one doesn't have to have taken a music lesson to be a musician.
Third, I have not denied the vox as an instrument, but the lyrics, the meanings in the lyrics aren't important musically. You keep pestering about the voice, and singing, when I am talking about lyrics, as in literature, and not the voice.
Voice = Instrument
Lyrics = Literature
Lyrics don't determine rhythm nor tonality. The voice does.
Mussorgsky wrote extensively about how the rhythm of speech should be imitated in writing his operas. And in Alban Berg's Wozzeck the tonality as well as rhythm is entirely dedicated to the words.
Just in general poetry is meant to be spoken and determines rhythm. I mean, you wouldn't say "there once was a man from Nantucket" any other way. ;)
i agree with what you are saying. expressing through music is one thing and expressing through lyrics is a whole different thing. the fact is that if you want to make music with lyrics you would have to write the lyrics and compose something according to what you are trying to say. however, nowadays music is just another bussines, and any kind of real apreciation or art philosophy is thrown away by the need of listening to something just to entertain yourself.
well, it´s ok if you like to pay a particular attention to the music, but that works manly in classical music where music is worth listening. however, you must accept that if there´s a song that has both music and lyrics and it is well written with both music and lyrics expressing the same things, it has it´s own particular beauty
Having it's own particular beauty is fine, but it's not really from a musical perspective. But more like a beauty regarding song, when considering the art form of music and literacy put together.
However, I couldn't care less. I mean, music is the only thing that can get me to euphoric places. No other art forms can touch music, not the slightest. Therefore, it doesn't matter how good lyrics are, they just don't weigh jackshit for me.
There's no "one second" mistake, you are waiting for a higher note but he is doing a perfectly armonic tone, probably a 7th, and I think is very professional.
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It may very well be that tone you are talking about, but he's still off-key. To be more specific, I have to dig further in the song and find exactly how he's off-key (Hz e.g.), but I don't think I want to do that.
I have a very good ear for music, and I know when I hear an off-key note.
Listen to the first part of 'my'. He straightens it up right away. But, I know for certain, he is off-key on the first part of the word.
You seem to know something about music. Try to listen a few times.
Try asking someone you 100% trust on pitch 'n' stuff. I'm totally sure he's off-key.
It's not the 'M' but a part of the 'Y' that's off-key.
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Somewhat off-topic here, but is there any software that can measure frequencies? To e.g. prove something is off-key or not. Would be a handy software.
um nah, that was in tune, i got out my "handy software" aka a tuner and checked. u just don't know anything about music. now go listen to your jonas brothers you faggot. QQ
This song actually got me into Frank Sinatra! god northern kings is amazing!! :D
BoDaClown 1 hour ago
I'm in love with this man!!!!
aliklili 2 months ago
I love kakko's voice :')
MrGillanking 2 months ago
@MrGillanking Great!, but this is J.Ahola.
elokuva18 4 days ago
god, thats fuckin great... thanx a lot for sharing...
metalbua 2 months ago
From cover to a whole new unique version!
GREAT! /m/
oczytejmalej20 2 months ago
I never believed this song could have ever been made as awesome as the original, but these guys made it better (in my opinion)
Sim88ify 3 months ago 2
one word: PERFECTION
teresabyalphonse 3 months ago
this version of song really reassemble to Shane McGowan's my way but maybe this is just me
mirjalovic 3 months ago
This is brilliant. Northern Kings, I discovered you today and you will probably be my favorite band for the next 30 days.
lostinforest88 3 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Northern Kings 2
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muy bueno......
nacho78z 4 months ago
muy bueno
nacho78z 4 months ago
As always they do it there way
adzzy 5 months ago
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THE ORIGINAL IS BY CLAUDE FRANçOIS Please fix that mistake in your description !
benzaie 5 months ago
@benzaie English lyrics are written by Paul Anka, and that is the one this cover is made from.
Alkuteos 5 months ago 12
@benzaie thats not a mistake. while he he had a hand in writing the song the original one is nothing like my way..paul anka wrote MY WAY so probaly you are the mistake.please fix that!!!
