Marilyn Manson & The Spooky Kids - Luci In The Sky... (Live)

[willow6969696969]

I don't think they had a drummer in most of the early shows it was a drum machine and because they are not playing at church, FREDDY THE WHEEL is on the drums and that is pogo on keys.

[sk8ace12]

ANOTHER 1 OF ME MIXING MM @ THE PLUS 5 IN SOUTH FLA...

[PD19954]

@sk8ace12 ah to see Gidget in his prime :) 

[denisuberalles]

worship worship worship Satan, worship worship Satan :D haha

[denisuberalles]

God is unfashionable, you need somebody.

[shittybullshit]

wow 18 years exactly :)

[Maddy922]

Those people need to get off the fuckin stage!

[msstma]

All these home vids shots, Isn't? as if they could tell he was going to be something really big someday

[Aamonath]

it always surprises me how much musical honesty this group has...

[purgatory47]

i wonder who the hell they got to film this.

[Psychobilly4life]

Brian (marilyn manson) took Gidgets style. It even says it in his book. but who cares its awesome either way

[MatticusFinch1820]

i love the spooky kid era songs because you can hear little snips of lyrics and parts that later showed up on antichrist superstar.

[sssudio]

your all basing your view of litteriture, so shut the fuck up and enjoy his music.

[TheShybabe89]

POGO :)

[SUPERxNEO]

i want to know more about Daisy Berkowitz - Guitar

[FascistKingDave]

Reading Marilyn Manson's biography, Daisy was a bit of an asshole who always bragged about his musical talents.

However, I love his work.

[panda626]

Oh...you mean like Manson? There's two sides to every story, ya know.

[randomname349]

Daisy was the co-founder of the band, and wrote pretty much all of the early stuff. He was pretty Manson's "right hand man", until Twiggy came along and instantly assumed that role. Then Manson treated Daisy like shit, causing them to not get along, causing Daisy to mutually leave the band.

[randomname349]

pretty much*

[Panditha666]

daisy, gidget, and pogo were all co-founders of the band the main two were gidget and daisy. Gidget was the one who bought the ideas to brian etc. if you see his artowork until he died you will see that alot of who contributed to the manson image look etc.

[LestatandBerial]

@Panditha666 of those three names you mention, only daisy was in the band from the beginning. The original linup was Manson, Bundy, Speck, and Daisy. Speck and bundy were kicked out after the second show and manson brought in Gidget and Pogo (though he didn't have his keyboard yet.

[JNathanK2011]

@Panditha666 Yah, heroin's claimed a lot of lives. I was on Gidgets myspace and I wanted to follow his band Dalligaggers. Like a month after I added him he died though. My friend committed suicide around the same time too. :(

[Panditha666]

actually he and Gidget were his right hand man. twinky? not so much hell even brian called him a groupie, but he followed like a little groupie like he was.

[Panditha666]

you do know that book is 90% fiction right?

[iwtv2007]

Wow, the only spooky kid material i've heard before this was negative 3, but i actually like some of this more than just Marilyn Manson...

[LNAMTH]

These comments are enough for a thesis paper!

[mechanical777animals]

This song is pretty important for manson songs considering Angel with the scabbed wings, and man that you fear both borrow lyrics from this song

[Panditha666]

actually they are dierct rip offs.

[Aamonath]

i wouldn't say direct ripoffs, at least not Man That You Fear, i can't really comment on Angel With The Scabbed Wings, cause i haven't listened to it in a long time, but from what i remember, it does sound a lot like this songs

but that's just my opinion, which has no more value than yours

[Panditha666]

one thing is for sure, though that they are very close rip offfs, listen to them closly thats all i can say due to court orders and orders by gidget that i will keep my promise to. the only song that i can say is a direct rip off is 1996.

[machineanimalhit]

omg if he played this live id shit my pants

i would love to hear this live its amazing

[Panditha666]

hed never play it live cause he died in 2007 AND he cant play it live without gidget , daisy and the rest cause if he did it would sound like shit if twinky played it.

