JW's are Just like Harold Camping. Self fulfilling prophets?

[demoman1500]

i know this isnt on the topic of the video but that shark with the those shiny teeth are freaking me out o_O

[lycosa2001]

Think about this.. The Camping website was still taking donations on May 20th. Think about that carefully. A man that prophesied that the world end on the 21st was still taking people's money on the 20th.

For those people that bought into this shit, and yes you are still here on the 22nd, go out and volunteer at a homeless shelter, adopt a puppy from your local animal shelter. Stop trying to save someone spiritually, and save the damn planet. There's a cause for you!

[spacklepro]

@lycosa2001 10 out of ten people die. Saving the planet does nothing for my soul

[lycosa2001]

@spacklepro Well then, can't deny that right? I mean, we all have to die. So we might as well make it happen faster for our children and grandchildren. We have no responsibility right? Because we all have to die we can just ignore that the planet is falling down around us. We'll be dead so no reason to worry about those left behind and their families right? It's people like you who create this self fufilling prophecy while you ride the nightmare into the black hole.

[spacklepro]

@lycosa2001 Your mistaking the point. Of course we are to respect the creation given us but it seems to outlast most people so whats more important? The condition of your soul or the condition of Lake Michigan?

[applestolic]

dang the music is creepy in this documentary

[SLPproductions1]

AND THE BIGGEST DOUCHE IN THE WORLD AWARD GOES TO.... HAROLD CAMPING!!!!

JUDGEMENT DAY 2011 EPIC FAIL VIDEO CLICK HERE!!!!

[simplykaay]

I made a video on what you should pack for todays judgement day/ earth quake. its pretty funny :) watch it :D

[youkofoxyoukofox]

People have short memory...and some times....don't understand what they read!

All those years studing the bible (camping) I cannot believe he missed the book of Matthews...

Matthews 24:42

[SuperHorusra]

NOAHIDE LAWS = 666 SLAUGHTER = 666 (Rev 11:18) ATROCITY = 666 VACCINATION = 666 CAMPS OF DEATH = 666 HORRORS = 666 A PERDITION = 666 (2 Pet 3:7; Rev 17:8) THE NWO EU = 666 NY: A BABYLON = 666 RC CRUSADES = 666 US CRUSADE = 666 BABYLON US = 666 US OF AMERICA = 666 IT'S SURE = 666

[thedarknessofsatan]

as a witness, 0:49 - 0:51 is wrong. We teach jesus came into power in 1914.

and we teach no one knows except the father, which is true. so, ha

[sTRAydOg808]

Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

His first prediction in in 1994 was WRONG. DON'T LISTEN! HE IS A FALSE PROPHET!

[clintonlies]

Rutherford was the Big Crook in this story, I doubt he

EVER believed anything in the Bible.

Russel was just wrong

Rutherford was a thief and pedophile

[SergeCWazukie]

i heard that being a jehovas witness was the best excuse for not getting picked on when youre a 27 year old virgin

[esiosan]

Interesting how some people can be so certain about something they have never seen, and willingly ignore the surmounting evidence disproving it's existence. If there were ever gods, or one, it'd be at best indifferent. There is no supernatural end times, it's something bronze age loons made up.

[reslight]

Joseph Rutherford had the pyramid monument built a few years after Russell died. (I personally doubt that Russell would have ever agreed to such a monument.) However, for those who understand concerning that GP, that monument would represent a testimony to validity of the Bible.

[reslight]

Russell never presented 1918 as the date of Armageddon, since he believed Armageddon, the time of trouble, had begun in 1914, and held to that view until he died. However, Russell did not believe in the kind of Armageddon that the JWs preach.

[reslight]

Russell never changed 1914 to 1915. 1915 is one of the dates that had long been believed to the date that the time of trouble was to end, allowing for the trouble to last for one year, from Oct 1914 to 1915. This date, 1915 (as well 1920), however, presented a long time before 1914, and NEVER replaced 1914. Russell died in 1916 believing that the Gentile Times had ended in 1914, and the the time of trouble had begin in 1914.

[reslight]

Russell was not expecting that 1914 would be the date that the world was to end. He was expecting that the Gentile Times were end then, and the time of trouble was begin at that time. I believe the time of trouble did begin then, and that we are still in that time of trouble.

