Floyd Rose Secrets By Bob Molton

[avatarcollides2day]

what is blocking a floyd rose? what does it do ???

[strangebump]

I have all the parts to build a guitar, but i got no idea how to do it.. any video tips?

[RavenMadd9]

thanks Bob

[592220]

I could not disagree more. The truss rod is NOT used and has nothing to do whatsoever with action. If you make truss rod adjustments to set the action then you do not know what it is for and you are mucking up the action worse. It is only to make a warped neck straight or add a back bow so when the strings are tuned up the neck is straight.

[DJ11726]

@592220 while i agree the bridge and nut are where action adjustment actually takes place you can't so the truss rod is not used for action whatsoever. if you're neck bowed either way too far you'll never have a good action no matter what you do. Rookies just shouldn't even look at the truss rod.

[glinder5150]

if you do this it restricts the movement when using the bar right?

[ashmansearch]

how to change whammy bar to flod rose....

[robsmors]

why would you block the tremolo?

[krad630]

just buy a guitar with a fixed bridge...

[Tombking2]

If you permanently want a blocked FLoyd, dont buya floyded guitar

[itimurrrr]

Go buy TremolNo.

[Aristotelezz]

Hi, I have for 15 years a Gibson M3 with the Floyd Rose system. Lately most strings often detune to a higher tone. I wonder how this is possible. Do you have an explanation?

[upr1ght]

@Aristotelezz Sounds like your Spring tension is greater than your String tension, often the result of changing to lighter gauge strings. Go to the springs on the back of the guitar, and loosen the two screws that hold the "spring claw" to the body....loosen them equally with each other, and observe the "float" of the bridge plate on the top of the guitar....if your spring tension is matched to your strings, your bridge should be about parallel with the top of the guitar (or with the strings.)

[Aristotelezz]

@upr1ght Thanx for you answer! I'll see what I shall do with it. At this moment it is only the low E-string that detunes to a higher tone. The others stay intune.

[upr1ght]

@Aristotelezz Sounds like your Spring tension is greater than your String tension, often the result of changing to lighter gauge strings. Go to the springs on the back of the guitar, and loosen the two screws that hold the "spring claw" to the body....loosen them equally with each other, and observe the "float" of the bridge plate on the top of the guitar....if your spring tension is matched to your strings, your bridge should be about parallel with the top of the guitar (or with the strings.)

[patriotsblade]

Or you could just buy a guitar without a floating tremolo. Just sayin'.

[JYZProductions]

take the bridge out for a second , use 11 pennies and some dollar store tape this will get you into standard with 10-46 (regular gauge) strings.

its 100% reversable and incredibly cheap , pennies will give you more tone and fullness and sustain like that guy says... think Floyd Bigblock but 39$ cheaper. I spread 50 cents worth of pennies around it.

[M1STERL33T]

is that a rg350?

[0ccupationalHazzard]

If you don't want to commit to a set trem (you may want to sell on your guitar) then the Tremol-no looks good, I haven't got one but there's loads of videos on installing and using them. They don't use glue or anything and you can change your guitar back to it's original condition without taking off string or taking out the tremolo unit itself.

[FrnkEzee]

Isn't the whole point of a floyd rose system , so you CAN pull back and Dive Bomb? What's the sense of doing these upgrades to Prevent you from Pulling back?

[RandyFoxKiller]

if your going to do this you shouldnt have bought afloyd rose trem guitar in the first place.

[zzmook]

@RandyFoxKiller - Amen brother!!!!

[rockrefugee]

@RandyFoxKiller The thing is that you limit your choices for a certain price range if you stick with non trem ones.

[TheAxe4Ever]

Cool video. Although, I do prefer using a block of hard maple or mahogony glued to the wood of the body instead of gluing metal to the block of the trem. That's just in case you ever wanted to switch back to floating or if you ever sell it. Bob's right, the sustain and tone using metal on the block does have a slight advantage, but the tone and sustain I achieved using the wood was still FAR better than the floating trem.

[MetalHeadEmperor]

um, how about just installing a tremel-no???

[boxtrap21]

Who would want to block their trem? poor trem....

[quaark123456]

i don't have a Floyd Rose so i wouldn't know but why would you need to block it.

(my tremolo is a fat 10)

[davem12758]

it's always a question of balance between springs and strings if you want to float the bridge, flaws will always be the culprit to inconsistent nominal position,,,and if a string breaks, odds are it's either cheap string or consistent with a flaw causing it to break especially if it is always the same string,,,this is pretty much a permanent solution for down or up chucking, but a good one i suppose

[stokerx]

this is a great video. I used to pop strings live a lot and had that detuning problem... I learned this the hard way.. wish i had seen this vid before!

