I can see the years of pain and torment these poor people have endured for so long just being pulled right out of their poor broken hearts! God is healing them and taking away the pain and filling them with joy! But even then, they know in their hearts, they have to chose death for their faith at any moment! These people are to be praised and honored and we should all be praying for them and thanking God for touching their poor wounded spirits! Praise you Lord for your mercy and grace!
WOW, what these people must be experiencing. Who are we to say what they should be doing or how they should be acting. We are spoiled rotten and selfish and arrogant and deserve nothing!
I agree with elinaxd7 and many others. We can't put God in a box and say how everyone should react to the touch of God. Everyone will meet God on their own terms. These people have been oppressed 4 100's of years & forbidden 2 worship God freely. Imagine what most of them must be feeling. Some are no doubt being healed from years of shame & fear, & the combination of unbridled joy & extasy & freedom from tyranny for so many years, yet the knowledge that they could be put 2 death for worshipping?
Man their government is dangerous for them!!! these brothers & sisters faces should not be revealed in these video or they will face trouble if their government officials recognise them in these vidoe..
when I feel God's presence I wanna jump, scream, run... it's what I feel, how can this be torment, or pain...??? it's liberation from that, that has been happening to us... GOD bless them...
I to have experience this..it was a move of God, my life has never been the same, thank you lord.....I prayed to the lord, Said, lord if this is not of you i don't want it.....I had such a peace...some had deliverance, some cried some laughed...DON'T limit God....The day of pentecost is a great example.......
troy ...have you truly let god/holyspirit heal you? i know from my own healing waves of emotion happyness tears laughter pain anger and a mixture comes to the surfice...you cant say noone can say what god is doing in theses people some are full of joy some maybe be being healed from pain...the video is not for you to judge its for us to witness God power. i pray troy that you will see.
Why in the world are you trying to downgrade "healing"? And why are you trying to compare the two? God's the one doing the healing not people. If people cared more about healing than God, then God wouldn't heal them.. It's not rocket science. So if God is healing people whether in china or in the west, then that is God's will.
Wearing a linen ephod, David was dancing before the LORD with ALL HIS MIGHT, while he and all Israel were bringing up the ark of the LORD with shouts and the sound of trumpets. As the ark of the LORD was entering the City of David, Michal daughter of Saul watched from a window. And when she saw King David leaping and dancing before the LORD, she despised him in her heart. ~2 Samuel 6:14-16
Poor people! Those American mega-Charismatic Pentacostal churches really did a good job to cover the earth with this unstopable disease and destruction. They are now being judged. 1 Peter 4:17. The kingdom of Babylon
Go to "WeCanKnow" website. May 21, 2011 is the last day.
There is no such thing in the Kingdom of God as "Radical Grace" or "Wreckless Worship". Radical grace is simply a modern term for a "Perverted Grace"! You can read about it in 1st and 2nd Peter and in the book of Jude!
Custno do u know anything about the spiritual realm? If yes, than describe something thats unseen. Are these people idiots or possesed? How can one judge without knowledge? Its chinease people worshiping Jesus. And thats all we can see let God be the judge.
Can someone tell me if the preacher explicitly used the name of Jesus Christ? Because I have seen videos where they were people were posessed by a false spirit.
This sure is wild, but it looks orderly and organized at the same time. I am wondering where these spontaneous worship episodes happened. Were they in prison? I have heard stories of Chinese believers in house churches having to stuff rags in their mouth to muffle their intense praises so they wouldn't get caught. The jumping up and down and singing in unison caused me to think of how radical the worship will be around the throne when we get to heaven. Lord bless you.
i can't believe how many believers below have posted negative comments saying this is western influenced worship. ive never seen westerners worship like this in the spirit, many of these people will be from villages, they dont know about Toronto or Bethel, theyve probably never even been to a city. we shouldnt be satisfied with introverted, shy worship, we have to let the spirit move with power
@xochrisneilxo Some of us do let the Spirit move with power in our churches, but sadly, this IS NOT the SPIRIT! This is MADNESS! Peter left the upper room and preached a very powerful intelligent message! These people couldn't tell you their own name in a mess like this! That's one of the differences between the real and the false! The Holy Ghost doesn't require men to turn their brain off and check it in at the door!
I mean, what have we these days in "church"?? Entertainment complexes, the me me me feely good vibe, media merchandising outlets, corporate businesses, common purpose/alpha nonsense that promotes church "growth"-with a compromised message. Forms of godliness with no power. Havens for would be psychiatrists, new age gurus and witches, plus the usual array of religious police/pharisees. Robert Murray M'Cheyene once preached, the WORST persecution will come from the luke warm nominal christians.
Why the idea that its only God only if its in line with our denominational law? Read about Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Paul, Moses etc. Their encounters with the glory of God usually left them terrified/drained of energy/awe struck/feeling filthy/unworthy/feeble etc etc Sure counterfeit stuff is real, but Jesus' blood is MORE powerful. He DEFEATED the demons
Coloss 2:15 "And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross"
God sometimes has to get us into a place where we do the unthinkable, eg Ezekiel had to cook over excrement (excrement was used in sacrifice to baal-peor...) Hosea had to marry a whore. Not for effect, but because God has to completely break our human pride. Men like praise and recognition. Yet God WILL be glorified. The Spirit of God moves-satan is right in there trying to find a way to stop it. demonic attachment to mans flesh is the usual means. I pray constantly "only whats genuine Lord"
You get the clever folk criticising this, but what have THEY got as an alternative? I am sick of theological positions, sick also of religious pentecostals refusing to accept anything except what happened 50+ years ago, trying to maintain their organisation based on reminiscences of yesteryear.... Sure there can be counterfeit, Jesus warned of this. Temptation is always there crouching at your door. But we have been given effective tools. Word of God, spiritual armour, discernment, etc.