[reslight]

I could not verify that Russell ever referred to God's stone witness as "the second witness, next to the Bible." He certainly believed that the GP corroborated the Bible. However, I glad to see that the speaker acknowledges that Russell believed that the Bible is the first witness.

[reslight]

Russell actually wrote:

If one has any doubt as to a reference or if one's recollection should lapse in any degree, one should refresh his memory, and, in fact, should see that his every thought is in harmony with the Bible --not merely in accord with the SCRIPTURE STUDIES, but in accord with the Bible. (WT-9/1/1910,p299)

[reslight]

Russell actually wrote:

"SCRIPTURE STUDIES" NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE BIBLE

This is not, therefore, putting the SCRIPTURE STUDIES as a substitute for the Bible, because so far as substituting for the Bible, the STUDIES, on the contrary, continually refer to the Bible. (WT-9/1/1910,p299)

[reslight]

Russell actually stated: "The six volumes of SCRIPTURE STUDIES are not intended to supplant the Bible. There are various methods to be pursued in the study of the Bible and these aids to Bible study are in such form that they, of themselves, contain the important elements of the Bible as well as the comments or elucidations of those Bible statement." (WT-9/1/1910,p297)

[reslight]

Russell actually stated: "Nothing must be allowed to separate between us and the inspired Word if we would walk in the Light. Whatever 'helps' really point us to the Bible as the only authority, and assist us in rightly dividing it, are profitable to us as servants and guides: but that which attempts to be to us instead of God's Word is a dangerous foe." (WT-8/15/97,p240)

[reslight]

Charles Taze Russell was never a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses organization. He did not believe in such a sectarian and authoritarian organization, and preached against such organizations.

[reslight]

Although Russell did not have a high school diploma, his education obtained otherwise would approximate that of a college graduate. Aside from self-instruction by his own study of the works of others, he had been privately tutored. By 1879, he already had several years of theological training from others who had come before him.

[reslight]

In 1904, evidently after some discussion with some of his associates, came to realize that 1914 -- the end of the times of the Gentiles -- was to see, not the end, but the beginning of the time of trouble. Among other things Russell was expecting in 1914 was warfare. He died in 1916 believing that the time of trouble had begun in 1914 as he had been expecting.

[reslight]

Barbour taught that that the end of the age, often rendered into English as the "the end of the world", had began in 1874 and that this time period was the time of trouble -- Armageddon -- and that it was last for 40 years until 1914. Barbour was expecting the present age to fully end in 1914. Russell rejected this viewpoint in 1904, about ten years before 1914 had arrived.

[jdubb408]

thought jesus sais behold i cometh in the clouds and every eye will see him even those who pierced him and the dead in christ will rise 1st and those who are alive will be caught up?

[xXSandBlizzardXx]

In the Bible, it CLEARLY states that no one will know the TIME, HOUR or DAY of God or the son of God Return. Not even the son of God knows, so what makes this man think that he can determine when God and the son of God will return. BEWARE for in the bible it states that their will be false prophets misleading the nations and the multitudes.

[zoeyjusko]

When I see stuff like this it makes me so glad to be in the Orthodox Church. The Protestant denominations have just evolved into a complete mess. Nobody can agree on anything and they keep coming up with new interpretations.  It's embarrassing to Christians all over the world.

[mvgiles45]

I have this dvd. It's very good.

[newbirth35]

@SpacklePro - You stated Family Radio has over 30 stations. Actually, there are well over 40, plus the shortwave you mentioned.

[newbirth35]

@SpaklePro P.S. FR survived after 1994 and it will survive this prediction, too.

[Daethtofools]

On May 22nd, 2011

Harold Camping: Uh oh, I forgot to carry a 2. Let's move to 2013!

Me: Ugh, not again.

[ratdancefever3000]

I am christian and I believe there will one day be a rapture, but never on May 21st 2011, and never ever by the lying mouth of Harold Camping. Where is the money you took from that widow, Harold?

[bls2134]

@ratdancefever3000 money ?

