With intellects like yours, its no wonder Obama got elected. A question for you...What makes the KORAN so special, that this President falls all over himself apologizing for its desecration? Try being a little more consistent in your arguments.
@DerrickH1969 What makes it "special" is that the Muslims are lunatic enough to bomb shit, potentially American assets. As strained as US/Arab relations are, I should expect any president worth a damn to nudge that 'tarded pastor and say "You have the right, but it's really not a good idea."
Of course if there were no religions at least half the reasons humans hate each other would go away and we could start focusing on the rest. I say burn all religion to the ground. Hail Science.
@bwsmith101 Try me, I do have a degree in economics and am highly math literate. I'm starting to think it is you who lacks the cognitive muscle to put together an explanation of this nonsense, or you would have done it and shut me up. Damn right I'm voting for Obama again... I'm not brain-damaged by religion and conservative indoctrination. The economy is gradually improving, because of Obama's policies (mostly). It could have gone more smoothly, but the GOP hates America.
Obama's policies are what is killing this country. He's spending over 1 trillion dollars in deficits for every year he has been in office. At this rate we will become Greece within 5 to 7 years. Obama is the one who hates America. That's why he is dividing it with all the class envy talk. In Obama's eyes it's payback time for America for all the prosperity we have had. If Obama really wanted to stimulate the economy he would simply turn in his resignation.
@bwsmith101 I don't have a problem with cutting spending on things like debt financed wars started under republican administrations. But our long-tern revenue problems cannot be solved without taxing the rich and using that revenue on direct job creation. The rich STOLE their money off the labors of honest workers, it's time to even the score. Am I to suppose you earn more than $250K/y and your taxes stand to go up? I'm sure you're struggling as much as single moms with health needs.
God's signature is written through out his Word. Example, the second paragraph of Genesis has over 25 names of trees encoded into the hebrew text. Any mathmatician will tell you that this could NO WAY occur by man's ability. Hundreds if not thousands of historical events have been found in the text by computer. Like JFK. Hitler and the Halocaust. Apollo13. "Shoemaker" the asteroid that hit Jupiter in 1994. Assasination of Lincoln. "Chernoble" the nuclear meltdown in Russia in 1986. Or 911.
@bwsmith101 Isn't it marvelous how God's word can predict the past with perfect 20-hindsight vision? What predictions does the Bible make about China? or Mars? (you do believe in Mars ((the planet, not the true god of war)) don't you?).
I'm awaiting your well written, well sourced PM to explain why ancient mythology is mathematically predictive of the future in a useful way. Until then, fuck off, retard.
@spikesmth The scripture was written before any of these events ever occured. Besides, even if man wanted to compose even a paragraph and encode just one event is impossible and beyond his capacity. The real problem is not proof. You know there is a God, but in your darkened heart you deny it because you don't want to be held accountable.
@bwsmith101 Well if that's the explanation that convinces you that the Bible code predicts the future then you must be the most gullible idiot on the internet. And you're 42 years old?? lol, I thought people gained wisdom as they aged, not lunacy.
Don't tell me what I know. You know the great space worm Chu'Chinkep is the true creator of the universe, you just don't want to be accountable. Stop worshiping the false god jeebus and repent!
Christianity is The Faith In Jesus! His death and Salvation His Birth and Resurrection! I am not being hateful to you because you don't know any better.There Is A Creator.Obama Is he who Jesus wrote about the man of sin!Who is working to bring about 666!I'm not lieng and I write this to you so you may know!
@AlbertEinstien18 mmkay. I have no interest in the ramblings of crazy people. Jesus never existed, if you weren't mentally handicapped you'd be able to research the actual documentation of the time and see that your whole belief system is a sham. Who created the creator? If he doesn't need one, then the universe doesn't need one. It isn't Obama or the devil who are bringing down our country, it is sick people like you who can't tell fact from fiction.
@tkd4zgqg Being from Alabama shows your intelligence. I doubt your synapses posses the robustness required to apprehend the profound fractal wrongness of your own ad hominem blathering.
O has it? because if it has then there would be no reason to believe in it and Christianity would no longer exist. So you sir are incorrect, you can try again, if you'd like.
@moneybgs15 Exactly, there is no reason to believe... as for it no longer existing... there will always be child indoctrination and gullible idiots, look at Scientology and Mormonism. All religions are the same. You see things don't become real just because they aren't disproved (though in this case much of it is). Unless you can disprove The Great Space Worm Chu'Chinkep then it must be real! Super cereal. Hail science or gtfo.
I just googled The Great Space Worm Chu'Chinkep and nothing came up you care to send me an article or something that can show me this? Also demanding anything will never get you anything hate to break it to ya. you say all religions are the same but if they are all the same there would be the same things in every religion, but from all the religions i have researched on they are VERY VERY different. haha you say hail science but what proves science to be correct... a bunch of people
science is just a bunch of equations created by men told to be correct but there is no possible way to know for a fact. People are always going to disagree on science and religion and obviously there is no way to know for a FACT until we die, to know whether there is an afterlife or not, but for now i will continue to believe in Christianity until it has failed me. so God Bless have a good life.
@moneybgs15 You ungrateful brat. Science has given you EVERYTHING material in your life, and probably your life itself. You say "fact," but when you use that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
In 500 characters explain how God & your Jesus myth is AT LEAST as credible (factual) as gravity or the theory of electromagnetism. Chu'Chinkep is watching you.
@moneybgs15 I see God believers are liars... even about something as trivial as Googling. If you google "Chu'Chinkep" there are two hits. Therefore it proves it's real. Fucking obvious, what kind of moron are you?
haha you call me a brat yet you resort to using inferior curse words because you are mad that i am saying that Chu'Chinkep is not real because the only 2 results that pop up are youtube comments, and further more you call all God believers liars... how are they lying do you not believe in a man that lived named Jesus Christ? if so you might want to do some research of your own my good sir. Finally you have not said anything about me saying science was created by men for men and no
way to know for a fact if they are truly correct. I will end with you sir are not willing to accept religion because you frankly do not want to. I refuse to continue this conversation. Have a good life sir and God Bless.
@moneybgs15 Your solipsistic characterization of science is immature and useless. Are you saying there's no way to know for sure that Oxygen gas is O2 and Ozone is O3? That plants use light to photosynthesize glucose? That stars are giant fusion reactions so large they are contained by their own gravity?
You're right, I don't want to accept religion because I don't want to believe things that are not true. Run away now, your ancient woowoo is not welcome in the world of modern man.
@moneybgs15 You lied when you said you Googled it and came up with no results. Isn't that one of your commandments? To claim that Jesus was real is a lie. Give me ONE contemporary account of his existence, please. Good luck, since there are none. Whether or not Jesus was (based on) a real person(s), speaks nothing about his supposed divinity. I find it quaint a Christian is telling me to do research lol.
man if you were chocolate you would it eat yourself and your so called science always changes just as you with whatever is the new opinion. you are all so arrogant with your ever changing ideas you all stand for nothing and fall for anything.your arrogance=there is nothing above me i a greater than all ????who pissed in your wheaties when you were a child ?????didnt get your way ...things went wrong so you find something to blame it on and use your anger in the name of science.see a shrink
@terrystratenberger I don't like chocolate thank you. Religious people play the blame game too. Atheists aren't better people per se, we're just righter. Hail Science.
Better question to you is why why why would a president need to or find it appropriate to talk about the Bible,or religion for that matter...This country was once The Great ,untouchable land of plenty ...it is and will be brought down because we have taken God out of everything........doesn't matter if you believe ,,,seeing is believing RIGHT?
hmm you say it does matter what you believe if you care what it is ? love to know why you think that.......... and why the hell do you care if others believe in the bible... bash something just because you don't believe in it WOW .. then you go on to say that the guy refused to acknowledge evolution hmmmm JUST LIKE YOU refuse to acknowledge the bible you are a confused hypocrite.
@sugahface lol, not "if you care what it is," i said if you care what is TRUE. I don't mind belief in the Bible in and of itself so much as using that belief to justify ignorance and otherwise shitty behavior. If belief in the Babble leads people away from scientific understanding then it must go.
Only an imbecile would consider the Bible and evolution to be comparable subjects. Evidence or GTFO. Hail Science.
Just in case you're not going read what it says in the bible...psalm 53 verse 1 says THE FOOL HAS SAID IN HIS HEART, THERE IS NO GOD, CORRUPT ARE THEY, (You are corrupted for saying and thinking such things) AND HAVE DONE ABOMINABLE INIQUITY: THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD...however there's still hope for people like U and others who don't believe and mocks the idea and I'll be praying for you and others
@spikesmth Please, for the Love of God open your mind and your heart and your soul. At least give a glance in the direction of the opposing view. Your everlasting soul is worth observing all possibilities. What if you're wrong? What if the reason there are so many things wrong in our lives is because there is an enemy that has us all pitted against each other. Half of us don't believe he exists and the other half are busy trying to convince them he does rather than serving God. A genious plan.
@TherealCitizenGhost What's an everlasting soul? Fiction, so as far as I can tell. I know what that enemy is... it's the stern & sincere belief in invisible supernatural powers, God & Satan, Popocatepetl and Baal, all of it. It is an enemy I will not love because it is eroding human potential. It is is designed to erode human potential. "Serving God" is just a euphamism for doing what you want at the expense of others. Stoneage mythology is laughed at in the 21st century.
@spikesmth Your everlasting soul is the part of you that goes on after the flesh has died. But you seem to have it all figured out. I wish you well. In the mean time just know that not serving God is the real euphamism for doing what you want while ignoring the consequences. I have done my God's bidding by asking you to rethink. Keep in mind, Hell has no exits and the worse part of being there is knowing you did not have to go. God sends no one to Hell. Reject Jesus Christ and you send yourself.
@TherealCitizenGhost Are you saying my BONES will carry my consciousness?? That's fucking wild (and retarded).
I don't ignore consequences, YOU ignore real world consequences in favor of your imagined after-life "consequences."
Learn to spell. "Hell has no exits" I think you mean, Hell has no exist.
I do not posses the power to create an afterlife and determine what happens to "souls" after they are free from reality. Only your god character does. He made the rules right?