You get the clever folk criticising this, but what have THEY got as an alternative? I am sick of theological positions, sick also of religious pentecostals refusing to accept anything except what happened 50+ years ago, trying to maintain their organisation based on reminiscences of yesteryear.... Sure there can be counterfeit, Jesus warned of this. Temptation is always there crouching at your door. But we have been given effective tools. Word of God, spiritual armour, discernment, etc.
You know blasphemy against the Holy Spirit(the unforgivable sin) is to speak against the Holy Spirit. I would be very careful about what one says is, and is not of the Holy Spirit. "Then how are we to warn and speak out against false manifestations?" Well, actually, we're not. We're supposed to speak out against false doctrine. We have been given the gift of discernment for the other. And if you can't, the you need to be seeking and asking God for it.
all i understand is HALLELUJAH, and that's all i need. i think if so called christians saw how david danced, they would say that is not the spirit of the lord. they put God in a box, He is way to big to put him there. but praise the lord for the church in china, who is seeking and finding the lord. The power of God can come in different ways, quietly or like a mighty rushing wind, but as long as he comes
Shame on that Devil and his scheme of unifying the body of believers here, and giving them fullness of joy, and changing their lives completely and utterly. Soldier of Christ... do you hear the Hallelujah's, those are actual Hallelujah's... read what the word actually means.
Sorry, you can't judge anything from this 4 minute video alone. Clearly these people were deprived and suffered long before they heard of any such thing as Christianity. You put anything in front of them promising a way out, they'll react to it.
Looks like God is on the move in China. We need God to do this to us in America to shake off our dead religious rituals we call church. THese people must have something, because most of them will face great persecution for what they believe.
This is why I cannot say "God Bless America"! We export more religious garbage to the ends of the Earth than any other nation. We are sooooo BACKSLID! This is not the book of Acts. Peter could preach an intelligent sermon on the day of Pentecost. These poor souls probably couldn't tell you their name in a mess like this. This gives real Pentecostalism (if there is such a thing anymore) a very bad name!
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This just goes to show you that "Charismania" knows no bounds! I feel sorry for these poor souls that have been duped by this false spirit. Is this what happened on the shores of Galillee
It's amazing how the Joy of the Holy Spirit and unscripted worship can be captured on film as shown here, and so-called 'intelligent politically correct' Christians mock it. These people are the true martyrs of the faith in our lifetime. America should be learning about faith and purity from them.
Where is the joy? These poor people look tormented and possessed. This is not how the persecuted church in China worships. This was exported to them from Toronto and Brownsville. This is not a representation of the true house church movement in China.
Look, a good friend of mine is a Pentecostal missionary who works in China among the Spirit-filled house churches. I have seen his pictures and videos and they are nothing like this. NOTHING AT ALL like this. Most of the Chinese churches are very quiet in comparison to ours here, but they are a praying people. They are the martyrs. I wouldn't be suprised if what you are promoting is just a government church full of nuts!
The Chinese church women dress very modest and wear coverings on their head during worship. That is another reason that this clip is suspect to me and others who are familiar with the Chinese church!
@holinesspentecostal There's How Many people in China? And, just because you've seen footage of SOME of the house churches in China, you think that they all MUST be that way? That's small and closed minded.
@jazzman3791 I never said they were all that way, I just think this wildness is simply an expression of Western influences on the Chinese religious culture rather than some spontanious revival that broke out. With all the internet restrictions on the Chinese, neither one of us will really know what's going on in the mainstream of Christianity in China.
@holinesspentecostal - - I have ministered the gospel in China, the Philippines, South American and in all over Africa. Sorry, but I don't export 'Christian culture', I simply preach the deity of Christ, His work of redeeming man, and the Promise of the Holy Spirit which our Lord said would dwell in believers and empower them to living in victory - - and work miracles. They believe the gospel and God responds with pouring out His glory which you see and hear. Quite simply isn't it?
@radicalgrace You obviously don't preach what Jesus Preached! You obviously don't preach what Paul preached either. Just preaching about what Jesus did and who he is.....IS NOT ENOUGH! Jesus had a message that he preached which we must preach!
BTW, this is NOT GLORY! This is chaos and stupidity! Paul preached that even the gifts were to be done decently and in order! You also don't preach HOLINESS or SEPARATION FROM THE WORLD!
@holinesspentecostal and they wil also be unable to see videos of revivals here i the u.S. so how could they be influenced by us they themselves were moved by the Holy Spirit to cry out to God. I hate people who mock the work of GOd or speak as if their analyzation proves anything. By the way i have never seen aroom this on fire in the US.
@gnawaserge The same communists that control their churches and promote this stupidity also control the american churches and have wrecked our pentecostal movements. Check out the 33rd degree masons who have been preaching to us for years on TV.......Oral Roberts, Hagan, Copeland, and many other of the TBN stars and celebrities. They are all brothers to the devils who run China, Russia, and every other Communist, NWO Country! Women twisting in their tight bluegenes on the ground is not revival.