MrBillydixon 3 months ago
good cover of master sinatra iit remember me dio voice
raphomet 5 months ago 2
Beautiful Cover.
elvenpathic 5 months ago 2
@ornancopter i mean the whole pice not just the song "phantom of the opera" the whole musical/opera
Norwkeke 5 months ago
Incrível!
CinthiaAssiscih 6 months ago
Kyl suomi viel.....niinkun aina :)
Seejay42 6 months ago
They should cover Frank Sinatra's "Strangers in the Night". Now, that would be epic! :)
pasheka777 7 months ago 5
Metal makes even the best, Even Better ^w^
lewa3910 7 months ago 5
I did it my waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay, eaea putos, chingen asu madre
ivanoeck 7 months ago
i bet they can make an awesome cover of speak softly love.
yootyoob101 8 months ago
this man should sing phantom of the opera ;)
Norwkeke 8 months ago 11
@Norwkeke Would be very awesome.
eki11111111111111111 8 months ago
@Norwkeke Well, one of them DID. Marco Hietala from Nightwish.
Ornancopter 6 months ago
@Ornancopter i didnt actually like marco's cover of the song phantom of the opera, he simply dont have what it takes to sing that song, because it require more passion and commitment to sing that song, marco should sing it like he REALY was the phantom of the opera ,to sing like phantom you must feel pain.love sadness,despair,and sing like a god and as a ghost, be an arcitect, illusionist,feared and hated and more , the man to sing that song must be a geni, sry bad english im from norway ^^
Norwkeke 5 months ago
@Ornancopter And did it well indeed!!!
FernandoLx 5 months ago
I do believe that my ears just had an orgasm!!!!!
aliklili 8 months ago 3
@aliklili that's an EARGASM :)
JustHowToSayIt 8 months ago 5
22 people didn't do it their way.
johnandroclese 9 months ago
Best "My Way" cover.
th3warr1or 9 months ago
Brix, they have been shat...
victorwhite100 9 months ago
It looks like dio
messiahofevil666 9 months ago
they should do a cover for The Gambler :P just wanna hear how that sounds metal being the only country song i like XD
WTFareSporks 10 months ago
This makes me want to sacrifice a goat.
russell0769 10 months ago 28
NORTHERN METAL ANGELS
luna0x0anul 11 months ago
best singer of the band!!!
MrLeded100 11 months ago 2
19 people didn't in their way.
RJLpt 11 months ago 2
who were the mf that gave these guys thumbs down? are they like deaf?
inermerip 11 months ago
Well... my mind just got blown!! Amazing .... Fu*#ing amazing!!!
lemuriansoul 1 year ago
amazing voice
donnie2110 1 year ago
that's one of the best sound's I'd ever heard, really superior jumalallinen
ThePallasit 1 year ago
/swoon
xxkamaixx 1 year ago
the real fuckin sound of music
AvengedDalmedo 1 year ago 5
I just raped the replay button :P
deadmaninc49 1 year ago 6
fuck, match zero man...
locoawise 1 year ago
I just LOVE Jarkko's voice *-* especially singing in english
mags319 1 year ago 4
Too awesome to properly describe.
ZicherCZ 1 year ago 5
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Pure awesomeness, there's nothing more to say.
ZicherCZ 1 year ago
Bonito oir una famosa melodia con un rasgo metalico y placentero.
condorcito99 1 year ago
yak, yankees with their f' opinions of the other people of the globe, so you are alone there, have fun with yourselves...and shoot all the others..at least try to cope
jarppak 1 year ago 2
@jarppak The loudest voice is always the one you hear, and unfortunately that tends to be the assholes. We aren't all like that.
billybones69420 1 year ago 6
OMG!!! i FELL IN LOVE WITH METAL!!!!!
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he can sing and they can play their instrument but this is horrible
Gijontin 1 year ago
@Gijontin go die!
