Does the golf R have some kind of artificial engine sound a la M5? seems to howl a bit like a 6 cylinder engine from the inside but sound like the quite dull 4 cylinder turbo it is from outside
This is kind of dumb. This is just supposed to be a fun car to toss around and it's always been that if you want a quick golf, you get the manual. The only exception would be if your daily commute consisted of harsh traffic.
@SmokeEm122 or because the manual is way more fun and engaging to drive, you can't be brainless to drive manual, you have to know what you're doing, so thy aren't brainless for liking manual, you're brainless for liking auto
I didn/t watchthe video yet but being and engrish video I bet they will favour the manual. not because the like it better but its more appealing to those brainless macho mocking brits
I Have driven a Golf GTI Edition 35 yesterday and normaly I am a fan of manual gearboxes but the 6 speed DSG in GTI changed my mind, I love it. The Audi A5 7 Speed gearbox was not that good in this car I would prefer a maual gearbox
So the 2dr Golf R, which is lighter than the 4Dr, is faster and more economical with the DSG than the 4Dr 6-spd. But I bet you anything, the manual is way more fun!
I hate that VW didn't bring the DSG to the US. I love manual cars and I know ppl are gonna smash me for saying this but I'd have the DSG model. I like the entertainment of paddle shift and the ease of use of the auto on my daily drive.
I have a Golf Mk5 1.9TDI with the manual gearbox, mapped to 150bhp and 265lb ft torque. As I'm getting another Golf Mk5 next (either the 2.0TDI, GTI or the 1.4TSI 170), I test drove a 1.4 TSI 170 with the DSG box. I've always said "Manuals are better", blah blah - but honestly, I found the DSG brilliant. It was a great gearbox, responded well, smooth, plus with the paddles on the wheel it's as much of a manual as anything else. Blips beautifully on downchanges too..
Doesn't matter if the DSG is faster. Been driving manual for only 4 years, and that DSG crap just takes the fun out of driving a true manual gearbox. The day manual is no longer available in any automobile is the day driving will become boring in my opinion.
Of course DSG is gonna be faster, that's the whole fucking point of it. And half a second slower acceleration in a Golf, is not the end of the world. Manuel 4evah!
i seriously dont know where he got the idea from that using the hand-break would produce the quickest run....like honestly, i know it works but when your trying to get a quick time down you don't do that lol
I used to be one of those people that dislike the DSG transmission until I really tested one and I got enlighten, the idea here is control over the gear changes, and DSG gives you that control at the blink of an eye. I live in U.S. but I think getting a Golf R over my current R32 MkV is out of the question, the only thing I like about the new R is the improvements in the suspension and the looks of the new body, other than that there's no justification, performance numbers are disappointing.
The people who keep saying to buy manual "to make you a man," please.... You're just compensating for something you don't have. Ahem. There is a reason the DSG sells 50/50 to the manual, let people buy what they want. Some people want this car to be an everyday driver, not a weekend bruiser. They want something livable they can drive in traffic and be comfortable in while being fun to drive. I'd like you to drive in SoCal or NoVa traffic and tell me "DSG is for pansies". What a bunch of losers.
@fanfinmiami I do drive a manual (sometimes a brand new GTI in fact :D) in Southern California traffic. It's not as hard as people (mostly those who don't know how to drive stick) claim. It does, however, require you to be involved and aware of what you're doing on the road, which, for most people apparently, is an egregious burden.
As everyone has already said, this comparison is very poorly done and is not well thought out at all.
The DSG car also has 18 inch wheels on, while the manual has 19's on. The 19's are obviously heavier and guess what? Heavier wheels/tires = slower car.
At manual start, he would keep the revs at about 4k, but it drops massively when he releases thee clutch. You can listen to how much more revs of the line are stable on the DSG run
With a manual tranny AWD car, if you can't get all four tires to break loose on the launch for a moment, you will *never* get the fastest 0-60 time. That is simply how it's done, whether it's an R, R32, Evo, STi etc.. Do it wrong, smoke the clutch. DSG has an inherent advantage in 0-60 because it takes virtually no time to shift, thus no break in acceleration. Each shift in a manual costs 0.5 seconds of no acceleration per shift. Is why many cars only require one shift to get to 60.
Unless you go for a big turbo setup you should go for a DSG, mine is a 7 speed one and i was initially concerned about it's operation, but it works perfectly and also did a remap, and the result is even greater
@lordoftheriffs79 Speaking of a reamp, the 7 speed already has remap options? The 6 speed has some options but i've never seen anything to the last one one, the dry DSG...
@lordoftheriffs79 Idon't know if you got it... i'm talking about transmission software. Change somethings like teh auto upshift, the auto kick down, etc.
when you do tests like that you want all the power from the car.....why do you have AC on while testing???don't you know that it can cut a bit the power of the engine??