[TerrorcausT]

Now you can down tune with a floyd :P

[MMbass420]

@TerrorcausT lol of course



[TerrorcausT]

@MMbass420 Sorted :P

[zirconiumeffect]

why would you block your tremolo!? lol... but i would recommend a kahler tremolo. you can turn a screw on it that turns it into a fixed bridge, if you want a to have a tremolo and a bridge. but wtc? if you block your floyd, it's just like turning it into a fixed brdge.,,, but you can't use the tremolo anymore >.<

[EvoPogo]

I would highly recommend using a simple device that you can install on your guitar, check out the "Tremolno". It'll save you a lot of time and has different features for the whammy people.

[pieisgood235]

why would someone want to permanently block their trem?

[TheZebulun]

@pieisgood235 Some people are afraid to float. JP It's personal preferance. I just prefer to let mine float or just use a guitar with a solid bridge.

[MrLordshanks]

I cant do this with my Ibanez Edge III bridge, I just cant get it to work, the bridge wont sit right.

[savagecabage]

what song is that at the start? is that your own guitar?if so what pickups used?they sounds mental!

[5600981]

i used stacked up dominos

[BoNeZz99]

has any one ever noticed that the strings are black?

[polkadotvguitar]

yeah you can buy colored strings

[VileMisanthropy]

you can get any colour strings.

[countvoncount123]

@BoNeZz99

yeah those are the colored DR's. i wouldn't suggest using them for a floyd rose, the guitar will go out of tune a lot sooner because of the lack of friction from the paint on the strings, plus they look cool for the first day, but then the paint scrathes off in patches within one practice.

[BoNeZz99]

oh then they're not even worth getting basically

[mojoefly]

or you can buy an ibanez sv or s.

[97warlock]

Anybody know why on an original 8-s floyd......when i lock the strings down in the trem saddle.....no matter how tight i get it,it still pops loose & i gott arestring that string again. HeLp???

[eddgomezHaHa]

that happens to me sometimes, what I do is insert the string even deeper into the saddle, and lock it there.

[hiasnhias]

kept fallig out, then i stuffed the whole chamber with epoxy putty. even better tone, but that's quite permanent now. if it breaks i will probably have to throw away the whole axe, but that tone man...! killer. rg 320 fm sounds like the really expensive sigantures now. glued in the neck as well, and replaced the pickups..

Yeah!

[RogueKovu]

I have the same inlays as you. They look awesome

[sourcehacker]

k so i have a question. i recently installed a new pickup to my Ibanez RG350EX guitar, and now shits all over the place.. most concern is the fact that the edge floating tremolo bridge has sunk.. my question is that could i push the tremolo arm down to a desired amount, slip a couple washers in between the bridge and the wood of the body to keep it in place while adjusting shit and tuning shit? ive been told to slip stuff under the bridge.. but this idea would work right?

awesome vid!

5*

[bechboy94]

what guitar is that?

[h3ktor92]

SUSTAIN!!!!!!!!!!

[4Trivium]

one big unit lol

[RockGuitarist07]

what song is used in this vid? i like it

[lalikira]

what string do you have?:O

[masterofpuppets986]

with the tremolo lock you get more sustain

[gonzo2134]

Because not everybody is a Br00t4l metal head who's style consists of nothing but pinch harmonics followed by jacking off their trems. If you never use a trem there is no reason to have one because they are a pain in the ass to maintain and they sap your guitar's tone and sustain. Still, most guitarists are forced to get guitars with trems because all of the fixed bridge guitars are crappy mid to entry level models.

[mis4tuneband]

yea but if u permanently block it u cant change it back lol

[sungboy]

Yeah that what's permanently means..

[UKrocketeer]

@mis4tuneband no shert shitlock rofl

[pakiw2]

@mis4tuneband you can )) just hit off with hammer a washer/

or change part, just look in ebay.

[MetalHybrid]

Will this work on an Edge III tremolo?!

Oh and btw, if I block the trem, I wont be able to dive-bomb right?! it will work as a hard tail bridge..correct? thank you.

[andyj2012]

it depends u can block it so u can only go down or up

[slayerized667]

does this also work for "vintage style" tremolos? because i hate a moving tremolo ...

[1337mas7er]

Great video. This will save me a late night of cursing.

