@AndrewChan84 'm pretty sure the lawyer trend is just that of supply and demand i.e one that offers good money for low effort :)))) and as for restrictions, well i don't know this innovation center is relatively new and cooperates with a lot of sponsors, any way i'm not telling you to drop anything and join it but as i say if you get a problem with funding due to the US government cuts or els what you have a place to go.
"Why is it wrong to be rich and independent, as long as your wealth cannot be used to control other people (whose rights are protected), and keep what your earn and pay some tax. Why must we "pool" our wealth?"
I was comparing American system to socialist and communist systems.
What I meant to say was, although they said very different things about their ideologies, their way of doing things are almost the same.Except Russia did not join the Axis because they want to mind only their own land
@AndrewChan84 The American system has all those equality as well, and you only pay a small amount of tax. The people are the "boss" and they tell their Congress what laws they want as long as the laws do not take away other peoples rights. Nobody can force anybody to do things they do not want to do.
American system is not capitalist. It believes in free market, but cannot violate the rights of others.
@AndrewChan84 lol you americans crack me up, you know nothing about an ideology or how it was operating exept for the bias propaganda crap you learn from censored sources and yet that does not stop you from judging it....... again read more books before you say some shit like that, because you would just get your face broken for saying something like that to my face
American History is more than 200 years old, and there is of course a non "censored" version of it. You think everything is learned through the TV? There are books here, and we do not live on trees.
I think you are the ignorant one here about American History. You seem to confuse everything for a propaganda.
@AndrewChan84 well any way, either way the USA is fucked if not through quantitative easing then through Ron Paul and cheap migrant labor which he will be to blame for, but as for Russia we are currently looking and pushing for an alternative reserves currency + we have the land and resources, and the gold reserves so don't worry about us.
@pac4show The thing here is you generalize on what Americans are, without understanding the deeper principles involved and what caused the problem. Propaganda are shallow things because they cause you to see the bad and crude side of the country, making you think they are all the same.
By generalizing, you have put a mental block from allowing you to study deeper into the situation.
It is like me saying "Russian are Communist and drunk Vodka drinkers, therefore Russian culture is also F-up"
@pac4show 230 years. Yes America is only that old, because it severed itself from the British Empire in 1778. Western and English history is way longer than that.
@pac4show You did not like what I said about the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany? Maybe you are a little bit too self-righteous? (I know the USSR and USA are allies in WW2, but I'm talking about principles here)
If you look closely, those similarities are facts. Did I say anything wrong there? Answer this! I'm not talking about who invaded who first. I'm talking about the similarity in the way of doing things. The Fascist also claimed that they are right. Young people forced to fight!
@pac4show Почему в бессильном гневе? Действительно ли это - открытое и положительное обсуждение, чтобы изучить вещи о мире?
Of course they are differences between Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. But the 5 similarities I listed, are they not the same? Fascist also hate "capitalist pigs", and they perceive America to be like that. Yes, Germany invaded Russia, and Russia have help greatly the allies to defeat the Fascist. But I am looking deeper here also.
@AndrewChan84 lol you are an idiot thats all i can say read a history book about the Nazi Germany they are pro market you bafoon and always were they are elitist just as libertarians they believe in the survival of the fittest as libertarian the only social thing about them is the Keynesian economic principals which (which came to be as a response tocomunis) they adopted but so has America in that period, so stop embarrassing yourself and disrespecting those who fought them
@pac4show I do not meant to be disrespectful to those who fought the Nazi, but I want to be 100% objective. You only looked that the one social aspects that is not the same as Russia. How about the first 4 I listed (forget religion)?
Take away one similarity - If Hitler did not have military officers shooting conscripts (forced), his Operation Barbarossa might not even begin.
Stalin also killed many of Russians. So did Hitler. If only those two did not exist?
@AndrewChan84 ok i guess i will have to spell it out for you, but you know i did not apply to be political science teacher. First of all Communism believes in absolute equality of all human beings and not a particular race or social class but to achieve that one must remove the hierarchical structure which cosed a civil war unlike in Germany where they came to power democratically with the help of the ruling elite (who thought they could use them for their advantage).
@pac4show In America everyone is also equal under the Bill of Rights, even Congress, or the Executive branch cannot take away those rights under the Constitution. The difference with communism is, you get to keep what you work for. The more work you produce, the more the fruit of your labor. The more tax you pay.
Get rid of social hierarchy? How? Stalin can dictate to people. What he and his ministers decides behind your back you do not know.
@AndrewChan84 civil war is a very complicated affair and its results also leave a lot of thing in question, see some may say it were the reds(communists) who committed crimes and other might say it were the whites(imperials) after the civil war Lenin died and his successors like Trotzkiy pissed of with the fact that Europe was helping the Empire during the civil war wanted to spread communism further,Stalin siezed power and said that we want comunism in one nation to achivestabilt
@pac4show Although the professed ideology are very different between Nazi and Soviets, in the end its practical manifestation and crimes against its own people were very similar. Where many of these things would be illegal under the American constitution. All is due to the fact that they want to impose their will on other people.
Why must one make everything belong to the State to achieve equality? You can still achieve equality with private ownership and equal rights.
@AndrewChan84 while Hitler prepared for war Stalin was trying to actually produce that what was promised to the people creating mass construction projects and trying to lift the agricultural sector (with negative effects) to support every one without the help anyone who turned away from Russia after Communists won the war. the reasons that Stalin signed a pact with Hitler is again because every one turned away from Russia portraing communism as evil (had social revolts at home too
@AndrewChan84 while Hitler prepared for war Stalin was trying to actually produce that what was promised to the people creating mass construction projects and trying to lift the agricultural sector (with negative effects) to support every one without the help anyone who turned away from Russia after Communists won the war. the reasons that Stalin signed a pact with Hitler is again because every one turned away from Russia portraing communism as evil (had social revolts at home aswell) .
@AndrewChan84 as i said they turned away because they were scared of communism and had their own revolts under the red flag during and after October revolution like in England, Germany and other European countries so Russia was in Isolation and had to rely on itself. THE PEOPLE ARE THE GOVERNMENT AND THEY GET MORE AS THEY WORK MORE, and now unlike before they had free full education for every one, free health-care for every one, and were assured that they will never be out of work
@AndrewChan84 and he started to kill and jail those in the party who might oppose him, you can say that this has stopped an even furtherer bloodshed, also those who brought communism to Russia were were them selves not Russian but of a Jewish origin so some might argue that they were doing it for their benefit or that of Kizer Wilhelm, now Stalin cleared them out and achieved stability though at a price of their lives.
@AndrewChan84 Hitler on the other hand used the Reichstags fire decree (a democratic tool) to get rid of the competition by blaming Comunists for terrorism (sounds familiar :) and baned the parties imprisoned them and set up a dictatorship, with the same elite on top but only one political party also adopting Keynesian economics and creating propaganda that blamed the Jews for everything and prasing the German VOLK
@pac4show Even though Hitler was blaming Communist for many things, his National Socialist ideology also has many similarities with communism. That 4 which I have mentioned. In the end, the practical side is the one that affects people regardless of what the professed ideology is right?
Why is it wrong to be rich and independent, as long as your wealth cannot be used to control other people (whose rights are protected), and keep what your earn and pay some tax. Why must we "pool" our wealth?
@AndrewChan84 do you think the rich would ever commit to social reform if it was not for communism, there would not be welfare or public schools if there was no revolution in Russia, there would still be surf-tum as in India, a rich guy would never give a cent away if he does not have to and that is why democrats and the elite were so afraid of it, they give you an imaginary dream of democracy where only supper rich get supper richer and all the rest are surfs as theyswitchpupets
@pac4show If you read what i said correctly, the American system taxes the rich and poor equally (%), as according to the Constitution. So the rich does pay more tax if it is the same %. This means they also contribute more to public infrastructure. They are not free to "steal" from other people. They also create jobs for people.
