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  • kaas

  • kaas

  • Anyhow, AES is the best symmetric encryption these days.

  • There's a related-key attack on aes-192 and aes-256. Look up AES security on wikipedia. I'm not saying it's broken, just that it's had an attack published whereas AES-128 hasn't.

  • A thumb drive doesn't automatically backup your files

  • Neither does a piece of paper.

  • hows about a thumb drive

  • 192-bit AES is less secure than 128-bit AES, due to vulnerabilities in the AES key scheduling. 128-bit symmetric keys are plenty secure these days.

  • What vulnerability for 192-bit AES is that?

  • This is exactly the same as the public/private key authentication that SSH uses, except they've come up with a novel way of securing the private key. Secure for sure, but somewhat inconvenient and slow to use. I've found storing your private key on a usb key to be more than acceptable.

  • If nothing else, the nerd in me positively loves this. :)

  • Seriously, this gives me total nerd-chills. ;P

  • hehe me 2

  • I'd recommend this to the UK government for all their databases, but no doubt they'd just leave it on a train somewhere...

  • and this is practical how?

  • A paper key? What happens if you loose it? Soak it in water? Rip it? Eat it?

    And since when are 8 characters 46 bits? 8*8=46?

    And this is not twice as secure as banks just because the key size is twice the size...

  • When you enter alphanumeric passwords you don't use all 256 characters; most people use a-z and have to be nagged to use A-Z and 0-9.

    If you use passwords only containing a-z you're only adding about 5 bits of entropy per password letter.

  • Ahh, thanks =D

  • Bits of entropy. Big difference.

  • You don't get 8 bits in a character. The range of characters you can make on your keyboard is less than 128 characters (7 bits) since you can't type high-ascii (character map aside) or even the control codes like the null byte. So say 6.5 bits. 6.5*8=52

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  • I will glue my paper key to the back of a painting, classic

  • passwords are nothing compared to this security level.

  • Very nice!

  • 2 times more secure then banks! impresive :)

  • @sjoerdfit 4K aren't twice as secure as 2K keys, they are 2 to the power of 2K more secure, which is a very big number!

  • I think he was talking about less security from brute force, and more of thieves and the like.

  • @thebramp Not 4k are even less then two times secure! As RSA is 1024bits is equivalent to 80-bits of security, and 15360-Bit RSA is equivalent to 256-bits of security.

    Having a big modulus ( i.e. 4096-bits) does *not* mean that this that this is real security bits. The underlying problem is Factorization, i.e. the modulus n is a product of two primes p and q. Finding the factorization n, i.e. finding p and q for n, will only take 2^80 calculations for a 1024-bits, hence the 80bits.

  • Nice way to use long keys for encryption, without the problems of remembering a long password.

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