[ratdancefever3000]

I love people who say dead predictions don't mean anything. They must have torn the Book of Deutoronomy right out of the New World Translation. I found the website regarding Rick Farren (or Warren), it's called "Six Screens of the Watchtower". Listen to the 4-hour recording he made (free download) of two Judicial Commitee meetings and see how they treat the Very Anointed of their own Organization. You will not believe the JW hypocrisies involved, unless you are already a sympathetic hypocrite.

[Daethtofools]

The 8 dislikes will be selling their homes and living in cars. I wonder if I could buy those houses...

[Daethtofools]

In the bible, Jesus said himself that NO ONE, not even the angels in heaven or Jesus himself, but only the Father(God) knows when the world ends. You can tell me about Noah all you want, you can take out any scripture in the bible, BUT I DON'T BUY IT!!! THERE HAVE BEEN TONS OF FALSE PROPHETS BEFORE THIS GUY! I bet Harold Camping has been tricked by the devil, like all other false prophets. Read the bible yourself, you only look at the old testement. Just you wait. On May 22nd, 2011, I'll be here

[ratdancefever3000]

I love the JW's. Even after they leave the Society they still defend lying in the name of God. Oh, I see no wrong. What does failed prophecy prove? Nothing. You just don't understand. An angel appears at the Watchtower, and sometimes he's drunk, and we tell him to stay off the sauce, but he won't listen to us. So if we make a mistake every now and then, have a little understanding. That drunk got the information a bit mixed up and delivered it wrong. Lies are okay.

[ratdancefever3000]

Camping has no truth. When the rapture becomes the gospel it has replaced the cross which is the true gospel according to paul. If anyone comes preaching a different gospel wrote paul let him be accursed. I also dislike when protestants add membership in their church to the death burial and resurrection, shame on them.

[EndOfTimesApocalypse]

@ratdancefever3000 Hello,

In newspaper with front page Obama victory, Illinois Lottery's draw was 666 on Page 2, Bible's Mark of the Beast, announcing Antichrist.

Also, people have remarked to me that Obama has numerous, severe head-scars. Bible states "Antichrist suffers mortal head-wound". Calculating the Antichrist's 42 months rule, starting from Obama's 11/4/2008 election, 42 months is May 2011.

Circulate to everyone everywhere it's good news!

[ratdancefever3000]

One can try to see if archivedotorg has made back ups of the fly on the wall website. Try their "wayback machine". One has to know the exact url, one cannot simply do a search according to my experience.

[ratdancefever3000]

Dont know if fly on the wall website still is up and running. Man's sick wife received harassing phone calls, when excommunicated he was not allowed to be heard by his peers which is jw policy. Shunned for speaking out against a jw office in the united nations building which was always considered home of the anti-christ. Bubble now popped. They are liars.

[ratdancefever3000]

What crime have the jehovahs witnesses committed? Hmmm. Someone here has not done any research. I commend your seemingly honest sincerity, however i have to now burst your bubble. Forget the elder's name did website called fly on the wall. Totally betrayed by jws. Sad story.

[ratdancefever3000]

"grog the fart, do you really believe in may 22nd?" "yes psss we of camping will be psss taken up psss where we will eat psss white castles psss and drink carbonated sodas psss forever psss" "sorry grog but phew there's nn way in hell"

[TheTheologianExpert]

Yes, and he (Rutherford) did all his lavish living in Florida and throughout the world off the backs of all his devotees, JUST LIKE HAROLD CAMPING. SAME THING.

[ratdancefever3000]

Jesus said they would try to deceive if possible the elect. Jesus connected lying with murder. Many have implied violence toward those who refuse to yield. And there will come a time when those who kill you will think they are serving god. He was a liar murderer from the beginning

[WitnessoftheTruth]

Since the seals (Dan 12:4) did not come off the Bible until the end of the Church Age (May 22, 0033-Mat 21,1988), it would have been impossible to know when the Lord would return with any accuracy. Once the seals were removed (Rev 8:1), we know the date to be May 21, 2011. This date is backed by over a dozen Biblical proofs. Meaning, the Bible itself guarantees this date, not any man. Rejecting Biblical Truth is an indication the person has a dead soul. Not that the Biblical info is incorrect.