My stock 2003 24V VR6 GTI can hit 60 MPH in 6.5 seconds. I raced a manual Golf R today (VW exec's car here in the midwest), and we were neck and neck from a standstill all the way up to, and at, 60, 70, and 80 MPH!
Unless you are in a getaway car waiting on three fellow thugs to come charging out a bank with lots of loot...............what reason would any normal person need to get form 0-60 in ten seconds !!!! BAFFLES me totally when this crapola is featured on a car constantly. Should'nt these people be concentrating on SAFE driving !
for me the dsg gearbox kind of takes away the soul of driving a car. there's no feeling behind driving with a dsg. you're just there pressing the gas to make it go while the computers are doing the real driving. where's the fun in that? i enjoy slamming gears one after the other, heel toe down shifting, getting that perfect rev match. it's not driving a car it's more like playing a video game. yeah it's fast but there's nothing there.you should get a rush driving and dsg just doesn't work for me
fail video....automatic gearboxes are only for idiot drivers...they may be faster but at an actual road u need a normal gearbox to have full control of your car.
@RockLegendLeo Really cause last time I checked every F1 driver has paddle shifters, and I'm pretty sure they aren't the easiest cars to control going 150 MPH.
stickshifts are fun, but dsg is the shit...especially for a daily driver. I drive a gti with dsg and I must say that it is worth the extra $1500 unless you plan to buy a weekend tuner.
DSG is faster, more efficient, more consistent, and more comfortable. It makes manuals obsolete. We'll have 9-speed DSG soon, and prominent makers such as Lamborgini are already abandoning manuals. If I'm paying $54,000 for an Audi, I'm not paying for ancient tech and to shift the car myself. Transmissions don't get you laid -- a nice car does. If you genuinely find stick fun, that's fine. The rest of you, lose the masochism. Some people don't need to swoosh around a stick to feel like a man.
cars a/c is on that will lower the usable hp tho.. and wet floor that would reduce the tires grip because of temperature of tires and also its wet more slippery ground, more skid = slower you accelerate
dual clutch gearboxes are certainly faster than manual ones... but there's another truth, none of them is robust as manual one, or as the older auromatic gearboxes. too much tork kills the couble clutch gearboxes... and for ex a dsg gearbox costs about 11000 euros in my country, plus vw doesn't accept that it's a production failure... so it's still so risky to buy such a car, no doubt about that!
Hes showing what hes showing, nothing more nothing less. FFS its a video - does he need to give a narration that "its slightly overcast down here". No its a video and he isnt the fucken weather man. Its a run in the above conditions. Golf R owners thinking there car should be an M3!! Pfft..
Everyone comments on how fast the up changes are in a dsg gear box. But no one talks about about how slow the down shifts are. I will give you an example. You come into a 2nd gear cnr, in a manual you hard on the brakes 4 Th to 3 rd and then 2nd, using the clutch to match the engine speed. As for the Dsg, 4th to 3rd computer thinks about it for a while until it thinks the engine speed is ok. 3rd to 2nd the same again. As a golf r owner, who has driven both transmissions, I would never go a dsg
Personally, I prefer a manual transmission. Maybe it is slightly slower than the DSG, but it's more fun to drive than DSG... I've had other cars with the Tiptronic auto trans and they are better than a standard auto trans, but it's just not the same... I'm also not a fan of the cars that have the Tiptronic shifters on the steering wheel since if you are turning at a low speed, the shifters are possibly upside down.
The runs are on a wet road which doesnt help. A good Auto is allways faster than a manual though, cause you can just keep it planted and gear changes are soo much quicker. Iv'e always prefered manual in small cars, but this makes me think otherwise
@meilua77 i've tried the DSG too ^^ i like those technologies.. they are great.. an advancement of a convensional automatic and manual transmission, but for fun i still prefer the old box.. i like them but i don't prefer them.. that's what i mean..
I noticed he actually put the gear into manual mode and not sport. Obviously he knows that the computer system will automatically shift it anyway to prevent engine damage.
@jrgti80 Manual mode is "sport mode" too.Manual mode just gives you the option to shift with the knob instead of just the paddles if you want. Other than that there is no difference. I rarely use sport mode.
@beyondremote In sport mode it holds the gears longer before changing, so you can drive it like a manual. You obviously don't have one! There is a big difference between normal and sport modes and manual mode.
@urbex2007 Relax dude..I have a 2010 gti with dsg...Read what I wrote again. Im just saying that manual mode is also sport mode. I said nothing about normal mode. Ever try to launch your car in manual mode? It still works right? Now try it in regular drive<--nope.
obviously personal preference plays a role in what kind of car you want to drive, and you have to take into account that preferences are entirely subjective. driving a manual is loads of fun, feeling that extra bit of connection to the car, but I love my DSG all the same. it keeps the revs high and changes gears at inhuman speeds. a far cry from a regular automatic slushbox, since it's essentially two manuals mated together with a pneumatic clutch...