@gnawaserge False spirits are not only transfered by internet, but also through the false practice of "Impartation". Plenty of Charismaniacs have influenced people behind the iron curtain in both China and Russia. The Russian and Chinese Pentecostal churches were not like this at all for over 80 years. This is a relatively new phenomenon that is affecting and infecting much of Asia. The Asian Pentecostals were very strict and relatively quiet in their worship for decades.
@gnawaserge The guy that put this video out also promotes the "Purpose Driven Life" garbage that is put out by the great "Council on Foreign Relations" preacher.....Ricky Warren. This tells me all I need to know about this guy and his videos! He's into marshall arts (which is occultic), self help books written by New Age Guru's and other nonsense. If you want to swallow this bilge, then more power to ya! God help you!
@troy1387 so you saying this is the work of Satan? most of us western so-called christians should bow our heads in shame. what would a sleeping church know about real faith. just because penticostal movements have not produced a change in the west doesn't mean it's false. WE ARE FALSE, the move of the holy spirit is real and we just didn't respond as we should have. unlike these people.
joy and sorrow go hand in hand and can not be exclusive from one another.
@80sOGRE Just because hundreds of people get together and roll around on top of one another like a bag of snakes and worm, we get all fuzzy and call it revival. How STUPID! You may be asleep, but speak for YOURSELF! I saw a woman pull her hair out by the roots one night in a service and proceeded to command the devil to leave her. The pastor quickly stopped me and said, "This woman has the Holy Ghost". I looked at that guy and said, "I've NEVER known the Holy Ghost to pull hair out by the roots!
@blkedwashedazn The prophets of old were not careful to speak the truth! There is no such thing as "reckless worship" as this video suggests. Only pagan gods would accept such expressions. Some folks in the church still possess the much hated gift of the Holy Ghost called...."DISCERNING OF SPIRITS"!
@holinesspentecostal God forbid somebody might actually dare to love the Lord with all their heart, mind and strenght right? instead of maintaining the reverent calm of a typical catholic pew. maybe its because their expression of desperation challenges your own. desperate for Christ. are you and do you have any evidence of that?
@80sOGRE Look, I have never condemned shouting, rejoicing, speaking in tongues and the moving of the Holy Ghost. I have experianced it many many times! This is why I am CONFIDENT that THIS IS NOT REAL! Not only does this NOT bear witness with my spirit, but also IT DOESN'T BEAR WITNESS TO THE WORD OF GOD! This is simply Toronto Airport Vinyardism misplaced in China! This kind of madness is more kin to heathen worship than to Christianity! Not all of us in the U.S. are asleep my friend!
@perplex33 Thanks for the heads up! That explains this whole nonsense! I'm aware of the false prophet to which you are referring too. These guys are all cut out of the same deceptive cloth!
@holinesspentecostal guess im going to hell then cuz ive experienced God like this..i couldnt control it ..all i know is afterwards my thought process and my life was completely changed im on fire for God ! Thank you Jesus
it doesnt matter which denominations the chinese underground chruch is, as long as the gospel is preached and LIVES are genuinely transformed and given to jesus then GOD IS GLORIFIED!
* 1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned .
Have a care brother, these people have suffered for the name of Jesus daily in ways we can only imagine. John 13:34 & 35 " A new commandment I give to you that you love one another: as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." Go visit The Voice of the Martyrs,and see what they are suffering. I pray that God will touch your heart with His love for them.
That shows that you think you are a disciple of Jesus. You are not nor are you to be. You ,if you are saved, are to be a disciple of Paul. But really I am showing love be telling the truth. It really doesnt matter how much they suffer, if they suffer for a false Jesus.
I agree. It looks satanic to me. They all llok like they are in some sort of pain. When the brothers and sisters of christ worship it should be a happy and glorifying time.
you're agreeing w/ whom? if u think u are a born-again christian, and u think this is satanic, shut up bro! ask God for morerevelations about Jesus, rest in the grace of God and pray!
I am a born again christian. and i think this is satanic. I pray every day brother. I also read God's word everyday. No where is this type of worship found in scripture. I feel sorry for these poor decieved people.
really you havent read about people falling down as if dead in the presence of God? Falling prostrate in worship? What about travailing int he spirit? Groans which cannot be uttered? Have your read this in your bible? I assure you this is not satanic. It may be different from your experience.. Careful what you call satanic.
Then I pity you. You will probably never let God out of the box you have so foolishly stuffed him into. Read about Pentecost. Read the Psalms and Song of Songs. God DOES wreck minds. I hope for you sake that he wrecks yours.
P.S. The Devil only rips off what God does. He has no real power. You're giving him much more than he deserves.
Oh and that's not odd at all. After seeing fire and wind rush down from heaven into a room, they suddenly burst out onto fluent Arabic. I'm sure they were completely calm. HA. And these are Chinese people laughing and weeping with an accent. it's not demonic babbling. (even though i must admit, chinese frequently sounds like babbling :-).