[shawneeindian]

"No person, belonging to any religion, can foretell the future." Well actually .. If God speaks, and you listen, you can foretell the future. The whole Bible is full of Prophet foretelling the future.

But a false prophet is one who speak out side what the Lord says and it doesnt come to pass.

[bornjust2003]

No tuban323 according to the bible it proves he/they were false prophets

[Wade2018]

You can't have it both ways. You say that a Christian will put his faith in the Messiah. You say THEIR Faith, NO,not their faith but the Faith that God has gave them. We are powerless to do ANYTHING "ANYTHING" only God saves SO WE CANNOT BOOST. God is from everlasting to everlasting so YES he died for the ones chosen before the foundation of the world. Who is saving me and all that you say in vane to me, well I know who God is, the real question is DO YOU? I don't reject Christ CHRIST IS GOD.

[Wade2018]

There is a very real problem. What to do with that little sealed book in Daniel? It says that someday it will be opened. So then what? Reject the addition truth of the word as it will be revealed at the end time as it says it would in the bible? Like the rejection of Christ by Israel as The Christ came in the flesh as the Bible said he would come? And the JW? Sorry but they use a different Bible called the new world translation. JW rejects Christ as God also. Camping uses the King James Bible.

[nuxnutts]

@Wade2018 You reject Christ as the savior of the World, Your NOT a Christian,

Christian put their Faith in the Messiah to save them, Their was no Grave to conquer before time, DuH !!! FREAK !!!

Who is saving YOU ?? will your God save YOU?, Who is your God?

[pbodymathis]

Jesus tells His followers to watch and pray. No man can read the bible and understand what God has in store for him. Only God can reveal the truth through our relationship to Him through Christ. The people who sell and send their monies to people like Camping are listening to a man and not God. The truth is in the Bible so read it and pray that God revels to you the truth about these troubled times.

[fightingbuddyboy]

Does anyone else see the weird face on the veneer of old radio at 7:37? It is leaning right to left from the viewer's perspective. Certainly just an odd visual effect from the position of the dials and such, but curious nonetheless.

[CRoadwarrior]

Not only is Camping similar to the Watchtower, but he is very similar to Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormons. Smith was told by an "angel" that all the churches were wrong (sound familiar?) and that only he (Smith) had the truth. So Camping has cultic ties whether people see it or not.

[wweecw1]

@CRoadwarrior good point bro gowa things

[quitelywait]

MAY 21, 2011 - WORLDWIDE EARTHQUAKE MAY 21, 2011 - THE RAPTURE MAY 21, 2011 - JUDGMENT DAY OCT, 21, 2011 - END OF WORLD 7 Billion - World Population (most will perish) 2 Billion - Christians (so called) - (most perish) 2 Hundred Million - Saved (Raptured) Rev 9 Left Behind - All members of Churches & local Congregations who refused GODS command come out of her my people Rev 17-18 05/21/11 to 10/21/11 - Judgment day - 153 Days (5 Months) of Hell on Earth - No Hope

[Loonypics]

@quitelywait 2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Camping violates Gods clear command !

[quitelywait]

Visit Family Radio web site for local radio station Listings AM/FM shortwave, internet broadcasting 24 X 7, Now 50 languages covering the world pro- claiming GODS timeline for the history of the World from start to finish Call 1 800 543 1495 for ALL FREE material or Order on line. Suggested reading WE ARE ALMOST THERE I HOPE GOD WILL SAVE ME TIME HAS AN END THE END OF THE CHURCH AGE AND AFTER ADAM WHEN? READ THE BIBLE!

[edvisigoth]

@quitelywait Family Radio is a lie. Harold Camping is a FALSE PROPHET.

[edvisigoth]

@quitelywait Family Radio is a lie. Harold Camping is a FALSE PROPHET.

[bellehaup]

I've sold Avon and I've sold Watchtowers. Sunday mornings these days I'm doing some more constructive - surfing youtube. Charlie Russell was right - religion is a snare and a racket. I'm working for ufo disclosure by the government.

[Jacobrester]

@bellehaup Out of the frying pan into the fire

[tubian323]

3:55 "Millions now living will never really live" is more like it!