BlackNewUser 1 year ago
@BlackNewUser no.
Gijontin 1 year ago
The King ;)
Melbu69 1 year ago
@Melbu69 Not the king, THE GOD!
ekaitza13 1 year ago
Sanatra Arctica?
DulBeat 1 year ago 5
I have to say, Jarkko's voice is amazing and so well developed!! ♥
chaosvoider 1 year ago
Fuck Sida vicius
Iker666beast 1 year ago
Wow, motherflippin' wow...
Baktor 1 year ago
I swear, these guys can make ANYTHING sound metal!
lisarenee3505 1 year ago 147
@lisarenee3505 the singer of Sonata! Really great!
SN1488 1 year ago
@lisarenee3505 i know right!!
shssh wow
gloomydoomy666 1 year ago
Jarkko Ahola is the best singer ever! Pure perfection! Long live and prosper!
JonnaSuomi 1 year ago 2
very good
lucasferreira028 1 year ago
Beautiful!!! I wanted Nina Hagen's version to be played at my funeral, but I'm switching to this one :D
TheMaryTere 1 year ago 2
Nice pic {} (rock)
ETFMOZI 1 year ago
It's unbelievable! No matter witch song, witch genre or whatever these guys always make a great or even better cover of it, but unfortunately that's all they do.
LykanSam 1 year ago
@LykanSam Check out the group Tarot, if you haven't before
HawthornWitch 1 year ago
@HawthornWitch Thx for the hint. They're good
LykanSam 1 year ago
I am quite sure even Frank himself would be impressed!
samhain1967 1 year ago 2
@samhain1967 Agree !!!!!!!!
magugreech 1 year ago
Wierd thing is... it almost sounds like Sid Vicious' version.. with hsi accent.. but its amazing none the less
Jcwnero 1 year ago
The Best ;p
tuoppi112 1 year ago
this one is pretty good, but apart from the man himself, i think robbie williams' cover is the best.
gokce2112 1 year ago
excellent specially in the transposed ending part....
jinglenene1000 1 year ago 3
@me1yu really? That really sounds amazing... I know he plays left handed with right handed instruments :)
I must admit I am not a fan of Ahola, in spite I admit his talent. I started listening to the Northern Kings because of Hietala,who I admire because of his work on Tarot and Tony Kakko, from Sonata Arctica. But good to know that :)
gabrielstatus 1 year ago
it's wonderful.... I just fallen in love with his voice... <3
HOWEVER, METAL IS FOREVER!!!!!
BettyDavies90 1 year ago
@GiannsmitH: Yeah, this is Sinatra, you didn't have to be that surprised, it is a bit obvious.
@omgeveryname : Scandinavians just take classical music, and chant/singing lessons more seriously than most of other countries.
@hibyeeee2 : Obviously he did, it is impossible to sing like that without singing lessons. THe best level you could reach without lessons and study would be something like Dave Mustaine.
gabrielstatus 1 year ago
@gabrielstatus Sounds amazing, but actually you can read from various articles that Jarkko Ahola is a self taught vocalist and musician, who has never taken any singing or other instrumet lessons. But then you can actually guess something like that from his acoustic guitar and bass palying in some other videos. He is left handed, but plays right handed intstruments left handedly upside down.
me1yu 1 year ago 4
oh MY GOD¡¡¡¡¡ this blew my mind away¡¡¡¡
xious80 1 year ago 2
I can`t play it just once.Ahola is the greatest!
ThePriestfan 1 year ago
Does anyone know if Jarkko Ahola has had any singing lessons. His voice is amazing.
hibyeeee2 1 year ago
@hibyeeee2 he's scandinavian it's just kinda natural to have an amazing voice for metal
omgeveryname 1 year ago 2
@hibyeeee2 of course his voice is amazing. he's a PROFESSIONAL METAL SINGER. of course... and... let me know that... it's impossible not falling in love with his voice
BettyDavies90 1 year ago
omg so epic when the guitar kicks in
JoJy54 1 year ago
omg this band is so so so great i was listening to this song but no very carefully an then OMG this is sinatra su fucking weird, love this band
GiannsmitH 1 year ago
es super vos y buena calidad de musica los amoooooooo desdde colombiaaaa
maryforever100 1 year ago
great :D
anderas 1 year ago 7
It empressed me every time again, when I hear it.