[lizardprince88]

What authority do you have to criticize younger fans? Just because you were "there" you can be a fascist prick and criticize other peoples opinions just because you like Gidget more? Gidget started it, yeah. We all know that. Don't be such an asshole about it.

[Panditha666]

what authority do I have?direct authority in the form of hate mail torward a friend, stupid shit like saying gidget didnt do squat and givng MM a bad name.my opinions are first hand fact btw Also i dont hate any of the band members I love brian but the old one the one who was a good band member and knew who got him wehre he was, and rememberd who his family is. that one died in 1999. yeah and how many people know Gidget did the whole male kinderwhore thing? do you even know that?

[lizardprince88]

One does admire your staunch defence, and you have many valid and true points. but, just out of curiosity, why do you, as adults, take so much of this seriously? Is it not enough to know that these comments come from teenage mansonites who simply are ignorant? any true fan who does research will learn the truth, so why not let it go?

[Panditha666]

problem is the reserch these people who claim to be true fans do, is mearly readily available stuff and when we (the people who either knew brian know brian or know the band members or have any connection to them) say no this is not true or whatever we are bashed as liars etc. so to be honest VERY few true fans come out, ones like you or kinderwhore who just question poletly or the such instead of sending hate mail

[lizardprince88]

yeah, I can understand how that is. watching a scene develope then swallowed whole by a bunch of posers who totally forget the old days that made the band. so, do you actually know Brad?

[Panditha666]

yeah i do im a friend of his, we became friends back in 2005 when i visited him at his art show, at first i didnt know who he was but the name souned familiar, i loved his work and which was why i went and also bought some and still do. then i was let in on all the info about what really happend. and the such, and rememberd my interview iwth brian in high school. really nice guy back then now a real asshole and th anks for your understanding, you are a true one indeed! one who listens thats rare

[lizardprince88]

hey, the last thing I want to be is one of those one sided mansonites who just goes on whats mostly available. thanks to the loyal few like you, I have had done alot more research and have learned for the better. thats awesome that you actually know him, give him my highest regards.

[Panditha666]

wow thats the first time i heard "last one i want to be is a one sided mansonite" from someone and meant it. meaning they didnt just say it they went with REAL research, ie people who know them to verify what people said.

ill tell Gidget you said hi and give him props, if you have a myspace add him hes more than happy to asnser any emails if you ask nicely (althogh he answers anything with quite grace whearas id just shit on them for talking out their asses if they did but brad is VERY nice!)

[ElleFreakydelle]

this is so sad to read.. the last part. omg..

[Panditha666]

which one?

[ElleFreakydelle]

the part were you talk about gidget always replying and things like that.. he can't now..

[Panditha666]

oh yeah i know :(

[Angelthrug]

well this was the good days, im not so old i think and i can see that the older members of marilyn manson were the true sound of marilyn manson, its sad cuz they dont have a lot of credit for it, also it seems like you were friend of gidget so im sorry

[Aamonath]

ya, Spook Kids stuff, and Portrait Of An American Family were the best! btw, I'm a teen, and started listening to Marilyn Manson in August 2009

[Aamonath]

You're so lucky

[Aamonath]

since you actually know stuff, would you be willing to take the time to give me some info about the bands early career as the Spooky Kids, the Internet seems to be fairly lacking. If you aren't willing to then that's fine.

Also, do you know where I can get files of the rarer Spooky Kids, and related acts songs?

[Panditha666]

@Aamonath sure can if i am slow i do apologize because i rarely have time nowdays

[Aamonath]

Thank you very much! (:

It's fine if you're slow. I can wait for good information.

[Panditha666]

whats more sad is the fact that these teenage mansonites are the majority of fans now and even grown ups like behelly or something, who just assume they know EVERYTHING about the band, and then tell Gidget and others that they are liars and cheating or copying off Brian,

brian himself knows its bullshit. and i know hasnt read this shit he needs to, his friends rep is at stake. so why not let it go? cause we are tired of our fav band/friends being harassed EVERY time! some need to be educate

[lizardprince88]

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Sadly I never was part of the south florida metal scene, but I was part of another that was very quickly consumed and made rotten by posers. I think Manson is awesome, but I defintly agree with all you have said.

