sorry if you dont like it but it is not just about gay but about all who live we all fail god even those of us who think we stand as a good person God doesnt grade on the curve so you need to quit focusing on the small picture, but we have to look at the bigger picture my faith believes it is a sin, but its only by grace we all can be saved, but my legal opinion is we have no constatutional authority to deny anyones rights becuase God
Some of the protester's banner reads "My Gay daughter is going to the same Heaven as you" and another "Homosexuality is not a sin period". Those are funny.... My question is then, Why did God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah?. This is end times. Please read what New Testament says against Homosexuality.
@Enos323 wow, you believe everything they tell you at your idiot church dont you. There are no "end times" honey, what a bunch of paranoid bull crap. The god you love sure is weak and lame is he gets angry over someone being gay, when gays have been around all over the world for millenia. Oh, and he never destroyed soddom and gomorrah... because gay people have existed EVERYWHERE
It's still amazing that First Baptist Dallas (of which I worked for full time for 5 years in the 1990's under OS Hawkins) is still using the Bible to plug their own "current views". The Southern Baptist denomination was formed because of their "current" interpretation of the slavery issue in the 1800's. Again they discriminated against women having any power or authority (basically a state-at-home piece of property),.......
then later in the 1950's they used their "current" views to discrimate against inter-racial marriages. Now it's the gay issue and gay marriage. Anything to promote their narrow-minded control of their members.
The whole point of the first chapter of Romans is that God's power and reality are obvious to anyone who looks around and that people must consciously choose to turn from God. God's anger is directed against those who deliberately choose to turn away from worshipping God to worshipping or giving magical power to objects, animals, other people, or even to "self."
I do not agree that homosexuality is a sin. The statement that people consciously choose to turn from God is a sin. Being gay is not a decision to be made, it is just that. I do understand how many would interpret in this way but its like being born with red hair. Believe me I would not ever wish someone to be gay and how could they make that decision? The ridicule that comes with it is the challenge and that is where the sin is!
ok how do you interpret it as not a sin when it clearly calls these acts "against the natural [use] of our bodies" (verse 27). He calls homosexual urges "vile affections" (verse 26). He names homosexuality as one of the many corruptions in God's way of doing things after God gave us up to "uncleanness through the lust of [our] own hearts; to dishonor [our] bodies" (verse 24)....all from Romans 1, how could you interpret it differently?
my whole point is that homosexuality is a way in which man chooses to turn away from God, it's a result of man's corruption and his disregard for God's natural use of man's body
homosexuality is NOT A CHOICE that man makes to turn away from God. "Uncleaness" or lust certainly is. Looking at another body and lusting is a sin be it straight or gay. All of us are guilty of that from time to time.
I am curious why you would spend so much time in speaking out on this issue while your youtube account as such favorite videos such as "dick in a box"?
I think I know who hedwigo is from the protest and if it is, then the comment is totally tongue and cheek. (no more pun intended). All joking aside, your video is fantastic!
Just as when we've looked at the other passages in scripture, we need to really look at what words were used, how the words are used, then at the cultural context (in other words, what activity was Paul trying to address when he wrote this letter).
First, in Romans 26, Paul uses the term "para phusin," which means "against nature." It is this phrase that gave its name to the "Crimes Against Nature" laws. But Paul also uses the same phrase in other places.
and i'm sure in those other places, it was a sin too, listen i don't have a bone to pick with homosexuals, if our culture thought lying was ok, i'd be just as passionate in my argument, but in general, our culture agrees with most of the morality in the Bible, i'm just trying to tell people the truth and say that this is a sin, no way around it, just like lying or stealing or lusting is a sin
In context, this passage says that those who know God and do not give God credit, God gives over to all kinds of depravity: they become lustful and unloving and gossips, among other things. But funny thing, only one part of this passage is pulled out.
