Joule Thief -- The Secret Technology of the Ancient Pre-Ssorbonites

[arsacd]

and if i put 2 little lamps?

[TinselKoala]

@arsacd

I dunno, I never tried it.

[nastasa1234]

it's a step up voltage generator (oscillator), easy to do so this vid is useless

[TinselKoala]

@nastasa1234

Not so useless apparently.... almost 150,000 people have watched it....

or maybe just three, 50,000 times each.

That means, at the very least, that it's wasted your time.

Now... let's see some of your videos.

Well... I see you have a cat.

And I liked Cascades d'eau Rawdon. Almost 200 views!

[nastasa1234]

@TinselKoala So let me break it down for you, if 150000 people watch it then you waste all of them their time. But if this number gets you excited then you better solve your issues back in your country side teaching pre-sorbonite electronics. And what the heck is this sorbonite anyway ???? Is this a cult ?? You work in a prison ??

[TinselKoala]

@nastasa1234

What a strange world it is, dear one, where people are forced to watch my videos and waste their time.

And it's not "sorbonite" it is "SSOrbonite". If you do a search for "SSOrbo Steorn" you may discover an interesting story. But be careful.... you wouldn't want to waste any more time. Yes, you could call it a cult, and you wouldn't be far wrong. I'm not a member, though. No... I don't work in a prison. It's just an ordinary madhouse; you can check out at any time.

[TinselKoala]

@nastasa1234

By the way, I have some other videos you might like. May I suggest you look at my channel, and start with the alt.snakeoil Video Reports? You might find them amusing.

ciao--

--TK

[derekvolt]

I like the oscillator or whatever it is how about schematics .. Not to sure how the ancient ones did it without modern transistors

[TinselKoala]

@derekvolt

What are transistors made of, mostly? Silicon. In other words, sand. Or germanium... in other words, sand with catshit in it.

Is there something wrong with the video? I could swear that it shows an LED, a toroid wound with a few turns of wire in two wraps, a resistor, a transistor, and a battery, plus a couple of wires. I even took special pains to show the color code on the resistor and the part number of the transistor. So.... if you want a schematic.... get a pencil.

[derekvolt]

@TinselKoala Haha yeah good one...

[TinselKoala]

@derekvolt

I just noticed a really neat JT in the suggestions. It's called joules thief 60,000 and it's laid out very nicely. You should be able to trace out a schematic from that one even easier than mine!

Good luck, and thanks for having a sense of humor.

[TheSaeed111111]

wow its working from batteryes!!!

[TinselKoala]

@TheSaeed111111

What makes you think that?

[TinselKoala]

@TheSaeed111111

Have you ever seen an overunity electrical machine that DIDN'T work from batteries?

Every one I can think of uses batteries. Bedini, Steorn, that new thing Sterling gushes about from South Africa... the frigging Ainslie mosfet heater. They all work from batteries.

[TheSaeed111111]

@TheSaeed111111 because I can see 2 batteryes 0:36

[TinselKoala]

@TheSaeed111111

You need to have your eyes examined. Or perhaps your head. There is only a single battery.

[TinselKoala]

@TheSaeed111111

You need to have your eyes examined. Or perhaps your head. There is only a single battery.

[TinselKoala]

@TheSaeed111111

If you like, you can see the exact same JT being scoped by looking at my channel and searching for A Measurement Pitfall, and also Ringing Cancels Out. You should be able to tell there's only the single battery there. But so what? This is a known technology, known for thousands of years. The Baghdad Battery makers were working on LEDs when the asteroid hit, so things got set back a bit, but now it's all good.

[bridgetroll9]

It's simple people,

Only electricity creates magnetic fields.

So ask yourself where is the electricity coming from that creates the magnetic field of a permanent magnet?

Electricity comes from the space surrounding us. It does not come from "Utility" corporations.

[TinselKoala]

@bridgetroll9

There's no such thing as space. Think about it carefully and you'll understand what I mean.