Tongues are not understood many times. I've seen/heard the false and the true. They both sound similar. There's true healing and false healings also. Satan likes to counterfiet the true stuff, but that doesn't mean you throw out the baby with the bathwater in fear. Ask God for discernment and you'll know the spirit behind the true & false. Usually with true revival there is alot of weeping & repenting and then laughter and joy. Watch fotm1 vids on tongues and todd bently and kundalinidemons
@SoldierofChrist87 So, I guess the Apostle Paul was demon possessed? He spoke in tongues that wasn't a "national tongue" that was foreign to him. In truth, he was probably the most intellectual mind Israel had to offer at the time, and since he was a Roman citizen, he could more than likely speak any language of the surrounding countries. He writes about speaking with tongues of angels, and that he spake probably more than all.
@isoflexs Again really? David writes about crying out to the Lord. And he danced before the Lord...are you ready for this..NAKED, in front of all of Israel. Now, with so many people in a small place it would kind of be difficult to dance, so I think jumping up and down is perfectly all right wit God. Furthermore, the Bible says to do all things as unto God, and as long as that is what they are doing, and not as unto man, for vanities sake, the again I think God is perfectly alright with it.
This isn't satanic. They've been wrecked in the face of God's amazing glory. I hope you get to experience it :) It's life changing. And you def come out happy.
@isoflexs Really? So Christ's crucifixion, and all the deaths of the martyr's is not worship just because it wasn't a happy feel good time. No, my friend, what they did was the ultimate worship. Do you think Abraham, and Issac were "happy" going to the mountain to sacrifice? NO, they weren't, but it was worship. Furthermore, if you want revival, you must sacrifice, and birth it. You must intercede, do spiritual warfare, repentance, travail. Child birth is not fun, nor is it "happy".
These people suffer for their faith. God is blessing them my pouring out his glory among them, which frequently tends to wreck the human mind. Be careful what you say.
Praise the Lord!!
angelinewinter84 1 month ago
Well praise God!!!
psxwarrior 1 month ago
hallelujah - the same all over the world
MckoyMediaandComm 1 month ago
Wow, simply amazing. God is building his armies all over the world in amazing revivals, especially in Asia. I wonder if HE is coming back soon.
fantastic7heaven 3 months ago
I can see the years of pain and torment these poor people have endured for so long just being pulled right out of their poor broken hearts! God is healing them and taking away the pain and filling them with joy! But even then, they know in their hearts, they have to chose death for their faith at any moment! These people are to be praised and honored and we should all be praying for them and thanking God for touching their poor wounded spirits! Praise you Lord for your mercy and grace!
DJJimmyAllen 6 months ago
WOW, what these people must be experiencing. Who are we to say what they should be doing or how they should be acting. We are spoiled rotten and selfish and arrogant and deserve nothing!
DJJimmyAllen 6 months ago
I agree with elinaxd7 and many others. We can't put God in a box and say how everyone should react to the touch of God. Everyone will meet God on their own terms. These people have been oppressed 4 100's of years & forbidden 2 worship God freely. Imagine what most of them must be feeling. Some are no doubt being healed from years of shame & fear, & the combination of unbridled joy & extasy & freedom from tyranny for so many years, yet the knowledge that they could be put 2 death for worshipping?
DJJimmyAllen 6 months ago
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God bless China!!!
gabrig11 6 months ago
Man their government is dangerous for them!!! these brothers & sisters faces should not be revealed in these video or they will face trouble if their government officials recognise them in these vidoe..
nobodytotown 8 months ago
oh my gosh there being touched thats GOD and ilegal in china they would all be tortured right know
NATENATER12 9 months ago
when I feel God's presence I wanna jump, scream, run... it's what I feel, how can this be torment, or pain...??? it's liberation from that, that has been happening to us... GOD bless them...
dianayudel 9 months ago
imagine the smile on Christ's face!!! yesssssss!!!!!! Pricelesss!!!
jakandkeira123 9 months ago
I to have experience this..it was a move of God, my life has never been the same, thank you lord.....I prayed to the lord, Said, lord if this is not of you i don't want it.....I had such a peace...some had deliverance, some cried some laughed...DON'T limit God....The day of pentecost is a great example.......
MrSelbatross 10 months ago
troy ...have you truly let god/holyspirit heal you? i know from my own healing waves of emotion happyness tears laughter pain anger and a mixture comes to the surfice...you cant say noone can say what god is doing in theses people some are full of joy some maybe be being healed from pain...the video is not for you to judge its for us to witness God power. i pray troy that you will see.
elinaxd7 11 months ago
Why in the world are you trying to downgrade "healing"? And why are you trying to compare the two? God's the one doing the healing not people. If people cared more about healing than God, then God wouldn't heal them.. It's not rocket science. So if God is healing people whether in china or in the west, then that is God's will.
MissedTheMark 1 year ago
Wearing a linen ephod, David was dancing before the LORD with ALL HIS MIGHT, while he and all Israel were bringing up the ark of the LORD with shouts and the sound of trumpets. As the ark of the LORD was entering the City of David, Michal daughter of Saul watched from a window. And when she saw King David leaping and dancing before the LORD, she despised him in her heart. ~2 Samuel 6:14-16
I am gonna be a David, despise me if you will.
DrLove75 1 year ago 3
without a mistake, SATAN has full control of these people
yammy071 1 year ago
this is amazing!!!!!!!!!!
GeorgeGogle 1 year ago
A Chinese Jesus Camp?
makemap 1 year ago
Poor people! Those American mega-Charismatic Pentacostal churches really did a good job to cover the earth with this unstopable disease and destruction. They are now being judged. 1 Peter 4:17. The kingdom of Babylon
Go to "WeCanKnow" website. May 21, 2011 is the last day.
