In the Lab with Ryan Hunter: Miscellaneous Cody Tricks - SSF4

[Xenoocean]

I thank you, Ryan and OS.com, for these tips.

[CyberKairu24]

how u do that move at 2:50

[gazpalmer]

@CyberKairu24 hold P, charge, then release.. BINGO!

[alekschang]

Hey Ryan for characters that you can't safe jump after the HP CU, what is the best way to maintain pressure? I usually just follow up with a Crack Kick to close distance or a MP Bad Stone, especially if they're in the corner. Also, what's a good follow up to an EX Zonk or a forward throw?

[OptionSelectDotCom]

@alekschang See my other comment about after HP CU. After EX Zonk, if it's a character you can safe jump, you can walk forward slightly and then jump to get a safe jump. Unfortunately, you can't hold up forward like HP CU against any characters. The same is true for Forward Throw. Walk up slightly and then jump. A few minutes in training mode will get you used to the timing of how far to walk before jumping.

[ChromeAlchemist]

This is nice. I'm not a Cody player, but knowledge is power from a defensive standpoint.

Also, what's the name of this track? I've been looking for it but I just get the original...

[mushdog]

fantastic stuff, Ryan

[Zeroxc45]

First...blargh Japanese cody. Second thanks for the video. It's given my cody some new mix ups.

[LeJorges]

can you put up some matchups with cody guile?

[Halibut86]

In the lab has always been my favorite sf4 series. Keep it up, this info is sick.

[riku45]

Hey ryan this is good stuff. Just a quick question. Do you know of anyway to setup that can be used after performing cr.lp, cr.lp, cr.lk, MK RK? This is my normal bnb combo I use the most.

[OptionSelectDotCom]

@riku45 You can't really get anything good off a MK RK. You should really unlearn that and start using HP CU. There's really no reason not to.

[riku45]

@OptionSelectDotCom ergh Im trying to stop it..its quite hard lol :P Also what do you do about rush down ryus. I just find myself blocking not being able to counter well :(

[riku45]

@OptionSelectDotCom Hey ryan been using cr.lp, cr.lp, cr.lk, HP CU ALOT more than before and it is helping with my setups more

[OptionSelectDotCom]

@riku45 Good to hear. Against characters that you either can't safe jump (like shotos) or characters that you have to manually time the safe jump and it's too hard, I'll usually do 2 forward dashes immediately after a HP CU. This gets Cody point blank in time to get a meaty if you want it.

[Wynstonian]

is it possible or already in your plans to do a tutorial or lab vid for guy?

[leanfist]

close strong to standing fierce after crack kick setup? wow, THANKS

[MasterBoris86X]

i knew someone was going to use Mike Haggar's theme on Cody.. i knew it!

[OptionSelectDotCom]

@WuvableKel @SoulofIgnorance, @SSBMSynikal: It's not a remix, it's Haggar's theme from MvC3. I hope people actually use him so I can hear it often.

[SoulofIgnorance]

@OptionSelectDotCom

Oh for real? Can you post a link to where you got the .mp3? And Ill be using a lot of this for my Cody from now on. Appreciate the vid.

[OptionSelectDotCom]

@SoulofIgnorance Just search google for "youtube to mp3" and click the first link. Just like it sounds, you give it a youtube link and it gives you an mp3.

[SSBMSynikaL]

Damn, Ryan makes me want to play Cody. Wish there was more time before Marvel guts this game. Good shit, mang.

Where'd you find the Cody remix, Ryan?

[Hotashi]

quick recovery can have different timing? :o

[MrCookTM]

@Hotashi yes, it's a five frame window.

[FADCxMAbans]

I use that last combo a lot in fights. Real talk Ryan, since playing you that one day and all your tuts it's helped me tons with my cody play.. Always great, gonna try to start fucking with the knife a bit more for shotos to do some safe jumps..

[SoulofIgnorance]

Really digging the remix. Nice guide.