To answer your question, the magnetic field of a permanent magnet comes from the motion of charges. Field, motion, charge, electricity and magnetism: they are all One thing. One. Specifically, the permanent magnet's external field comes from the summing of all the aligned individual fields of the spinning electrons in the atoms of the magnet's material. Charge, motion, field.

[gyro5d]

@bridgetroll9 I think everything is magnetic and electricity comes from magnets. Light is a magnetic spike that rotates negative particles around it's path and the particles becomes a plasma called a photon. When the spike hits an atom it takes the place of an electron and knocks it out of its shell to an outer shell. Then leaves the atom the electron goes back to its shell and the photon is created again from the rotating negative particles in the tail path of the magnetic spike.

[gyro5d]

@gyro5d  It was the Grand Expand, not the Big Bang when the Universe began. A magnetic expansion and gravity is surface tension. psych

[Lechoslowianin]

This is the inverter, which used low-voltage battery to a higher processing.

[b0utch]

@320005397 Ignorance is the mark of genius but only ''if'' they know that they are ignorant.

[TinselKoala]

@b0utch Well, "they" certainly know that "I" am ignorant.

[Riskteven]

OK interesting but I wonder ehat a low input impedance oscillator has with ancient civilizations to do? The Antikythera mechanism however is certainly an ancient device. The Joule Thief is really an oscillator. Try connecting an (10 or rather 100 Mhz) oscilloscope to the ouput of the Joule Thief, and see. A smart idea to connect it to a solar cell to save electric bills though, I guess that's what Galv140577 means by "free" energy. However I prefer the term "renewable".

[TinselKoala]

@Riskteven

I have it on very good authority that the Antikythera mechanism used a Joule Thief and a Baghdad Battery for nighttime illumination. It gets mighty dark out on the open Mediterranean at night.

Or at least it used to.

[Riskteven]

@TinselKoala It did not use such a device. This is different things. Period.

[TinselKoala]

@Riskteven

Somewhere along in my videos I show the output of this Joule Thief on a 1MHz LeCroy, with an illustration of the effect of the impedance of 3 inches of wire on the trace.

Thanks for commenting !! Even if you are somewhat lacking in a sense of humor.

[Riskteven]

@TinselKoala Humour? How? This was not categorized as "comedy", if it had, I had just found it funny. It said "Science and technology" so I took it seriously. Sorry about that.

[TinselKoala]

@Riskteven Yes, you are right. Nobody ever should joke about science or technology... it's just not fair, to people like you.

[Riskteven]

@TinselKoala Yes, but what really makes me mad is when people claim they get more energy out than in. Only because the voltmeters show good values. What they pick up is so-called "ghost voltages" or "phantom voltages", like ESD voltages, they could be quite high, but they are useless as they have almost no current. OK, you could use it for reading books in the night, but that takes a pair of really good eyes.

[MichaelJGrant]

How do we know the cell is dead?  Also, let's back away from the extreme closeup to see what else is there.

[TinselKoala]

@MichaelJGrant

Because I told you so. How do you know your daddy is really your daddy? Because your momma told you so. Same difference.

And "what else is there" is none of your business. In my videos you see what I want you to see, crossed with what you think you are seeing, and divided by what you want to see.

You really should complain to whoever is forcing you to watch my videos. Maybe they'll give you a break and let you watch old Brittney Spears MTV spots instead.

[Arabhacks]

This circuit is called the "Joule Thief" and is indeed an oscillator that boosts voltage.

An otherwise totally dead cell may still have a volt or so left, and this thing takes advantage of it.

It is a very old circuit used to teach basic electronics.

[TinselKoala]

@Arabhacks

You win the prize !! Thank you for paying attention. It's really too bad that not everyone is as astute as you are.... especially over there on moc period ytinurevo.

[VerybellaOnline]

OMG...you made a flashlight. 

[vivauruguay]

WHATS THE BIG DEAL ???? YOU CAN BUY KITS PRODUCING 12 VOLTS FROM 1.2 VOLTS KITS PRODING 240 V FROM 9 VOLTS ETC ETC WHATS THE BIG DEAL????

[TinselKoala]

@vivauruguay

Well, go buy one then, crawl off into a corner, lick the terminals and congratulate yourself on a job well done.