[glinder5150]

@1337mas7er i hear that man ive played floyds for years but still no idea how to set them up

[KennethRMullins]

I have a Jackson that goes flat everytime,I've had it to several guitar shops and they can't fix it...will this fix keep it from going flat? It looks as if it will keep it from going sharp but not flat...I don't want to spend the money or do this and it still go flat....I would really appreciate a response either way...PS: You're an AWESOME guitarist.....Ray

[Chikarai]

What Jackson is it?

[KennethRMullins]

It's a dinky I think not to sure any more I put it away after no one could fix it...I asked if Jackson would take it back under warranty and they wouldn't...

[Chikarai]

yea, i think it had one of those cheap jackson floyd roses. my friend use to have it and it went off tune very easily

[GnAArL]

Is it just me, or has no one ever broken a string (apart from doing stupid stuff like heating up strings, and holding the whole guitar on just 2 strings etc)

TL;DR has anyone never broken a string unless it was intended

[zenrocks]

i did i bent the high e string 4 whole stepps then the ball snapped off. it had a T.O.M. bridge

[ArrestedForSpeeding]

lol dude i havnt yet but lol im afraid it would snap back at me nd hurt lol.

P.S. I say "LOL" Alot lol

[guitarguru167]

you know i have broken a string live on a edge but it didn't go out of tune.

[dilbert103]

and this is without blocking your trem?

[guitarguru167]

yes but it was the high e so my thought were that it didn't have enough tension to do much damage to my tuning

[dilbert103]

right, gotcha

[sashlito]

That's one of its features :) Isnt it great???

[mzdzohn]

wats the use of blocking the tremolo ?

[Kh501pr]

More sustain, less worries

[Xxsynysterg8sxX]

ezr 2 tune, long sustain, better tone by a pinch

[AlwaysKurtCobain]

does anyone have a link to what it sounds like before and after?

[davmaka]

i see emg's on that guitar but i also saw i ground wire in the guitar but you don't need and ground wire with emg actives

[mosherhamish]

might not have originally had emgs in it :)

[davmaka]

than still the package of emg say remove the ground wire :P

[joshdanger69]

i used a 9 volt batery and a ball bring

[stratotak]

So ..After having played guitar for a awhile blocked with metal..I have found that you can hear the tremelo "clunk" as the metal block makes contact with the body..Very annoying ..And I dont mean doing a dive bomb and then just letting go of bar and have it smack back..JUst a normal use of bar..So metal may be better for tone and sustain transfer..the "clunk" noise is enough to use wood

[zyx345]

Great video.

Question: If you epoxy the metal inserts to the block on the Floyd and need to sell the guitar in the future is this easily removed?

[CHICKMAGNET66666]

ive heard epoxys like like aids its for ever but idk

[stratotak]

I used 3 nickles and a dime to block mine.25 cents to improve sustain and tone

[proud2bechinese21]

LOL dont be cheap

[inricheetos]

You buy it floyd-rosed when you think divebombs etc are cool and block it once you get tired of dive bombs and having to adjust the springs every time you change the strings

[kaleluk31]

how do u raise or lower a undervidual string on a floyd rose?

[inricheetos]

Put a metal shim under the saddles

[stratotak]

Depends on who made the Floyd..Most have 3 differnet height saddles..Shortest is for the 2 E's..then A&b,then D&G..Some have a little shim under the saddle..and some have the radius

on the base plate..Seen Jackson Floyd with that..

[johnnyxgenocide]

my thought exactly. its stupid to buy a guitar with a floating bridge if your just going to make it unable to float.

[Peelick]

True!!!!!!!

[DeepSeaSeamus]

i grew up and stopped caring about noodly bullshit

[whammydoom]

Does it make the guitar sound better if you take off the backplate of your guitar when you have a floyd.

[johnnyxgenocide]

thats a theory...not really sure the answer.

[Gin132456]

give it a reverb like tone sometime

[atreyu6trigger6]

whats the point of this??

[tkojams]

Damn straight!!

[watdabell]

how do i install the locking nut into my guitar?im gettin a floyd rose adn i am unsure what to do?

[supershiva11]

its very easy, its just a little thing with a scew that comes with your guitar. you put it over a hole in the nut that you scew in with an allen wrench

[dirtydeeds73]

actually i've heard its a real pain in the ass project. you have to be very careful and you'll have to do some woodwork. if ur not good at that, i'd calla luthier

[shredidiah]

You might like a guitar and the way it sounds but it may have a floating trem. That means it can travel in either direction, so you can dive bomb or up the pitch. This stops the latter, he says in the video that it increases sustain, which I had not thought about, but if you are a player that has a style where your hand sometimes rests or touchs the trem, you will affect the pitch of your guitar. This stops that.