[thejuggernaut81]

The beat, must have that beat.

[WuvableKel]

What remix of Cody's theme is this?

Is it an original from you guys? :O

[mitsuwomi]

Mr.Hunter always so pringles... :)

[gt22]

i thought there was only one way of tech get up - where you instantly press the buttons and they get up, or you just let them get up on their own. I didn't know you could delay it a little...

[asassyn99]

This is very helpful for a non-technical Cody player like myself. lol Although I do have some setups here and there.

[Jtehbunny]

How the heck does that safe jump work?

[hxzxxl]

damn, ur good

[MrNaughtyHands]

how about in the lab Makoto tricks

[thewarrior195]

MORE GUY!!!!!

[rizhall]

Haha, that last one is funny. I noticed it vs Juri, and when I landed two cl.mp's, my eyes went wide opened and I pointed at the screen and went, "DID YOU SEE THAT??"

All the while, they mashed out an ultra and killed me.

[HJayZ91]

Mr. Hunter, I have a question about meaty option selects, how do u do meaty attack? then if it whiffs, a special move comes out like LK in DP or tatsu? i tried following the method, do meaty attack, input special very quickly, into another LK or jab, but every time by vesperarcade, but the jab cancels into the special move that i inputed, help please!!!

[HJayZ91]

@HJayZ91 i meant i watched tutorial by vesperarcade on os's.

one more question, on sweep os like meaty c. short>c. short + c. roundhouse, what if the character doesn't have chain light attacks like Sagat? u have to do c. short, quickly c. roundhouse in between, then another c. short? or can you make it chain?

[OptionSelectDotCom]

@HJayZ91 Yes, for characters that don't chain their jabs/shorts, you have to input the c.HK during the end of the animation of the first jab/short. And I mean the end of the animation based on the timing if they blocked it, not if it whiffs. You can practice that timing by whiffing a short/jab and doing your sweep as soon as possible afterwards.

[OptionSelectDotCom]

@HJayZ91 You can only do those types of option selects with an attack that ISN'T special cancelable, for exactly the reason you're explaining. Not all characters can really utilize this type of option select. Cody can do it with cl.LK because it's not special cancelable.

[HJayZ91]

@OptionSelectDotCom check out this guy's channel, his name is obey325, i see him doing meaty jab into os and it doesn't cancel, if it hits or gets blocked, the string continues, but when the oppenent back dashes, ex hozanto comes out, or guy's ex tatsu

[OptionSelectDotCom]

@HJayZ91 Hm, yes, I see. I didn't think that was possible, to be honest. The only way I can see that working, then, is that the special move is inputted during the recovery of the first jab/short are over, after the active frames are over, which should also be after the window where the move is cancelable. Then, he's linking the second jab/short, and not canceling it. But watching his video closely, it looks like he's chaining the first jab/short into the second. I'm really not sure, honestly.

[HJayZ91]

@OptionSelectDotCom last question, i promise, search sagat option select 2 by alioune, it's meaty jab in ts, but if jab whiffs, tu comes out, how does that work? and is it possible to os kara tiger uppercut or el fuerte run into splash or is it only forward lk or hk and run then input upper and splash afterward? thank you so much

[MrCookTM]

@OptionSelectDotCom you're pretty close. first part is correct: he's inputting the special after the point where the normal is cancelable. but the important thing in this story is that even if the normal isn't special cancelable anymore (aka after the active frames/in the recovery frames), it is still chain-cancelable. a chain cancel doesn't have a specific input-window like a special cancel has, you can input it at any point after the startup.

[OptionSelectDotCom]

@MrCookTM Good shit. Just goes to show you, there's always more to learn in fighting games. Consider me educated.

[xouleikha]

I'd love to be in the lab with Ryan Hunter, if you know what I mean.

[treflip063]

diggin' it

[Riskyotter]

This made me moist

[OptionSelectDotCom]

Turn the beat back! ...again.