@spikesmth It wasn't my intention to activate your inner rage. You're right, believing your bones "carry your consciousness" would indicate a mental deficiency....LOL!! which is why that's not what I said. No big deal. But "Hell has no exist"? Really? And you're worried about my spelling? LOL!! I have been respectful, dude. As God expects of me. So whatever, have a nice life.
@TherealCitizenGhost It's rather insulting that you think I'd be stupid enough to believe in fairies and satan and shit. Our bones are all that carries on after the flesh is gone so I don't know how else that supposed to be interpreted. So yeah, fall back with your blood cult. Hail Science.
chromosomes with apes, Sheeeeh Man, WAKE UP, we share the stinkin' same number of chromosomes with tobacco plants, does that make you a vegetable if you shared the same number of stinkin, chromos in tomatoes, HELLLOOOOO, smell the coffeee, quit listening to scientrollogy and study Intelligent Design for a change.
@Serge1965 We have 1 less chromosome pair than Chimps which suggests chimp chroms fused to produce the human karyotype. It's well documented down to the specific point of fusion, but that requires reading ability so I wouldn't expect you to know that.
Tobacco plants have 46 chromosomes b/c of their own unique lineage which is obviously different than humans and apes given that they're fucking plants. What is to study in ID? Jesus sneezed our apendixes into infection?
@spikesmth Look, i don,t have time for scientrollogy, i love science, you don't and ...it's ok, you also love religion more than me apparently, don't waste your time trying to pull me back into that religiosity of evolution, i have been debriefed and was affected by years of brainewashing in our secular idiotic schools, if you love theh status quo for your brains, i will respect you for that but man, i am so far gone from the eugenist programs you can't even start to comprehend, Jesus bless you
@Serge1965 *sigh* w/e man... lunatic ramblings just like Jared Loughner. I think time will demonstrate that creationism is a maladaptive trait and it will be phased out of our species naturally. Hail Science or gtfo.
@spikesmth Yeah yeah yeah , worship science which is a tool that devised by man to measure and understand the works of God, your insults only show your degree of intellectual insecurity, i think you should make your coffee stronger and really decipher what you read and reevaluate what you hold dear as truth, you are not even equipped to defend your faith in scientrollogy and atheism, just as the emperor has no clothes...if you thought you were in a debate, you never even started yet...
Decides 1st Amendment protects prison inmate's right to start study group
A federal court of appeals ruled yesterday Wisconsin prison officials violated an inmate's rights because they did not treat atheism as a religion. (WND)
@Serge1965 Court rules Gays can't marry... therefore... so fucking what? For someone who obeys God's law you seem to put a lot of weight on man's courts.
Propheticly, it has more than 300 prophecies that were fulfilled with 100% acuracy at the 1st coming of Jesus Christ (place of birth, betrayal, manner of death, etc) now we have 1145 prophecies about His second coming that are being fulfilled as we speak and they are just as precise as those of the 1st coming indicating that the Bible is indeed the Word of God mathematicly, only 8 of the 300 prophecies fulfilled meant 1 chance out of trillion trillions, trillions trillions, Jesus is Who He says
@Serge1965 Lol, you say trillions^4 as if you have the faintest comprehension of what that number is. No wonder you believe in fairies and ghosts. I find "Goodnight Moon" to be much more fulfilling and accurate than the Bible.
Jesus is the Devil, revealed to me through holy divination from the fractal Lord Shabadoobie. Prove me wrong or have your own shit hosed into your mouth for eternity! Lol, nutters, how do they work?
@spikesmth Actually, if you are an atheist or even , a secular humanist, you would be the religious guys here, both atheism and secular humanism are declared religions either by the state or in plain sight in their charts. Jesus Christ is not a religion nor a fairy tale, He is God and there is a mountain of evidence in the Bible, outside the Bible and in archeology for the claims of the Bible that you clearly ignore but no one forces you to believe Him, even He would not force Himself on you.
@Serge1965 The same reason that Shabadoobie is ridiculous to you is the same reason the Bible is ridiculous to me. If I say Harry Potter is not a fairy tale you'd think I was crazy. There is actual evidence of Hogwart's Castle... in the fictional writings of a human author.
I maintain my null position because no satisfactory evidence has been presented. Crazy street people ramble about your kind of schizoid nonsense. You hide from reality and your own humanity.
@spikesmth I guess you love religion more than me pal, Christ and the claims made in the Bible have factual evidence to back everything up, you still got zilch, nad, zero and diddly squat with a missing chain for evolution which is more of a sunken boat, amazing that people still willingly believe in that fairy tale for adults, you haven't heard of the court case for Christ presented by Simon Greenleaf yet....oh but don't believe me, that's fine, it's easier to believe those who are deceived
@spikesmth They all react like you when we tell themm they are in a sect without their own knowledge, they dismiss reality, i bet you haven't noticed that i wrote that atheism and secular humanism are both religions, right?
@Serge1965 I did notice, but I figured the obvious response that, no they aren't "religions" hasn't gotten through to you so far so I might as well follow the rabbit.
@spikesmth I' ll let you do your homework on this, mine is done and i hate religion probably more than you do actually, at any rate, read the humanist manifesto for starters, written clearly right in it
@Serge1965 I'm still open to information. You are closed. Thanks for admitting it. Your religion-culture is obsolete and is being quitely cast aside by 21st century civilized societies.
@spikesmth Well well well, it is clear to me that you are either ignorant that you are a religious person or you are willingly ignorant that you are in 2 satanic sects, at any rate, you bought the lie that you came from an animal and you say i believe in stinkin' fairy tales??? I do my homework in everything but it seems too hard for you to read your humanist manifesto, they put a white coat on, call themselves scientists and you believe them when they tell you that we share theh same number of
The Bible is not just one book but 66 books pened by 40 guys of varying backgrounds over a 1500 years span, in 3 languages, in varying cities and varying countries, all 66 books from Genesis to the last book called Revelation are coherent in this that they have this central theme, the promised Messiah, the Messiah that came as prophesied in the OT, the Messiah that died as prophesied and rose again to ascend back where He came from and who has given all the signs of His soon 2nd coming,
@Serge1965 Mmm yea, 1500 years... no time for editing for consistency or bending/inventing plots. Central theme coherent... ok most stories work that way. What isn't coherent is walking on water or using magic to split an ocean and annihilate an army. I'm sure the New Testament writers had no idea of the OT predictions so it couldn't have possibly influenced their work.. oh wait.
What does Jesus say about the relationship of Australopithecus to Modern Apes & Humans and other similar fossils?
@spikesmth If you put God in a box so you can understand Him, you're then making Him in your own image. Logicly, if God can create human beings and planets and nature and still be involved in the development of a foetus over 9 months, i don't think He needs billions of years to bring a human being to full development of body, mind, soul, and spirit, i was created to have dominion over the animals, not to be seduced with the unprovable idea that i was one of them once or evolved from slime
@Serge1965 The problem is that the concept of God is unboxable, undefinable, unprovable, unnecessary and of dubious utility yet you insist its validity over verifiable observable facts like biology, chemistry, physics. God is invented by man just like Zeus or Isis.
I will ignore your ignorance of science to maintain civility.
I am very concerned that the inspiration for your purpose yields too many negative externalities. It's people trying their damnedest to separate themselves from reality.
Why do you believe in evolution? Do you trust the scientists who have gathered the data? If so, you have more faith than Christians. I think YOU are the sheep!
@koalakiller24 The proof is that no satisfactory proof or evidence of the God claim has been given. I do not reject the null. If you have the evidence I'll look at it, but if it relies on rhetoric instead of hard facts it will be rejected. The burden of proof is on the positive claim, that there IS a God... what say you?
this guys right i mean the book is 2000 years old things have been GREATLY exaggerated and things have been edited to match peoples beliefs and refusing to acknowledge evolution?you guys got your heads so far up god's ass
eh spike smith doesnt it piss you off when people mock evolution and laugh at it fucking annoying! they act like that because if they dont make fun of it people will take it seriously and thats what they fear. all you go suck a bible!
this guys right i mean the book is 2000 years old things have been GREATLY exaggerated and things have been edited to match peoples beliefs and refusing to acknowledge evolution?you guys got your heads so far up god's ass
eh spike smith doesnt it piss you off when people mock evolution and laugh at it fucking annoying! they act like that because if they dont make fun of it people will take it seriously and thats what they fear.
@tariqhaque1317 I know right from wrong because Im not a douchebag dude im not a puppet...If you need someone to hold your hand and tell you right from wrong then I feel sorry for you you are a zombie...or a 4 year old at least
@tariqhaque1317 You don't know right from wrong, you just say "it's in the book so it's right!"
God is a cardiac tatooist now? wtf man. Use plain english. Your fucking religion-talk is all retarded and shit. Every test for God has failed. Every religion fails at making the world better. Religious people can fuck off and let the grown ups run this shit.
@tariqhaque1317 So your reason is...? what? I don't understand what that is about, considering it's out of context and irrelevant to modern reality.
Your reason is 2 lines of a book.
My reason is because I care about the welfare of mankind. I make the judgments weighing my cost/benefit to that of others. It is not perfect, and nobody expects it to be. Our main difference is that I care about real life, you care about your dream-world afterlife at the expense of this life.
@tariqhaque1317 We have one life and we face the consequences set forth by our environment. Rapists generally don't fare well in our civilized society because we don't allow them to. I can only assume you are projecting your character in the absence of god. If there was no God and you could rape someone and get away with it would you?
Consequences will never be same. Hail Science, the only honest moral position.
@tariqhaque1317 Your bible verses are irrelevant. As long as you are going to pick and choose, why not just make it up all by yourself? Or does that book do all the thinking for you?
@tariqhaque1317 Does Windows go to heaven when your HD is destroyed? lol.
There is no evidence for souls, so you're making an unjustified assertion.
Unholy is a meaningless word. Is Ebola holy or unholy? Is decay through fungal growth holy or unholy? Is shitting blood holy or unholy? Is a bleeding vag holy or unholy?
Rape Repent Repeat... that is Christianity even if you don't see it that way. I am objective, you are brainwashed. Your bible is the only filthy thing here.