[jgb0893]

so the line up was it this? Please correct

manson:vocal

Berkovitz: guitars

lee lucaz: drums (or machine)

gacy (or zsa zsa?) keyboard

[Mikejturbo]

Manson on Vocals

Berkowitz on Guitar

Gein on Bass

Lucas on Drums

Gacy on Keyboard

[jgb0893]

oh yea forgot bass then again i always hated gein

[Panditha666]

so that means you hate marilyn manson in general right mansonite?

[jgb0893]

no, I've just heard him speak in interviews and he always comes across as an arrogant, dim witted piece of shit, and I feel that he had very little input to manson's greatest work; if he hadn't left, then they'd of been no twiggy.

[Panditha666]

Wow so that makes you the all knowing person of Gidget cause you heard him in interviews cause he SOUNDED like that strange how twinky sounds VERY much like that right now... and in REAL LIFE (because I have met him) he acts like that, wheras Gidget who happens to be a friend of mine doesn't sound like that at all, never did, hell even when I first met him he was a very down to earth and nice guy , unlike Jeordie who was an uppity ass moron. Much like the user/poser he always was.

[Panditha666]

And also so you just admitted that you hated Marilyn mANSON in general because you said you hated the person who wrote the greatest works (check the poaff liner notes also check with other people who knew him, and the band, about who REALLY wrote acss) . And your calling HIM ignorant? and your saying that if he hadn't left that there would be no twinky, well moron as TRUE manson fans know that would be a good thing because then 1) we wouldnt have mansonites like you, and two wed have the

[jgb0893]

Few manson fans would deny te fact that Twiggy and Manson created the best of Marilyn Manson. If you compare songs like The Reflecting God to songs like learning to swim, the latter comes across as uncreative meaningless trash: Why did Manson never do anything until 94? cause they were held down by a loud mouthed, arrogant junkie who thought himself to be a rock God. And in most interviews, Twiggy comes across as quiet and shy.

[Panditha666]

held down?! by who you fucking moron?! brian was/is the control freak of the band since day one ask Pierce, (the kid's dad from the luch box video. ) i mean why the fuck do you think we dont have pogo anymore? why the fuck do you think we dont have daisy sarah or the person yes again that did, the artwork etc.! cause of brians current inflated ego and listeneing to a fat fuck named tovar, and cause of some poser wannabe named twinky ramirez

[Panditha666]

and no we dont deny it, we KNOW that Gidget, was the one along with daisy and the REAL MM that created the BEST of mm. i mean who the fuck wrote, lunchbox etc. huh mansonite?

loud mouthed arrogant junkie?! rock god,? dear god your confusing your self with twinky iterally, i mean you think that everything you see on those interviews is real?! listen to this kid from a perosn who KNOWS THE people that your talking about!

[Panditha666]

listen to this: ITS NOT REAL DIPSHIT!! twinky I alwasy thoght was that way, a calm person, until i actually met the poser, when i asked him if i could have an autograph after saying hey love your stuff, he said, pfft yeah whaterver, you better, cause u know im good. whearas gIDGET was very down to earth and said hey thanks, man really appreciate it, same with Brian when i first interviewed him.

[Panditha666]

and if you still think hes this that or the other thing, why dont you ACTUALLY talk to him? then come back and spew your BS?

[jgb0893]

Well few people will ever get the oppertunity to ever meet any of them, so I'll have to judge by what I know. But I can tell you that Antichrist superstar and Mechanical Animals were unique pieces of art, and I doubt that someone like Gein would have the imagination to think up ideas of that sort. Anyways, I'd say that Daisy had more input to manson's early work that Gein ever had.

[Panditha666]

your seriois right?! you do know that gidget did the artwork etc. on the early stuff AND the ideas for the stage shows right?! oh riiight no cause welll INTERVIEWS tell everything, also moron almost all the songs were written by Gidget and dasiy, try and figure them out youserlf like i did, im not allowed to release them due to court orders. in other words if your thinking that acss was "unique peices of art" boy you got some learning to do !