But, ...simply, the whole song along:
It´s ... it´s ... (I´m a girl, I can say it) It´s a cute one, don´t you think?
AvlinJavin 1 year ago 88
@AvlinJavin If you mean Jarkko...oh yeah he is really cute =)
vaxelhaxan 1 year ago
@vaxelhaxan eah... yes, ... in the first way, I meant the song, but now thät yoku mention it, Jarkko is cute, you´re right =.^
AvlinJavin 1 year ago
@AvlinJavin it is. and he's.. AMAZING! his voice is SO SEXY
BettyDavies90 1 year ago 2
@AvlinJavin I have to totally agree with you on that one!! :)
chaosvoider 1 year ago
@AvlinJavin Yes! It definitely is!
SamiraAncara 1 year ago
so according to my pianoheadcase, a cover should sound exactly like the original. What the hell would be the point ot even doing a cover. idiot.
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wow this an awful cover, probablly do in fact that it rips the song of its personality and genuine feeling and replacing it with gothic-y melodrama and operatic over emoting. i guess the best or worst thing you can say about it is it hardly sounds anything like the original
mypianoheadcase 2 years ago
You also said that when the compositions containing lyrics were played as instrumentals, instruments took the vocal parts. They don't form words, but a melody in a certain tone. Which I think was kinda BrokenBjartur's point all along.
I think it's in human nature to always find a song they can attach too when something in their life moves them emotionally, from anything in the world to the love life. That's where i think the lyrics get in.
bloodsun1 2 years ago
I must say. That you Peter0ctavium are sadly mistaking.
I think BrokenBjartur proved his point with:
Voice = instrument
Lyrics = literature
As he said lyrics don't determine rhythm nor tonality that is what the voice does.
You said yourself that the human voice is an INSTRUMENT. Meaning you can sing kinda whatever you like because youre still singing in the same melody and tone.
bloodsun1 2 years ago
4:01 *eargasm* 'Nuff said. X3
NightwishObsessed 2 years ago
fkn awesome.... !!!!
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Was soll ich noch schreiben, alles was was man sagen kann steht bereits hier.
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DerRichter501 2 years ago
die ersten sekunden dacht ich 'hey, klingt wie metallica s&m' .. um kurz darauf daran erinnert zu werden, wieso ich metal höre.
absolut starke band, tolles cover!
blow1977 2 years ago
Je öfter ich das hier höre, umso mehr gefällt es mir.
Die Stimme passt unglaublich gut zu diesem Stück.
Northern Kings sind fantastisch!
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I just did this song cover, check it out guys, let me know what do you think?
watch?v=W9-zwDG9uZ0
blackaries 2 years ago
epic cover <3
★★★★★
skanazi 2 years ago
tripant
danielthibault 2 years ago
Cute song, don´t ya think? ^^
AvlinJavin 2 years ago 2
great.
Zacouris 2 years ago 3
Dio Jr! rsrs
MoniqueMorrigann 2 years ago
what even started this conversation? Your both idiots for giving each other the satisfaction of argueing!!!!
dragonrider1006 2 years ago
best cover they have done in my opinion. Ahola is a great singer, too bad his (Teräsbetoni) is a manowar clone :<
4look4rd 2 years ago 4
This song was originally composed in 1967 by Claude François and Jacques Revaux, this is a frecnh song called "Comme d'habitude".
Ikarvocals 2 years ago
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true
but.... dont kill the moment.. :(
GazMaddogJones 2 years ago
J. Ahola is very underrated. He is arguably the most impressive singer in the group.
Spyral01 2 years ago 32
They're all arguably the most impressive singer in the group. That's what makes this band cool. He is underrated, I do like this cover, but Marco is my favorite.