@tariqhaque1317 Nobody goes to heaven. We all return to the earth. Are you saying my desire for sex is bad or wrong? Are you saying that the very state of humanity is in some way negative? I've "sinned" sure, but I'm still alive, so you & ur religion are wrong there. But since Jesus was already punished, i guess that means there are no consequences, let's all go rape repent repeat. Lol, your religion-think makes me rage and laugh at the same time.
What ever happened to separation of church and state? Our forefathers are rolling in their graves right now on how entangled church and state really is, In god we trust is on the dollar bill for fuck's sake.I was raised christian then I woke up and smelled the frankincense. I saw that Christians are a bunch of bullies. I realized this when I looked into my own Scandinavian heritage and saw what Christians did to them. I also realized that the Scandinavians were not alone (Native Americans).
you're an idiot. i bet you didn't care when people were talking s*** about bush. he was "your president." moron...you are the kind of idiotic person who likes to call Christians closed-minded and everything, but then YOU are closed-minded against Christianity.
oh, and how do you KNOW anything you know? i'm sure you think you "know" Obama was born in America, even though you have NO proof. you "know" evolution is real, but there's NO PROOF! YOU have faith in things but you don't see why we do.
@poprcksandcoke07 Yeah, fuck Bush, all he did was fuck up our country while people "like you" waved your flags. Christianity is inherently closed minded, that is why every objection you have to my superior ideology is simply your projection of the weakness of your ideology.
@spikesmth well, typical atheist/liberal. you don't even attempt to answer my question. you just say some other "smart" comment about how Christians are dumb. it's ALL you have. you don't wanna accept the fact that nothing you believe in is proven, you'd rather call me an idiot for showing the "weakness of my ideology." you have faith in effing science, but I am crazy for having faith in my religion???!!! Btw, you're NOT as smart as you are trying to appear to be, and it's obvious you're trying.
@poprcksandcoke07 So what DO I believe in... fuckin' faith heads think they can read people's minds. I'm asking you what I believe in because you haven't bothered to ask me. What is "effing?" Humans who speak English say, FUCKING.
@hannsenst Um, first, what the fuck is so complicated about the "Post" button? Second, yes hablo espanol mas o menos porque vivo en el gran estado de California. Third, Obama is OK... not excellent, but better than any other feasible alternative. Fourth, fuck your religion. Fifth... lol realy? 5 fucking posts?
espanol ehh??? el grrran estadou da california....jajaja
creo q sono asi... como es q dicen ustedes???
NO MAMES!!!! something like that ' cause I coincidentially know a little SPAGNOL too... (think its written that way). well I don't really care where you're from , but what REALLY MATTERS here is... i can't support someone who says something to be voted and then changes his/her mind after the campaign... someone like that can't be MY (whoever you want)...
@spikesmth BUT WAIT you're atheist. you shouldn't be supporting someone who's claiming to believe on any god..
i read you're kinda politician n' economist ...
why are you talking 'bout religion?
and it's supposed you don't give a shit 'bout this... do you?
ah, and... you should be talkin' bout political issues and leaving people and their believes alone. isn't the STATES a FREE country, n' there's a witness of it ... YOU... more evidence??
@hannsenst I do and say whatever the fuck I want... because this is a "free" country. But freedom in its most distilled form does not and cannot exist. I talk about religion because all the religious fucks out there need to know that I want them to fuck right off a cliff.
I give a shit about shitting on people who are stupid and wrong. Fuck your beliefs, but I cannot take them from you by force.
@poprcksandcoke07 When did I say religious people should all die?! This is just another one of your egocentric christian persecution delusions... try to ignore it when having discourse surrounding reality.
I know God exists because he and those who belong to him are the only ones who show REAL love. without God we don't know how to love. we think if we give to some charity somehow we are better people meanwhile we don't love those around us except our loved one's. Yes this is normal but our norm is twisted and science can never save this world! it can't make you a better friend,father,son,brother or lover! science is great and in fact shows the greatness of the creater.Ask me anything i'll anwser
@koalakiller24 Since according to another Christian I'm speaking with, the Devil has taken over the world, and God is omniscient and omnipotent, AND God has a plan... then it is part of God's perfect plan to have the Devil cause evil in the world. It then follows that the evil in the world is also part of god's plan and he approves of it. So it comes down to how did God evolve? I don't see any half God half porcupines running around. You are brainwashed by a "theory" lol.
AS far back as i can remember......the two oldest text of any kind Chinese and Hebrew....And the if I remember correctly the Chinese Literature dates back before Christ......The translations of BUDDA coincide with the Translations of the bible....LOOK IT UP BEFORE YOU ANSWER!!!!GOD spoke to Moses and lead his people out of Israel.Why do you Think this is ?The Coran was written by a man named ALA who made promises to men for men.....I think ALA read the bible first and Capitalized on GODS WORD.
@ToniD4Zajicek Are you saying that because language is older then the bible then therefore it's true?? rofl. the Quran is not written by Allah (you ignorant fuck) it was spoken by the "Prophet" Mohammad.
Whatever, this has gotten boring & ur just an asshole.. so...have a nice day & go play with someone else...I'm sure there are several people ur posts piss off or get riled up..so..I agree to disagree, plus all this typing back & forth is a pain in the ass...it makes 4 an interesting read, but hell, we're not getting paid 4 providing the public with such riveting entrainment, so, I bid u farewell, Good luck in life & enjoy the moment..peace out.
Check your facts! Christianity is a RELIGION, Islam is a complete way of life. That is , it is a religion, a governemt, and a complete way of life. If you read Sharia Law, Unbelievers MUST be put to death, period!Secondly, Obama, the Socia...list, and his administration is what is destroying this country. Our country was founded, and even states in the declaration of independence, that "if a government becomes so opressive, it is the right of the people to replace it or abolish it."
@ToniD4Zajicek Exactly, all your religions are full of failure.
What exactly has Obama policy done to you that has had a direct negative impact? What specific policies are socialist and how are they deleterious to our nation? How are you oppressed more now than during the previous decade?
I will continue to keep Mr. Obama and people like yourself in my thoughts and prayers, and be thankful that I am not consumed with petty and hateful thoughts towards anyone.
@spikesmth ...no sir, that is "your" platform.....hatred clouds your vision, you didn't take the time to read how it was put into context...you simply lash out blindly...and for what reason...if you posted on YouTube....it was meant to be viewed by others...right? you condemn Christians. because you say they are ignorant.... well, how exactly do you define ignorance? .....
@ToniD4Zajicek You Christians are so thin-skinned. I said the Bible was written by man and deserves no elevation above any other document, especially the Constitution. To you this is "Hate." Would you say "God Hates Fags" is really God's love, too? Fucking opposite world, i swear.
Ignorance, aside from the common definition, could also mean, certainty of the uncertain or unknowable.
@spikesmth okay...as if this is going to get thru your thick skin.....here we go, I did not elevate ANY DOCUMENT...ok...the HATE is you lashing out at me for commenting what my thoughts...GOD DOES NOT HATE FAGS, or anyone else for that matter, nor do I, but evidently you do...and for what reason....ok....then, is that how you define ignorance?.....the key word there are COULD also mean...not does also
@ToniD4Zajicek Oooh, CAPs, you're getting riled up aren't u :-)
All I did was rudely point out your fallacies, call the wahmbulance, it's hate hate hate.
We both know the main definition of ignorance, I was simply presenting an alternative usage.
Calling Christians ignorant is completely justified since educational achievement is inversely proportional to intensity of faith, many studies back this up.
God says to lie with another man is an abomination, sent to hell = hate in my book.
@spikesmth well geez...caps maybe can get you to know who I am talking about...riled? ..no...aggravated?....yes
I would not call that ignorance there isn't room for that old discussion on comments,...all I ever expect from anyone is the same that I would give them....everyone is entitled to an opinion, you are allowed for yours, why would you deny me the same courtesy?....
and i was simply presenting an alternative view.......God also says that through Jesus Christ ALL things are forgiven..
@ToniD4Zajicek You wouldn't call lack of education ignorance? What word would you use, wise? Come on, lol opposite world.
Where have I denied your ability to opine? All your comments stand and I have no reason to block you. I understand though, you're trained to play victim when someone isn't stupid enough to buy the same shit you do.
All things forgiven? So I can go out and murder my enemies then accept Jesus and suffer only eternal reward? No wonder religions fuck the world up so bad.
There are 2 sides to every story and on every coin....and Mr. Obama has shown his true face, it's the same on both sides of the coin................
A leader should lead with discernment, humility, grace, and dignity ....none of which Mr. Obama nor yourself, has shown any of.....only a mockery of things you do not understand, or cannot see ...I pity both of you..........
@ToniD4Zajicek Were you outraged at the "discernment, humility, grace, and dignity" of our previous president? Or does the Black guy really have to be twice as good to get half the respect?
@spikesmth As you proved my point, you attack with hatred and vulgarities....and for what reason...do you believe that makes your point come across more clearly?....
...ok....now it is "the Black guy"...maybe that is your real issue...color blinds you to any truths, as long as he is "the Black guy" you support him.....that doesn't make him right,that just makes him...well the 44th president.
@ToniD4Zajicek First, this video was posted before he was even inaugurated so at this point he had no track record to judge... just the speech I'm talking about.
Second, this comment is two questions... there is no profanity or any word that could be considered hateful.
3rd, I am accusing you of racial bias. White people hate to admit they're racist, but we all are so get over yourself. I'll ask again, were you outraged at Bush? Does he get a pass for being white &/or Christian?
@spikesmth I am white. I did not like Bush. He said that the religion of Islam and the Religion of Christianity worship the same God and that they had different ways of getting to God. There is only one way to God and That is through Jesus Christ, not because I say so but because he is the only begotten of the father and he and the father are one. Why do I believe that? Because you have to do 1 of 3 things with Christ:: 1 call him a liar, 2 call him a lunatic or call him Lord! More to come!
Moreover: The way you can come to a logical conclusion is that you examine the facts. 1) women were the first to tell that he had risen! 2) 11 of the original Apostles were put to horrible deaths in different countries because they would not renounce the name of Christ. 3) You might die for a lie that you believe to be true but you will never die for a lie that you know is a lie. All of the apostles had to do was say that they were lying and they would live. Are you understanding that?