Why do you keep confusing between "unlimited democracy" which is an anarchy, with the American system. This type of confusion is very common even today.
@pac4show Inflation high, means central bank (the government) is robbing everyone (poor, middle, and rich). It is our duty to call our congressman to tell them to follow the Constitution, or else we will vote them out, and they have no jobs.
The wages will be governed by the market, and creative business will create new jobs. That is why science is good in America, because it allows creativity. If price of food is high, more people will do food business to bring down price.
@AndrewChan84 inflation rises when people have more money to spend i.e. when taxes are low, businesses see that people have more money and raise the prises, so what happens if your congress man is on the take with say WALMAKT
@pac4show Inflation is purely because of Количественное смягчение (quantitative easing). Business cannot simple raise price, or else their business will NOT survive.
If today, everybody sells $2 for an apple, which is according to market price. And then, I sell it at $5, do you think my business will survive one day. Who will but from me.
Similarly, when a business is profitable, due to high price of products, more people will do it to bring down the price!
@AndrewChan84 yes but with higher inflation the startup costs or barriers to entry also rise and thing is that it is not a problem for those who already have capital, there fore corruption creates monopolies
@pac4show That is, when every citizen is responsible for their rights, making sure the government doesn't make unfair laws that benefit only a certain company by creating a monopoly. It is against the constitution to use laws to create monopolies by benefiting an existing company with unfair privileges.
@pac4show walmart's advantage is low price because it gets everything in large quantities. But small companies and provide better service and attention, if they try hard enough also.
I own a beverage business with little capital, and I can go against bigger and older companies, because I give good products and lower price (sacrifice a little bit of profit) in order to attract customers.
@pac4show also if you are doing scientific research on things that can benefit people like, curing cancer, etc. They government will give you grants (money) if you can prove to them you research will be useful. Otherwise you have to find your own money.
The only problem is, big companies like AIG, Goldman Sachs, etc. have government connection, and the use the central bank to "bury its debt" by quantitative easing.
@pac4show libertarian is NOT liberal. Sounds the same, but different meaning. The one you refer to is Liberal (the ones who want to control everything, and make their wallets thick).
Libertarian means fighting for the rights of people as the Boss, and the government are the ones who work for them, and the government cannot be too big. If the gov. is too big, that the elitist will use it to control people and put money into their own wallets.
@AndrewChan84 it is the liberterian dream, and it is the reason why they hate comunism so much...........but what they will give in return is a freedom to starve
@pac4show do you know how much the American goverment is taxing us right now? 10% (below 8500 a year) to 33% (more than 330,000 a year), Federal Income tax.
That plus, sales tax 6% -10%, capital gains tax, gift tax, etc.
Total can reach as high as 50% for some people.
The elites get away with tax because they know how. This sort of tax robs from the poor and middle class, and gives to the rich.
Under American system less tax is better. It is the opposite.
@AndrewChan84 im telling you these people don't do it on a small scale they only do it big and in all the wrong places. Capitalism is made on making a profit and whats the best way to make a profit then to privatize that which is free
@pac4show if a person starts a big business if he/she has alot of money, 1) many jobs will be created 2)people working in those jobs will learn the tricks of the trade 3) Small business also have its own advantage when going against big companies, because small companies have less bureaucracy. Companies like Facebook start very small. Small companies can provide more attention to customers. The bigger the company the more tax is paid, that goes to public services. Fair.
@AndrewChan84 ok imagine you and every one els has more money because of a tax cut, so you are a business and you know that every one got a tax cut right what do you do to maximise profit?
@pac4show tax cannot be cut too much. We are not tribal people, we believe in public service. We need to pay tax for army, police, hospital, roads, schools, etc. But everyone in the private sector is allowed to compete with government to provide better service OR lower price, like private hospitals.
The only way I can maximize profit without corrupting the law, is to try to provide the best product/service as possible at the best price. That is all.
@AndrewChan84 any tax-brake in the US primarily benefits the big business and the elite as they have already the assets to dominate the market and with a tax brake they have even more. so in the end what a tax brake or a public cut does is it gives nothing to the poor because inflation rises but makes the rich a bit richer. and as for Liberterianism there moto is minimum government and maximum freedom
@pac4show In the USA, a tax increase benefits the rich, because they have ways to evade tax. The high tax will fall on the middle class.
A tax cut will benefit the poor and middle class, because they pay the most income tax (the rich have ways to evade it). This is due to the funny IRS tax code which consists of thousands of pages. It is also against he constitution.
A flat national sales tax of 10-15% will benefit everyone, and tax everyone fairly (now fighting for).
@AndrewChan84 yes but Russia has nationalized industry which works as a safety net and the USA does not, so if they cut the taxes cut the spending and put on a flat tax prices will rise, unemployment will rise and poverty will increase absolutely not effecting the rich but highly damaging the poor
@pac4show sixteenth amendment is the unfair tax law that benefits the rich. It is against the constitution itself. It is put there by the Elites. You cannot tax income according to the constitution. But tax only sales.
That is why many conservative people in America want a flat-rate 10-20% national sales tax. For rich and poor.
That means when you buy something, you pay 10-20% its value in tax. Keep all you income.
@AndrewChan84 Its basic fucking economics and we have been over this like what 20 times peoplemoney goes up prices go up
Definition of 'Inflation' The rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, and, subsequently, purchasing power is falling. Central banks attempt to stop severe inflation, along with severe deflation, in an attempt to keep the excessive growth of prices to a minimum.
@pac4show You have no idea how inflation works. Do you know that 1 ounce of gold today can buy a good formal suit, as it did in 1917? The price of oil according to gold has not risen at all since 1970.
If money is based on gold, meaning 1 dollar = 1 silver dollar.Then inflation will be zero. Because your central banks keep printing money, the price of goods increase because the paper money in circulation is getting more.
@pac4show Даже если я, это не вносит свой вклад в значение этого обсуждения. Но, да.
Я - человек, который любит помогать, столько, сколько может люди в этом мире, если возможно. Я не желаю сделать врагов с любым, но жить моей жизнью согласно тому, как я хочу.
Красота Америки, даже учится, вещи как снежинка (походите бесполезный) в учреждении исследования, также возможно. Другие страны не будут давать спонсору для таких вещей, потому что только сосредотачиваются на вооруженных силах:)
@AndrewChan84 Skolkovo Innovation Center maybe gives similar opportunities.... see in Soviet Union we had a lot of engineers but now every one wants to be a layer or an economist, i would have tried but i don't have the brain for it , i cloud not even get good grade on a mechanics apprenticeship
@pac4show Thank you for your remarks. I'm sure that Russia has its fair share of brilliant scientist and engineers, whose intellectual achievement far exceeds mine. In today's society, creativity comes from doing what a person likes to do, to help as much people as possible, compared to the old days of forcing people to do things.
@AndrewChan84 and as for your tax cuts they will not buy you a doctors appointment if there is no public service because of such thing as INFLATION do you want me to spell inflation out for you aswell>?
@pac4show tax cut means nothing if you do not see what the level of tax is now. The right amount of tax is about 10-15% of flat sales tax, that's all. It should be enough for all government spending and public service, if the government is responsible in spending that money. It is the duty of The People (We The Boss) (trough Congress) to tell the government how to spend that money, not them.
Inflation is due to Количественное смягчение (also illegal). Do not confuse between the two.