[jgb0893]

Release What? And, with the POAF booklet in front of me, I can tell you that berkovitz contributed to 11 of the tracks, and gein contributed to seven. Listen to mechanical animals and ACSS; they can provoke many emotions, and literally keep you thinking for hours. I like POAF, but it has very little meaning compared to what Manson and Twiggy created. and what do you mean, "I got some learning to do"? Even if what you say of Twiggy is true, it wouldnt change what I and many others think of ACSS

[Panditha666]

release the other songs that gidget and daisy wrote, on ACSS. he also had to sue to just even get 7. hes not a greedy person i hope you know that. and again ACSS is muhc like POAFF almost all of it is old spooky kids stuff. but details for that one i cant give due to court orders other than 1996 and she isnt my g/f as for you got some learning to do , thats what you need, especially when it comes to REALLY who wrote what. and if you think it wont change jack lol IT WLL BLOW YOUR MIND boi .

[Panditha666]

also i forgot to mentoon those seven are all he got and agreed to cause hes just too nice just due to that all he gets is 10k

[stonedgroovemama]

*shrugs* Maybe you set off Jeordie's "approaching whackjob" alert or something.

Thing is, he could be the biggest dick in the world and Gidget the nicest guy ever, but it still won't change the fact that Twiggy made a massive contribution to Marilyn Manson and may have been the extra factor that turned them from a great local band to superstars.

[Panditha666]

yes ... i set off his WACKJOB alert the one he set off in many people who he pissed off and such way back when he was what he always was a fucking poser wannabe death metal boi!

all i did was go up to him and say excuse me mr. ramirez? hey im a big fan of your work and could i please have an autograph! he said and who are you? get away from me kid, im busy gimme some money and maybe ill do it for u... i flipped him off and walked away, Gidget was nothing like that

[Panditha666]

*edit it was a while back around 8 years ago but it was defintily something along those lines!! very arrogant

[stonedgroovemama]

He said he was busy - that's your answer right there. Okay, so there was no need for him to be THAT rude (if this exchange actually happened - most of the accounts I've read claim he's nice enough) but I personally wouldn't dream of walking up to a famous musician and asking them for an autograph when they're going about their everyday non-rockstar business. There are times and places for that stuff.

[Panditha666]

why not they are normal peoole and they need to realize that without their fans they would be nothing

[stonedgroovemama]

Granted, you probably know Gein. But you obviously don't 'know' Jeordie, otherwise you wouldn't have needed to ask him for an autograph.  But assuming it's true that you met him and he blew you off, it would explain your rabid Twiggy hate. Are you a former Twiggy fan who had his/her illusions shattered?

[Panditha666]

no i didnt know Twinky, and yes before that incident i didnt belive what others told me about him that he was a pompus asshole that is like ygwie malmstein. in other words acting like hes god or shit ! also HE made the massive contribution that turned them into a local band to superstars??! HE came in when they JUST reached superstardom!! ?! .

[Panditha666]

THANKS to gidget, and then while Gidget was in rehab twinky was playing GIDGET's gear and wearing GIDGETSs style at a MAJOR gig thus leading mansonites to asume that HE was the one who was the ORIGNIAL bassist etc

[stonedgroovemama]

But Twiggy can't be accused of stealing the male kinderwhore style from Gidget, since Gidget never actually wore dresses onstage.

Arguably, Jessicka should have a bigger grievance against Twiggy for the kinderwhore thing, since it was pretty much impossible to tell them apart circa 94-95. Or Courtney Love if you want to take it even further back, since she and Kat Bjelland were the first ones to popularise the style.

[Panditha666]

actually he did, check out miserymachine, my monkey and the others. or just ask Gidget or Jessicka themselves they are VERY nice people.

and yes she does.

[stonedgroovemama]

Actually, he didn't come in when they had 'just reached superstardom.' He joined at the end of 1993. The band was indeed starting to build a rep outside Florida at that time, but they were FAR from superstars, and things could have gone either way for them.

[Panditha666]

actually thats when they were doing the major gigs that would get them recognized which Gidge was in rehab. ie like i said abouve. as for the END OF 1993, hint thats when POAF was coming out.