[tubian323]

I am an ex-JW and I agree with the message of this video, but the fact alone that Russel made predictions that never happened does not prove anything. No person, belonging to any religion, can foretell the future.

[spacklepro]

What it proves is that if you leave the true Gospel of Jesus Christ out of your life and add your own gospel and add dates and act in your own gospel you too will perish.

[Loonypics]

@spacklepro

Hi Bro', This is what happens when men cannot just acept the simplicity

that is in Christ ---why do they need to add to it !

NO NO NO !

Romans 10 - 9:10 sums it up in a nutshell - Thank -Jesus !

[Sp33dyish]

@spacklepro It proves all religions are money making, power hungry organisations. The books (bibles) are just another method of making them money. If your religion is the right one, why does the majority of the world say it isn't and theres is the right religion? All religions say all others are "fake", "false" or "untrue" and therefore I conclude they are right, and all religions are money making organisations set up to trick venerable people.

[spacklepro]

@Sp33dyish Jesus never wanted my money just love and honor.

[Firequacker]

@Sp33dyish Do not mistake religion with God, my friend. Very thin line.

[ector4sho34]

Te Jehovah's Witnesses have good intentions, anyone trying to regard them in a negative light, is like somebody trying to discourage an innocent child with good motives, it is wrong and senseless. If you do not share the same beliefs as the Jehovah's Witnesses at least respect them, they are worshipping God with spiritual devotion, what crime have they committed?

[bacadehuachisonora]

@tubian323 Just another sect!

[clintonlies]

@tubian323 it just proves these men were fakes and should not be followed

What else was Russel wrong about ?

Blood transfusions ? How does giving your blood to another hurt you ?

[THEBEREANZ]

BELIEVE and have FAITH in JESUS CHRIST, not a "RELIGION!"

[Sobrino928]

I rather be part of a Cult like the Witnesses than to worship a god who tortures his poor little creatures in a place called hell....

If God wants to torture, screw it... he can torture me.... I refuse to worship an Almighty coward who's willing to torture inferior beings...

[spacklepro]

He does not torture people Satan does because of the wages of Sin. How can a just God allow falsehoods into the Kingdom. How do you have a right to Gods presence if your heart has sinned against Him. You are a double tongued people that denies the Glory of Jesus Christ. I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ the Son of the living God. Your fear of God should lead you to your knees and repent.

[Sobrino928]

In the comment you "coincidentally" deleted, you said how sinners go to hell.... Certainly God is the only one with that authority. Don't be a hypocrite. You believe God tortures, I don't believe in honoring Cowardly deities like that. God is no better than Hitler if he's willing to torture..

Hitler at least killed his victims, God will eternally burn them... Hitler has more compassion than your Coward God.

[jtred31]

God don't torture, he just turns his back on you, Hell is a separation from God.. This Hellfire crap you hear about is all a pagan lie! Satan does what he wants with you because God will turn his back on Sinners...

[Sobrino928]

He turns his back on his own creation? WOW .. That's even better... Imagine if a parent turns his back on his child... that Child would be scarred for life! I guess for God to disown you is okay right? pffffffft

[spacklepro]

Thats not true friend. Jesus never leaves us or forsakes us. I am not going to impose my religious convictions on you but in all fairness you should seek out what is the truth about God and Satan. Just inspect the issues for yourself and if you come to the same conclusions at least you can say you gave the issue an honest look.

[spacklepro]

There are rules in everything including God. If you don't believe in the rules of the road lets see you cross Interstate 95 with a blindfold. I think you will see the rules a little clearer.

[Sobrino928]

Like i've mentioned already I'd rather die than worship a God who tortures...

Here's an analogy so you can comprehend. I'd rather die than worship Hitler and prosper in his dictatorship... You'd rather be a part of that dictatorship, I'd rather die than be part of it...

I don't agree with what God does nor should you... Torture is a cowards quality, and your god possess that quality..

[spacklepro]

Heres an analogy for you. Your firstborn kills your wife and steals from your safe your life savings. I think you will still love your son but will not be able to live with him because under the law he must be incarcerated for his crime. See son how it works. There are rules to follow in everything and you want God to honor and love you regardless of the law or rules you break or disregard. You are a young fool. Hell has a beautiful furnished room for you in the east wing. The devil will take u

[spacklepro]

Sobrino, how are things going? I wanted to tell you I have been praying for you and hope all is well. I have been thinking about what you said about Hitler. I am glad that Gods rules will keep us from that animal. Could you imagine living in heaven with people like that. Please consider Jesus and the price he paid for you. Thank you.