Phantom13137 2 years ago
I LIKE IT, very much!!!
notME581 2 years ago 2
This is amazing, so thrilling!!!
Nebelmond 2 years ago 4
2:25-26 -.-... The rest is professional but that part is just too petty. One would think that they would have heard that.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
Petty is not even an accurate musical critique. And you're saying the rest of the song is great but you have a problem with one second of it? Talk about being petty.
randomgai1234 2 years ago
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That 'one second' is musically retarded. If you listen, closely for some it appears, he's fucking off-key.
They make a huge fucking deal about showing how well they can sing, but have an off-key vocal in a fucking studio version. That's outright pathetic. Besides the software one can use to fine-tune vocals, they still could have tried it enough times until it would have been perfect. This is, of course, if they are even able to detect it.
Don't test me, shitsticks.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
@BrokenBjartur
You should probably stick to your auto-tune artists and other overproduced living computers and leave real music to those that are able to feel and live it.
There is a such thing called interpretation and "mistakes" that are left there on purpose just for the sake of it.
me1yu 2 years ago
@me1yu
... And what artists might those be?
Who tha fuck are you to say what fucking music I should or am listening to?
Interpretation... I resent that word.
You are not supposed to over-think, relate and interpret music. You're not supposed to have an epiphany, days after you've listened to music.
You are only supposed to 'feel' and hear the music in the 'now'.
I enjoyed this song, but that 'one second' ruined it, because he was fucking off-key, and that hurts my ears.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
Your concept interpretation is that of post-modern philosophy. But generally = the rendering of a dramatic part, music, etc, so as to indicate one's particular view of it. You can't sing or play music without interpretating it. It is the way it comes out, there's nothing over-thinking in that. It's music lived, here and now.
The way you interpret music depends also on the genre. Some insist on exact accuracy, some others crave for attitude and feeling. Metal belongs mainly to the latter.
me1yu 2 years ago
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That is utter and complete bullshit.
That may be the instant with most people who 'claim' they like music, but it is wrong.
What I like about music is exactly what I hear. It has nothing to do with attitude or any genre. There are people who are the way you say, who either seek attitude or 'order', but those don't really like music. They only like the idea of music. An art form they 'claim' to be a part of.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
So, you listen to music because it can be a pleasant background noise? That just happens to be one part of what music. Have you ever really listened to the lyrics of this song or any song? Most of them tell a story or have a form of meaning put in them. If that is how you feel about music, you should probably just be listening to some orchestral scores. Oh wait, you wouldn't even be able to do that because those are meant to convey emotion in the person listening.
DarwinwasWrong 2 years ago
Let me make this clear; 'Lyrics' isn't music.
I hate when people bullshit about 'feelings' and 'meaning' when they talk about music. Music has been infected by people who don't actually listen to music, but either listen to it because someone else listens to it, or just because they want to be a part of an art form.
I'm sick, weary, jaded, you fucking name it, of assholes like you who run around bitching about lyrics and hidden fucking meanings. Go fuck yourself you infesting parasite.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
Nor did I say that lyrics was music, I simply stated that it was just a piece of what music is. I didn't say anything about hidden messages or anything of the sort. I said that most music tells a story about something and you can't deny that. The story may have no meaning to you and that's fine. Just because it has no meaning to you does not mean that it has no meaning to anyone else.
DarwinwasWrong 2 years ago
It can't have a definitive meaning or story, as meanings and stories told by arts (besides the blatantly obvious arts like literature) are subjective. You may derive a meaning or story from it, but do not state that it has to have it. Some make music just for the love of the music, not including any message, meaning or story. I can have a euphoric experience when I listen to music. Nothing goes through my mind a such points. I do not think. I just listen, and feel the extacy
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
The message got cut abruptly. I accidentally clicked the 'Post Comment'. But it only needed a period and the proper spelling of 'ecstasy'.
Oh and I meant; "nothing goes through my mind AT such points".