@solomon3181969 If they wanted to maintain the lie they would be willing or even eager to sacrifice themselves for the good of their conspiracy. Maybe. I'll give you that they probably believed it... Jesus could still be a Liar Lunatic or Legend.
Well if that is the case, why would he, someone who was unfairly tried, and he who was given the punishment of death by one who said "I find no fault in him." be willing to die for a lie. By the way the man that said "I find no fault in him" was known for sending many JEWS to their deaths. Now this I am telling you, although recorded in the Bible is also part of not only Jewish but also Roman history. One source might get it wrong, three might sway the information but not three
@solomon3181969 This is another problem I have with you religious types, you always claim to know the minds of others, even your God. You have a brain, I assume, and I'm sure you understand how complex your own thought processes can be (I hope). How would you dare claim to know the motivations of 12 dead guys from 2000 years ago? They died for something they believed, so what? I maintain that this is no evidence for any divinity or supernatural agency.
They only had to say that they were lying and they would keep their lives. If they were lying why not just say so and live? If they made up the story why would each of them die horrible deaths in different countries because of the lie? Now to talk about how you replied to me. First, I have been extremely polite to you. I have not used any vulgarities. Extend to me the same respect. Now that being said. Everything has a foundation.
@solomon3181969 Re-fucking-lax, I haven't cussed at you yet, until now. Did you read my last comment? They might die for the lie to maintain it. In any case, just because 11 dudes died for something they probably did believe, provides no actual evidence for the accuracy of any of your silly legends. I'll give you the respect you deserve, I'll answer your questions as directly as space allows.
This country has a foundation as well and that foundation, whether you like it or not is rooted in principle. That principle is freedom and that freedom came through the only one our father's knew gave that freedom- THE SUPREME RULER OF THE UNIVERSE. Who is this "Supreme Ruler," as they understood him to be? It was Yahweh, God Almighty the blessed Trinity! God the Father, God The Son and God The Holy Spirit. Now that being said, I would like you to do something for me...
@solomon3181969 That's all nice and bed-time-story-ey, but again... no evidence except a fable tome. Are you saying that freedom doesn't exist unless a cosmic dictator decrees it? I would argue I'm more free than you given that I don't have an imaginary friend "telling" me what I can and can't do/say/think/be. The only limitations are imposed by our material reality.
What I would like for you to do for me is to say five words for the next 30 days. Do it only one time a day but do it for thirty days. the phrase I would like you to say is: "God Reveal yourself to me." This is very simple. It will not hurt you. It will not make you less cool. Say it when you are by yourself and if by the end of 30 days you have seen nothing, I'll will speak about this to you no more
@solomon3181969 Lol, I tried that shit when I was a kid. I also tried to stay up all night to catch Santa... all I determined is it was my parents. There's a logical explanation for everything... except religion :-)
I want you to this for me. Read the God Delusion, God is Not Great, the Origin of Species, Letter to a Christian Nation and a College Biology Textbook. If God keeps existing, seek medication.
@spikesmth uhhmmm....i am referring to you...ya know SPIKESMITH.....how many times have you cussed me...umm...let's recap....the first response I got back from you ...SPIKESMITH ..was "fuck you asshole"..let's see that's 2 right out of the box....and SPIKESMITH has been extremely HATEFUL....for what?????....HELLO...that has got to be some kind of definition of ignorance....geez dude take some prozac or something
you accuse me of alot of things, ....SPIKESMITH needs to get over himself....
@ToniD4Zajicek Do unto others. You: "you make yourself out to be just an opinionated, foulmouthed, uninformed and narrow-minded jerk"
OMG you're so full of hate. Fuck your shit bitch. I've never said I hate anything. As long as we're throwing empty accusations around... You hate atheists, you want them to be tortured because you have an evil heart because of your religion of malice. You hate anything that makes you uncomfortable. Learn to spell my name fuckin' idiot... reading, it works.
@spikesmth ...now you are quoting me....you must have some serious deep seeded anxiety issues or something...
life is to short to argue with you.....must be a pain to go thru life so angry ....I don't have to worry about you, I know who has my back.....I hope you calm down before bed time, enjoy your evening and Have a Blessed day.
@ToniD4Zajicek I was quoting your example of Christ's polite love. Lol, you think you know me and my problems... like I told Solomon, that's arrogant shit. You all think you know the minds of others.
First you are the victim of hate hate hate, but now you're above it all cuz your imaginary friend has your back, lol.
@spikesmth ok, Ignoring the obvious Intelligent Design that permeates life, scientists developed the theory of evolution in an effort to explain the origin of life via spontaneous generation. This theory is very distinctive. Scientists observe & interpret data & formulate conclusions based upon that data. Yet, evolutionists have formulated their "scientific" conclusion without resorting to any data at all. In fact, evolutionists have maintained their conclusion despite data to the contrary.
@ToniD4Zajicek Well now, if you want to get into evolution I'm glad to, but I will reply in PM if you don't mind. I'm sick of comment limitations. I'll even be respectful, just remember I'm an asshole not an educator so bear with me.
A true christian doesn't go around advertising their faith like a billboard you read,... a true christian is identified by their daily actions of grace, mercy, truth, peace and many others...u can see it, you don't have to read on their bumper stickers or hear them boast of being better than anyone, but most of all they do not have to take anything out of context to try and put something or someone down to make their beliefs or ideals look better.......
My friend,... if u don't know what your talking about, or you don't research before you... talk "shit" as u put it...then you make yourself out to be just an opinionated, foulmouthed, uninformed and narrow-minded jerk...read both the books Obama spoke of..., the facts are that he took just one out of context and left out any derogatory type remarks that are stated in the other.
With intellects like yours, its no wonder Obama got elected. A question for you...What makes the KORAN so special, that this President falls all over himself apologizing for its desecration? Try being a little more consistent in your arguments.
DerrickH1969 3 days ago
@DerrickH1969 What makes it "special" is that the Muslims are lunatic enough to bomb shit, potentially American assets. As strained as US/Arab relations are, I should expect any president worth a damn to nudge that 'tarded pastor and say "You have the right, but it's really not a good idea."
Of course if there were no religions at least half the reasons humans hate each other would go away and we could start focusing on the rest. I say burn all religion to the ground. Hail Science.
spikesmth 2 days ago
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bwsmith101 2 weeks ago
@bwsmith101 Try me, I do have a degree in economics and am highly math literate. I'm starting to think it is you who lacks the cognitive muscle to put together an explanation of this nonsense, or you would have done it and shut me up. Damn right I'm voting for Obama again... I'm not brain-damaged by religion and conservative indoctrination. The economy is gradually improving, because of Obama's policies (mostly). It could have gone more smoothly, but the GOP hates America.
spikesmth 2 weeks ago
Obama's policies are what is killing this country. He's spending over 1 trillion dollars in deficits for every year he has been in office. At this rate we will become Greece within 5 to 7 years. Obama is the one who hates America. That's why he is dividing it with all the class envy talk. In Obama's eyes it's payback time for America for all the prosperity we have had. If Obama really wanted to stimulate the economy he would simply turn in his resignation.
bwsmith101 1 week ago
@bwsmith101 I don't have a problem with cutting spending on things like debt financed wars started under republican administrations. But our long-tern revenue problems cannot be solved without taxing the rich and using that revenue on direct job creation. The rich STOLE their money off the labors of honest workers, it's time to even the score. Am I to suppose you earn more than $250K/y and your taxes stand to go up? I'm sure you're struggling as much as single moms with health needs.
spikesmth 1 week ago
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bwsmith101 2 weeks ago
God's signature is written through out his Word. Example, the second paragraph of Genesis has over 25 names of trees encoded into the hebrew text. Any mathmatician will tell you that this could NO WAY occur by man's ability. Hundreds if not thousands of historical events have been found in the text by computer. Like JFK. Hitler and the Halocaust. Apollo13. "Shoemaker" the asteroid that hit Jupiter in 1994. Assasination of Lincoln. "Chernoble" the nuclear meltdown in Russia in 1986. Or 911.
bwsmith101 2 weeks ago
@bwsmith101 Isn't it marvelous how God's word can predict the past with perfect 20-hindsight vision? What predictions does the Bible make about China? or Mars? (you do believe in Mars ((the planet, not the true god of war)) don't you?).
I'm awaiting your well written, well sourced PM to explain why ancient mythology is mathematically predictive of the future in a useful way. Until then, fuck off, retard.
spikesmth 2 weeks ago
@spikesmth The scripture was written before any of these events ever occured. Besides, even if man wanted to compose even a paragraph and encode just one event is impossible and beyond his capacity. The real problem is not proof. You know there is a God, but in your darkened heart you deny it because you don't want to be held accountable.
bwsmith101 2 weeks ago
@bwsmith101 Well if that's the explanation that convinces you that the Bible code predicts the future then you must be the most gullible idiot on the internet. And you're 42 years old?? lol, I thought people gained wisdom as they aged, not lunacy.
Don't tell me what I know. You know the great space worm Chu'Chinkep is the true creator of the universe, you just don't want to be accountable. Stop worshiping the false god jeebus and repent!
spikesmth 2 weeks ago
Jesus came to cure your sickness but if you don't believe you can't be saved!
AlbertEinstien18 2 weeks ago
@AlbertEinstien18 Saved from your delusions?
spikesmth 2 weeks ago
Christianity is The Faith In Jesus! His death and Salvation His Birth and Resurrection! I am not being hateful to you because you don't know any better.There Is A Creator.Obama Is he who Jesus wrote about the man of sin!Who is working to bring about 666!I'm not lieng and I write this to you so you may know!