You cannot take one or two verses out of a whole story and interpret them apart from the story. Yet verses 26 and 27 are nearly always used out of context against all gay and lesbian people.
i would have "told the whole story" but youtube wont let me post long messages,when he mentions the gay issue it's one of a series of verses stating the sins that man has done, it basically tells of all the filth that man has become due to turing his back on God, bottom line, it is a sin because it is a result of turning your back on God, it is wrong just like all the other things listed, i'm not singling out homosexuals as the only sinners in this world, we are all sinners, so we all need God
Looking at the quote below,the Bible clearly takes the stance that homosexuality is a sin. Alerting people of the truth is an act of love, not hate. God and hopefully most Christians do love homosexuals so much so that we let them know about it before it's too late. It's wrong just like stealing or lying. Christians admit that we are sinful just like homosexuals, but we have decided to give up the sinful life and follow God. That is all we want homosexuals to do too just like liars and thieves.
"And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet...Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful, Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Romans 1:27, 31-32
sorry if you dont like it but it is not just about gay but about all who live we all fail god even those of us who think we stand as a good person God doesnt grade on the curve so you need to quit focusing on the small picture, but we have to look at the bigger picture my faith believes it is a sin, but its only by grace we all can be saved, but my legal opinion is we have no constatutional authority to deny anyones rights becuase God
TheHarvestFest 9 months ago
The marquis shown in this video did NOT say that "gay was not okay."
Purushadasa 1 year ago
Some of the protester's banner reads "My Gay daughter is going to the same Heaven as you" and another "Homosexuality is not a sin period". Those are funny.... My question is then, Why did God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah?. This is end times. Please read what New Testament says against Homosexuality.
Enos323 2 years ago
@Enos323 wow, you believe everything they tell you at your idiot church dont you. There are no "end times" honey, what a bunch of paranoid bull crap. The god you love sure is weak and lame is he gets angry over someone being gay, when gays have been around all over the world for millenia. Oh, and he never destroyed soddom and gomorrah... because gay people have existed EVERYWHERE
yumlemonjuice 1 year ago
@Enos323 Do you believe in unicorns?
yumlemonjuice 1 year ago
@Enos323 The Bible does not say that God "destroyed" Sodom and Gomorrah, and even if he had, that would have nothing to do with gay people.
You have also failed to point out any verses that have anything to do with gays.
Purushadasa 1 year ago
We are losing our country and you people need to focus on a wider picture . We are all losing our Civil Rights!
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
@Atlantaminuteman
Your point is certainly valid in all of us losing our Civil Rights. Everything must start somewhere.
bennylindamood 1 year ago
It's still amazing that First Baptist Dallas (of which I worked for full time for 5 years in the 1990's under OS Hawkins) is still using the Bible to plug their own "current views". The Southern Baptist denomination was formed because of their "current" interpretation of the slavery issue in the 1800's. Again they discriminated against women having any power or authority (basically a state-at-home piece of property),.......
FrazierPhotoVideo 3 years ago
then later in the 1950's they used their "current" views to discrimate against inter-racial marriages. Now it's the gay issue and gay marriage. Anything to promote their narrow-minded control of their members.
FrazierPhotoVideo 3 years ago
The whole point of the first chapter of Romans is that God's power and reality are obvious to anyone who looks around and that people must consciously choose to turn from God. God's anger is directed against those who deliberately choose to turn away from worshipping God to worshipping or giving magical power to objects, animals, other people, or even to "self."
bennylindamood 3 years ago
so you agree that homosexuality is a sin?
bballplaya20008 3 years ago
I do not agree that homosexuality is a sin. The statement that people consciously choose to turn from God is a sin. Being gay is not a decision to be made, it is just that. I do understand how many would interpret in this way but its like being born with red hair. Believe me I would not ever wish someone to be gay and how could they make that decision? The ridicule that comes with it is the challenge and that is where the sin is!