[Sobrino928]

I refuse to worship a God who tortures.

[spacklepro]

Try Jesus, He never hurt anyone?

[Sobrino928]

According to Christians, he's going to burn people for eternity. So Yes, pretty soon, or already, he's hurting people.

[lilpinkchick95]

God is not burning people, Satan is.

[kitsunebaby]

@lilpinkchick95 How is Satan burning people?

[yurity]

@spacklepro But is he not the same god ?

[jmallton]

The churches teach eternal torture ......and they are wrong......it is errant bible interpretation

[lilpinkchick95]

Nope. Not eternal. Hell will be destroyed at the end of the age and all who have gone through the torture will become nothing.

[mvgiles45]

@jmallton Greetings!

So you are saying that the lost will not have eternal punishment?

[jmallton]

@mvgiles45 Nobody will receive eternal torture.....the churches have errantly taught this for centuries....if you are saved and you die you go to be with Jesus.....if you are not saved and you die, you simply cease to exist

[DivineRevelator]

@Sobrino928 It is NOT God who tortures my friend. That is a deception, and it's contrary to God's Nature. Please read Ezekie 28:18 which discusses what happen and what will happen to Satan. The passage speaks of God taking the fury (or fire) out of Satan and using it reduce him to ashes. This reveals that God has used Satan's own internal essence to create The Lake of Fire, which is where he is going along with all those who decide to continue following him and reject Christ.

[THEBEREANZ]

Sobrino928:

If you are NOT a FALSE PROPHET (or affiliated) you need not worry son!...REV20:10

ACTUALLY READ IT!!! =+)

[Sobrino928]

.... Son, Is your God going to burn your "unrighteous" family members and friends?

[THEBEREANZ]

no where in Rev20:10 does it say "unrighteous"

NOT ONE IS RIGHTEOUS! Romans 3:10

stick'round lil' brother you might learn somthin!

[Sobrino928]

So those that don't believe in YOUR religion are going to burn forever? Answer the question, son.

[spacklepro]

This is not my religion. This is Jesus words. He is the only way to God. If you believe anything else then the words of Christ you will not see God. Sorry. Truth by definition is exclusive.

[Jacobrester]

Do you really believe all the billions of Muslims, Hindu's, Bhuddists, etc.......are going to suffer in hell for eternity because they were not born in the USA or Western Europe ?

The only reason you are a christian is because your parents indoctrinated you with it, just as a muslims parents indoctrinate their kids.

Is your God of mercy going to make them pay forever in hell because they were born in the middle east, asia or africa ?

[lilpinkchick95]

To become a Christian is a choice. There are missionaries all over the place teaching people about God.

To be honest, I believe that people who never hear about who Jesus is are put back on the Earth for one last chance. Like, reincarnation kind of. But that's not in the Bible. That's just something I hope is true.

[Jacobrester]

@lilpinkchick95 Nobody is burning in hell sister.....hell is the grave....churches have errantly taught the concept of hell for centuries...if you die and you are not saved....you simply cease to exist......merciful God would not condemn anyone to suffer forever

[Sobrino928]

Brother, Bereanz... It seems you've blocked your comment section? I was going to leave you a nice greeting but seems i can't :-(

[THEBEREANZ]

THE word "MINDFUCKED" isn't very nice. sorry I had to block you! = (

Here is wisdom .........  GALATIANS 6:3

[Daethtofools]

@Sobrino928 I have a question, are you an Atheist? God only puts sinners in hell. There is purgatory too, for only sinners that have sinned very little. Don't make fun of God. Please.

[jtred31]

You cant blame God for the wrong Choices YOU make in like my friend!! You Chose your path... God has told us how to live, If you don't agree with what our creator says, then I'm sure he wont want you around him... Sad "Jehovah Witnesses! is a false religion"

[kitsunebaby]

@Sobrino928 How are they a cult?