AlbertEinstien18 2 weeks ago
@AlbertEinstien18 mmkay. I have no interest in the ramblings of crazy people. Jesus never existed, if you weren't mentally handicapped you'd be able to research the actual documentation of the time and see that your whole belief system is a sham. Who created the creator? If he doesn't need one, then the universe doesn't need one. It isn't Obama or the devil who are bringing down our country, it is sick people like you who can't tell fact from fiction.
spikesmth 2 weeks ago
The vulgar mouth shows your intelligence! End of discussion.
tkd4zgqg 3 weeks ago
@tkd4zgqg Being from Alabama shows your intelligence. I doubt your synapses posses the robustness required to apprehend the profound fractal wrongness of your own ad hominem blathering.
spikesmth 3 weeks ago
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TherealCitizenGhost 1 month ago
hey spikesmth i got 1 question for you. If Christianity is a bunch of babble and not true then why has it not been disproved in over 2000 years?
moneybgs15 2 months ago
@moneybgs15 Because it has been disproved thousands of times over 2000 years and contradicts itself internally.
spikesmth 1 month ago
@spikesmth
O has it? because if it has then there would be no reason to believe in it and Christianity would no longer exist. So you sir are incorrect, you can try again, if you'd like.
moneybgs15 1 month ago
@moneybgs15 Exactly, there is no reason to believe... as for it no longer existing... there will always be child indoctrination and gullible idiots, look at Scientology and Mormonism. All religions are the same. You see things don't become real just because they aren't disproved (though in this case much of it is). Unless you can disprove The Great Space Worm Chu'Chinkep then it must be real! Super cereal. Hail science or gtfo.
spikesmth 1 month ago
@moneybgs15 Care to address my accusation of internal contradictions? Chu'Chinkep demands it.
spikesmth 1 month ago
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@spikesmth
I just googled The Great Space Worm Chu'Chinkep and nothing came up you care to send me an article or something that can show me this? Also demanding anything will never get you anything hate to break it to ya. you say all religions are the same but if they are all the same there would be the same things in every religion, but from all the religions i have researched on they are VERY VERY different. haha you say hail science but what proves science to be correct... a bunch of people
moneybgs15 1 month ago
@moneybgs15
science is just a bunch of equations created by men told to be correct but there is no possible way to know for a fact. People are always going to disagree on science and religion and obviously there is no way to know for a FACT until we die, to know whether there is an afterlife or not, but for now i will continue to believe in Christianity until it has failed me. so God Bless have a good life.
moneybgs15 1 month ago
@moneybgs15 You ungrateful brat. Science has given you EVERYTHING material in your life, and probably your life itself. You say "fact," but when you use that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
In 500 characters explain how God & your Jesus myth is AT LEAST as credible (factual) as gravity or the theory of electromagnetism. Chu'Chinkep is watching you.
spikesmth 1 month ago
@moneybgs15 I see God believers are liars... even about something as trivial as Googling. If you google "Chu'Chinkep" there are two hits. Therefore it proves it's real. Fucking obvious, what kind of moron are you?
spikesmth 1 month ago
@spikesmth
haha you call me a brat yet you resort to using inferior curse words because you are mad that i am saying that Chu'Chinkep is not real because the only 2 results that pop up are youtube comments, and further more you call all God believers liars... how are they lying do you not believe in a man that lived named Jesus Christ? if so you might want to do some research of your own my good sir. Finally you have not said anything about me saying science was created by men for men and no
moneybgs15 1 month ago
@moneybgs15
way to know for a fact if they are truly correct. I will end with you sir are not willing to accept religion because you frankly do not want to. I refuse to continue this conversation. Have a good life sir and God Bless.
moneybgs15 1 month ago
@moneybgs15 Your solipsistic characterization of science is immature and useless. Are you saying there's no way to know for sure that Oxygen gas is O2 and Ozone is O3? That plants use light to photosynthesize glucose? That stars are giant fusion reactions so large they are contained by their own gravity?
You're right, I don't want to accept religion because I don't want to believe things that are not true. Run away now, your ancient woowoo is not welcome in the world of modern man.
spikesmth 1 month ago
@moneybgs15 You lied when you said you Googled it and came up with no results. Isn't that one of your commandments? To claim that Jesus was real is a lie. Give me ONE contemporary account of his existence, please. Good luck, since there are none. Whether or not Jesus was (based on) a real person(s), speaks nothing about his supposed divinity. I find it quaint a Christian is telling me to do research lol.
spikesmth 1 month ago
man if you were chocolate you would it eat yourself and your so called science always changes just as you with whatever is the new opinion. you are all so arrogant with your ever changing ideas you all stand for nothing and fall for anything.your arrogance=there is nothing above me i a greater than all ????who pissed in your wheaties when you were a child ?????didnt get your way ...things went wrong so you find something to blame it on and use your anger in the name of science.see a shrink
terrystratenberger 3 months ago
@terrystratenberger I don't like chocolate thank you. Religious people play the blame game too. Atheists aren't better people per se, we're just righter. Hail Science.
spikesmth 3 months ago
Better question to you is why why why would a president need to or find it appropriate to talk about the Bible,or religion for that matter...This country was once The Great ,untouchable land of plenty ...it is and will be brought down because we have taken God out of everything........doesn't matter if you believe ,,,seeing is believing RIGHT?
sugahface 1 year ago
@sugahface It does matter what you believe if you care what is true. The idea that this country was "great and untouchable" is a myth.
spikesmth 1 year ago
hmm you say it does matter what you believe if you care what it is ? love to know why you think that.......... and why the hell do you care if others believe in the bible... bash something just because you don't believe in it WOW .. then you go on to say that the guy refused to acknowledge evolution hmmmm JUST LIKE YOU refuse to acknowledge the bible you are a confused hypocrite.
sugahface 1 year ago
@sugahface lol, not "if you care what it is," i said if you care what is TRUE. I don't mind belief in the Bible in and of itself so much as using that belief to justify ignorance and otherwise shitty behavior. If belief in the Babble leads people away from scientific understanding then it must go.
Only an imbecile would consider the Bible and evolution to be comparable subjects. Evidence or GTFO. Hail Science.
spikesmth 1 year ago
Just in case you're not going read what it says in the bible...psalm 53 verse 1 says THE FOOL HAS SAID IN HIS HEART, THERE IS NO GOD, CORRUPT ARE THEY, (You are corrupted for saying and thinking such things) AND HAVE DONE ABOMINABLE INIQUITY: THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD...however there's still hope for people like U and others who don't believe and mocks the idea and I'll be praying for you and others
shokenichi1 1 year ago
@shokenichi1 HAHAHA, your silly Bible is like a child's coloring book compared to the 3 Laws.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth Please, for the Love of God open your mind and your heart and your soul. At least give a glance in the direction of the opposing view. Your everlasting soul is worth observing all possibilities. What if you're wrong? What if the reason there are so many things wrong in our lives is because there is an enemy that has us all pitted against each other. Half of us don't believe he exists and the other half are busy trying to convince them he does rather than serving God. A genious plan.
TherealCitizenGhost 1 month ago
@TherealCitizenGhost What's an everlasting soul? Fiction, so as far as I can tell. I know what that enemy is... it's the stern & sincere belief in invisible supernatural powers, God & Satan, Popocatepetl and Baal, all of it. It is an enemy I will not love because it is eroding human potential. It is is designed to erode human potential. "Serving God" is just a euphamism for doing what you want at the expense of others. Stoneage mythology is laughed at in the 21st century.
spikesmth 1 month ago
@spikesmth Your everlasting soul is the part of you that goes on after the flesh has died. But you seem to have it all figured out. I wish you well. In the mean time just know that not serving God is the real euphamism for doing what you want while ignoring the consequences. I have done my God's bidding by asking you to rethink. Keep in mind, Hell has no exits and the worse part of being there is knowing you did not have to go. God sends no one to Hell. Reject Jesus Christ and you send yourself.
TherealCitizenGhost 1 month ago
@TherealCitizenGhost Are you saying my BONES will carry my consciousness?? That's fucking wild (and retarded).
I don't ignore consequences, YOU ignore real world consequences in favor of your imagined after-life "consequences."
Learn to spell. "Hell has no exits" I think you mean, Hell has no exist.
I do not posses the power to create an afterlife and determine what happens to "souls" after they are free from reality. Only your god character does. He made the rules right?
spikesmth 1 month ago
@spikesmth It wasn't my intention to activate your inner rage. You're right, believing your bones "carry your consciousness" would indicate a mental deficiency....LOL!! which is why that's not what I said. No big deal. But "Hell has no exist"? Really? And you're worried about my spelling? LOL!! I have been respectful, dude. As God expects of me. So whatever, have a nice life.
TherealCitizenGhost 1 month ago
@TherealCitizenGhost It's rather insulting that you think I'd be stupid enough to believe in fairies and satan and shit. Our bones are all that carries on after the flesh is gone so I don't know how else that supposed to be interpreted. So yeah, fall back with your blood cult. Hail Science.
spikesmth 1 month ago
First of all spikemth read psalms 53. second LOOK AROUND YOU there is evidence everywhere...consider the stars, animals, etc
shokenichi1 1 year ago
chromosomes with apes, Sheeeeh Man, WAKE UP, we share the stinkin' same number of chromosomes with tobacco plants, does that make you a vegetable if you shared the same number of stinkin, chromos in tomatoes, HELLLOOOOO, smell the coffeee, quit listening to scientrollogy and study Intelligent Design for a change.
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 We have 1 less chromosome pair than Chimps which suggests chimp chroms fused to produce the human karyotype. It's well documented down to the specific point of fusion, but that requires reading ability so I wouldn't expect you to know that.
Tobacco plants have 46 chromosomes b/c of their own unique lineage which is obviously different than humans and apes given that they're fucking plants. What is to study in ID? Jesus sneezed our apendixes into infection?
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth Look, i don,t have time for scientrollogy, i love science, you don't and ...it's ok, you also love religion more than me apparently, don't waste your time trying to pull me back into that religiosity of evolution, i have been debriefed and was affected by years of brainewashing in our secular idiotic schools, if you love theh status quo for your brains, i will respect you for that but man, i am so far gone from the eugenist programs you can't even start to comprehend, Jesus bless you
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 *sigh* w/e man... lunatic ramblings just like Jared Loughner. I think time will demonstrate that creationism is a maladaptive trait and it will be phased out of our species naturally. Hail Science or gtfo.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth Yeah yeah yeah , worship science which is a tool that devised by man to measure and understand the works of God, your insults only show your degree of intellectual insecurity, i think you should make your coffee stronger and really decipher what you read and reevaluate what you hold dear as truth, you are not even equipped to defend your faith in scientrollogy and atheism, just as the emperor has no clothes...if you thought you were in a debate, you never even started yet...