@pac4show cont.--- Communism on the other hand, takes away certain rights. Right to choose type of work (at certain times), right to own business, right to create certain types of jobs, right not to be forced to do things by anyone (including the state), right to make laws trough Congress representative (laws must follow Bill of Rights)/ Right to be Represented.
@pac4show but one very big difference between Nazi and Soviets is that the Nazi are the ones who commit the aggression, simply taking other people's land just because they think there are Jews there.
But if I take away its 4 similarities with the Soviet, would the Nazi still be able to do that?
@AndrewChan84 just remember my prediction......... try the 1991 to 2012 on inflation in russia data its in can be scrolled in the top right corner of the chart............... the first 4 to 5 years after communism were free market 'liberal' years
@AndrewChan84 and try some other figures like say Govenment Debt hahahahahah ahhhhhhhh lol make some comparisons to usa ;) and by the way the differences between Russia and the USA is and always has been that you have more rights but we have more freedoms, and by the way if your an engineer or a scientist as it looks from you profile you are more then welcome to come to Russia, i promise you, you will like it here--seems like we have more layers and fucking economist nowadays
@pac4show US debt is because of too much количественное ослабление. People who are chairman of the Fed are also chairman of the IMF. These people are part of the Bilderberg group. They are the one's who were behind and funding of WW1 and WW2. In other words, they are our true enemy. But we cannot blame only them, but also our own ignorance on these issues.
The reason why I'm against conscription (forced) is because it allows politicians to do what they like to do. For any reason I'm against it.
@AndrewChan84 i advise you to have a read of the shock doctrine, you will understand that gov control is not such a bad thing and as for taxes and privatization, you wount find one working class and i mean working class Russian who would want further privatization of the Russian industry, true there are those who follow your views but these are people who are already well of and are just persisting more tax reductions as they can afford holidays on the bahamas.
@pac4show You think Americans do not believe in government and taxation? You think we do not believe in laws?
America is not a complete democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic ruled by The People. The Legislative branch represents it's people but cannot infringe on the Rights of others. It is not anarchy. Not complete privatization.
In most countries there is the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branch. All has its limits. Not like a simple Hollywood movie about "capitalism".
@AndrewChan84 the thing is even though they criticize our government they dont understand that Putin is not as fucked up as some voodo gooroos like your favourite LIbritarians or those fucks that do the oposite driving the country into debt in the USA, true there is corruption but the debt is payed and inflation is kept stable all that is needed is some stable investments off the oil surplus unfortunately it all burned out in American banks or maby just ''disappeared'' in 2008
@pac4show it is a matter of time before any country with quantitative easing will do this, especially if they have the World Reserve Currency. America is like a human body that carries the HIV virus because it has the world reserve currency.
The reason why America is so corrupted is because it has been heavily polluted by the international bankers. Even Malaysia has better inflation rate than US. This is because of the "bubble crisis".
@pac4show BTW, my "favorite Libertarians" are not like the "liberals" which I think you meant to say. You should do more research on Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.
For your information, all also presidential candidates get their money from corporate sponsoredhip. Ron P is the poorest, until his money came in from The People.He has the highest military personnel donations of all candidates(wants to bring back troops).
@AndrewChan84 and without being all conspiratorial, just try to use your logic for a second yes think back to Bush a Texan, who replaced him??? a black guy who won a ''''piss prize''' and who promised to take care of the poor and needy but ended up still helping the rich and greedy............. so logically who would be next in line ?????
@pac4show You are absolutely right about Bush and Obama. And the elite will try their best to choose their own kind for the next Presidency. And they will hate those who will try to thwart their plans and try sabotage his/her campaign.
But to allow that to cause you to pass judgement on a man who may or may not win, is judging a cover by its book. Don't let your mental block prevent you from doing adequate research before saying something.
@AndrewChan84 ммммдаааа с американцам что с подростком разговаривать. Полный Пипец!:))))) go Разбейся головой об стену....:))) lol you know i realy don't give a flying fuck who will be your next president but i gues you will never understand the big picture of things and that picture is that who ever it is he will still be a liberal but if you read enough of the history of the world maybe you will understand who is to blame for corruption and most of the evil in the world
@pac4show That is because of the removal of price control. And also because Viktor Gerashchenko gave too much loan to state enterprises. Somebody must be eating the "rain of money". Now inflation in Russia has stabilized to the same rate as most countries.
количественное ослабление is always a liberal idea, even in America. American conservatives are against such thing.
Does the Russian Federation Constitution forbids such thing?
Я каждому из своих друзей задавал два одних и тех же вопроса после их демобилизации: «Нужно ли, по-твоему, служить в армии?» и «Пошёл бы ты в армию ещё раз?». На 1-й вопрос все поголовно кричали: «Обязательно!!!11», а на второй вопрос так же поголовно отвечали: «Нет!». Один, правда, говорил, что остался бы по контракту, но теперь, будучи дома, сам не пошёл бы. (Россия. Московская область. Пятеро опрошенных)
ja kstati toje tak dumal kogda batya menya v desant otpravit hotel, tam v mashine sam chut ne obassalsya :))))) no teper jeleyu chto kak v etom filme popal slujit v RVSN :))) hotya ne jaleyu gorjus konechno chto v raketnih slujil, no na halavu s parashuta poprigat da kerpich nauchitza razbivat bilobi kruto.... tak chto idite hlopzi kuda poshlut mujiki vsetaki ili gde :))))
@AndrewChan84 just as in Russia) so unless you go and try to change it yourself you are not better then those who you accuse. I am not telling anyone that its easy or a walk in the park but you will definitely appreciate it when its over, hell i had a hard time but now i regret that i dint take a step forward when they were recruiting for a contract. and when it comes to america i say again less involvement in foreign affairs buddy the world is sick of you as it is
@AndrewChan84 my point of view is that you america should shut the hell up, get out of foreign affairs and sort your selves out. hi from Russia.... i served 12 months in the Russian army and was not a slave, became more of a man and feel better and more confident about my self. assholes are everywhere be it in the army, work, school or university. main thing is to be yourselves. And unless you go there and do something to change it (by the way i'm well aware hazing (dedovshina) in USA exist
@AndrewChan84 and by the way hazing (dedovshina) in Russia exist because they have nothing to do, yet in Usa it exists never the less that it is constantly at war and operates on a contract basis, so personally for you america i don't advise to follow my advise because you might actually get killed in an unethical war which no one needs, but at-least you'l make some money ehhh, capital, green green stuff so fetch i know you guys cant live without it lol :))
@pac4show This is not USA vs Russia. I'm not talking about hazing(dedovshina). This about the morals and ethics of conscription.
A person's life and time belongs to himself. If you learn something from military service, then good for you. But nobody should be forced because God gives everybody free will.
A citizens duty is to not kill, not steal, and not murder. He does not owe his life and "service" to the country. This is my principles.
@gagayps Армия добровольца более эффективна чем принудительные солдаты. Только люди, которые хотят остаться полным рабочим днем, должны пойти. Или иначе они будут тратить впустую налоговые деньги.
Принудительная военная служба - трата денег и не эффективная. 21-ое столетие доказало это.