TheEOW2011 1 year ago
There is no such thing in the Kingdom of God as "Radical Grace" or "Wreckless Worship". Radical grace is simply a modern term for a "Perverted Grace"! You can read about it in 1st and 2nd Peter and in the book of Jude!
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
please dont ever remove these videos they lift me up when im down
gnawaserge 1 year ago
Custno do u know anything about the spiritual realm? If yes, than describe something thats unseen. Are these people idiots or possesed? How can one judge without knowledge? Its chinease people worshiping Jesus. And thats all we can see let God be the judge.
09joel334 1 year ago
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When the Superstitions spirit hits... pitiful stupid uneducated mindless slaves
custno08 1 year ago
Can someone tell me if the preacher explicitly used the name of Jesus Christ? Because I have seen videos where they were people were posessed by a false spirit.
vizion24 1 year ago
@vizion24 What video is that?
blkedwashedazn 1 year ago
Amazing!!! Praise the Lord !!!
christohevar 1 year ago
Praise the Lord! If you dont think this is real then you havent experienced the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
itsasecret48 1 year ago
Yay Chinese people Encountering GOD!!! :)
jroc011ualready 1 year ago
you guys act like you havent read acts...I asure you the day of pentecost was just like this
csreynolds09 1 year ago
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
Please don't take this lightly
brotherfrank62 1 year ago
灵恩派的这种垃圾做法,真是被撒旦附体了。这些人都被撒旦附体了。圣经从来没有说圣灵充满会躺下又哭又闹。圣灵所结的果子,就是仁爱、喜乐、和平、忍耐、恩慈、良善、信实、 温柔、节制。那是这样疯疯癫癫的一团烂样。撒旦,我奉主耶稣基督的名,让你从这些人身上退去。我奉主耶稣的名,让你从灵恩派的人身上推去。求主怜悯灵恩派的人,用真理的光照亮他们,不让他们不读圣经,被愚昧蒙蔽。阿们。
marshokovski 1 year ago
awesome video to see,
in these countrys you get persecuted for believing in Christ
they even experience the love of the Lord even more,
blessed are thou!
GBU
Faithfull7 1 year ago
This sure is wild, but it looks orderly and organized at the same time. I am wondering where these spontaneous worship episodes happened. Were they in prison? I have heard stories of Chinese believers in house churches having to stuff rags in their mouth to muffle their intense praises so they wouldn't get caught. The jumping up and down and singing in unison caused me to think of how radical the worship will be around the throne when we get to heaven. Lord bless you.
AislingAstoria88 1 year ago
i can't believe how many believers below have posted negative comments saying this is western influenced worship. ive never seen westerners worship like this in the spirit, many of these people will be from villages, they dont know about Toronto or Bethel, theyve probably never even been to a city. we shouldnt be satisfied with introverted, shy worship, we have to let the spirit move with power
xochrisneilxo 1 year ago
@xochrisneilxo Some of us do let the Spirit move with power in our churches, but sadly, this IS NOT the SPIRIT! This is MADNESS! Peter left the upper room and preached a very powerful intelligent message! These people couldn't tell you their own name in a mess like this! That's one of the differences between the real and the false! The Holy Ghost doesn't require men to turn their brain off and check it in at the door!
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
I mean, what have we these days in "church"?? Entertainment complexes, the me me me feely good vibe, media merchandising outlets, corporate businesses, common purpose/alpha nonsense that promotes church "growth"-with a compromised message. Forms of godliness with no power. Havens for would be psychiatrists, new age gurus and witches, plus the usual array of religious police/pharisees. Robert Murray M'Cheyene once preached, the WORST persecution will come from the luke warm nominal christians.
goldsmithexile 1 year ago
Why the idea that its only God only if its in line with our denominational law? Read about Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Paul, Moses etc. Their encounters with the glory of God usually left them terrified/drained of energy/awe struck/feeling filthy/unworthy/feeble etc etc Sure counterfeit stuff is real, but Jesus' blood is MORE powerful. He DEFEATED the demons
Coloss 2:15 "And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross"
goldsmithexile 1 year ago
God sometimes has to get us into a place where we do the unthinkable, eg Ezekiel had to cook over excrement (excrement was used in sacrifice to baal-peor...) Hosea had to marry a whore. Not for effect, but because God has to completely break our human pride. Men like praise and recognition. Yet God WILL be glorified. The Spirit of God moves-satan is right in there trying to find a way to stop it. demonic attachment to mans flesh is the usual means. I pray constantly "only whats genuine Lord"
goldsmithexile 1 year ago
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You get the clever folk criticising this, but what have THEY got as an alternative? I am sick of theological positions, sick also of religious pentecostals refusing to accept anything except what happened 50+ years ago, trying to maintain their organisation based on reminiscences of yesteryear.... Sure there can be counterfeit, Jesus warned of this. Temptation is always there crouching at your door. But we have been given effective tools. Word of God, spiritual armour, discernment, etc.
goldsmithexile 1 year ago
You get the clever folk criticising this, but what have THEY got as an alternative? I am sick of theological positions, sick also of religious pentecostals refusing to accept anything except what happened 50+ years ago, trying to maintain their organisation based on reminiscences of yesteryear.... Sure there can be counterfeit, Jesus warned of this. Temptation is always there crouching at your door. But we have been given effective tools. Word of God, spiritual armour, discernment, etc.