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 You must think you're so clever with "scientrollogy." I can only assume you've ramped up to the 135mm IMAX projection at this point.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth Court rules atheism a religion
Decides 1st Amendment protects prison inmate's right to start study group
A federal court of appeals ruled yesterday Wisconsin prison officials violated an inmate's rights because they did not treat atheism as a religion. (WND)
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 Court rules Gays can't marry... therefore... so fucking what? For someone who obeys God's law you seem to put a lot of weight on man's courts.
spikesmth 1 year ago
Propheticly, it has more than 300 prophecies that were fulfilled with 100% acuracy at the 1st coming of Jesus Christ (place of birth, betrayal, manner of death, etc) now we have 1145 prophecies about His second coming that are being fulfilled as we speak and they are just as precise as those of the 1st coming indicating that the Bible is indeed the Word of God mathematicly, only 8 of the 300 prophecies fulfilled meant 1 chance out of trillion trillions, trillions trillions, Jesus is Who He says
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 Lol, you say trillions^4 as if you have the faintest comprehension of what that number is. No wonder you believe in fairies and ghosts. I find "Goodnight Moon" to be much more fulfilling and accurate than the Bible.
Jesus is the Devil, revealed to me through holy divination from the fractal Lord Shabadoobie. Prove me wrong or have your own shit hosed into your mouth for eternity! Lol, nutters, how do they work?
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth Actually, if you are an atheist or even , a secular humanist, you would be the religious guys here, both atheism and secular humanism are declared religions either by the state or in plain sight in their charts. Jesus Christ is not a religion nor a fairy tale, He is God and there is a mountain of evidence in the Bible, outside the Bible and in archeology for the claims of the Bible that you clearly ignore but no one forces you to believe Him, even He would not force Himself on you.
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 The same reason that Shabadoobie is ridiculous to you is the same reason the Bible is ridiculous to me. If I say Harry Potter is not a fairy tale you'd think I was crazy. There is actual evidence of Hogwart's Castle... in the fictional writings of a human author.
I maintain my null position because no satisfactory evidence has been presented. Crazy street people ramble about your kind of schizoid nonsense. You hide from reality and your own humanity.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth I guess you love religion more than me pal, Christ and the claims made in the Bible have factual evidence to back everything up, you still got zilch, nad, zero and diddly squat with a missing chain for evolution which is more of a sunken boat, amazing that people still willingly believe in that fairy tale for adults, you haven't heard of the court case for Christ presented by Simon Greenleaf yet....oh but don't believe me, that's fine, it's easier to believe those who are deceived
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 Your projection makes me lol
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth They all react like you when we tell themm they are in a sect without their own knowledge, they dismiss reality, i bet you haven't noticed that i wrote that atheism and secular humanism are both religions, right?
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 I did notice, but I figured the obvious response that, no they aren't "religions" hasn't gotten through to you so far so I might as well follow the rabbit.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth I' ll let you do your homework on this, mine is done and i hate religion probably more than you do actually, at any rate, read the humanist manifesto for starters, written clearly right in it
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 I'm still open to information. You are closed. Thanks for admitting it. Your religion-culture is obsolete and is being quitely cast aside by 21st century civilized societies.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth You haven't read the humanist manifesto yet, have you?
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 What relevance has that to my beliefs?
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth Well well well, it is clear to me that you are either ignorant that you are a religious person or you are willingly ignorant that you are in 2 satanic sects, at any rate, you bought the lie that you came from an animal and you say i believe in stinkin' fairy tales??? I do my homework in everything but it seems too hard for you to read your humanist manifesto, they put a white coat on, call themselves scientists and you believe them when they tell you that we share theh same number of
Serge1965 1 year ago
The Bible is not just one book but 66 books pened by 40 guys of varying backgrounds over a 1500 years span, in 3 languages, in varying cities and varying countries, all 66 books from Genesis to the last book called Revelation are coherent in this that they have this central theme, the promised Messiah, the Messiah that came as prophesied in the OT, the Messiah that died as prophesied and rose again to ascend back where He came from and who has given all the signs of His soon 2nd coming,
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 Mmm yea, 1500 years... no time for editing for consistency or bending/inventing plots. Central theme coherent... ok most stories work that way. What isn't coherent is walking on water or using magic to split an ocean and annihilate an army. I'm sure the New Testament writers had no idea of the OT predictions so it couldn't have possibly influenced their work.. oh wait.
What does Jesus say about the relationship of Australopithecus to Modern Apes & Humans and other similar fossils?
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth If you put God in a box so you can understand Him, you're then making Him in your own image. Logicly, if God can create human beings and planets and nature and still be involved in the development of a foetus over 9 months, i don't think He needs billions of years to bring a human being to full development of body, mind, soul, and spirit, i was created to have dominion over the animals, not to be seduced with the unprovable idea that i was one of them once or evolved from slime
Serge1965 1 year ago
@Serge1965 The problem is that the concept of God is unboxable, undefinable, unprovable, unnecessary and of dubious utility yet you insist its validity over verifiable observable facts like biology, chemistry, physics. God is invented by man just like Zeus or Isis.
I will ignore your ignorance of science to maintain civility.
I am very concerned that the inspiration for your purpose yields too many negative externalities. It's people trying their damnedest to separate themselves from reality.
spikesmth 1 year ago
Its called The Buy Bull. Its full of B.S.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
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Why do you believe in evolution? Do you trust the scientists who have gathered the data? If so, you have more faith than Christians. I think YOU are the sheep!
lonemapper 1 year ago
Tell me. What is proof enough for you that there is no God. I'm a little curious?
koalakiller24 1 year ago
@koalakiller24 The proof is that no satisfactory proof or evidence of the God claim has been given. I do not reject the null. If you have the evidence I'll look at it, but if it relies on rhetoric instead of hard facts it will be rejected. The burden of proof is on the positive claim, that there IS a God... what say you?
Fuck religion, hail science.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@koalakiller24 your an idiot
slyder1218 1 year ago
@tariqhaque1317 LOL Tardo. If you do not Hail Science the Ghost of Darwin will use your soul in cosmic experiments for eternity... whoohoooo.
spikesmth 1 year ago
this guys right i mean the book is 2000 years old things have been GREATLY exaggerated and things have been edited to match peoples beliefs and refusing to acknowledge evolution?you guys got your heads so far up god's ass
eh spike smith doesnt it piss you off when people mock evolution and laugh at it fucking annoying! they act like that because if they dont make fun of it people will take it seriously and thats what they fear. all you go suck a bible!
KAIJUFREAK116 1 year ago
this guys right i mean the book is 2000 years old things have been GREATLY exaggerated and things have been edited to match peoples beliefs and refusing to acknowledge evolution?you guys got your heads so far up god's ass
eh spike smith doesnt it piss you off when people mock evolution and laugh at it fucking annoying! they act like that because if they dont make fun of it people will take it seriously and thats what they fear.
KAIJUFREAK116 1 year ago
@tariqhaque1317 I know right from wrong because Im not a douchebag dude im not a puppet...If you need someone to hold your hand and tell you right from wrong then I feel sorry for you you are a zombie...or a 4 year old at least
KAIJUFREAK116 1 year ago
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shut up you crack head
Godistheway1000 1 year ago
@tariqhaque1317 You don't know right from wrong, you just say "it's in the book so it's right!"
God is a cardiac tatooist now? wtf man. Use plain english. Your fucking religion-talk is all retarded and shit. Every test for God has failed. Every religion fails at making the world better. Religious people can fuck off and let the grown ups run this shit.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@tariqhaque1317 So your reason is...? what? I don't understand what that is about, considering it's out of context and irrelevant to modern reality.
Your reason is 2 lines of a book.
My reason is because I care about the welfare of mankind. I make the judgments weighing my cost/benefit to that of others. It is not perfect, and nobody expects it to be. Our main difference is that I care about real life, you care about your dream-world afterlife at the expense of this life.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@tariqhaque1317 We have one life and we face the consequences set forth by our environment. Rapists generally don't fare well in our civilized society because we don't allow them to. I can only assume you are projecting your character in the absence of god. If there was no God and you could rape someone and get away with it would you?
Consequences will never be same. Hail Science, the only honest moral position.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@tariqhaque1317 Your bible verses are irrelevant. As long as you are going to pick and choose, why not just make it up all by yourself? Or does that book do all the thinking for you?
spikesmth 1 year ago
@tariqhaque1317 The mind (the closest thing to a soul that DOES exist) cannot be removed from its hardware. In this case it is a valid analogy.
What's so sad about no souls? Were you sad when you found out there's no Tooth Fairy?
God is nothing, there's nothing to be separate from, except from your fellow human beings and nature, which your religion is quite effective at doing.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@tariqhaque1317 Does Windows go to heaven when your HD is destroyed? lol.
There is no evidence for souls, so you're making an unjustified assertion.
Unholy is a meaningless word. Is Ebola holy or unholy? Is decay through fungal growth holy or unholy? Is shitting blood holy or unholy? Is a bleeding vag holy or unholy?
Rape Repent Repeat... that is Christianity even if you don't see it that way. I am objective, you are brainwashed. Your bible is the only filthy thing here.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@tariqhaque1317 Nobody goes to heaven. We all return to the earth. Are you saying my desire for sex is bad or wrong? Are you saying that the very state of humanity is in some way negative? I've "sinned" sure, but I'm still alive, so you & ur religion are wrong there. But since Jesus was already punished, i guess that means there are no consequences, let's all go rape repent repeat. Lol, your religion-think makes me rage and laugh at the same time.