DSGs are rediculously fast and are an amazing piece of engineering... that being said at the end of the day i'd rather be driving off in the manual golf than the DSG golf... if you have the car shift for you where is the sport in that? idk guess im just a purist but imo its just more fun with a manual, not gonna crucify someone for getting an auto though lol
This video is utterly useless. If we wanted the numbers we could just go to the VW site and read the specs. What he should be providing the viewer is his subjective opinion driving the car on roads and not just drag racing the car. This dude should turn in his credentials. Manuals will always be more fun and more engaging to the driver. There are people out there that like to do a bit more than steer and accelerate
@TacoManTuesday F1 and WRC use semi automatic gearboxes, also known at flappy paddle gearbox. This is because they are slowly being pussified by the shitty french FIA and their politics. They once used manual until people though that professional racing should be safe and sane, something that it isn't supposed to be
@ rock3tcat - I learned to drive a manual in 1991 before you were born. Manual is dead. Accept it and shut your f*ck hole. It has been proven for years in numerous models. You can move your left leg back n forth because that is THE ONLY action you will get f@g f*ck.
@knonow ok so your trying to tell me that almost all the cars in Europe (which are manual) are dead? please, enlighten me on this. manual will NEVER die, no matter how much you think so. manufacturers will still make manual, because a big percent of their market still uses it and buys it. that would be Europe and basically everywhere else but japan and america. do some research, and please, next time have a logical statement. it makes you look dumber with the way you spelled your curse words
@agntroboy1995 Ok so an angry little 16 year old knows all about cars? Haha....typical youtube'r. You will eventually see manual dissipate in the industry.
Manual = 6 shooter. DSG = 17 round Glock. Checkmate BITCH. There I spelled a curse word for you since you can't seem to figure them out. Fucking Cunt.
@knonow I fail to see any logic in ANY of your statements. You also fail to see that you are the angry one here, not me, sir. Also, if you apparently know so much about cars, and claims that manual will disappear, then why is it that almost 90% of all race maneuvers can only be done with a standard transmission? I don't see heel-toe being done in an automatic or DSG transmission. I could go on, but I wont. I wont waste my time with you, the typical immature youtuber.
@knonow So I'm the punk kid here? I believe you're the punk. You are acting more immature than me, and I cant talk to you without losing about 5 braincells per reply. You also failed to counter the facts I stated, therefore, you are the one that does not know a thing about what you are arguing about. YOU get real and get a life. Don't waste your precious time in your mothers basement when you could be driving your expensive DSG car. Good day.
@knonow Why are you becoming so desperate to win this argument? I'm stating valid and true facts, and you just ignore them. Signs of ignorance. Not wanting to reduce ignorance is stupidity. The fact of the matter is, manual will not die. Whether you like it or not. This conversation is over.
@knonow What a typical immature response. You have stated nothing. Your arguments are invalid. You are invalid. You are a waste of breathing air, and I'm pretty sure I've been in high school longer than you have. You're acting like a little kid spewing out immature things out of your pre-pubescent kid mouth in your adult body. Learn what your going to argue about before you argue about it. Like I said before, this argument is over. P.S. You're so desperate, its even easy to see on the internet.
He must wet the road on purpose to try to get the official results!
That might help a lot to get to the official results!
I bet VW engineers did the 5.7sec in a lake or something like that.
suixothekid 23 hours ago
Manual ! Especialy on cars like the golf R.
Why do you want a DSG taking away the fun ?
Pioneer53 1 day ago
Who cares about an extra second of acceleration time? The manual is more fun to drive, hands down.
narso310 2 days ago
The car is not the issue!! The issue is the person behind the steering wheel.. Thats all..
8626anna 2 days ago
The DSG is an amazing gearbox... But i would prefer a proper manuall box...
SikhGugz 3 days ago
Does the golf R have some kind of artificial engine sound a la M5? seems to howl a bit like a 6 cylinder engine from the inside but sound like the quite dull 4 cylinder turbo it is from outside
joetol 3 days ago
@joetol Yes, it does have a noise pipe to increase the noise inside the cabin
xampx2k7 1 day ago
heavier 19s on the 4 door manual, lighter 2 door car w/ 18s on the DSG.
droopy1592 3 days ago
Well, DSG is great, but if I buy used I would prefer a manual. DSG will cost more to fix in the long term
chickenbones 4 days ago
another difference you missed out is that the blue Golf is 3 door unlike the 5 door red golf xD.
TuRkIsHxKeBaBzZ 1 week ago
This is kind of dumb. This is just supposed to be a fun car to toss around and it's always been that if you want a quick golf, you get the manual. The only exception would be if your daily commute consisted of harsh traffic.