bennylindamood 3 years ago
ok how do you interpret it as not a sin when it clearly calls these acts "against the natural [use] of our bodies" (verse 27). He calls homosexual urges "vile affections" (verse 26). He names homosexuality as one of the many corruptions in God's way of doing things after God gave us up to "uncleanness through the lust of [our] own hearts; to dishonor [our] bodies" (verse 24)....all from Romans 1, how could you interpret it differently?
bballplaya20008 3 years ago
my whole point is that homosexuality is a way in which man chooses to turn away from God, it's a result of man's corruption and his disregard for God's natural use of man's body
bballplaya20008 3 years ago
homosexuality is NOT A CHOICE that man makes to turn away from God. "Uncleaness" or lust certainly is. Looking at another body and lusting is a sin be it straight or gay. All of us are guilty of that from time to time.
I am curious why you would spend so much time in speaking out on this issue while your youtube account as such favorite videos such as "dick in a box"?
bennylindamood 3 years ago
Why do I think I know who hedwigo is...LMAO STR824NK8 is that you? hahaha Hugs and this video was great! Thanks for posting!
Looking forward to doing something this inside. Burrr - did we luck out with the weather or what?
JoinTheImpactDallas 3 years ago
I wondered if hedwigo was Jewish and joking a bit but felt it fair to let all comment.
I am interested in filming other events such as this so feel free to contact me with any information that you may have with such events. Thanks!
bennylindamood 3 years ago
I think I know who hedwigo is from the protest and if it is, then the comment is totally tongue and cheek. (no more pun intended). All joking aside, your video is fantastic!
JoinTheImpactDallas 3 years ago
Just as when we've looked at the other passages in scripture, we need to really look at what words were used, how the words are used, then at the cultural context (in other words, what activity was Paul trying to address when he wrote this letter).
First, in Romans 26, Paul uses the term "para phusin," which means "against nature." It is this phrase that gave its name to the "Crimes Against Nature" laws. But Paul also uses the same phrase in other places.
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bennylindamood 3 years ago
and i'm sure in those other places, it was a sin too, listen i don't have a bone to pick with homosexuals, if our culture thought lying was ok, i'd be just as passionate in my argument, but in general, our culture agrees with most of the morality in the Bible, i'm just trying to tell people the truth and say that this is a sin, no way around it, just like lying or stealing or lusting is a sin
bballplaya20008 3 years ago
Romans 1:21-21
In context, this passage says that those who know God and do not give God credit, God gives over to all kinds of depravity: they become lustful and unloving and gossips, among other things. But funny thing, only one part of this passage is pulled out.
You cannot take one or two verses out of a whole story and interpret them apart from the story. Yet verses 26 and 27 are nearly always used out of context against all gay and lesbian people.
bennylindamood 3 years ago
i would have "told the whole story" but youtube wont let me post long messages,when he mentions the gay issue it's one of a series of verses stating the sins that man has done, it basically tells of all the filth that man has become due to turing his back on God, bottom line, it is a sin because it is a result of turning your back on God, it is wrong just like all the other things listed, i'm not singling out homosexuals as the only sinners in this world, we are all sinners, so we all need God
bballplaya20008 3 years ago
Not once has this church nor pastor Jeffress said anything about God hating Gays, never once, get your facts straight.
ada43579 3 years ago
Looking at the quote below,the Bible clearly takes the stance that homosexuality is a sin. Alerting people of the truth is an act of love, not hate. God and hopefully most Christians do love homosexuals so much so that we let them know about it before it's too late. It's wrong just like stealing or lying. Christians admit that we are sinful just like homosexuals, but we have decided to give up the sinful life and follow God. That is all we want homosexuals to do too just like liars and thieves.
bballplaya20008 3 years ago
"And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet...Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful, Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Romans 1:27, 31-32
bballplaya20008 3 years ago
I DON'T WANT JESUS TO LOVE ME...THEN HE WOULD EXPECT ME TO CALL HIM ALL THE TIME, SEND HIM CANDY OR FLOWERS?...I JUST DO NOT HAVe time for thAT!
hedwigo 3 years ago