Hail Science or gtfo.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@tariqhaque1317 Lord of the Rings is prophetic too. The word of God is nonsense... doubt you've even read that stupid book (if you CAN read).
spikesmth 1 year ago
What ever happened to separation of church and state? Our forefathers are rolling in their graves right now on how entangled church and state really is, In god we trust is on the dollar bill for fuck's sake.I was raised christian then I woke up and smelled the frankincense. I saw that Christians are a bunch of bullies. I realized this when I looked into my own Scandinavian heritage and saw what Christians did to them. I also realized that the Scandinavians were not alone (Native Americans).
asatruviking 1 year ago
you're an idiot. i bet you didn't care when people were talking s*** about bush. he was "your president." moron...you are the kind of idiotic person who likes to call Christians closed-minded and everything, but then YOU are closed-minded against Christianity.
oh, and how do you KNOW anything you know? i'm sure you think you "know" Obama was born in America, even though you have NO proof. you "know" evolution is real, but there's NO PROOF! YOU have faith in things but you don't see why we do.
poprcksandcoke07 1 year ago
@poprcksandcoke07 Yeah, fuck Bush, all he did was fuck up our country while people "like you" waved your flags. Christianity is inherently closed minded, that is why every objection you have to my superior ideology is simply your projection of the weakness of your ideology.
Hail Science.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth well, typical atheist/liberal. you don't even attempt to answer my question. you just say some other "smart" comment about how Christians are dumb. it's ALL you have. you don't wanna accept the fact that nothing you believe in is proven, you'd rather call me an idiot for showing the "weakness of my ideology." you have faith in effing science, but I am crazy for having faith in my religion???!!! Btw, you're NOT as smart as you are trying to appear to be, and it's obvious you're trying.
poprcksandcoke07 1 year ago
@poprcksandcoke07 So what DO I believe in... fuckin' faith heads think they can read people's minds. I'm asking you what I believe in because you haven't bothered to ask me. What is "effing?" Humans who speak English say, FUCKING.
spikesmth 1 year ago
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entiendo porq estas enojado con lo de la arrogancia de Obama...
es simple... tambien eres un arrogante como el ...
ahora... de donde eres para estar diciendo q el es tu presidente?
por lo menos no pareces uno de ellos .. te pareces mas a los vecinos del sur...
quien sabe... depronto te deporten... y en ese momento pidele a tu presidente que te ayude...
I'M TOTALLY SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I POSTED, AT LEAST YOUR RELATIVES DO!!!
hannsenst 1 year ago
entiendo porq estas enojado con lo de la arrogancia de Obama...
es simple... tambien eres un arrogante como el ...
ahora... de donde eres para estar diciendo q el es tu presidente?
por lo menos no pareces uno de ellos .. te pareces mas a los vecinos del sur...
quien sabe... depronto te deporten... y en ese momento pidele a tu presidente que te ayude...
I'M TOTALLY SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I POSTED, AT LEAST YOUR RELATIVES DO!!!
hannsenst 1 year ago
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entiendo porq estas enojado con lo de la arrogancia de Obama...
es simple... tambien eres un arrogante como el ...
ahora... de donde eres para estar diciendo q el es tu presidente?
por lo menos no pareces uno de ellos .. te pareces mas a los vecinos del sur...
quien sabe... depronto te deporten... y en ese momento pidele a tu presidente que te ayude...
I'M TOTALLY SURE YOOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I POSTED, AT LEAST YOUR RELATIVES DO!!!
hannsenst 1 year ago
entiendo porq estas enojado con lo de la arrogancia de Obama...
es simple... tambien eres un arrogante como el ...
ahora... de donde eres para estar diciendo q el es tu presidente?
por lo menos no pareces uno de ellos .. te pareces mas a los vecinos del sur...
quien sabe... depronto te deporten... y en ese momento pidele a tu presidente que te ayude...
I'M TOTALLY SURE YOOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I POSTED, AT LEAST YOUR RELATIVES DO!!!
hannsenst 1 year ago
Now I know why you feel offended 'bout Obama's arrogance...
'cause everything you do, the way you talk , your gestures, the shit you talk...
show that you're ARROGANT too, don't you...
and... where're you from? to say PEACE OUT?
are you illegal??? OH, WAIT ... he's gonna TAKE U OUT of the STATES...
YEAH... that's your president.... CONGRATULATIONS...
hannsenst 1 year ago
@hannsenst Um, first, what the fuck is so complicated about the "Post" button? Second, yes hablo espanol mas o menos porque vivo en el gran estado de California. Third, Obama is OK... not excellent, but better than any other feasible alternative. Fourth, fuck your religion. Fifth... lol realy? 5 fucking posts?
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth yeah.. my bad...
espanol ehh??? el grrran estadou da california....jajaja
creo q sono asi... como es q dicen ustedes???
NO MAMES!!!! something like that ' cause I coincidentially know a little SPAGNOL too... (think its written that way). well I don't really care where you're from , but what REALLY MATTERS here is... i can't support someone who says something to be voted and then changes his/her mind after the campaign... someone like that can't be MY (whoever you want)...
hannsenst 1 year ago
@spikesmth BUT WAIT you're atheist. you shouldn't be supporting someone who's claiming to believe on any god..
i read you're kinda politician n' economist ...
why are you talking 'bout religion?
and it's supposed you don't give a shit 'bout this... do you?
ah, and... you should be talkin' bout political issues and leaving people and their believes alone. isn't the STATES a FREE country, n' there's a witness of it ... YOU... more evidence??
hannsenst 1 year ago
@hannsenst I do and say whatever the fuck I want... because this is a "free" country. But freedom in its most distilled form does not and cannot exist. I talk about religion because all the religious fucks out there need to know that I want them to fuck right off a cliff.
I give a shit about shitting on people who are stupid and wrong. Fuck your beliefs, but I cannot take them from you by force.
spikesmth 1 year ago
so you're wasting your time here...
you're like a kid whose parents dont pay attention...
so you say anything stupid.. with that arrogance and seriousness that
characterizes you to call the rest of pople's attention...
you got the makings of being convincing... but...
i though you had arguments... without arguments you're nothing...
your heart is in your brain... like a girl does...
hannsenst 1 year ago
@hannsenst K whatever... I wasn't even trying to argue anything in this video. It seems your comprehension is deficient.
spikesmth 1 year ago
sure man...
hannsenst 1 year ago
@spikesmth so you want freedom for people like you, but all the religious people should just die??? wow...you need to move to another country.
you'll regret saying these things one day. it's sad. and you know what? even though you hate me, I don't hate you. i'm praying for you.
poprcksandcoke07 1 year ago
@poprcksandcoke07 When did I say religious people should all die?! This is just another one of your egocentric christian persecution delusions... try to ignore it when having discourse surrounding reality.
spikesmth 1 year ago
can evolution explain the woodpecker?
dramhidel 1 year ago
@dramhidel Yes
spikesmth 1 year ago
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@spikesmth i have yet to see this "proof"
dramhidel 1 year ago
I know God exists because he and those who belong to him are the only ones who show REAL love. without God we don't know how to love. we think if we give to some charity somehow we are better people meanwhile we don't love those around us except our loved one's. Yes this is normal but our norm is twisted and science can never save this world! it can't make you a better friend,father,son,brother or lover! science is great and in fact shows the greatness of the creater.Ask me anything i'll anwser
koalakiller24 1 year ago
@koalakiller24 Since according to another Christian I'm speaking with, the Devil has taken over the world, and God is omniscient and omnipotent, AND God has a plan... then it is part of God's perfect plan to have the Devil cause evil in the world. It then follows that the evil in the world is also part of god's plan and he approves of it. So it comes down to how did God evolve? I don't see any half God half porcupines running around. You are brainwashed by a "theory" lol.
spikesmth 1 year ago
Just watched the first 30sec, can't go on. This guy is SOOOO ignorant!
SanDiegoFKNROCKS 1 year ago
AS far back as i can remember......the two oldest text of any kind Chinese and Hebrew....And the if I remember correctly the Chinese Literature dates back before Christ......The translations of BUDDA coincide with the Translations of the bible....LOOK IT UP BEFORE YOU ANSWER!!!!GOD spoke to Moses and lead his people out of Israel.Why do you Think this is ?The Coran was written by a man named ALA who made promises to men for men.....I think ALA read the bible first and Capitalized on GODS WORD.
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek Are you saying that because language is older then the bible then therefore it's true?? rofl. the Quran is not written by Allah (you ignorant fuck) it was spoken by the "Prophet" Mohammad.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth Good morning,
u arrogant fuck..lmao
Whatever, this has gotten boring & ur just an asshole.. so...have a nice day & go play with someone else...I'm sure there are several people ur posts piss off or get riled up..so..I agree to disagree, plus all this typing back & forth is a pain in the ass...it makes 4 an interesting read, but hell, we're not getting paid 4 providing the public with such riveting entrainment, so, I bid u farewell, Good luck in life & enjoy the moment..peace out.
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
HEY SPIKE: Do you know the definition of ignorance and arrogance ?
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek Answer my questions and I'll answer yours.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth I'M NOT Toni.....
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek O.o u trollin?
spikesmth 1 year ago
Check your facts! Christianity is a RELIGION, Islam is a complete way of life. That is , it is a religion, a governemt, and a complete way of life. If you read Sharia Law, Unbelievers MUST be put to death, period!Secondly, Obama, the Socia...list, and his administration is what is destroying this country. Our country was founded, and even states in the declaration of independence, that "if a government becomes so opressive, it is the right of the people to replace it or abolish it."
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek Exactly, all your religions are full of failure.
What exactly has Obama policy done to you that has had a direct negative impact? What specific policies are socialist and how are they deleterious to our nation? How are you oppressed more now than during the previous decade?
spikesmth 1 year ago
I will continue to keep Mr. Obama and people like yourself in my thoughts and prayers, and be thankful that I am not consumed with petty and hateful thoughts towards anyone.
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek Yep, that's Obama's platform, pettiness and hate. Fuckin' idiot, PAY me don't PRAY for me.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth ...no sir, that is "your" platform.....hatred clouds your vision, you didn't take the time to read how it was put into context...you simply lash out blindly...and for what reason...if you posted on YouTube....it was meant to be viewed by others...right? you condemn Christians. because you say they are ignorant.... well, how exactly do you define ignorance? .....
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek You Christians are so thin-skinned. I said the Bible was written by man and deserves no elevation above any other document, especially the Constitution. To you this is "Hate." Would you say "God Hates Fags" is really God's love, too? Fucking opposite world, i swear.