@AndrewChan84 it has proven absolutely nothing be it in the moral or financial sense, i can see you are a liberal so i'll be easy on you cos you guys are confused as it is, conscription is cheaper then a contract because the market does not set the prices and about efficiency well you can brain wash a marine as much as you want his primary function would be a search of profit and personal well being, and if you add natural right and ability to sue for any thing = shit moral
@AndrewChan84 look at America and what financial situation the wars brought on it, and still you hear soldiers disrespecting the dead by pissing on them, soldiers raping civilians and fellow soldiers, deaths amongst a civilian population and so on, the thing about you liberals is that you think you are progressive yet you hang to ideas which are long outdated, example to that is the mercenary armies which were used during the renaissance and which ended upbeingabsolut unreliable
@AndrewChan84 as i said, take your demagoguery back home friend, for us you are just babies, we have long standing traditions which stood the test of time at being both moral and efficient and as for the liberal ideas, well we had them in the 90s and no thank you ended up shutting power of in half the country couse market said it was inefficient, i dare not to count how many lives liberalism has taken already but god damn it i sure see the need to send it back to enlightenment
@pac4show Up to you, but I'm sure many in your country are against conscription. Your persecution against them will be remembered.
America is in deep financial shit because it is not following it's own Constitution, which forbids printing money without gold. Your country is also doing the same.
In America, people with principles are also very hard to find these days, and the government is corrupt, just like your Putin.
Almost everyone in America is corrupt except Ron Paul.
@AndrewChan84 don't be to fast to judge a man by his cover, I'm sure Ron Paul is just another word-smith, politics are nothing if you don't try to change your self first, being a ''humanitarian'' and giving people advise is the same as shouting down a well, main thing to be yourself and if you truly care about something than change it from the inside with own hard work and suffering not by shouting at a brick wall, as i said education is key education through prior experiences
@pac4show Is it you or me who has not done enough research on this man Ron Paul? If a politician can say the same thing for 20 years, he has qualified for my trust. The internet has unlimited information that the media cannot hide. Go and see how our corrupt politicians are so scared of him that the always try to pretend he doesn't exist:)
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Nobody has the right to force people to do things they don't want to do.There are better ways to cure laziness
@pac4show Is it common for Russian people to use words for fun?
I never said mercenary armies are reliable. All Volunteer Force =/= mercenary. Conscription = Involuntary Servitude, banned by the Constitution. Even though you can sue for anything, it doesn't mean you can win. You assumed I'm a liberal, but I'm a conservative who believes in the Bill of Rights (234 year old). Take my democracy back home? I did not force democracy on you. Why did the Soviet Union dissolved?
@AndrewChan84 read my comment you replied to again dear....... your so naive lol i wana see how many volunteers your going to get if half of the rich dadys buy their kids fake papers that they are ill and the other people have absolutely no respect to the government coincidently even more so after the collapse of xomunism, and as for your bill of rights well that can be amended cant it?;) and as for the colapse of the soviet union well that is a question the youth hastoaskparents
@pac4show 1) Why do you have to fake papers so say that your ill if there is no conscription?
2)The Bill of Rights is the first 10 amendments, it is fixed. Further amendments can be amendment. The sixteenth amendment for an example is unconstitutional. It is not free from hijack.
3) Fuck the poor? How come the poor is fucked when they get taxed less? Don't you know that most taxes benefit the rich and destroy the middle class and the poor? 60% of Russian business are state owned.
@AndrewChan84 god you know i thought for an Asian lad you'd be a bit smarter but i guess I'm just thinking in stereotypes. I'm waisting my time here, you don't know how to constructively answer to my comments and you are ignoring or maybe just not catching half of what said to you. so take your time and read every thing very carefully ok body? and when you get your libertarian ''paradise'' don't forget to pay the charge to your fire department lol What A Moron
@AndrewChan84 and as for liberal conservative crap, honey i study politics i know what i;m talking about your Ideology is LIBERALism what ever side of the two headed coin you pick
@AndrewChan84 as for RONY well he is nothing more that another Chicago boy in disguise, let me just make a prediction (remember it in a few years time if he wins witch im sure he will its all history repeating) he will 1 reduce taxetion 2 reduce the iterest to 0 by demolishing the fed 3 reduce public spending (not only in the army but education, healthcare etc) 4 reduce welfare...... in the end the rich get richer and the poor well..... fuck the poor ehhh?
@pac4show Haha. You watch too much Hollywood movies.
1)Nobody has ever succeeded in abolishing the Federal Reserve.
2)Real currency is better than quantitative easing (which is a liberal idea, even in your country)
3)Cutting government spending means cutting unnecessary spending, because most of these take from the poor and middle class and goes to the government and their lobbyist.
4)Most of the problems today is caused by not following the Bill of Rights (hypocrisy).
@AndrewChan84 and by the way if demagoguery is a too bigger word for you then go and argue with some religious fanatics they will tell you what it means
@AndrewChan84 Ломать не строить ;) = to destroy something is not the same as to build. and building is a responsibility of every individual...... giving every one rights does not help in building as rights have to have the same or if not more responsibilities other wise one becomes lazy or starts thinking too much of himself...... and this is what i learned in the army
@pac4show For your information, in America, Liberal means willing to go again ts the. Constitution to do "good" things. And Conservative means following the Consitution, which consist of the Bill of Rights.
You assumed I'm a liberal. Libertarian = Conservative =/= Liberal.
In America, we believe in hard work, and successful people here have worked hard for their way of life. Nobody has the right to force people to do things they don't want to do, whether it is the State or private.
@gagayps and when it comes to ethics and morals, then that solely depends on the officers, who's job it is to educate and train the soldiers not on the market forces or freedoms and liberties, but if you think otherwise i'd advise you to live a bit longer or maby go and see how nice people really are and your Utopian dream will start crashing like Boeing 747,as i said there are a lot of assholes in the world and paying them extra money is just plain stupidity.
Снимали определенно евреи
rossia3 22 hours ago
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@evgeniyfilipenko выше ответил :-)
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@AndrewChan84 'm pretty sure the lawyer trend is just that of supply and demand i.e one that offers good money for low effort :)))) and as for restrictions, well i don't know this innovation center is relatively new and cooperates with a lot of sponsors, any way i'm not telling you to drop anything and join it but as i say if you get a problem with funding due to the US government cuts or els what you have a place to go.
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"Why is it wrong to be rich and independent, as long as your wealth cannot be used to control other people (whose rights are protected), and keep what your earn and pay some tax. Why must we "pool" our wealth?"
I was comparing American system to socialist and communist systems.
What I meant to say was, although they said very different things about their ideologies, their way of doing things are almost the same.Except Russia did not join the Axis because they want to mind only their own land
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 The American system has all those equality as well, and you only pay a small amount of tax. The people are the "boss" and they tell their Congress what laws they want as long as the laws do not take away other peoples rights. Nobody can force anybody to do things they do not want to do.
American system is not capitalist. It believes in free market, but cannot violate the rights of others.
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@AndrewChan84 lol you americans crack me up, you know nothing about an ideology or how it was operating exept for the bias propaganda crap you learn from censored sources and yet that does not stop you from judging it....... again read more books before you say some shit like that, because you would just get your face broken for saying something like that to my face
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show saying what shit? please specify.
American History is more than 200 years old, and there is of course a non "censored" version of it. You think everything is learned through the TV? There are books here, and we do not live on trees.
I think you are the ignorant one here about American History. You seem to confuse everything for a propaganda.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 well any way, either way the USA is fucked if not through quantitative easing then through Ron Paul and cheap migrant labor which he will be to blame for, but as for Russia we are currently looking and pushing for an alternative reserves currency + we have the land and resources, and the gold reserves so don't worry about us.
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show The thing here is you generalize on what Americans are, without understanding the deeper principles involved and what caused the problem. Propaganda are shallow things because they cause you to see the bad and crude side of the country, making you think they are all the same.
By generalizing, you have put a mental block from allowing you to study deeper into the situation.