Buttnut105 1 week ago
@SmokeEm122 I'm talking about British in general btw
MrBarrelomonkeys 1 week ago
@SmokeEm122 or because the manual is way more fun and engaging to drive, you can't be brainless to drive manual, you have to know what you're doing, so thy aren't brainless for liking manual, you're brainless for liking auto
MrBarrelomonkeys 1 week ago
surprise surprise
SmokeEm122 1 week ago
I didn/t watchthe video yet but being and engrish video I bet they will favour the manual. not because the like it better but its more appealing to those brainless macho mocking brits
SmokeEm122 1 week ago
I Have driven a Golf GTI Edition 35 yesterday and normaly I am a fan of manual gearboxes but the 6 speed DSG in GTI changed my mind, I love it. The Audi A5 7 Speed gearbox was not that good in this car I would prefer a maual gearbox
zombieritual1 2 weeks ago 2
Go manual if you're an idiot!
gav25x 2 weeks ago
@gav25x lol, if you want your car being stolen get an automatic
dieselboy77 1 week ago
@dieselboy77 What makes the auto easier to steal?
gav25x 1 week ago
@gav25x in America thieves can't drive manual transmission cars
dieselboy77 1 week ago
@dieselboy77 I'm sure they can figure out how to use the paddles, unless they're really dumb :-)
gav25x 1 week ago
@gav25x uhm they can't figure out , 80% car thieves cant even start car equipped with manual gearbox
dieselboy77 1 week ago
So the 2dr Golf R, which is lighter than the 4Dr, is faster and more economical with the DSG than the 4Dr 6-spd. But I bet you anything, the manual is way more fun!
MrMK94 2 weeks ago
I'd bet VW never tried that loading up the turbo with the handbrake bullshit !!
zjm68 2 weeks ago
@zjm68 what do you mean ? i want to know hehe im curious.
antidescent 2 weeks ago
@zjm68 lol totaly agree
heemoii 1 week ago
I dont give a fuck if the DSG is "more consistent" ill take a manual anyday. Plus, maybe you should try using cars with the same number of doors.
datpimpinboy 2 weeks ago
@datpimpinboy how heavy is the 4dr compared to the 2dr?
antidescent 2 weeks ago
thanks for the good intentions VW but for that money i rather buy an STI or an EVO
ricky041878 2 weeks ago
@ricky041878 EVO FTW!
datpimpinboy 2 weeks ago
I hate that VW didn't bring the DSG to the US. I love manual cars and I know ppl are gonna smash me for saying this but I'd have the DSG model. I like the entertainment of paddle shift and the ease of use of the auto on my daily drive.
trlalli92 2 weeks ago
Arnt the roads damp? Or is it just me...
ronnieseek 2 weeks ago
dsg has launch control.
xcapeist 3 weeks ago
what is the measurement instrument he look at?
cinqueottavi 3 weeks ago
Perhaps VW uses michelin pilot super sport tires for their testing.
Vsanto5 3 weeks ago
The idiot has the A/C activated in the manual car.
Everybody knows that A/C drains power from the engine when it is on...
chief27 3 weeks ago 3
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RobbStumpf 3 weeks ago
On the DSG, I don't have to put it into manual, I just push it down into S mode...
sly433 3 weeks ago
Why use the handbrake?
sly433 3 weeks ago 4
I have a Golf Mk5 1.9TDI with the manual gearbox, mapped to 150bhp and 265lb ft torque. As I'm getting another Golf Mk5 next (either the 2.0TDI, GTI or the 1.4TSI 170), I test drove a 1.4 TSI 170 with the DSG box. I've always said "Manuals are better", blah blah - but honestly, I found the DSG brilliant. It was a great gearbox, responded well, smooth, plus with the paddles on the wheel it's as much of a manual as anything else. Blips beautifully on downchanges too..
jamiebridges123 1 month ago
@jamiebridges123 hi! umm i have a couple of questions if you dont mind. ok so first. hows ur mpg on your TDI and what do you do for a living? TY!
antidescent 2 weeks ago
@antidescent hi mate, sorry didn't reply sooner, been busy. I average about 55mpg in my TDI (UK MPG) and I work in IT and Networking as a job. :P
jamiebridges123 2 days ago
I would have the manual.
Driving experience isn't all straight line
CochiTravels 1 month ago 4
DSG is faster
hdce224 1 month ago
Daily driver/city liver = DSG
Living in a rural area = Manual
jakubgt1 1 month ago
i think whats more amazing is not so much of which is faster or better, but the fact that the DSG maintains the same time for all 3 runs.
on a personal note.. i definitely prefer a conventional manual still.
garyproton 1 month ago 14
well he did the say the engines werent broken in yet, and the roads were damp which cant help
69mrbrightside691 1 month ago
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c4ssey 1 month ago
Is the road not wet?
DJR3PUBLIK 1 month ago
Doesn't matter if the DSG is faster. Been driving manual for only 4 years, and that DSG crap just takes the fun out of driving a true manual gearbox. The day manual is no longer available in any automobile is the day driving will become boring in my opinion.
neverending4181 1 month ago
@neverending4181 agreed
datpimpinboy 2 weeks ago
Thank god this car's not stateside to shame my GTI
carloscabrera08 1 month ago
@carloscabrera08 Actually, it is now!
wkeown 1 month ago
@wkeown d'oh.
carloscabrera08 1 month ago
@carloscabrera08 wrong go to the vw website they sell it now in the usa
klukash 1 month ago
You should compare the reliability between DSG and conventional 6 speed manual gearbox
nismotech 1 month ago 3
What's the point of how fast DSG is if it's always in the shop?
