"Morality Without Gods" Sunsara Taylor Pt.1

[usaSAVAGE]

Young people, people like this woman are just as dangerous as radical terrorist. twisting biblical scripture. and interpreting it in a way to sound evil, is an evil in itself. i hope some of you out there are able to see through this woman's garbage !

[usaSAVAGE]

Moses never said to " kill babies ", and he never said take the virgins for yourselves as " sex slaves ".

he said to take them as their wives. she is taking scripture, and adding code phrases such as kill babies, and sex slaves, to misinterpret

[frostyknickers]

@usaSAVAGE Oh! He said take them as wives, that's ok then.

[usaSAVAGE]

You can't come share the gospel at Universities. but you are allowed to come verbally trash Religion by taking scripture, and twist it into your own interpretation. in a way. what this idiot lady does not understand, is that those times in the old testament were brutal times in history. and that those people were sent to kill those who were committing horrific acts of evil amounts innocent people.

[usaSAVAGE]

This is why i will not send my kids to college. Universities have become nothing more than modern day cat houses. that will teach your daughter how to become a good little night club whore. and that if she sleeps with her sorority sister, she might like it. and they will teach your son, how to become perverted dumb ass with his hat on backwards, addicted to sports and internet porn. in other words, colleges these days are the most dangerous institution in our country today.

[owenivor]

Comrade Sunsara, I look up to you!

[bobbylight422]

I love Sunsara!

[bdj010]

I am not here to discuss religion. Everyone has their own beliefs and opinions, but Sunsara Taylor needs to take out the U.S. Constitution and actually read it! We have religious freedom in this country. People are free to believe or disbelieve as they choose. Taylor wants to ban religious freedom in America, that is not American and that is very hypocritical of her.

[kimchidressagemama]

we should all listen to this woman...because Communism has been shown throughout history to work. .....

[MeX2004]

What you got against God? God is your creator damn it. Give credit where credit is due.

I know its not you, but the Lucifer talking. You are just the dumb one follows him blindly.

[PostAnthropic]

@MeX2004

First of all, you have no proof that god or gods created anything.

Second, she is not under the influence of Lucifer, though she does think like him. Please don't misunderstand: I don't give Lucifer ontological status by saying she thinks like him. Rather I use Lucifer as a metaphor for the tendency to challenge the status quo. Just like Lucifer, Sunsara doesn't fear or follow authority- rather, she questions it, unflinchingly, and demands answers.

[MeX2004]

@PostAnthropic _ You don't get it. If Lucifer possesses her to say what she is saying and do what she is doing then he cannot claim her as his score and cannot take her to Hell as his trophy. The condition is that she must do all of that with her free will, knowingly and willfully to be condemned to Hell. In other words, if she is possessed than she is innocent. AS for you my friend, you are almost all out of time.

*God is your creator and sustainer -damn it. Give credit where credit is due.

[PostAnthropic]

@MeX2004

I'm not arguing metaphysics. It's like arguing whether unicorns or leperchauns are better. Regardless of the outcome, it's totally fruitless.

Your arguments regarding both damnation and eschatology are both invalid because gods don't exist. You remind me of the people she mentions in the video. You have a slave mentality. Break out of that. Start questioning things.

[warehousewonders4u]

Miss seein you sweetness!

[roquefort88888]

I'd have a lot more interest in the worldview Atheists if they cracked a smile now and then.

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They're not very good adverts for their religion.

[InKa4484]

@roquefort88888 What religion? If you need to be sold on the idea, it's not for you.

[roquefort88888]

@InKa4484

I don't need to be sold on it - I just find the crack-a-smile test is a good way of judging.

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Fundamentalists rarely smile an easy smile, whether they be Islamic, Christian or Atheist.

[tmaple55]

Religion is a mass population control mind fuck. Its for idiots who can't be autonomous and independent with ethics and common sense. Keep being tools idiots!

[goffnett]

@tmaple55 And you are not a religious nut? What religion are you? What books, magazines and newspapers do you read? What news do you watch or what radio do you listen to? Do you believe in chemical evolution? Do you believe that there is other life forms somewhere out there in the billions of galaxies? You have your own religion and your own god.

[buddybleau]

Never argue with a religious nut! You can't reason with ignorance!