[Aamonath]

they didn't really become superstars till ACSS, but you do make many valid points

Gidget (btw where does the name "Gidget come from?) does deserve credit, as he did contribute to writing much of the material from POAAF, and i bet a lot of the stuff from ACSS too,

[Panditha666]

he just thoguht gidget would go good with Gein, much like Sarah lee did with lucas or hell even mw with gacy.

thanks . and thanks for respecting Gidget, wish he could be here to hear that he would be quite happy :(.

and yes for ACSS he did, he did half the songs but was never credited, he settled out of court and did not push further cause he is a pretty humble guy. though i wish he did

[itsumoneko98]

Gidget is the girl from an early 1960's show called Gidget.

[Panditha666]

@Aamonath the name gidget he told me came from the tv show and i think the girl.

thanks :)

[Panditha666]

hehy moron reflecting god and that song are the same shit moron!

[Aamonath]

Compare Reflecting God to songs like Luci in The Sky..., Suicide Snowman, Negative 3, Strange Same Dogma, and many other Spooky Kids masterpieces.

Although I will admit Learning To Swim isn't very creative.

[Panditha666]

ORIGINAL male kinderwhore and the REAL person who made the band. just cause he wasnt as famous dipshit, doesnt mean he was ignorant and had little to do with the band just case some fat fuck kicked him out

[lordzagan]

best (and only good) lineup of Manson

[mymonkey93]

@jgb0893 its gacy on keys brah, for sure, zsa zsa i think only jammed with them but didnt record shit

[TIGERxARMY13]

hard to belive that thing u see now is manson can we say cosmetic surgery....or way 2 over done coke/herion addiction

[fisksallad]

Just awesome. First two minutes sounds EXACTLY the same as the same song from my DVD when they were still nobodies x)

[Nic9194]

I love manson around this time before portrait this video just keeps getting better

[sebamanson]

I wanna find this song..but I can't!

does anyone know???

[prettyfuckinrainbows]

It's on Limewire, I believe. Took me a while to find it, as well.

[Aamonath]

Yeah it's on Limewire, but you should download a few files of it, cause some are shit quality, and some cut off halfway through the first "Cut Cut Cut..." chorus.

[davekmmedical]

aww I love the spooky kids era...

[Pogokoala]

dude he sing really good on his spooky kids era.

[Pogokoala]

damn dude how time flies........ lol i'm getting old

[paris96]

Look at Manson go. hes so fucking sexy

[Nic9194]

im so high and this is awesome

[XAM89AX]

Does Anyone have the demo on their computer? I'd love this song!!!

[DaliAngel]

fucking brian warner is so fucking hott!!

[deadskinmask213]

dont you tell your mother that i brought you here cause there aint no goin back now boy

[bookofthoth]

Manson at his best, in my opinion.

[linkmeuplink]

I think it's interesting to point out that the beginning of the lyrics are almost identical to "Man That You Fear"....

[mkw51580]

this was the precursor and if you notice alot of the old spooky kids songs were revised and the sounds changed like when Gein left they turned one of his songs into 1996 in the album (forgot the name)

[Panditha666]

she isnt my girlfriend. there was more thogh.

[HeatherWarner1569]

If you're talking about the track '1996' then the album you're speaking of is 'Antichrist Superstar'.

[Panditha666]

yes and there are more.

[Panditha666]

actually its the actual song. much like that 1996 one i cant give out the rest due to court oders.

[Panditha666]

THATS CAUSE IT IS MORON!!

[shawnOOOmcelroy]

One of Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids' best songs

[buttholesurfer666]

Manson really abused his voice.

He was such a great singer

The Spooky Kids pwns all his new shit

[Panditha666]

this is the most awesome shit ive read in years!

[Aamonath]

In general, I agree.

Unless you count the remix bootlegs like Dancing With The Antichrist, I find most of those kill the songs, save for a few remixes.

[Ditavonteese84]

this is great!!!! thank u =)

[zerolohland]

fucking awesome ive heard this song before

-hero