MicahRook 1 month ago
MAYBE your not a professional driver, duh
gdt68 1 month ago
this guy doesnt know how to launch that car
eurotech93 1 month ago
Well i've noticed beside the damp tarmac that on the manual gearbox run ac was turned on.at minimum, but on anyway.
need4spdro 1 month ago
handbrake????? why??? i think it would launch better if he just planted the clutch petal and rev at about 3000 rpm without the handbrake...
91MarioZ 1 month ago 2
Damp track won't help either
beefbaron 1 month ago
Manually shifting is a bit more fun ... but you what isnt fun? Coming second constatly. DSG *tick*.
133maxiboy 1 month ago
well isnt the 4 door heavier?
zblank0 1 month ago
VW test use a skinny driver to get 5.7 sec...lol
mooda4208 1 month ago
2 door Golf is lighter, so the blue one should anyways win.
juxonix8 1 month ago 42
@juxonix8 whatever, dsg is faster...
m1rchegfn 1 month ago
@juxonix8 yh but a automic gearbox is heavier so.
agonei121 4 hours ago
Of course DSG is gonna be faster, that's the whole fucking point of it. And half a second slower acceleration in a Golf, is not the end of the world. Manuel 4evah!
dbr712 1 month ago
Manual gearbox fan boys are the same people who continued to use slide rulers after the calculator came along.
brewtroll 1 month ago 3
I got a Passat 1.8T last year as my first car, I'm hoping this will be my second :D
DefiningTechnology 1 month ago
i seriously dont know where he got the idea from that using the hand-break would produce the quickest run....like honestly, i know it works but when your trying to get a quick time down you don't do that lol
willneverstop 1 month ago
I used to be one of those people that dislike the DSG transmission until I really tested one and I got enlighten, the idea here is control over the gear changes, and DSG gives you that control at the blink of an eye. I live in U.S. but I think getting a Golf R over my current R32 MkV is out of the question, the only thing I like about the new R is the improvements in the suspension and the looks of the new body, other than that there's no justification, performance numbers are disappointing.
marzbite 1 month ago
on a slippery road. very accurate measurement....
AndreasFalk8 2 months ago
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jackernapes 1 month ago
The people who keep saying to buy manual "to make you a man," please.... You're just compensating for something you don't have. Ahem. There is a reason the DSG sells 50/50 to the manual, let people buy what they want. Some people want this car to be an everyday driver, not a weekend bruiser. They want something livable they can drive in traffic and be comfortable in while being fun to drive. I'd like you to drive in SoCal or NoVa traffic and tell me "DSG is for pansies". What a bunch of losers.
fanfinmiami 2 months ago
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@fanfinmiami I do drive a manual (sometimes a brand new GTI in fact :D) in Southern California traffic. It's not as hard as people (mostly those who don't know how to drive stick) claim. It does, however, require you to be involved and aware of what you're doing on the road, which, for most people apparently, is an egregious burden.
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AnalogSummer 2 months ago
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tsopanakis91 2 months ago
As everyone has already said, this comparison is very poorly done and is not well thought out at all.
The DSG car also has 18 inch wheels on, while the manual has 19's on. The 19's are obviously heavier and guess what? Heavier wheels/tires = slower car.
DaLeadBull 2 months ago
DSG is for pussies. A good driver knows one has way more control over a car with a conventional manual gearbox.
JDDD33 2 months ago
hardly comparing apples with apples here steve!!! one's a five door the others a 3 door. There are some weight differences there stevie!!!!!!!!!!
robbyjai 2 months ago
i would buy a car with manual gearbox anyway
1000000bhp 2 months ago 38
@1000000bhp I agree. Driving a manual is just so much more fun to drive in my opinion
iKaGe01 2 weeks ago
At manual start, he would keep the revs at about 4k, but it drops massively when he releases thee clutch. You can listen to how much more revs of the line are stable on the DSG run
pendeho47 2 months ago
With a manual tranny AWD car, if you can't get all four tires to break loose on the launch for a moment, you will *never* get the fastest 0-60 time. That is simply how it's done, whether it's an R, R32, Evo, STi etc.. Do it wrong, smoke the clutch. DSG has an inherent advantage in 0-60 because it takes virtually no time to shift, thus no break in acceleration. Each shift in a manual costs 0.5 seconds of no acceleration per shift. Is why many cars only require one shift to get to 60.
daemn42 2 months ago
aircon is on, thats not gonna help
charliemurphy69 2 months ago 3
you weight like 200 pounds FAT ASS !!!
lalo1001523 3 months ago
I know it's childish but still 3:04 makes me laugh
deeemooo4ka 3 months ago
Next car will have DSG for me
mclarenfanuk 3 months ago
YOU ARE HEAVY.....THAT'S WHY CAR SLOWER....