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
And lyrics aren't a part of music. I don't care how long they have walked hand in hand through time. Lyrics aren't music, nor are they a part of music. Although, lyrics are needed to accompany the voice, instead of it just babbling gibberish. The content of the lyrics are of no importance to music, whatsoever.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
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@BrokenBjartur
"I do not think. I just listen, and feel the extacy "
"I hate when people bullshit about 'feelings' and 'meaning' when they talk about music."
Ok you hate yourself, and you don't know nothing about music, if this song were composed without lyrics nobody would listen it because melody is beautiful but repetitive.
Or imagine talking about turtles.....
"And now my turtle is here, i'm so afraid..."
lamagiamoreno 2 years ago
Nobody would listen to it because the majority of people who listen to music don't really listen to music. They either just listen to it because they want to be like other people, or because they want to be connected to an art form.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
So?? They have another interest.... being a music fundamentalist doesn't give you the right to comment about the others
But there is something funny called friendship, i guess you really don't have friends, but it is when you know people and you have common interest, sometimes this people make you listen his music and you like it, or not, but people connect that way, and they are happy.... you should try it before complain about everything
lamagiamoreno 2 years ago
What tha fuck? How did you make this about friendship and happiness?!
To be honest, even though I have friends, few share the exact musical interests I have. It's pretty annoying that I don't know anyone (IRL) that likes what I like. Sure, my friends all like e.g. A7X, but not always for the same reasons I do.
But it's a trivial annoyance. I am content with liking the music on my own. It's actually the only place I can go by myself. So in a sense, I'm glad that I can have it by myself.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
@BrokenBjartur that's really sad... i've never heard something so sad... obviously, you aren't happy
corrompementes 2 years ago
What an utter and spectacular display of intellectual and strikingly precise deduction.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
@BrokenBjartur While music doesn't require lyrics, when lyrics are present, they ARE, decidedly, part of the music.
Peter0ctavian 2 years ago
That's in the same sense as subtitles are a part of a movie, and music is a part of a video game.
It's not something that really governs the musical aspect of it. For some, it's important, but not from a musical perspective. They don't hear the lyrics. Of course they hear them, but it's not what they hear, it's what they know. They listen, and after a few seconds they have figured out that a sentence means this and that, and might be well written. This isn't, however, from a musical perspective.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
Subtitles on a movie are an entirely different thing. All those do is translate from a different language was it already being said. Lyrics in a song allow a human voice to act as an instrument, to become part of the music. This is a basic tenet of composition.
Peter0ctavian 2 years ago
It has still really nothing to do with music.
Even if you wouldn't understand a song, because of the language, or just because it was (in your opinion) oddly written, you would still be able to like the song. Then, when you had translated it, or just suddenly understood it, it might get you to like the song better, but it wouldn't sound better. It wouldn't just suddenly be different musically.
Lyrics are a part of songs, and a good companion of music, but still not really a part of music.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
Now you're just trolling.
Lyrics are part of the music. That's fundamental music composition theory. The human voice is another instrument.
Not easy for a non-musician to understand, but something which is a basic tenet musical performance.
Peter0ctavian 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but that is just not true. Music is what you hear and can't be anything more than that. Lyrics are literacy, which is different. The human voice isn't lyrics. The only musical purpose lyrics have is so that the voice doesn't just spew gibberish, but instead something that people understand. Lyrics aren't the instrument of the voice, it's something beyond what you hear.
The last part seems as if you think I'm not a musician. I assure you, I am. I play the piano, guitar and drums.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
You're not a musician.
If you'd ever taken a single lesson, or played with a group, you'd know that lyrics are part of the music.
Most of the earliest music was done acapella. History's greatest composers used the human voice as an INSTRUMENT (you'd know that if you had any background in music): Handel, Beethoven, Von Bingen, Puccini, Verdi, Mozart and Wagner (and often, when the compositions containing lyrics were played as instrumentals, instruments took the vocal parts).
Peter0ctavian 2 years ago
First of all, music history has nothing to do with being a musician.