goldsmithexile 1 year ago
Radicalgrace, Toronto isn't a 'Seeker Friendly' church, but I do agree this has nothing to do with Toronto or Brownsville.
theplanetariumscene 1 year ago
You know blasphemy against the Holy Spirit(the unforgivable sin) is to speak against the Holy Spirit. I would be very careful about what one says is, and is not of the Holy Spirit. "Then how are we to warn and speak out against false manifestations?" Well, actually, we're not. We're supposed to speak out against false doctrine. We have been given the gift of discernment for the other. And if you can't, the you need to be seeking and asking God for it.
jazzman3791 1 year ago
A bunch of mental people being possessed. Disgusting.
larboard20 1 year ago
all i understand is HALLELUJAH, and that's all i need. i think if so called christians saw how david danced, they would say that is not the spirit of the lord. they put God in a box, He is way to big to put him there. but praise the lord for the church in china, who is seeking and finding the lord. The power of God can come in different ways, quietly or like a mighty rushing wind, but as long as he comes
dianaturner27 1 year ago
weeping may last for a night but joy comes in the morning. Cheer up our salvation draws near. Encourage one another.
pomc 1 year ago
Shame on that Devil and his scheme of unifying the body of believers here, and giving them fullness of joy, and changing their lives completely and utterly. Soldier of Christ... do you hear the Hallelujah's, those are actual Hallelujah's... read what the word actually means.
Hisshep1 2 years ago
Sorry, you can't judge anything from this 4 minute video alone. Clearly these people were deprived and suffered long before they heard of any such thing as Christianity. You put anything in front of them promising a way out, they'll react to it.
chopstikz85 2 years ago
Thank you Jesus. Sometimes God is just to big for the human mind to handle. I love God :)
Elsabeth528Lynn 2 years ago
Looks like God is on the move in China. We need God to do this to us in America to shake off our dead religious rituals we call church. THese people must have something, because most of them will face great persecution for what they believe.
GoDoTheStuff 2 years ago
This is why I cannot say "God Bless America"! We export more religious garbage to the ends of the Earth than any other nation. We are sooooo BACKSLID! This is not the book of Acts. Peter could preach an intelligent sermon on the day of Pentecost. These poor souls probably couldn't tell you their name in a mess like this. This gives real Pentecostalism (if there is such a thing anymore) a very bad name!
holinesspentecostal 2 years ago
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This just goes to show you that "Charismania" knows no bounds! I feel sorry for these poor souls that have been duped by this false spirit. Is this what happened on the shores of Galillee
holinesspentecostal 2 years ago
It's amazing how the Joy of the Holy Spirit and unscripted worship can be captured on film as shown here, and so-called 'intelligent politically correct' Christians mock it. These people are the true martyrs of the faith in our lifetime. America should be learning about faith and purity from them.
radicalgrace 2 years ago 7
Where is the joy? These poor people look tormented and possessed. This is not how the persecuted church in China worships. This was exported to them from Toronto and Brownsville. This is not a representation of the true house church movement in China.
troy1387 2 years ago
Troy1387, these people don't know what Toronto is. They are not into 'Seeker Friendly' Christianity. These people are martyrs.
radicalgrace 2 years ago 11
Look, a good friend of mine is a Pentecostal missionary who works in China among the Spirit-filled house churches. I have seen his pictures and videos and they are nothing like this. NOTHING AT ALL like this. Most of the Chinese churches are very quiet in comparison to ours here, but they are a praying people. They are the martyrs. I wouldn't be suprised if what you are promoting is just a government church full of nuts!
holinesspentecostal 2 years ago
The Chinese church women dress very modest and wear coverings on their head during worship. That is another reason that this clip is suspect to me and others who are familiar with the Chinese church!
holinesspentecostal 2 years ago
@holinesspentecostal There's How Many people in China? And, just because you've seen footage of SOME of the house churches in China, you think that they all MUST be that way? That's small and closed minded.
jazzman3791 1 year ago
@jazzman3791 I never said they were all that way, I just think this wildness is simply an expression of Western influences on the Chinese religious culture rather than some spontanious revival that broke out. With all the internet restrictions on the Chinese, neither one of us will really know what's going on in the mainstream of Christianity in China.
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
@holinesspentecostal - - I have ministered the gospel in China, the Philippines, South American and in all over Africa. Sorry, but I don't export 'Christian culture', I simply preach the deity of Christ, His work of redeeming man, and the Promise of the Holy Spirit which our Lord said would dwell in believers and empower them to living in victory - - and work miracles. They believe the gospel and God responds with pouring out His glory which you see and hear. Quite simply isn't it?
radicalgrace 1 year ago 3
@radicalgrace You obviously don't preach what Jesus Preached! You obviously don't preach what Paul preached either. Just preaching about what Jesus did and who he is.....IS NOT ENOUGH! Jesus had a message that he preached which we must preach!
BTW, this is NOT GLORY! This is chaos and stupidity! Paul preached that even the gifts were to be done decently and in order! You also don't preach HOLINESS or SEPARATION FROM THE WORLD!