507sam 3 months ago
It's like he's surprised that it takes NO skill WHATSOEVER to drive the dsg
Pip2andahalf 3 months ago
Unless you go for a big turbo setup you should go for a DSG, mine is a 7 speed one and i was initially concerned about it's operation, but it works perfectly and also did a remap, and the result is even greater
lordoftheriffs79 3 months ago
@lordoftheriffs79 Speaking of a reamp, the 7 speed already has remap options? The 6 speed has some options but i've never seen anything to the last one one, the dry DSG...
VanTheManSLB 3 months ago
@VanTheManSLB of course, mtm abt and recently revo has separate files for dsg equipped cars.
lordoftheriffs79 3 months ago
@lordoftheriffs79 Idon't know if you got it... i'm talking about transmission software. Change somethings like teh auto upshift, the auto kick down, etc.
If you're talking about that, sorry!
VanTheManSLB 3 months ago
What a twat! Learn to drive you ponce!
imfraeglasgow 3 months ago
Bring back the VRsex.
SckSqueezeBangBlow 4 months ago 2
buy DSG if you're not a man and can't handle driving stick
Hellz420 4 months ago
This fat cunt don't know shit.
tn21beer 4 months ago
you're also on a wet road you stupid fuck.
christiandoy 4 months ago
when you do tests like that you want all the power from the car.....why do you have AC on while testing???don't you know that it can cut a bit the power of the engine??
andreas0807 4 months ago
My stock 2003 24V VR6 GTI can hit 60 MPH in 6.5 seconds. I raced a manual Golf R today (VW exec's car here in the midwest), and we were neck and neck from a standstill all the way up to, and at, 60, 70, and 80 MPH!
AudiophileTubes 4 months ago
Peró il condizionatore é acceso....
davide52312 4 months ago
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ThePirateMD 4 months ago
Unless you are in a getaway car waiting on three fellow thugs to come charging out a bank with lots of loot...............what reason would any normal person need to get form 0-60 in ten seconds !!!! BAFFLES me totally when this crapola is featured on a car constantly. Should'nt these people be concentrating on SAFE driving !
dalquist 4 months ago
@dalquist Good drivers don't need to worry about safety features. All that matters is the driving experience.
DustinTROM 2 months ago
is it just me, or does he shift weird from 1st to 2nd?:
aSignInTheTrees 5 months ago
He lost all credibility when he said the cars were the same except for the gearbox.
One has 5 doors, the other has 3.
Idiot.
VagabondEXE 5 months ago 2
@VagabondEXE and the fact that the 5 door would weigh more than the 3 door
Aspireonthego 5 months ago 2
6 speed manual all the way in a street race it will beat a dsg with the manuals engine breaking
BRUMTOWNTRU 5 months ago
the 2009-present Volkswagen Golf is assembled in
Wolfsburg, Germany
Changchun, China
Jakarta, Indonesia
Pekan, Malaysia
Solomonovo, Ukraine
Annihilator1111 5 months ago
Maybe he should give it some more revs and drop the clutch a little harder... not exactly launching
wunderman4 5 months ago
for me the dsg gearbox kind of takes away the soul of driving a car. there's no feeling behind driving with a dsg. you're just there pressing the gas to make it go while the computers are doing the real driving. where's the fun in that? i enjoy slamming gears one after the other, heel toe down shifting, getting that perfect rev match. it's not driving a car it's more like playing a video game. yeah it's fast but there's nothing there.you should get a rush driving and dsg just doesn't work for me
chiveshardcore 5 months ago
fail video....automatic gearboxes are only for idiot drivers...they may be faster but at an actual road u need a normal gearbox to have full control of your car.
RockLegendLeo 5 months ago
@RockLegendLeo Really cause last time I checked every F1 driver has paddle shifters, and I'm pretty sure they aren't the easiest cars to control going 150 MPH.
Femicide09 5 months ago 2
@RockLegendLeo yep!
modelearth 5 months ago
stickshifts are fun, but dsg is the shit...especially for a daily driver. I drive a gti with dsg and I must say that it is worth the extra $1500 unless you plan to buy a weekend tuner.