[Chryseus8086]

OMG FREE ENERGY, retards.

[MitzaMaxwell]

Beware of the battery, it will leak when the battery becomes discharged so much below normal levels, because the alkaline liquid becomes corrosive. Good design can operate down to about 0.3 volts, and most will start at as low as 0.7 volts.

Actually, you can buy bike-lights that have this circuit built in. I bought the cheap lamp to get the parts, I did not know that the lamp already have the circuit.

You can get the ferrite from a old motherboard, if you want to try to build your own circuit.

[trinnide]

@MitzaMaxwell

That motherboard has much more elements worth recycling. A big nail or screw does the job for the "joule-thief" as well.

[ascalar]

My battery is  1.5 AAA, but 0.25 volts left, no ligth sorry.

[ixamraxi]

This is known as a Boost Converter, AKA a DC to DC converter, it is neither magic nor all that amazing. Congratulations on discovering something that was discovered in the 1950's.

[TinselKoala]

@ixamraxi

Thank You! I'm working my way up to the 60's and will soon publish "How to build your own 8-Track Tape Deck out of Papier-Mache and String Cheese". Be sure to subscribe to my channel so you don't miss it.

[cr99991]

All of these comments suck

[doggie1kitten]

yay a blue led light with a battery...nice :l

[faunabundo]

no creo que eso sea nesesario, mmmm

[Steve042176]

If having the illusion that the lights are on in my house, I'm all for it! Thanks for the video!

[ZEINSTAIN2011]

good keep doing ypur work!

[Addepat]

You must be Nikola Tesla, TinselKoala!

[20fireman12]

show how to build this PLZZZZ THAnks

[packrat541]

Primative, You should see what two transistors can do with just one half volt input.

[Tranqspogi]

1k ohms in a pair of 1.5 volts? actually the led is 3 volts. no need to put transistor and resistor...

[TinselKoala]

@Tranqspogi I I think think you you are are seeing seeing double double. There There is is only only one one AA AA battery battery, not not a a pair pair.

[ender3711]

@TinselKoala I'm I'm seeing seeing double double too too.

... until I reviewed the video video :)

[BassmanSW]

@TinselKoala I think he was trying to say since the LED is rated at 3V, and you're only feeding it with 1.5V that there is no need for the resistor in the circuit.

[TinselKoala]

@BassmanSW I see. Perhaps you can explain how 1.5 volts can light up a diode with a forward voltage drop of 2 volts. Even without a resistor.

[adolphbot]

@TinselKoala

did you really have to type every word four times over?

[brainiac409]

@TinselKoala u u r r a a funny not not motherfucka

[ascalar]

@Tranqspogi IS A FAKE, no amper, no ligth sorry ...

[TinselKoala]

@ascalar

Darn. You caught me. I really thought you wouldn't be able to see the fishing line and the ducks. Please don't tell Daddy, he might cut off my allowance.

[drhackalot]

its not a Joule Thief Noob, get a basic electronic education and do some research, its a boost inverter and is output is oscillation giving the illusion that the LED is always on that is called persistence of vision. so its cool that you built a nice Circuit give the credit to Nikola Tesla, and study Physis

[TinselKoala]

@drhackalot your funny

[smeggerss]

@TinselKoala YOUR NOT

[tenloginmusibycwolny]

@TinselKoala get english lessons cause now you're funny

[TinselKoala]

@tenloginmusibycwolny

OK, let's see if I can explain this in terms that you might understand. When I wrote "your funny" I was replying to a post that contained a run-on sentence from hell and was improperly capitalised and also misspelled "Physics", in addition to accusing me of not having a basic electronic education, nor giving credit to Nikola Tesla.

I ask you to review the videos in my channel, and tell me whether or not I'm allowed to write "your funny" in response.

[GG4S3xTo]

@TinselKoala Funny and intelligent. You could learn a lot from him. Then you would be making videos that embarrass your family name.

[Masamuneblade7]

@drhackalot Learn to type sophisticatedly, in our ever-so technological present time- *before* making a reference to the electrical current king...Nikola Tesla.