It is like me saying "Russian are Communist and drunk Vodka drinkers, therefore Russian culture is also F-up"
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 200 year wow :)))))) lol
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show 230 years. Yes America is only that old, because it severed itself from the British Empire in 1778. Western and English history is way longer than that.
Read more books.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@pac4show You did not like what I said about the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany? Maybe you are a little bit too self-righteous? (I know the USSR and USA are allies in WW2, but I'm talking about principles here)
If you look closely, those similarities are facts. Did I say anything wrong there? Answer this! I'm not talking about who invaded who first. I'm talking about the similarity in the way of doing things. The Fascist also claimed that they are right. Young people forced to fight!
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@pac4show Почему в бессильном гневе? Действительно ли это - открытое и положительное обсуждение, чтобы изучить вещи о мире?
Of course they are differences between Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. But the 5 similarities I listed, are they not the same? Fascist also hate "capitalist pigs", and they perceive America to be like that. Yes, Germany invaded Russia, and Russia have help greatly the allies to defeat the Fascist. But I am looking deeper here also.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 lol you are an idiot thats all i can say read a history book about the Nazi Germany they are pro market you bafoon and always were they are elitist just as libertarians they believe in the survival of the fittest as libertarian the only social thing about them is the Keynesian economic principals which (which came to be as a response tocomunis) they adopted but so has America in that period, so stop embarrassing yourself and disrespecting those who fought them
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show I do not meant to be disrespectful to those who fought the Nazi, but I want to be 100% objective. You only looked that the one social aspects that is not the same as Russia. How about the first 4 I listed (forget religion)?
Take away one similarity - If Hitler did not have military officers shooting conscripts (forced), his Operation Barbarossa might not even begin.
Stalin also killed many of Russians. So did Hitler. If only those two did not exist?
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 ok i guess i will have to spell it out for you, but you know i did not apply to be political science teacher. First of all Communism believes in absolute equality of all human beings and not a particular race or social class but to achieve that one must remove the hierarchical structure which cosed a civil war unlike in Germany where they came to power democratically with the help of the ruling elite (who thought they could use them for their advantage).
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show In America everyone is also equal under the Bill of Rights, even Congress, or the Executive branch cannot take away those rights under the Constitution. The difference with communism is, you get to keep what you work for. The more work you produce, the more the fruit of your labor. The more tax you pay.
Get rid of social hierarchy? How? Stalin can dictate to people. What he and his ministers decides behind your back you do not know.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 civil war is a very complicated affair and its results also leave a lot of thing in question, see some may say it were the reds(communists) who committed crimes and other might say it were the whites(imperials) after the civil war Lenin died and his successors like Trotzkiy pissed of with the fact that Europe was helping the Empire during the civil war wanted to spread communism further,Stalin siezed power and said that we want comunism in one nation to achivestabilt
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show Although the professed ideology are very different between Nazi and Soviets, in the end its practical manifestation and crimes against its own people were very similar. Where many of these things would be illegal under the American constitution. All is due to the fact that they want to impose their will on other people.
Why must one make everything belong to the State to achieve equality? You can still achieve equality with private ownership and equal rights.
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@AndrewChan84 while Hitler prepared for war Stalin was trying to actually produce that what was promised to the people creating mass construction projects and trying to lift the agricultural sector (with negative effects) to support every one without the help anyone who turned away from Russia after Communists won the war. the reasons that Stalin signed a pact with Hitler is again because every one turned away from Russia portraing communism as evil (had social revolts at home too
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@AndrewChan84 while Hitler prepared for war Stalin was trying to actually produce that what was promised to the people creating mass construction projects and trying to lift the agricultural sector (with negative effects) to support every one without the help anyone who turned away from Russia after Communists won the war. the reasons that Stalin signed a pact with Hitler is again because every one turned away from Russia portraing communism as evil (had social revolts at home aswell) .
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@AndrewChan84 as i said they turned away because they were scared of communism and had their own revolts under the red flag during and after October revolution like in England, Germany and other European countries so Russia was in Isolation and had to rely on itself. THE PEOPLE ARE THE GOVERNMENT AND THEY GET MORE AS THEY WORK MORE, and now unlike before they had free full education for every one, free health-care for every one, and were assured that they will never be out of work
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@AndrewChan84 and he started to kill and jail those in the party who might oppose him, you can say that this has stopped an even furtherer bloodshed, also those who brought communism to Russia were were them selves not Russian but of a Jewish origin so some might argue that they were doing it for their benefit or that of Kizer Wilhelm, now Stalin cleared them out and achieved stability though at a price of their lives.
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 Hitler on the other hand used the Reichstags fire decree (a democratic tool) to get rid of the competition by blaming Comunists for terrorism (sounds familiar :) and baned the parties imprisoned them and set up a dictatorship, with the same elite on top but only one political party also adopting Keynesian economics and creating propaganda that blamed the Jews for everything and prasing the German VOLK
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show Even though Hitler was blaming Communist for many things, his National Socialist ideology also has many similarities with communism. That 4 which I have mentioned. In the end, the practical side is the one that affects people regardless of what the professed ideology is right?
Why is it wrong to be rich and independent, as long as your wealth cannot be used to control other people (whose rights are protected), and keep what your earn and pay some tax. Why must we "pool" our wealth?
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 do you think the rich would ever commit to social reform if it was not for communism, there would not be welfare or public schools if there was no revolution in Russia, there would still be surf-tum as in India, a rich guy would never give a cent away if he does not have to and that is why democrats and the elite were so afraid of it, they give you an imaginary dream of democracy where only supper rich get supper richer and all the rest are surfs as theyswitchpupets
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show If you read what i said correctly, the American system taxes the rich and poor equally (%), as according to the Constitution. So the rich does pay more tax if it is the same %. This means they also contribute more to public infrastructure. They are not free to "steal" from other people. They also create jobs for people.
Why do you keep confusing between "unlimited democracy" which is an anarchy, with the American system. This type of confusion is very common even today.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 how if inflatin is high and so are the prices yet wages are low for the midle class?
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show Inflation high, means central bank (the government) is robbing everyone (poor, middle, and rich). It is our duty to call our congressman to tell them to follow the Constitution, or else we will vote them out, and they have no jobs.
The wages will be governed by the market, and creative business will create new jobs. That is why science is good in America, because it allows creativity. If price of food is high, more people will do food business to bring down price.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 inflation rises when people have more money to spend i.e. when taxes are low, businesses see that people have more money and raise the prises, so what happens if your congress man is on the take with say WALMAKT
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show Inflation is purely because of Количественное смягчение (quantitative easing). Business cannot simple raise price, or else their business will NOT survive.
If today, everybody sells $2 for an apple, which is according to market price. And then, I sell it at $5, do you think my business will survive one day. Who will but from me.
Similarly, when a business is profitable, due to high price of products, more people will do it to bring down the price!
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 yes but with higher inflation the startup costs or barriers to entry also rise and thing is that it is not a problem for those who already have capital, there fore corruption creates monopolies
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show That is, when every citizen is responsible for their rights, making sure the government doesn't make unfair laws that benefit only a certain company by creating a monopoly. It is against the constitution to use laws to create monopolies by benefiting an existing company with unfair privileges.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 and people are in debt to their mortgage
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show people are in debt to their mortgage because they take loan like playing in a casino.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 or their business became uncompetitive with that same walmarkt
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show walmart's advantage is low price because it gets everything in large quantities. But small companies and provide better service and attention, if they try hard enough also.
I own a beverage business with little capital, and I can go against bigger and older companies, because I give good products and lower price (sacrifice a little bit of profit) in order to attract customers.
Isn't it the same with Russia today?