[manicoomioo]

why would you like to block your tremolo?

if you dont wanted it, why didnt you bought a guitar with no floyd rose?

[francesco149]

thats when you want to play songs in very low tunings without changing your prings setup

[JohanDVanderbal]

This is pretty pointless if you actually use your tremelo, Ive never ever had a problem with sustain on a tremelo, you just have to set it up properly, theres tons of setup vids on youtube for it. If you want a stop tailpiece buy a guitar that doesnt have a tremelo, theres more guitars without tremelos in more variations than there are with tremelos. Not only that, You'll have alot less stuff going on, stop tailpiece is way easier.

[deadratsalad]

Awesome tip and greatly appriciated,my Dean Splittail went on Ebay because of the floating Floyd,I installed a Tremol-No and still no sustain,after watching this video and following Bob's tip I must say that my Dean Splittail is NO LONGER for sale,thanks Bob/Youtube.

[Estill01]

ok im getting a synyster standard and i was wondering if there is anything to worry about with the tremalo

[ChadA23]

unbelievably hard to tune.

[Y2KExtacy]

Well, that and they also kill the tone of the guitar.

[erikmoua]

not really, it just takes time.

[gigosai]

It takes a bit. List

1. Unlock nut bolts, loosen strings

2. Block Tremelo so that's it's parallel to the guitar body.

3. Because it's now blocked (like a stop tremelo, I.E Strats, most PRS, Honestly mostly strats), You tune it (Stand E, Drop, Half step, whatever).

4. Tighten Nut Bolts, unblock, fine tune (on rose itself.

Enjoy!!!

Sometimes u might have to make intonations adjust. based on tremelo springs. Sharp? Loosen strings. Always use light gauge. Never over .45 Open to corrections.

[GuillermoSmyser]

I don't think Ibanez has true floyd rose. They use their own design of floating tremelo.

[bobcheese427]

edge III tremolo

[GuillermoSmyser]

Well, some have the edge III. Others, specifically the new S models, have ZR bridges that move on ball barrings. But yeah, it's Ibanez's own design what ever the case. Not floyd rose.

[JohanDVanderbal]

No, it isnt, its actually Kahler's design, sorry.

[ampwarmers]

pls help me i'm in urgent! i have a floyd rose. when i lock the nut. i use divebombs it never detunes. when i bend shit man detunes! when i tune again its okay to bend. when i divebomb detunes! help me!

[IbanezShredder179]

you my friend are screwd :)

i hav no idea wat to do

ive never heard of that problem before

[amangonecrazy]

wow really complicated problem!!! i dnt have the solution to tht

[GuillermoSmyser]

The only thing I can think of is that the strings are stretching below the nut (over the neck and body) and not in the headstock area. Make sure your strings are good and stretched out before you lock them in place.

[erikmoua]

i think your springs in the back, and make sure that your floyd is floating parallel with the guitar body :)

[ampwarmers]

thanks!

[gunshow86de]

That isn't a problem, thats kind of how they operate.  On any floating trem, when you bend a string, the tension on the strings increases and the tremolo begins to dive forward. So the string you are playing is in tune, but your other strings go out of tune.

[ampwarmers]

so how would i do the operation?:)

[matt420740]

hey flrider7, I have the answer to your problem. Check out the guitar project on my channel and you'll see a way to turn any tremolo into a true hardtail string through.

I done it with an RG of mine :)

[ghettosweep]

I tried this on a cheap floating floyd rose axe and even though you can no longer pull up for squealing, it improved the overall tone and resonance of the guitar. I only needed to tweak the height adjustment slightly.

[paddan91]

I don't understand why you want to block a tremolo when tremolo-less guitars are available.

[glaurung26]

because a low profile trem is closer to the body making it more comfortable. Also having the nut locked down give better tuning stability.

[XJacksonXb]

i was wondering if this blocks it from just pulling up or diving or both and if not is there a way that you can?

[danilokalinisan]

can i have your email add? i have a little problem regarding on my guitar.. Ibanez "s-series" and i don't know the measurement of the two metal supporting the Floyd Rose. sometimes the strings touches the fret when the F.R is level to the body, when its not level, its ok. but i am bothered that it is not level on the body and its too high.. i can send pictures if you cant understand.. thnx

[zd2]

Nicely done!

[sprungsong]

Wow...that guitar looks very familiar. Thanks again Bobby!

[FIM2k7]

very helpful, but i dont have the guts to do it, i might destroy my guitar instead...

[AcDc109]

me too

[ibanezguitarist54]

dude this is amazing, thank you for posting this up, it was soooooooooooooo helpful. thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!!!