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
@radicalgrace Haha :) Amen
blkedwashedazn 1 year ago
@holinesspentecostal and they wil also be unable to see videos of revivals here i the u.S. so how could they be influenced by us they themselves were moved by the Holy Spirit to cry out to God. I hate people who mock the work of GOd or speak as if their analyzation proves anything. By the way i have never seen aroom this on fire in the US.
gnawaserge 1 year ago
@gnawaserge The same communists that control their churches and promote this stupidity also control the american churches and have wrecked our pentecostal movements. Check out the 33rd degree masons who have been preaching to us for years on TV.......Oral Roberts, Hagan, Copeland, and many other of the TBN stars and celebrities. They are all brothers to the devils who run China, Russia, and every other Communist, NWO Country! Women twisting in their tight bluegenes on the ground is not revival.
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
@gnawaserge False spirits are not only transfered by internet, but also through the false practice of "Impartation". Plenty of Charismaniacs have influenced people behind the iron curtain in both China and Russia. The Russian and Chinese Pentecostal churches were not like this at all for over 80 years. This is a relatively new phenomenon that is affecting and infecting much of Asia. The Asian Pentecostals were very strict and relatively quiet in their worship for decades.
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
@gnawaserge The guy that put this video out also promotes the "Purpose Driven Life" garbage that is put out by the great "Council on Foreign Relations" preacher.....Ricky Warren. This tells me all I need to know about this guy and his videos! He's into marshall arts (which is occultic), self help books written by New Age Guru's and other nonsense. If you want to swallow this bilge, then more power to ya! God help you!
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
Toronto isn't a 'Seeker Friendly' church. But I do agree it has nothing to do with Toronto or Brownsville.
theplanetariumscene 1 year ago
@troy1387 so you saying this is the work of Satan? most of us western so-called christians should bow our heads in shame. what would a sleeping church know about real faith. just because penticostal movements have not produced a change in the west doesn't mean it's false. WE ARE FALSE, the move of the holy spirit is real and we just didn't respond as we should have. unlike these people.
joy and sorrow go hand in hand and can not be exclusive from one another.
80sOGRE 1 year ago
@80sOGRE Just because hundreds of people get together and roll around on top of one another like a bag of snakes and worm, we get all fuzzy and call it revival. How STUPID! You may be asleep, but speak for YOURSELF! I saw a woman pull her hair out by the roots one night in a service and proceeded to command the devil to leave her. The pastor quickly stopped me and said, "This woman has the Holy Ghost". I looked at that guy and said, "I've NEVER known the Holy Ghost to pull hair out by the roots!
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
@troy1387 Be careful what you say, you have no idea how the persecuted church in China looks like.
blkedwashedazn 1 year ago
@blkedwashedazn The prophets of old were not careful to speak the truth! There is no such thing as "reckless worship" as this video suggests. Only pagan gods would accept such expressions. Some folks in the church still possess the much hated gift of the Holy Ghost called...."DISCERNING OF SPIRITS"!
It's the one gift it seems that NO BODY WANTS!!
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
@holinesspentecostal God forbid somebody might actually dare to love the Lord with all their heart, mind and strenght right? instead of maintaining the reverent calm of a typical catholic pew. maybe its because their expression of desperation challenges your own. desperate for Christ. are you and do you have any evidence of that?
80sOGRE 1 year ago
@80sOGRE Look, I have never condemned shouting, rejoicing, speaking in tongues and the moving of the Holy Ghost. I have experianced it many many times! This is why I am CONFIDENT that THIS IS NOT REAL! Not only does this NOT bear witness with my spirit, but also IT DOESN'T BEAR WITNESS TO THE WORD OF GOD! This is simply Toronto Airport Vinyardism misplaced in China! This kind of madness is more kin to heathen worship than to Christianity! Not all of us in the U.S. are asleep my friend!
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
@holinesspentecostal "radicalgrace" is a disciple of the false prophet and charlatan T.B. Joshua. (see his blog)
perplex33 1 year ago
@perplex33 Thanks for the heads up! That explains this whole nonsense! I'm aware of the false prophet to which you are referring too. These guys are all cut out of the same deceptive cloth!
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
@holinesspentecostal guess im going to hell then cuz ive experienced God like this..i couldnt control it ..all i know is afterwards my thought process and my life was completely changed im on fire for God ! Thank you Jesus
22nessa22 10 months ago
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RadicalRachel7 2 years ago
wankee will be converted (destroyed)
weiner66 2 years ago
yes i think China is the place to be for group think, with apologies to the word think, come to think of it
weiner66 2 years ago
This is what it's calls "Holy Laughter"
YOU CAN LOOK IT UP IN THE INTERNET. STILL THIS IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT.
7895225789 2 years ago
why is it not the holy spirit?
jaredsshield 2 years ago
praise God!!!
divinekulit 2 years ago
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Joyinthehouse 2 years ago
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divinekulit 2 years ago
I love You Jesus.
nisasa1820 2 years ago
* Psalms 100:1 KJV Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all ye lands.
takenbyfaith 2 years ago 2
I love You Jesus.
hizpower 3 years ago
i think about philippians 1
it doesnt matter which denominations the chinese underground chruch is, as long as the gospel is preached and LIVES are genuinely transformed and given to jesus then GOD IS GLORIFIED!
Medcore 3 years ago
that's not funny
janybabez 3 years ago
chibai & lanchau is crying!! hahahahahaha
superstar408 3 years ago
* 1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned .
takenbyfaith 2 years ago
@takenbyfaith This is a wonderful verse of scripture only if it is applied in the correct setting!
holinesspentecostal 1 year ago
It sounds satanic.