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@pac4show also if you are doing scientific research on things that can benefit people like, curing cancer, etc. They government will give you grants (money) if you can prove to them you research will be useful. Otherwise you have to find your own money.
The only problem is, big companies like AIG, Goldman Sachs, etc. have government connection, and the use the central bank to "bury its debt" by quantitative easing.
So they have unfair advantage and we suffer.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 yeas but if ron cuts public spending who is going to pay for the research if only the rich have the money
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 unlimited democracy is what libertarians are striving for....... do you still not get it???????
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show libertarian is NOT liberal. Sounds the same, but different meaning. The one you refer to is Liberal (the ones who want to control everything, and make their wallets thick).
Libertarian means fighting for the rights of people as the Boss, and the government are the ones who work for them, and the government cannot be too big. If the gov. is too big, that the elitist will use it to control people and put money into their own wallets.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 and that is what Ron poal is striving for
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 it is the liberterian dream, and it is the reason why they hate comunism so much...........but what they will give in return is a freedom to starve
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show do you know how much the American goverment is taxing us right now? 10% (below 8500 a year) to 33% (more than 330,000 a year), Federal Income tax.
That plus, sales tax 6% -10%, capital gains tax, gift tax, etc.
Total can reach as high as 50% for some people.
The elites get away with tax because they know how. This sort of tax robs from the poor and middle class, and gives to the rich.
Under American system less tax is better. It is the opposite.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@pac4show and where did all these tax go? To all the use less wars, and government agencies that do not help The People, and also to the Elite.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 im telling you these people don't do it on a small scale they only do it big and in all the wrong places. Capitalism is made on making a profit and whats the best way to make a profit then to privatize that which is free
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show if a person starts a big business if he/she has alot of money, 1) many jobs will be created 2)people working in those jobs will learn the tricks of the trade 3) Small business also have its own advantage when going against big companies, because small companies have less bureaucracy. Companies like Facebook start very small. Small companies can provide more attention to customers. The bigger the company the more tax is paid, that goes to public services. Fair.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 ok imagine you and every one els has more money because of a tax cut, so you are a business and you know that every one got a tax cut right what do you do to maximise profit?
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show tax cannot be cut too much. We are not tribal people, we believe in public service. We need to pay tax for army, police, hospital, roads, schools, etc. But everyone in the private sector is allowed to compete with government to provide better service OR lower price, like private hospitals.
The only way I can maximize profit without corrupting the law, is to try to provide the best product/service as possible at the best price. That is all.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 any tax-brake in the US primarily benefits the big business and the elite as they have already the assets to dominate the market and with a tax brake they have even more. so in the end what a tax brake or a public cut does is it gives nothing to the poor because inflation rises but makes the rich a bit richer. and as for Liberterianism there moto is minimum government and maximum freedom
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show In the USA, a tax increase benefits the rich, because they have ways to evade tax. The high tax will fall on the middle class.
A tax cut will benefit the poor and middle class, because they pay the most income tax (the rich have ways to evade it). This is due to the funny IRS tax code which consists of thousands of pages. It is also against he constitution.
A flat national sales tax of 10-15% will benefit everyone, and tax everyone fairly (now fighting for).
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 a flat tax just takes even more money from the poor and does not take a lot to the rich.
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show 10% of 100,000 is 10,000. 10% of 3,000 is 300. Even Russia has flat income tax of 13%.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 yes but Russia has nationalized industry which works as a safety net and the USA does not, so if they cut the taxes cut the spending and put on a flat tax prices will rise, unemployment will rise and poverty will increase absolutely not effecting the rich but highly damaging the poor
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 and thats exactly where the sixteenth amendment plays its part ofcours ron doesnt need to change the constitution its all already there
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show sixteenth amendment is the unfair tax law that benefits the rich. It is against the constitution itself. It is put there by the Elites. You cannot tax income according to the constitution. But tax only sales.
That is why many conservative people in America want a flat-rate 10-20% national sales tax. For rich and poor.
That means when you buy something, you pay 10-20% its value in tax. Keep all you income.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 so again that makes the prices go up and coses inflation
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show That does not cause inflation. Printing money cause inflation. You're still confused. :)
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AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 Its basic fucking economics and we have been over this like what 20 times peoplemoney goes up prices go up
Definition of 'Inflation' The rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, and, subsequently, purchasing power is falling. Central banks attempt to stop severe inflation, along with severe deflation, in an attempt to keep the excessive growth of prices to a minimum.
pac4show 1 month ago
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@pac4show You have no idea how inflation works. Do you know that 1 ounce of gold today can buy a good formal suit, as it did in 1917? The price of oil according to gold has not risen at all since 1970.
If money is based on gold, meaning 1 dollar = 1 silver dollar.Then inflation will be zero. Because your central banks keep printing money, the price of goods increase because the paper money in circulation is getting more.
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AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 кароче скоро всей вашей америке пипец
pac4show 1 month ago
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@pac4show Сегодня, если 1 грамм золота - 1 рубль.
И завтра, ваш Центральный Банк печатает больше денег. Бумажные деньги удвоились.
Тогда 1 грамм золота стоит 2 рубля.
Количественное смягчение
Поймите?
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AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 так ты так и не ответил ты инженер или как, если да то айда к нам
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show Даже если я, это не вносит свой вклад в значение этого обсуждения. Но, да.
Я - человек, который любит помогать, столько, сколько может люди в этом мире, если возможно. Я не желаю сделать врагов с любым, но жить моей жизнью согласно тому, как я хочу.
Красота Америки, даже учится, вещи как снежинка (походите бесполезный) в учреждении исследования, также возможно. Другие страны не будут давать спонсору для таких вещей, потому что только сосредотачиваются на вооруженных силах:)
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 Skolkovo Innovation Center maybe gives similar opportunities.... see in Soviet Union we had a lot of engineers but now every one wants to be a layer or an economist, i would have tried but i don't have the brain for it , i cloud not even get good grade on a mechanics apprenticeship
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show Thank you for your remarks. I'm sure that Russia has its fair share of brilliant scientist and engineers, whose intellectual achievement far exceeds mine. In today's society, creativity comes from doing what a person likes to do, to help as much people as possible, compared to the old days of forcing people to do things.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 and as for your tax cuts they will not buy you a doctors appointment if there is no public service because of such thing as INFLATION do you want me to spell inflation out for you aswell>?
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show tax cut means nothing if you do not see what the level of tax is now. The right amount of tax is about 10-15% of flat sales tax, that's all. It should be enough for all government spending and public service, if the government is responsible in spending that money. It is the duty of The People (We The Boss) (trough Congress) to tell the government how to spend that money, not them.
Inflation is due to Количественное смягчение (also illegal). Do not confuse between the two.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@pac4show cont.--- Communism on the other hand, takes away certain rights. Right to choose type of work (at certain times), right to own business, right to create certain types of jobs, right not to be forced to do things by anyone (including the state), right to make laws trough Congress representative (laws must follow Bill of Rights)/ Right to be Represented.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@pac4show but one very big difference between Nazi and Soviets is that the Nazi are the ones who commit the aggression, simply taking other people's land just because they think there are Jews there.
But if I take away its 4 similarities with the Soviet, would the Nazi still be able to do that?
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 just remember my prediction......... try the 1991 to 2012 on inflation in russia data its in can be scrolled in the top right corner of the chart............... the first 4 to 5 years after communism were free market 'liberal' years
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 and try some other figures like say Govenment Debt hahahahahah ahhhhhhhh lol make some comparisons to usa ;) and by the way the differences between Russia and the USA is and always has been that you have more rights but we have more freedoms, and by the way if your an engineer or a scientist as it looks from you profile you are more then welcome to come to Russia, i promise you, you will like it here--seems like we have more layers and fucking economist nowadays
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show US debt is because of too much количественное ослабление. People who are chairman of the Fed are also chairman of the IMF. These people are part of the Bilderberg group. They are the one's who were behind and funding of WW1 and WW2. In other words, they are our true enemy. But we cannot blame only them, but also our own ignorance on these issues.