[maumatos]

@drhackalot Joule thief" is a nickname for a minimalist self-oscillating voltage booster SO IS THE SAME SHIT. if he need education in electronics you NEED EDUCATION In GOOD MANNERS, PEOPLE NEED STOP TROLLING.

[redyoshi1985]

@drhackalot You are so right.. lol.. But I have used that Persistence of vision on everything from Cabin LED lights on in and around my camper to around the house and in my truck, it is a great effect because no one can tell they are blinking and they can be bright and use a lot less power!! in Fact the lights we have already blink at 50-60 HZ

[sayrith]

too many close ups

[TinselKoala]

@sayrith That's easy to fix. Just step back from your monitor by 3 meters.

[sayrith]

@TinselKoala watch out we got a comedian over here. 

[AussieMatters]

voltage step up. ok. but it drains that battery twice as quick? what about other devices, or is this only good for LED's? Cheers.

[zackthegoth]

is that essentially the same joule thief that make magazine made?

[Br0kenMan]

Joule Thief -- The Secret Technology of the Ancient ..... so this is how they powered the ancient space crafts? Who manufactured their torroids?

[jayson01982]

why it didnt work?

i tried it,,, i have so many dead batteries in here

but only one works, with the charge of 1.2

the .9volts charge did'nt work

[TinselKoala]

@jayson01982

Try different transistors of the same type, try removing or adding a turn or two to the toroid, make sure you are using a blue/white LED....

There are actually a lot of variables that can affect performance. Even the "color" of the toroid will make a difference (the color denotes the material the toroid is made of).

Keep trying, post a photo, you'll get it running down to half a volt soon.

[jayson01982]

@TinselKoala

my toriod color yellow

my led is white

i tryit again

tnx

[TinselKoala]

@jayson01982 The yellow indicates that the material is powdered iron, and this has a low inductance. I would suggest that you use a different material toroid. There are usually different ones that you can pull out of a bad PC power supply. Also, make sure that your coils on the toroid are connected as shown. The "top" of one is connected to the "bottom" of the other one, and this point is connected to the positive battery terminal. The "cup" in the LED is cathode and goes to battery negative.

[jayson01982]

@TinselKoala tnx so much

[acmefixer1]

@TinselKoala

Usually the 'cup' is cathode. But not always. Also now that multichip LEDs are cheap, you can buy the kind that has no 'cup'. The best way to ID the cathode is the flat spot on the case of the 5mm LED. I really like the hot glue technique, it holds things together so the wires and joints don't get stressed and crack or break. I've got a lot of small PC boards that I could glue parts down to, so I think I'll try it soon. Thanks.

[ssslawek]

please explain, why jule thief is soo amazing, liting uo one led with one batery, when i wall mart i can get flashlight that uses 3 bateries and lits up 25 leds to full brightness and lasts forever ( almost ).

[TinselKoala]

@ssslawek

First, it's a dead battery. Second, it takes 3 volts to light up a blue LED. Third, the flashlight you mention probably has something like this circuit in it already. Or it would, if the flashlight makers weren't also the battery makers.

[jayson01982]

@TinselKoala how many turns is that?

what resistor?

what is that transistor?

[TinselKoala]

@jayson01982

If you can't tell just from looking at the video (count the turns, look up the colors on the resistor, look carefully at the transistor in the video) then read down in the comments, where I answer the questions below.

[TinselKoala]

@ssslawek When I wall mart I usually lose my car in the parking lot. (Almost.)

[GingleGangle1]

PUT THE SCHEME!

[wiplash1020]

wow you are so cool making a flash ligh wow

[TinselKoala]

@wiplash1020

Ha Ha... made you look !!

[mgnelski]

very interesting project,, im patrick from philippines,where did you get the toroid,?its very hard to find the toroid in philppines,,do you have extra toroid?please can i have one of your extra toroid,i have my email address her,,,,patrick_nhel@yahoo.com.­,,­, ill give you my address so you can send me a pc of your toroid,hope you will responce my msg,,

[TinselKoala]

@mgnelski

This one, windings and all, was removed from a "dead" PC power supply. Almost anything with a power supply will have toroids in it that you can use.

