AEC 220 Engine Start in Freezing Weather

[kappucinokid]

Brings back memories of trying to coax elderly hireboats into life.

[heatherandpaul2]

What is this engine used for? To drive or to generate power? What type is it? V8? V12?

[Mitsugejl]

@heatherandpaul2 Inline 6 :D

[chadro85]

@Mitsugejl is it on its side?

[Mitsugejl]

@chadro85 Yes, this type of engine is often reffered to as a "pancake engine" or more technical, a underfloor vertical engine. Saves a ton of space in especially buses.

Invented/pioneered by former german truck/bus manufacturer Büssing in1936 and is used mostly in buses and so forth. MAN eventually cooperated with Büssing in 1969 and bought it i 1971. The lion badge in front of a MAN truck is inherited from Büssing to honor the craftmanship and innovations behind Bussing.

[chadro85]

@Mitsugejl cool

[Mitsugejl]

@chadro85 Horizontal of course, not vertical. Sorry :) Merry X-mas by the way...

[MegaZsolti]

Did you notice the mans arm bounces with the engine? XD

[billalbion]

IT was only on tickover throttle, should be full then ease right back when it starts.

[jmw0284]

This engine looks like the ones put into the Canadian built Brill motor buses in the late 50's. Used the AEC diesel.

[battlestarone]

new heater plugs needed,these are leyland bus engines,old leyland buses start no bother in the cold.

[pcgenius9]

@battlestarone These engines were designed in the 1930s, way before heater plugs. These engines start purely on compression.

[GingerPhilG]

@pcgenius9 could you not heat the intake air somehow (olden days would have been a burning rag held near intake) to ease things along a touch? 

[Skoda130]

@pcgenius9 Looks like the engines used in the Dutch streamlined DE1 and DE2 DMU's, built in the early 50's. :-)

[TrainCamera]

easy start!! that was a good one!

[steamfandan]

easy start works wonders for railway diesel locos

[marklandynut]

1930's design engine means its an indIrect injection engine. Post war engines are usually direct injection. The updated vertical direct injection version of this engine (the AV690) powered the Routemaster bus amongst other things. The direct injection engine is more efficient and easier to start (near instant starting in freezing weather), but its also noiser and slightly less powerful than this indirect version. In the '30s indirect injection was used as direct injection had not been perfected.

[TheMillFairfield]

AEC's are generally a better starting engine than a Leyland from cold.

[TheRailwayGuy96]

Hearts still beating!

[JohnnyTheWolfLupino]

Hey, i'm exactly like this on cold mornings too! That's one lump of an engine.

[craigybus1]

Get some of the aussie easy start called 'Start Yer B*****d'

[formidable38]

Dam things were crap when they were new!

[lblackman69523]

Actually pcgenius - the poster is correct. The slight whine in the background is the wilson box and these boxes have the characteristic for making a sweet whine on tickover! Great Video by the way!

[Mob1006]

I hear the whine of a Semi Auto G/Box in the background

[pcgenius9]

More likely to be the fan drive from the other engine thats running. The gearbox wouldn't be engaged at this stage.

[Kitfugl]

Long starts are normal for some Leyland engines.

[pcgenius9]

This is an AEC engine, but yes older engines did take longer to start. Its always OK in the warm, but the cold and you struggle.

[Kitfugl]

Oh yes, i oversaw the AEC, it sounds Leylandish.

[infliction9999]

@pcgenius9 we use a blow torch on the air intake works a treat they start almost instant in -6 and -12 over this winter have aa look at one of the videos we have of starting up the engine for the first time in 15 years