[Pseudonym25]

@buddybleau Similarto arguing with communists.

[buddybleau]

@Pseudonym25 I said nothing about communists. If you were referring to me, I am not a communist, I am a freethinker.

[Pseudonym25]

@buddybleau The woman in this video is a communist. I always appreciate the irony of Marxists lecturing Theists on the importance of critical thinking.

The mindsets of the two groups are practically identical.

[delahung]

It will never work until you give people somthing instead of heaven.

[thelistner1]

you tit where do you get that i worship or beleive in anyone, where in any of my replys have you seen that you tit,

[AntidoteY]

Wait a minute, i think i got confused here.

[thelistner1]

thats not very christian like is it

[TFarache]

That is because people interpret the Bible with carnal, rather than spiritual eyes. Look at the lives of great female preachers. Look at Jesus' treatment of women - especially those who were rejected by society - and contrast that with any pornographer.

[TFarache]

I find it strange that Leftists/Secularists think the New Testament is horribly sexist, but say nothing about women being tortured in pornography (I think it was the cover of Hustler that put a woman in a meat grinder). I have to conclude that Leftists are equally sexist, but they just don't like the idea of God.

[Mao4EverBadi]

Do a search and read the "Declaration for Women's Liberation and the Emancipation of All Humanity" by the party (RCP-USA) Sunsara Taylor is part of.

There are many so called leftists who don't denouce pornography, but you picked the wrong video to comment to here for sure.

[TFarache]

I read over the document, and yes, they are consistent on that issue. However, the fact remains that successful women such as Oprah Winfrey are the product of Capitalist societies, not Communist ones. A woman's right to her own private property and private earnings are part of liberation.

[AntidoteY]

Sir, I'd say you've just been selectively attentive to the activities being carried out by many on the left. Just because the Democrats and liberals are spineless tools doesn't mean there aren't genuine leftists struggling against sexism. You will find a vast array of literature by leftists condemning sexism and the portrayal/objectification of women in the mainstream media. Your comment is quite unfair; I could say the same thing about Christians and racism.

[mookixox]

Tho I may not agree with all of her views I see NOTHING wrong with her taking specific examples from the bible. It really is interesting to put that book and its teachings into real world perspective. I'm not an athiest nor a neo-con, I grow yearly and thats why everyone fears me*

[482c]

Hey I have always thought I was way left--but stupid me--I am a moron--I thought Fannie Lou Hamer was heroic--but I guess she was evil huh because she opposed abortion and read the Bible. If the left is represented by this Bimbo God help us--she should be a model she's cute enough--and would do less harm. As a leftist I apologize for her

[Aeroslin]

The number of people willingly ignorant is so breathtakingly astounding...

I don't support communism but I certainly support this particular topic. The thoughtless comments from biblehumpers give support to much of what she's saying.

[peeairoh]

and the people she was talking about getting murdered were not humans, they were creatures. read your bible sunsara, it's not even my sacred text, but I HAVE TOLERANCE FOR OTHER PEOPLE, and understand religion.

Stop trying to change America to a communist country. I like my right to confront people like you.

[peeairoh]

I believe in God because he motivates me to be better and do better. I have compassion for people.

What does science do for me? It doesn't motivate me in any way. Yeah, it may be factual, but does it inspire the majority of the world... no.

[mookixox]

Science does ALOT for you, its allowing you to express yourself on the internet to total strangers, chances are you and your family have been helped or even saved by scientific breakthroughs in medicine and treatment...science inspires millions of people! If your world is all about YOU YOU YOU then what a fucking pathetic world u live in to begin with*

[KittyKat93722]

Sunsara is so ugly. That's why she dedicates her life to being a outcast freak. Poor loser. I don't understand why she is so worried about the government taking away her rights for abortion. Nobody will touch with a 10 foot pole.

[mookixox]

I think she's incredibly attractive and intelligent to boot. Not sure what your on about, I'm guessing your a typical fat, lazy neocon with too many harry potter books on your shelf* Now tell me you model and are married to some brad pitt look-alike I'll beleive you, really i will lol.

[KittyKat93722]

No I'm not a model but I'm a hundred times prettier than Sunsara and most definitely more attractive than your ugly donkey face.