Ignorance, aside from the common definition, could also mean, certainty of the uncertain or unknowable.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth okay...as if this is going to get thru your thick skin.....here we go, I did not elevate ANY DOCUMENT...ok...the HATE is you lashing out at me for commenting what my thoughts...GOD DOES NOT HATE FAGS, or anyone else for that matter, nor do I, but evidently you do...and for what reason....ok....then, is that how you define ignorance?.....the key word there are COULD also mean...not does also
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek Oooh, CAPs, you're getting riled up aren't u :-)
All I did was rudely point out your fallacies, call the wahmbulance, it's hate hate hate.
We both know the main definition of ignorance, I was simply presenting an alternative usage.
Calling Christians ignorant is completely justified since educational achievement is inversely proportional to intensity of faith, many studies back this up.
God says to lie with another man is an abomination, sent to hell = hate in my book.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth well geez...caps maybe can get you to know who I am talking about...riled? ..no...aggravated?....yes
I would not call that ignorance there isn't room for that old discussion on comments,...all I ever expect from anyone is the same that I would give them....everyone is entitled to an opinion, you are allowed for yours, why would you deny me the same courtesy?....
and i was simply presenting an alternative view.......God also says that through Jesus Christ ALL things are forgiven..
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek You wouldn't call lack of education ignorance? What word would you use, wise? Come on, lol opposite world.
Where have I denied your ability to opine? All your comments stand and I have no reason to block you. I understand though, you're trained to play victim when someone isn't stupid enough to buy the same shit you do.
All things forgiven? So I can go out and murder my enemies then accept Jesus and suffer only eternal reward? No wonder religions fuck the world up so bad.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth and why on earth would I PAY someone for something that is incomplete and ugly?
you put out your beliefs and you get haughty and rude toward someone who offers another view....
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
There are 2 sides to every story and on every coin....and Mr. Obama has shown his true face, it's the same on both sides of the coin................
A leader should lead with discernment, humility, grace, and dignity ....none of which Mr. Obama nor yourself, has shown any of.....only a mockery of things you do not understand, or cannot see ...I pity both of you..........
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek Were you outraged at the "discernment, humility, grace, and dignity" of our previous president? Or does the Black guy really have to be twice as good to get half the respect?
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth As you proved my point, you attack with hatred and vulgarities....and for what reason...do you believe that makes your point come across more clearly?....
...ok....now it is "the Black guy"...maybe that is your real issue...color blinds you to any truths, as long as he is "the Black guy" you support him.....that doesn't make him right,that just makes him...well the 44th president.
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek First, this video was posted before he was even inaugurated so at this point he had no track record to judge... just the speech I'm talking about.
Second, this comment is two questions... there is no profanity or any word that could be considered hateful.
3rd, I am accusing you of racial bias. White people hate to admit they're racist, but we all are so get over yourself. I'll ask again, were you outraged at Bush? Does he get a pass for being white &/or Christian?
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth I am white. I did not like Bush. He said that the religion of Islam and the Religion of Christianity worship the same God and that they had different ways of getting to God. There is only one way to God and That is through Jesus Christ, not because I say so but because he is the only begotten of the father and he and the father are one. Why do I believe that? Because you have to do 1 of 3 things with Christ:: 1 call him a liar, 2 call him a lunatic or call him Lord! More to come!
solomon3181969 1 year ago
@solomon3181969 Actually there's 4 things... Legend. Funny how you guys always omit the most convenient factors in any argument you present.
spikesmth 1 year ago
If it were legend why is there the same legend written by historians that did not even believe in Jesus?
solomon3181969 1 year ago
Moreover: The way you can come to a logical conclusion is that you examine the facts. 1) women were the first to tell that he had risen! 2) 11 of the original Apostles were put to horrible deaths in different countries because they would not renounce the name of Christ. 3) You might die for a lie that you believe to be true but you will never die for a lie that you know is a lie. All of the apostles had to do was say that they were lying and they would live. Are you understanding that?
solomon3181969 1 year ago
@solomon3181969 Some might die for a lie they knew was a lie in order to maintain the lie.
spikesmth 1 year ago
Not if they knew it to be a lie. That is absurd. And definitely not 12 each in different countries!
solomon3181969 1 year ago
@solomon3181969 If they wanted to maintain the lie they would be willing or even eager to sacrifice themselves for the good of their conspiracy. Maybe. I'll give you that they probably believed it... Jesus could still be a Liar Lunatic or Legend.
spikesmth 1 year ago
Well if that is the case, why would he, someone who was unfairly tried, and he who was given the punishment of death by one who said "I find no fault in him." be willing to die for a lie. By the way the man that said "I find no fault in him" was known for sending many JEWS to their deaths. Now this I am telling you, although recorded in the Bible is also part of not only Jewish but also Roman history. One source might get it wrong, three might sway the information but not three
solomon3181969 1 year ago
@solomon3181969 This is another problem I have with you religious types, you always claim to know the minds of others, even your God. You have a brain, I assume, and I'm sure you understand how complex your own thought processes can be (I hope). How would you dare claim to know the motivations of 12 dead guys from 2000 years ago? They died for something they believed, so what? I maintain that this is no evidence for any divinity or supernatural agency.
spikesmth 1 year ago
They only had to say that they were lying and they would keep their lives. If they were lying why not just say so and live? If they made up the story why would each of them die horrible deaths in different countries because of the lie? Now to talk about how you replied to me. First, I have been extremely polite to you. I have not used any vulgarities. Extend to me the same respect. Now that being said. Everything has a foundation.
solomon3181969 1 year ago
@solomon3181969 Re-fucking-lax, I haven't cussed at you yet, until now. Did you read my last comment? They might die for the lie to maintain it. In any case, just because 11 dudes died for something they probably did believe, provides no actual evidence for the accuracy of any of your silly legends. I'll give you the respect you deserve, I'll answer your questions as directly as space allows.
spikesmth 1 year ago
This country has a foundation as well and that foundation, whether you like it or not is rooted in principle. That principle is freedom and that freedom came through the only one our father's knew gave that freedom- THE SUPREME RULER OF THE UNIVERSE. Who is this "Supreme Ruler," as they understood him to be? It was Yahweh, God Almighty the blessed Trinity! God the Father, God The Son and God The Holy Spirit. Now that being said, I would like you to do something for me...
solomon3181969 1 year ago
@solomon3181969 That's all nice and bed-time-story-ey, but again... no evidence except a fable tome. Are you saying that freedom doesn't exist unless a cosmic dictator decrees it? I would argue I'm more free than you given that I don't have an imaginary friend "telling" me what I can and can't do/say/think/be. The only limitations are imposed by our material reality.
spikesmth 1 year ago
What I would like for you to do for me is to say five words for the next 30 days. Do it only one time a day but do it for thirty days. the phrase I would like you to say is: "God Reveal yourself to me." This is very simple. It will not hurt you. It will not make you less cool. Say it when you are by yourself and if by the end of 30 days you have seen nothing, I'll will speak about this to you no more
solomon3181969 1 year ago
@solomon3181969 Lol, I tried that shit when I was a kid. I also tried to stay up all night to catch Santa... all I determined is it was my parents. There's a logical explanation for everything... except religion :-)
I want you to this for me. Read the God Delusion, God is Not Great, the Origin of Species, Letter to a Christian Nation and a College Biology Textbook. If God keeps existing, seek medication.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth uhhmmm....i am referring to you...ya know SPIKESMITH.....how many times have you cussed me...umm...let's recap....the first response I got back from you ...SPIKESMITH ..was "fuck you asshole"..let's see that's 2 right out of the box....and SPIKESMITH has been extremely HATEFUL....for what?????....HELLO...that has got to be some kind of definition of ignorance....geez dude take some prozac or something
you accuse me of alot of things, ....SPIKESMITH needs to get over himself....
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek Do unto others. You: "you make yourself out to be just an opinionated, foulmouthed, uninformed and narrow-minded jerk"
OMG you're so full of hate. Fuck your shit bitch. I've never said I hate anything. As long as we're throwing empty accusations around... You hate atheists, you want them to be tortured because you have an evil heart because of your religion of malice. You hate anything that makes you uncomfortable. Learn to spell my name fuckin' idiot... reading, it works.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth ...now you are quoting me....you must have some serious deep seeded anxiety issues or something...
life is to short to argue with you.....must be a pain to go thru life so angry ....I don't have to worry about you, I know who has my back.....I hope you calm down before bed time, enjoy your evening and Have a Blessed day.
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek I was quoting your example of Christ's polite love. Lol, you think you know me and my problems... like I told Solomon, that's arrogant shit. You all think you know the minds of others.
First you are the victim of hate hate hate, but now you're above it all cuz your imaginary friend has your back, lol.
Hail Science or fuck off.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth ok, Ignoring the obvious Intelligent Design that permeates life, scientists developed the theory of evolution in an effort to explain the origin of life via spontaneous generation. This theory is very distinctive. Scientists observe & interpret data & formulate conclusions based upon that data. Yet, evolutionists have formulated their "scientific" conclusion without resorting to any data at all. In fact, evolutionists have maintained their conclusion despite data to the contrary.
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek Well now, if you want to get into evolution I'm glad to, but I will reply in PM if you don't mind. I'm sick of comment limitations. I'll even be respectful, just remember I'm an asshole not an educator so bear with me.
spikesmth 1 year ago
@spikesmth I have seen that
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
A true christian doesn't go around advertising their faith like a billboard you read,... a true christian is identified by their daily actions of grace, mercy, truth, peace and many others...u can see it, you don't have to read on their bumper stickers or hear them boast of being better than anyone, but most of all they do not have to take anything out of context to try and put something or someone down to make their beliefs or ideals look better.......
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago
@ToniD4Zajicek No true Scottsman fallacy.
spikesmth 1 year ago
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My friend,... if u don't know what your talking about, or you don't research before you... talk "shit" as u put it...then you make yourself out to be just an opinionated, foulmouthed, uninformed and narrow-minded jerk...read both the books Obama spoke of..., the facts are that he took just one out of context and left out any derogatory type remarks that are stated in the other.
ToniD4Zajicek 1 year ago