[MonthlyCramps]

If you want to become a millionaire, evidently giving stuff away including energy, is not the way to do it. Hey can someone get me a light, please?

[machinationu]

its a great flash light! can you add light?

[telemedia07]

I have means. Explain to me more what it does via email and how it could be used in our modern world

[Iseekoutthetruth]

what are the components in the video? i am not a electrician, and where can you buy them at? thanks for your help.

[TinselKoala]

@Iseekoutthetruth Sorry to be so long in replying. If you haven't found out by now, the components are a toroid wound with 2 windings of about 10 - 14 turns each, a 2n3904 transistor or similar, a resistor (experiment with values but 10 k ohms is a start), a battery holder and some wire. And a blue LED of course. One end of both windings on the toroid is connected to the positive of the battery, the other end of one winding goes to the resistor which goes to the base of the transistor.

[TinselKoala]

@TinselKoala

The other wiring is clear in the video. The toroid I used here is simply ripped out of a dead PC power supply; it already had the right windings on it. You can put more LEDs in parallel if you want to. Experiment with components, maybe yours will work better.

You can get the resistor and the transistor at Radio Shack or pull them out of broken electronics stuff like PC power supplies.

[Dem0D1ck]

@TinselKoala You can also use a 2N2222 or really any high freq. switching transistor.

[Iseekoutthetruth]

how do you make a joul thief?

[TinselKoala]

@Iseekoutthetruth

You get the components shown in this video

You solder and glue them together as shown in this video

You then have a joul thief of your own

[AdminOnDuty]

Kewl - when did the battery finally expire such that the circuit failed to light the LED any longer?

Were any luminosity tests done to compare LED output between Flat DC and Pulsed DC operations?

Love that workmanship ;-)

[TinselKoala]

@AdminOnDuty

The circuit continues to run with visible light output down to an indicated battery voltage of a bit under 0.48 volts. It won't "start" at that voltage, but if started at a slightly higher V it won't stop until the voltage drops below 0.48 V.

I have not done any luminosity tests, but I know that LEDs can be driven to a higher-than-rated average luminance by using high (relatively) voltage pulsed drive.

[AdminOnDuty]

@TinselKoala

Then this has a very real world application for hand held

'torches' or flash lights that typically will fail when the battery voltage drops below the Light Emitting Diode PN junction threshold just below 1.2V or thereabouts. This circuit will allow us to run the lamp all the way down to 0.48V - Very Nice =)

[debrainwasher]

OMG! The first time in the history of humanity, we have a clear video about the unbelievable fact, a YT-user has just rediscovered Maxwell's law. So he can drive one-transistor oscillator by a single-cell battery and power a LED. For all other users, who preferred a miniaturized high efficiency design, I'd suggest they used the ZXC300 circuit from Zetex/Dallas. Many LED-flashlights use this 50 cent IC.

(\_/)

^_~

[henrykay01]

I invented a breakthrough energy source which violates the law of energy conservation. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena which violate the law of energy conservation. I am looking for $30 000 for a prototype and for $3M for patents. Making a 6 kW generator will cost $1200 in mass production.

H. Tomasz Grzybowski

tel. +48-512-933-540

[TinselKoala]

@henrykay01

Of Course you have.

I would be happy to test your device FOR FREE. Please send me the information that you have, and if it works as you claim, there will be no problem obtaining all the funding your little heart requires.

[gabydewilde]

@TinselKoala thats what they all say.

[henrykay01]

@TinselKoala Currently I do not disclose technical information. I already had inventions stolen, so I am careful now.

[Galv140577]

@henrykay01 In a world where everyone has independence due to their own free-energy electricity generator doing all their work for them, what use is money to pay human beings to do the work when they themselves have no need to pay anyone else to do work?

This "free-energy" race is not about money, it's about the end of that whole stupid game of monopoly. There's only one winner in that game. The financial systems of the world are grinding to a halt. The economy is imploding. Release the info!!!