The reason why I'm against conscription (forced) is because it allows politicians to do what they like to do. For any reason I'm against it.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 i advise you to have a read of the shock doctrine, you will understand that gov control is not such a bad thing and as for taxes and privatization, you wount find one working class and i mean working class Russian who would want further privatization of the Russian industry, true there are those who follow your views but these are people who are already well of and are just persisting more tax reductions as they can afford holidays on the bahamas.
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show You think Americans do not believe in government and taxation? You think we do not believe in laws?
America is not a complete democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic ruled by The People. The Legislative branch represents it's people but cannot infringe on the Rights of others. It is not anarchy. Not complete privatization.
In most countries there is the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branch. All has its limits. Not like a simple Hollywood movie about "capitalism".
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 the thing is even though they criticize our government they dont understand that Putin is not as fucked up as some voodo gooroos like your favourite LIbritarians or those fucks that do the oposite driving the country into debt in the USA, true there is corruption but the debt is payed and inflation is kept stable all that is needed is some stable investments off the oil surplus unfortunately it all burned out in American banks or maby just ''disappeared'' in 2008
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show it is a matter of time before any country with quantitative easing will do this, especially if they have the World Reserve Currency. America is like a human body that carries the HIV virus because it has the world reserve currency.
The reason why America is so corrupted is because it has been heavily polluted by the international bankers. Even Malaysia has better inflation rate than US. This is because of the "bubble crisis".
In the end it is about principles.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@pac4show BTW, my "favorite Libertarians" are not like the "liberals" which I think you meant to say. You should do more research on Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.
For your information, all also presidential candidates get their money from corporate sponsoredhip. Ron P is the poorest, until his money came in from The People.He has the highest military personnel donations of all candidates(wants to bring back troops).
CNN,FOX try their best to sensor him. research
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 and without being all conspiratorial, just try to use your logic for a second yes think back to Bush a Texan, who replaced him??? a black guy who won a ''''piss prize''' and who promised to take care of the poor and needy but ended up still helping the rich and greedy............. so logically who would be next in line ?????
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show You are absolutely right about Bush and Obama. And the elite will try their best to choose their own kind for the next Presidency. And they will hate those who will try to thwart their plans and try sabotage his/her campaign.
But to allow that to cause you to pass judgement on a man who may or may not win, is judging a cover by its book. Don't let your mental block prevent you from doing adequate research before saying something.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 ммммдаааа с американцам что с подростком разговаривать. Полный Пипец!:))))) go Разбейся головой об стену....:))) lol you know i realy don't give a flying fuck who will be your next president but i gues you will never understand the big picture of things and that picture is that who ever it is he will still be a liberal but if you read enough of the history of the world maybe you will understand who is to blame for corruption and most of the evil in the world
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show Even though the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were enemies, their principles were almost the same.
Both believe in socialism, where everything belongs to the state.
Both believe that the individual is to sacrifice for the state.
Both have military officers that execute deserting conscripts (forced).
Both have leaders that killed the opposition of their party.
Both do not believe in "funny religions":)
Yet they were enemies just because their leaders do not like each other..
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@pac4show That is because of the removal of price control. And also because Viktor Gerashchenko gave too much loan to state enterprises. Somebody must be eating the "rain of money". Now inflation in Russia has stabilized to the same rate as most countries.
количественное ослабление is always a liberal idea, even in America. American conservatives are against such thing.
Does the Russian Federation Constitution forbids such thing?
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@pac4show How about your Putin? Is he a benevolent socialist? He didn't make use of his power like other "capitalist pigs" like Bush?
Was Stalin a benevolent socialist? Gulags? Comrade Commissar shooting deserting conscripts with Tokarev pistol?
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 you know its so funny to see an american cornered, that is the only reason i actually started talking :))))) i'l make it quick
1 fuck putin
2 NO
3 NO
4 YES
5 SO
6 GOOD saved the world from FASCISM
and на засыпку before frowning the ''tyrants'' card read some more history books
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show This conversation is not making sense anymore. ;)
Let me tell you your government is not very different from the corrupt American government.
количественное ослабление
It means they are now free to print money, and devalue your Rubles. Then they give it to who they want to give.
Everywhere we are getting bluffed by the government, it is the same. Good night.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
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Я каждому из своих друзей задавал два одних и тех же вопроса после их демобилизации: «Нужно ли, по-твоему, служить в армии?» и «Пошёл бы ты в армию ещё раз?». На 1-й вопрос все поголовно кричали: «Обязательно!!!11», а на второй вопрос так же поголовно отвечали: «Нет!». Один, правда, говорил, что остался бы по контракту, но теперь, будучи дома, сам не пошёл бы. (Россия. Московская область. Пятеро опрошенных)
iPsifiohne 1 month ago 2
ja kstati toje tak dumal kogda batya menya v desant otpravit hotel, tam v mashine sam chut ne obassalsya :))))) no teper jeleyu chto kak v etom filme popal slujit v RVSN :))) hotya ne jaleyu gorjus konechno chto v raketnih slujil, no na halavu s parashuta poprigat da kerpich nauchitza razbivat bilobi kruto.... tak chto idite hlopzi kuda poshlut mujiki vsetaki ili gde :))))
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 just as in Russia) so unless you go and try to change it yourself you are not better then those who you accuse. I am not telling anyone that its easy or a walk in the park but you will definitely appreciate it when its over, hell i had a hard time but now i regret that i dint take a step forward when they were recruiting for a contract. and when it comes to america i say again less involvement in foreign affairs buddy the world is sick of you as it is
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 my point of view is that you america should shut the hell up, get out of foreign affairs and sort your selves out. hi from Russia.... i served 12 months in the Russian army and was not a slave, became more of a man and feel better and more confident about my self. assholes are everywhere be it in the army, work, school or university. main thing is to be yourselves. And unless you go there and do something to change it (by the way i'm well aware hazing (dedovshina) in USA exist
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 and by the way hazing (dedovshina) in Russia exist because they have nothing to do, yet in Usa it exists never the less that it is constantly at war and operates on a contract basis, so personally for you america i don't advise to follow my advise because you might actually get killed in an unethical war which no one needs, but at-least you'l make some money ehhh, capital, green green stuff so fetch i know you guys cant live without it lol :))
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show This is not USA vs Russia. I'm not talking about hazing(dedovshina). This about the morals and ethics of conscription.
A person's life and time belongs to himself. If you learn something from military service, then good for you. But nobody should be forced because God gives everybody free will.
A citizens duty is to not kill, not steal, and not murder. He does not owe his life and "service" to the country. This is my principles.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
По моему мнению, воинская повинность - нарушение человеческой этики.
Вы используете деньги для хлеба с маслом, но Вы сдаете время, жизнь, член и выполняете заказы бесплатно?
Вы приехали из влагалища собственной матери, но быть должный "обслуживание" стране и лидеру?
Логика воинской повинности испорчена. Это - рабство с различным названием.
Извините меня, мой русский язык не хорош.
Привет из США.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 boll shet. there are not soldiers of -nо of the future. небылоб вояк -небылоб и нас самих.
gagayps 1 month ago
@gagayps Армия добровольца более эффективна чем принудительные солдаты. Только люди, которые хотят остаться полным рабочим днем, должны пойти. Или иначе они будут тратить впустую налоговые деньги.