Mtn86 5 months ago
DSG is faster, more efficient, more consistent, and more comfortable. It makes manuals obsolete. We'll have 9-speed DSG soon, and prominent makers such as Lamborgini are already abandoning manuals. If I'm paying $54,000 for an Audi, I'm not paying for ancient tech and to shift the car myself. Transmissions don't get you laid -- a nice car does. If you genuinely find stick fun, that's fine. The rest of you, lose the masochism. Some people don't need to swoosh around a stick to feel like a man.
mxulive 5 months ago 2
DSG is more expensive to buy and maintain - I'll survive without the 0.5s 0-60, if I'm honest.
audigex 5 months ago
cars a/c is on that will lower the usable hp tho.. and wet floor that would reduce the tires grip because of temperature of tires and also its wet more slippery ground, more skid = slower you accelerate
omer8519 6 months ago
Okay ! so you are on wet floor, changing gears earlier than you should and slower than you should. I wonder why ! GO GET YOURSELF FORD FOCUS
Gunbali 6 months ago
Who the f!@#$ tries 0-60 using handbrake, 3rd gear and a wet road!!!
panathaninf 6 months ago
How about you idiots taking it for a DRY road?
andreihristea 6 months ago
first of all its wet and dude don't use the e brake to start! :p
Burny101 6 months ago
dual clutch gearboxes are certainly faster than manual ones... but there's another truth, none of them is robust as manual one, or as the older auromatic gearboxes. too much tork kills the couble clutch gearboxes... and for ex a dsg gearbox costs about 11000 euros in my country, plus vw doesn't accept that it's a production failure... so it's still so risky to buy such a car, no doubt about that!
onurthemonur 6 months ago
Hes showing what hes showing, nothing more nothing less. FFS its a video - does he need to give a narration that "its slightly overcast down here". No its a video and he isnt the fucken weather man. Its a run in the above conditions. Golf R owners thinking there car should be an M3!! Pfft..
Mailme81 6 months ago
Everyone comments on how fast the up changes are in a dsg gear box. But no one talks about about how slow the down shifts are. I will give you an example. You come into a 2nd gear cnr, in a manual you hard on the brakes 4 Th to 3 rd and then 2nd, using the clutch to match the engine speed. As for the Dsg, 4th to 3rd computer thinks about it for a while until it thinks the engine speed is ok. 3rd to 2nd the same again. As a golf r owner, who has driven both transmissions, I would never go a dsg
1geekfromoz 6 months ago
this faggot holds the gear stick like hes holding a dick
airplayY 6 months ago
Personally, I prefer a manual transmission. Maybe it is slightly slower than the DSG, but it's more fun to drive than DSG... I've had other cars with the Tiptronic auto trans and they are better than a standard auto trans, but it's just not the same... I'm also not a fan of the cars that have the Tiptronic shifters on the steering wheel since if you are turning at a low speed, the shifters are possibly upside down.
grumman581 6 months ago
Wet road + AC on is your problem
Mr1wd 6 months ago
too bad DSG wont be available in the US; which includes Canada as well i guess.
schwarzkopf123 6 months ago
5.7 in the wet? Cant they see the road is wet?
TheVtieg6 6 months ago
The runs are on a wet road which doesnt help. A good Auto is allways faster than a manual though, cause you can just keep it planted and gear changes are soo much quicker. Iv'e always prefered manual in small cars, but this makes me think otherwise
leighsa49 6 months ago
You need to lose a few pounds for the 5.7 sec ...
spikeclux 6 months ago
Kill the aircon for a few more hp's...
TheShiningmaster 6 months ago
don't know why.. i still prefer a conventional manual box.. ^^
yeah, i know the automatic box these days are faster than the manual.. but it never gift the same fun like using the conventional manual.. ^^
just from my opinion..
JustMyHobbies 6 months ago
@JustMyHobbies
DSG is just amazing. BTW each time you change gears a kind of silenced shotgun is made....just wonderful...
Can't get back to manual then...believe me..
meilua77 6 months ago
@meilua77 i've tried the DSG too ^^ i like those technologies.. they are great.. an advancement of a convensional automatic and manual transmission, but for fun i still prefer the old box.. i like them but i don't prefer them.. that's what i mean..
JustMyHobbies 6 months ago
@JustMyHobbies
Provide you have fun, that's all folks :)
meilua77 6 months ago
eisai vlakas
souvjr 6 months ago
I noticed he actually put the gear into manual mode and not sport. Obviously he knows that the computer system will automatically shift it anyway to prevent engine damage.
jrgti80 6 months ago
@jrgti80 Manual mode is "sport mode" too.Manual mode just gives you the option to shift with the knob instead of just the paddles if you want. Other than that there is no difference. I rarely use sport mode.
beyondremote 1 month ago
@beyondremote In sport mode it holds the gears longer before changing, so you can drive it like a manual. You obviously don't have one! There is a big difference between normal and sport modes and manual mode.
urbex2007 1 month ago
@urbex2007 Relax dude..I have a 2010 gti with dsg...Read what I wrote again. Im just saying that manual mode is also sport mode. I said nothing about normal mode. Ever try to launch your car in manual mode? It still works right? Now try it in regular drive<--nope.
beyondremote 1 month ago
@urbex2007 Also,stick it in manual mode but don't manually shift and see what happens.
beyondremote 1 month ago
maybe cause you too fat... slowing shit down...