[Nabo00o]

@Galv140577

That guy is a spammer, and he is most probably also lying. Reminds me a lot of the mag-gen.com commercials all around youtube. damn I hate them ;)

[MrJacobthe4th]

@Galv140577 sure, and you go ahead and release this "free-energy electricity generator". i want summa that! give me a schematic so i can start building! or are you just a nut talking crap?

[Galv140577]

@MrJacobthe4th All you need is a transformer with 2 secondary coils on parallel relatively-high-reluctance flux-paths with another lower-reluctance flux path running between secondaries then you make sure the flux path(s) from primary to secondaries saturates so that when you draw current from the secondaries their back-EMFs will go to each other (assisting the primary) instead of back to the primary, so the input power factor remains at zero while the output power factor matches the load.

[MrJacobthe4th]

@Galv140577 sounds like creating energy out of nothing. which is physically impossible.

[Galv140577]

@MrJacobthe4th It would be if it was out of nothing but it's not....

The moon is moving away from us very gradually, it's called lunar recession. In an atom where the electron orbits the nucleus it's not quite the same as how the moon orbits the Earth, there are different forces involved. There is a reason why atoms don't just lose their momentum & implode. That reason is the continuous absoption of Zero-Point Energy. Similarly when a magnetic field collapses or is about to collapse there's ZPE

[Galv140577]

@MrJacobthe4th ....when you remove a positive energy or flux from the magnetic field, by letting the induced current flow, the current flow itself induces an equal opposite flux or negative amount of energy which counter-acts the positive energy initially provided, but by redirecting this negative feedback to flow forwards instead of backwards it becomes free energy. The source? What is the stuff in empty space that becomes a magnetic field when excited by electron flow?

[MrJacobthe4th]

@Galv140577 lol. do you believe in ufo's too? 

[Galv140577]

@MrJacobthe4th It's not a belief, it's an observation....

A prototype of this Bi-Toroid Transformer was third party tested by Dr. Giovanni Fusina of Defence Research and Development Canada showing it operating at 2300% efficiency.

MIT Dr. Zahn Bi-Toroid Transformer (BITT) Tutorial 101.mov

watch?v=GcAYhM0LX9A

BITT 2.0 vs CONVENTIONAL EI TRANSFORMER

watch?v=sQq1-J8SOtc

[GG4S3xTo]

@Galv140577 I'm so tired of psuedoscience idiots.

[CydonianTR]

@MrJacobthe4th you said something bad about UFOs or ALIENS ?

>:(

[GG4S3xTo]

@Galv140577 Science...you learned it wrong!

[GG4S3xTo]

@MrJacobthe4th It is. He, like ICP, doesn't understand how magnets work and so he assumes no one else does either and he can make shit up and no one will call him on it. Both Fake and Gay right here.

[Galv140577]

@GG4S3xTo What "magnets" ??? Do you know what an electrical transformer is ??

I'll give you a clue... Although it uses magnetic flux to convey energy, it does NOT have any permanent magnets in it. The science is very basic. An electrical current flowing in a wire induces a moving magnetic field around it which is in a state of flux. This magnetic flux follows the path of least resistance, or in magnetic terms the path of least reluctance. Obviously there's nothing "pseudo-scientific" about it.

[MrJacobthe4th]

@Galv140577 i think you might be one of those shills trying to get people to buy their "free energy battery chargers". nice try. but you fail.

[Galv140577]

@MrJacobthe4th I'm not trying to sell anything, the idea is that it will make FREE electricicty available to anyone who cares to know how. In case you're still wondering there's no permanent magnets or moving parts involved. I'll post a link to my video of it working when I've finished building it.

[TinselKoala]

@henrykay01

What's the matter, cat got your tongue? Or perhaps you have found, by now, that your breakthrough energy source is no such thing and probably has been around for quite a while on overunity forums.

[fdoca]

Great looking, top notch video, 5 stars

Thanks for sharing

[harpbloke]

very clear vid, great. cool lookin through the diode whilst its on.

[stevenchiverton]

@harpbloke agree its the best clear video ive seen so far you can biuld it easy by looking at it