Repent2God 3 years ago
Have a care brother, these people have suffered for the name of Jesus daily in ways we can only imagine. John 13:34 & 35 " A new commandment I give to you that you love one another: as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." Go visit The Voice of the Martyrs,and see what they are suffering. I pray that God will touch your heart with His love for them.
lylusone 3 years ago
That shows that you think you are a disciple of Jesus. You are not nor are you to be. You ,if you are saved, are to be a disciple of Paul. But really I am showing love be telling the truth. It really doesnt matter how much they suffer, if they suffer for a false Jesus.
Repent2God 3 years ago
I agree. It looks satanic to me. They all llok like they are in some sort of pain. When the brothers and sisters of christ worship it should be a happy and glorifying time.
isoflexs 2 years ago
you're agreeing w/ whom? if u think u are a born-again christian, and u think this is satanic, shut up bro! ask God for morerevelations about Jesus, rest in the grace of God and pray!
Rofred 2 years ago 2
I am a born again christian. and i think this is satanic. I pray every day brother. I also read God's word everyday. No where is this type of worship found in scripture. I feel sorry for these poor decieved people.
isoflexs 2 years ago
yeah?
really you havent read about people falling down as if dead in the presence of God? Falling prostrate in worship? What about travailing int he spirit? Groans which cannot be uttered? Have your read this in your bible? I assure you this is not satanic. It may be different from your experience.. Careful what you call satanic.
phlizmo 2 years ago 3
David danced his clothes of my friend. People thought they were drunk on Pentecost. God likes undignified :)
Elsabeth528Lynn 2 years ago
God doesnt wreck peoples minds...demons do.
SoldierofChrist87 2 years ago 2
Then I pity you. You will probably never let God out of the box you have so foolishly stuffed him into. Read about Pentecost. Read the Psalms and Song of Songs. God DOES wreck minds. I hope for you sake that he wrecks yours.
P.S. The Devil only rips off what God does. He has no real power. You're giving him much more than he deserves.
Elsabeth528Lynn 2 years ago 11
I have read about pentecost, they spoke in national tongues, not unknown demonic babling read properly.
SoldierofChrist87 2 years ago
Oh and that's not odd at all. After seeing fire and wind rush down from heaven into a room, they suddenly burst out onto fluent Arabic. I'm sure they were completely calm. HA. And these are Chinese people laughing and weeping with an accent. it's not demonic babbling. (even though i must admit, chinese frequently sounds like babbling :-).
Elsabeth528Lynn 2 years ago
Tongues are not understood many times. I've seen/heard the false and the true. They both sound similar. There's true healing and false healings also. Satan likes to counterfiet the true stuff, but that doesn't mean you throw out the baby with the bathwater in fear. Ask God for discernment and you'll know the spirit behind the true & false. Usually with true revival there is alot of weeping & repenting and then laughter and joy. Watch fotm1 vids on tongues and todd bently and kundalinidemons
inthelight7771 2 years ago
that was a reply to SoldierofChrist87.
Anyways, it's hard to tell by this video, not knowing context, etc.
inthelight7771 2 years ago
@SoldierofChrist87 So, I guess the Apostle Paul was demon possessed? He spoke in tongues that wasn't a "national tongue" that was foreign to him. In truth, he was probably the most intellectual mind Israel had to offer at the time, and since he was a Roman citizen, he could more than likely speak any language of the surrounding countries. He writes about speaking with tongues of angels, and that he spake probably more than all.
jazzman3791 1 year ago 2
@isoflexs Again really? David writes about crying out to the Lord. And he danced before the Lord...are you ready for this..NAKED, in front of all of Israel. Now, with so many people in a small place it would kind of be difficult to dance, so I think jumping up and down is perfectly all right wit God. Furthermore, the Bible says to do all things as unto God, and as long as that is what they are doing, and not as unto man, for vanities sake, the again I think God is perfectly alright with it.
jazzman3791 1 year ago
This isn't satanic. They've been wrecked in the face of God's amazing glory. I hope you get to experience it :) It's life changing. And you def come out happy.
Elsabeth528Lynn 2 years ago
@isoflexs Really? So Christ's crucifixion, and all the deaths of the martyr's is not worship just because it wasn't a happy feel good time. No, my friend, what they did was the ultimate worship. Do you think Abraham, and Issac were "happy" going to the mountain to sacrifice? NO, they weren't, but it was worship. Furthermore, if you want revival, you must sacrifice, and birth it. You must intercede, do spiritual warfare, repentance, travail. Child birth is not fun, nor is it "happy".
jazzman3791 1 year ago
These people suffer for their faith. God is blessing them my pouring out his glory among them, which frequently tends to wreck the human mind. Be careful what you say.
Elsabeth528Lynn 2 years ago
FIRE ON THEM, JESUS!
patril0mic 3 years ago
WOW!! i wanna go China!!
SpiritFilledJohn 3 years ago
god is good
jaiseree 3 years ago
When the Holy spirit hits. It its
taoistwarrior 4 years ago 7
wow...
john3dot16 4 years ago
awesome to see the power of God all over these people. It's real. When God comes in power like that you act just like that!
buxheim 4 years ago
Wow,好夸张!
z9394ca 4 years ago
what city is this?
niholo 4 years ago