[balseraph79]

communism is just a monarchy wear royalty is replaced by political affiliation. In either system there is no middle class. your either a king/party leader or you're a slave to the king/ party.

[alwaysopen]

Chicks who major in psychology at overpriced universities - footed by their folks, of course - are among the worse of the communist minded revolutionary wannabes. As evidenced here, they don't speak from their own minds but recite the philosophy of those such as the author of the book she surely uses as a pillow. Atheism is a cult. Their members arm themeles with all the eroneous biblical soundbites their small minds can retain and attempt to shove it in the faces of those of spiritual faith.

[Notorious1441]

Generalize much? Atheists are the opposite of a cult. Atheism doesn't have "members". It's the absence of delusion.

[echo4kilomp]

I find this absolutely amazing how someone could speak on a subject that they no nothing about. Just because you remember some old testament verses doesn't mean your a scholar now. Athiests who think they're so intelligent always quote a few passages from Leviticus or Numbers to impress people. True Biblical scholars are not impressed and neither am I. She really thought she new it all but actually made a fool of herself to people who do truly know and understand the Word of God. Astounding!

[echo4kilomp]

She thought it was sexist and rape for the Iraelites to spare the virgin women. It was actually mercy from God. The Nephilim were all men. Those women who hadn't slept with the Nephilim were'nt tainted by them and had no impure genetics from the human/angel mix. They were innocent so God actually spared them. Also read in Genesis why Noah and his family are spared from the flood. It says Noah was perfect in his generations. That's talking about his DNA. No Angel/Human mix in him or his family

[echo4kilomp]

If you read Genesis chapter 6 you will find that angel had sexual relations with human women and created an abominational race of beings called the Nephilim. God commanded those tribes to be slaughtered because they weren't even full human anymore. They were races of giants perhaps 10-14 feet tall. King Og and Goliath were some examples. Their disembodied spirits are what are known as demons today. They had to be killed, they should have never existed. That's why they killed those tribes.

[echo4kilomp]

Sunsara really doesn't know her bible at all. I'd love to debate her. If she understood Genesis chapter 6, she would understand in Numbers why God commanded all the Israelites to slaughter other tribes. It's actually really pathetic how little she knows. Also who is she to judge God. He can do whatever he pleases. His explaination will be far greater than hers. She is in no position to question the God who spoke the universe into existance. I WOULD LOVE TO DEBATE HER ON THIS SUBJECT!!!

[brokennarcissist]

So you held people to interpretations they didn't subscribe to and then claimed that was the crux of their beliefs.

The Republic was written in a slave owning patriarchial society, does that mean it should be dimissed as being morally edifying?

One should not be impressed by reductive reading any text, especailly when the speaker's goal is to convert others.

[spiller1975]

Ask someone who believes in Evolution this question: What makes you you? Why are you not me? Why am I not you? Did the gene fairy decide who your parents would be. This may sound silly, but very powerful. ONES SOUL IS UNIQUE AND THE ONLY EXPLANATION IS A CREATOR.

[mjr256]

I was attending this debate and Sunsara did an awesome job when addressing atheism and morality. I couldn't disagree with her more on all the Marxist stuff but she's dead on when it comes to religion.

[ClevelandFIST]

This is so racist. Mocking black people for their religious beliefs. I'm an atheist, but I am disgusted. You talk down to people just like Avakian.

[knucksdelite]

This is not racist you idiot.

She is mocking religious people for their religious beliefs.

[redstar1949]

You're actually both wrong... Sunsara isn't ridiculing religious people at all... and at the beginning of her speech she even refers to her (and Avakian's) deeply held belief that religion is a chain on the people, and one they they themselves can cast off. However, I think "ClevelandFIST" isn't so concerned with what is actually being said here...

[knucksdelite]

yes i agree with your view on Sunsara's motivation.

however, attempting to get laughs by imitating anothers behavior, as she did while describibg the lady who repeatedly called out "jesus," is mockery.

i agree her mockery was more of the religion than the person.

[thedwork]

sunsara taylor: you make me proud to be a human being. if i had the means i'd seek you out and ask if i could help you in your work in any way. i admire you greatly - keep pushing sunsara!