13071307 6 months ago
obviously personal preference plays a role in what kind of car you want to drive, and you have to take into account that preferences are entirely subjective. driving a manual is loads of fun, feeling that extra bit of connection to the car, but I love my DSG all the same. it keeps the revs high and changes gears at inhuman speeds. a far cry from a regular automatic slushbox, since it's essentially two manuals mated together with a pneumatic clutch...
marcusfavonius 6 months ago
DSG -How boring, i mean sure it's quicker but manual is fun !
SummerTheFuzzy 6 months ago
so dsg is automatic pretty much?
spikeev2 6 months ago
If u use the DSG u wil miss the DREAM OF DRIVING A CAR !!!
TheLawrence05 7 months ago
maybe turning the A/C off would allow another .1 sec or so? on 4-bangers, in my experience, that sucks a bit of power.
habsfan170 7 months ago
"it's not quite as quick as the VW Claimb should be..."
it's not quite as dry as it should be... for a test -.-
Janileinable 7 months ago 38
Ah the Internet.... Where a 16 year old little boy is a wise tough ass, however In public he is coward.
knonow 7 months ago 3
Best £1300 you could spend?
possibly...
Until the gearbox breaks and you have to pay £5000 to replace it
Connorrrrrrrrrrr 7 months ago
DSGs are rediculously fast and are an amazing piece of engineering... that being said at the end of the day i'd rather be driving off in the manual golf than the DSG golf... if you have the car shift for you where is the sport in that? idk guess im just a purist but imo its just more fun with a manual, not gonna crucify someone for getting an auto though lol
brandocommando29 7 months ago
This video is utterly useless. If we wanted the numbers we could just go to the VW site and read the specs. What he should be providing the viewer is his subjective opinion driving the car on roads and not just drag racing the car. This dude should turn in his credentials. Manuals will always be more fun and more engaging to the driver. There are people out there that like to do a bit more than steer and accelerate
tominator23 7 months ago
WRC uses automatic gearbox, f1 racing uses automatic gearbox, need i say more...
TacoManTuesday 7 months ago
@TacoManTuesday F1 and WRC use semi automatic gearboxes, also known at flappy paddle gearbox. This is because they are slowly being pussified by the shitty french FIA and their politics. They once used manual until people though that professional racing should be safe and sane, something that it isn't supposed to be
arsenal553 7 months ago
@ rock3tcat - I learned to drive a manual in 1991 before you were born. Manual is dead. Accept it and shut your f*ck hole. It has been proven for years in numerous models. You can move your left leg back n forth because that is THE ONLY action you will get f@g f*ck.
knonow 7 months ago 3
@knonow ok so your trying to tell me that almost all the cars in Europe (which are manual) are dead? please, enlighten me on this. manual will NEVER die, no matter how much you think so. manufacturers will still make manual, because a big percent of their market still uses it and buys it. that would be Europe and basically everywhere else but japan and america. do some research, and please, next time have a logical statement. it makes you look dumber with the way you spelled your curse words
agntroboy1995 7 months ago
@agntroboy1995 Ok so an angry little 16 year old knows all about cars? Haha....typical youtube'r. You will eventually see manual dissipate in the industry.
Manual = 6 shooter. DSG = 17 round Glock. Checkmate BITCH. There I spelled a curse word for you since you can't seem to figure them out. Fucking Cunt.
knonow 7 months ago 3
@knonow I fail to see any logic in ANY of your statements. You also fail to see that you are the angry one here, not me, sir. Also, if you apparently know so much about cars, and claims that manual will disappear, then why is it that almost 90% of all race maneuvers can only be done with a standard transmission? I don't see heel-toe being done in an automatic or DSG transmission. I could go on, but I wont. I wont waste my time with you, the typical immature youtuber.
agntroboy1995 7 months ago
@agntroboy1995 rides a bicycle and pretends to get philosophical on people when he doesn't know a fucking thing. We are not impressed.
Oh I am not angry at all. How can I get angry over punk kid? Lets get real.
knonow 7 months ago 2
@knonow So I'm the punk kid here? I believe you're the punk. You are acting more immature than me, and I cant talk to you without losing about 5 braincells per reply. You also failed to counter the facts I stated, therefore, you are the one that does not know a thing about what you are arguing about. YOU get real and get a life. Don't waste your precious time in your mothers basement when you could be driving your expensive DSG car. Good day.
agntroboy1995 7 months ago
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knonow 7 months ago
@knonow Why are you becoming so desperate to win this argument? I'm stating valid and true facts, and you just ignore them. Signs of ignorance. Not wanting to reduce ignorance is stupidity. The fact of the matter is, manual will not die. Whether you like it or not. This conversation is over.
agntroboy1995 7 months ago
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knonow 7 months ago
@knonow What a typical immature response. You have stated nothing. Your arguments are invalid. You are invalid. You are a waste of breathing air, and I'm pretty sure I've been in high school longer than you have. You're acting like a little kid spewing out immature things out of your pre-pubescent kid mouth in your adult body. Learn what your going to argue about before you argue about it. Like I said before, this argument is over. P.S. You're so desperate, its even easy to see on the internet.
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