Принудительная военная служба - трата денег и не эффективная. 21-ое столетие доказало это.
Не вопрос США против России.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 it has proven absolutely nothing be it in the moral or financial sense, i can see you are a liberal so i'll be easy on you cos you guys are confused as it is, conscription is cheaper then a contract because the market does not set the prices and about efficiency well you can brain wash a marine as much as you want his primary function would be a search of profit and personal well being, and if you add natural right and ability to sue for any thing = shit moral
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 look at America and what financial situation the wars brought on it, and still you hear soldiers disrespecting the dead by pissing on them, soldiers raping civilians and fellow soldiers, deaths amongst a civilian population and so on, the thing about you liberals is that you think you are progressive yet you hang to ideas which are long outdated, example to that is the mercenary armies which were used during the renaissance and which ended upbeingabsolut unreliable
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 as i said, take your demagoguery back home friend, for us you are just babies, we have long standing traditions which stood the test of time at being both moral and efficient and as for the liberal ideas, well we had them in the 90s and no thank you ended up shutting power of in half the country couse market said it was inefficient, i dare not to count how many lives liberalism has taken already but god damn it i sure see the need to send it back to enlightenment
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@pac4show Up to you, but I'm sure many in your country are against conscription. Your persecution against them will be remembered.
America is in deep financial shit because it is not following it's own Constitution, which forbids printing money without gold. Your country is also doing the same.
In America, people with principles are also very hard to find these days, and the government is corrupt, just like your Putin.
Almost everyone in America is corrupt except Ron Paul.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 don't be to fast to judge a man by his cover, I'm sure Ron Paul is just another word-smith, politics are nothing if you don't try to change your self first, being a ''humanitarian'' and giving people advise is the same as shouting down a well, main thing to be yourself and if you truly care about something than change it from the inside with own hard work and suffering not by shouting at a brick wall, as i said education is key education through prior experiences
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show Is it you or me who has not done enough research on this man Ron Paul? If a politician can say the same thing for 20 years, he has qualified for my trust. The internet has unlimited information that the media cannot hide. Go and see how our corrupt politicians are so scared of him that the always try to pretend he doesn't exist:)
watch?v=viDKeTzSLf4&feature=related
Nobody has the right to force people to do things they don't want to do.There are better ways to cure laziness
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@pac4show Is it common for Russian people to use words for fun?
I never said mercenary armies are reliable. All Volunteer Force =/= mercenary. Conscription = Involuntary Servitude, banned by the Constitution. Even though you can sue for anything, it doesn't mean you can win. You assumed I'm a liberal, but I'm a conservative who believes in the Bill of Rights (234 year old). Take my democracy back home? I did not force democracy on you. Why did the Soviet Union dissolved?
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 read my comment you replied to again dear....... your so naive lol i wana see how many volunteers your going to get if half of the rich dadys buy their kids fake papers that they are ill and the other people have absolutely no respect to the government coincidently even more so after the collapse of xomunism, and as for your bill of rights well that can be amended cant it?;) and as for the colapse of the soviet union well that is a question the youth hastoaskparents
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show 1) Why do you have to fake papers so say that your ill if there is no conscription?
2)The Bill of Rights is the first 10 amendments, it is fixed. Further amendments can be amendment. The sixteenth amendment for an example is unconstitutional. It is not free from hijack.
3) Fuck the poor? How come the poor is fucked when they get taxed less? Don't you know that most taxes benefit the rich and destroy the middle class and the poor? 60% of Russian business are state owned.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
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@AndrewChan84 god you know i thought for an Asian lad you'd be a bit smarter but i guess I'm just thinking in stereotypes. I'm waisting my time here, you don't know how to constructively answer to my comments and you are ignoring or maybe just not catching half of what said to you. so take your time and read every thing very carefully ok body? and when you get your libertarian ''paradise'' don't forget to pay the charge to your fire department lol What A Moron
pac4show 1 month ago
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@AndrewChan84 and as for liberal conservative crap, honey i study politics i know what i;m talking about your Ideology is LIBERALism what ever side of the two headed coin you pick
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 as for RONY well he is nothing more that another Chicago boy in disguise, let me just make a prediction (remember it in a few years time if he wins witch im sure he will its all history repeating) he will 1 reduce taxetion 2 reduce the iterest to 0 by demolishing the fed 3 reduce public spending (not only in the army but education, healthcare etc) 4 reduce welfare...... in the end the rich get richer and the poor well..... fuck the poor ehhh?
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show Haha. You watch too much Hollywood movies.
1)Nobody has ever succeeded in abolishing the Federal Reserve.
2)Real currency is better than quantitative easing (which is a liberal idea, even in your country)
3)Cutting government spending means cutting unnecessary spending, because most of these take from the poor and middle class and goes to the government and their lobbyist.
4)Most of the problems today is caused by not following the Bill of Rights (hypocrisy).
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 and by the way if demagoguery is a too bigger word for you then go and argue with some religious fanatics they will tell you what it means
pac4show 1 month ago
@AndrewChan84 Ломать не строить ;) = to destroy something is not the same as to build. and building is a responsibility of every individual...... giving every one rights does not help in building as rights have to have the same or if not more responsibilities other wise one becomes lazy or starts thinking too much of himself...... and this is what i learned in the army
pac4show 1 month ago
@pac4show For your information, in America, Liberal means willing to go again ts the. Constitution to do "good" things. And Conservative means following the Consitution, which consist of the Bill of Rights.
You assumed I'm a liberal. Libertarian = Conservative =/= Liberal.
In America, we believe in hard work, and successful people here have worked hard for their way of life. Nobody has the right to force people to do things they don't want to do, whether it is the State or private.
AndrewChan84 1 month ago
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@gagayps and when it comes to ethics and morals, then that solely depends on the officers, who's job it is to educate and train the soldiers not on the market forces or freedoms and liberties, but if you think otherwise i'd advise you to live a bit longer or maby go and see how nice people really are and your Utopian dream will start crashing like Boeing 747,as i said there are a lot of assholes in the world and paying them extra money is just plain stupidity.
pac4show 1 month ago
А у нас другую версию показывали....
Там было "Мы с моим другом чебурашкой хотим служить в армии"
6765737635673 1 month ago
такая армия должна быть уничтожена... если по-правильному
Korn1holio 1 month ago
Кришнаиты в Хим Войска :))))))
KeymoreNick 1 month ago
Иза-за демократии многие могут отмазатся от армии!
svinsity 1 month ago
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Какой воин служит когда-либо на своем содержании? (1 Кор. 9: 7)
Я знаю такого воина, просто его запугали и кинули!
109Morpheus 1 month ago
все ссутся))))))) убило просто!
kirasir4574 1 month ago
долбоебы туда идут
12345678941587 1 month ago
Что за фильм? не могу найти его в интернете.
TheAlexus93 1 month ago 3
@TheAlexus93
дмб это
XomyakS 1 month ago
Не охото чтобы там в армии деды мне голову проломили об унитаз... какая уж там защита родины.
TheWonderer888 1 month ago 7
@TheWonderer888 сам им проломай.
TheCatMatvey 1 month ago
@TheWonderer888 v armii unitazov net tam est ochki tak chto za golovu ne pois :)))))
pac4show 1 month ago
Ахаха конец порадовал ) "Все ссутся")
nominel 2 months ago 2
дмб фильм
Niko7441 2 months ago
дмб фильм
Niko7441 2 months ago
блин хороший фильм !!!!
MegaEduard777 2 months ago
Фильма для тех кого загребли
Smitakus 2 months ago