Second, one doesn't have to have taken a music lesson to be a musician.
Third, I have not denied the vox as an instrument, but the lyrics, the meanings in the lyrics aren't important musically. You keep pestering about the voice, and singing, when I am talking about lyrics, as in literature, and not the voice.
Voice = Instrument
Lyrics = Literature
Lyrics don't determine rhythm nor tonality. The voice does.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago 4
Yeah. The last sentence alone speaks volumes about your knowledge and ability as a musician.
You go ahead and continue to blather. Anyone who ACTUALLY knows something about music and theory can have a chuckle along with me.
Ciao.
Peter0ctavian 2 years ago
Would you care to humor me on what you know, and can, as a musician?
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
@BrokenBjartur
Mussorgsky wrote extensively about how the rhythm of speech should be imitated in writing his operas. And in Alban Berg's Wozzeck the tonality as well as rhythm is entirely dedicated to the words.
Just in general poetry is meant to be spoken and determines rhythm. I mean, you wouldn't say "there once was a man from Nantucket" any other way. ;)
QLudwig 1 year ago
Moreover, early in musical history, it was very common for music to be passed on "viva voce", and not written down.
These are just facts. If you knew anything about music and music theory, you'd know this.
Peter0ctavian 2 years ago
@BrokenBjartur true
DemonGojyo 2 years ago
i agree with what you are saying. expressing through music is one thing and expressing through lyrics is a whole different thing. the fact is that if you want to make music with lyrics you would have to write the lyrics and compose something according to what you are trying to say. however, nowadays music is just another bussines, and any kind of real apreciation or art philosophy is thrown away by the need of listening to something just to entertain yourself.
feuerkavalier 2 years ago
Funny how the collective human race is able to destroy things.
I just focus on the music. I might like some lyrics, but they don't really play a role whether or not I like a song.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
well, it´s ok if you like to pay a particular attention to the music, but that works manly in classical music where music is worth listening. however, you must accept that if there´s a song that has both music and lyrics and it is well written with both music and lyrics expressing the same things, it has it´s own particular beauty
feuerkavalier 2 years ago
Having it's own particular beauty is fine, but it's not really from a musical perspective. But more like a beauty regarding song, when considering the art form of music and literacy put together.
However, I couldn't care less. I mean, music is the only thing that can get me to euphoric places. No other art forms can touch music, not the slightest. Therefore, it doesn't matter how good lyrics are, they just don't weigh jackshit for me.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
Having it's own particular beauty is fine, but it's not really from a musical perspective
true.
feuerkavalier 2 years ago
@BrokenBjartur
There's no "one second" mistake, you are waiting for a higher note but he is doing a perfectly armonic tone, probably a 7th, and I think is very professional.
lamagiamoreno 2 years ago
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It may very well be that tone you are talking about, but he's still off-key. To be more specific, I have to dig further in the song and find exactly how he's off-key (Hz e.g.), but I don't think I want to do that.
I have a very good ear for music, and I know when I hear an off-key note.
Listen to the first part of 'my'. He straightens it up right away. But, I know for certain, he is off-key on the first part of the word.
You seem to know something about music. Try to listen a few times.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
@BrokenBjartur
He doesn't lose his breathing, the tone is perfect...
I believe there is no error, sounds a little nasal, but remember there's a "M" before.... is nasal.
lamagiamoreno 2 years ago
@lamagiamoreno
Try asking someone you 100% trust on pitch 'n' stuff. I'm totally sure he's off-key.
It's not the 'M' but a part of the 'Y' that's off-key.
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Somewhat off-topic here, but is there any software that can measure frequencies? To e.g. prove something is off-key or not. Would be a handy software.
BrokenBjartur 2 years ago
your full of bull... he's not off key anywhere in this song...geez...
theprophecy11 2 years ago
um nah, that was in tune, i got out my "handy software" aka a tuner and checked. u just don't know anything about music. now go listen to your jonas brothers you faggot. QQ
bobiofabio 2 years ago