Good hunt! Looked like it was finished very quickly and the stag didn't suffer at all. A lot of abbatoirs wouldn't be so quick. We wouldn't even be watching a video like this if it wasn't for hunting. Humankind would have been extinct a long time ago.
no cruelty there, was a damn good hunt, hounds got on the stag, hunt were there straight away called of the dogs, secured and dispatched the stag, then removed the body for dog food at the kennels, bravo on a good hunt i say
So tell me exactly what they did because I've seen worse things than this that are legal....seriously tell me because it was obviously the camera persons first time holding a camera so I may have missed parts
Mr Cameron and his friends wish to bring back this degeneracy, why? Hunting still goes on, it is only the gore and sadism that is missing and they want it back!!! Surely, the part that is missing from hunting today under the ban could be made up for by day trips to slaughterhouses, surely that would satisfy them?
Oh this makes me feel ill! That poor stag the fear that he must've felt this is evil.... and look how brave he was he tried to fight back he did.... this is shameful
@AnimalRightsUnited YOU GOT A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN AIDS ,NOW UNBOCK MY FAT ASS ,YOU PUSSY OR YOU GONA KEEP RUNNIN LIKE THE FAGG YOU ARE your ass is mine PEDO
@caturn88 No it's not, this is depravity at its best. I live in a rural community and have many friends that would never engage in such acts of despicable wickedness.
@AnimalRightsUnited Listen to yourself, granted a rural community has its oddities, but the fact is most are not squeamish and that can clearly be seen in those who take part. Which by all accounts, and this goes back hundreds of years, are most of the village dwellers in the villages that hunt and many who flock from near and far to observe and even participate.
@AnimalRightsUnited lol you sleep in the country, sounds like your mind lives in the town. Most people born and raised in the country have some link to hunting in one form or another. not so much nowadays among the younger generations.
@holmebubben sweden has a long history of hunting with hounds. Especialy hunting hares with beagle type hounds and digging badgers with terreiers of all sorts. This is exacaly the same .... Infact id love to come to your country and see your terriers work badger ... i guess your not goin to offer an invitation tho ...
colcfc123 ... i doubt you are a hunt sab. If you was a hunt sab you would know that all those points tacosalad246 has said are true for the UK aswel. Hunting just wouldnt be able to exist if it wasnt for the wildlife management aspect. Deer are hunted and stalked in the UK for this very reason. On the other side the LACS sanctuary were hunting and stalking is over stocked with very very poor deer, in bad condition due to over population.
@ChipppyTea Well I am a Hunt Saboteur and always will be. This Clip on you tube is cruel and nasty and is not a humane way to manage Deer population. It is both vile and disgusting. Just an excuse for Ho-ray Henriettas to try to prove what a man they are. Estrogen can be put in food to prevent breeding or even trapping and moving to other areas.
Hey I'm a hunter I shoot it dead it does not suffer I eat the meat and I agree it is not a sport because you're right it's not fair and this video was sickning to watch anybody who treats an animal this way and gets pleasure from it should be in jail simple concept you kill it quickly and cleanly and use as much of the animal as possible shame you people you sick fucks you give true hunters who have the ideas at heart a bad name
@DGNreptiles What I am saying is that a person who is cruel to animals is more than likely a psychopath who is likely to hurt people. When you say "just having morals what are we with out them no better than animals. We also have a conscience that tells us right from wrong. People who hurt animals are emotionally retarded this makes them unfeeling with no empathy for other creatures and usually social misfits like the kids who shoot up their school. Of course animals have rights
deeply rooted in thier soul and as long as we are breathing and there is game to hunt no legislation or efforts by those who disagree with us will ever stop us from hunting. You had best believe that because its a fact.
@tacosalad246 You can not call it sport. Sport is a fair competition between two sides example football. Hunting an animal with a big gun or a pack of dogs is not fair, the animal can not win. So it is just Macho bullshit. I am not in Kentucky but stopping animal cruelty is deep rooted in my and many others soul and we will go to great lengths to stop hunting legal or not.
@tacosalad246 I am however really happy to hear about the looking after wild life side. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree about the sport aspect. Thanks for your comments though It gives me food for thought.
rather the time spent enjoying nature. Im not trying to win you over to our side, frankly I dont care what you think, I am just taking a stand for myself and others like me. It makes my blood boil to hear someone who knows virtually nothing about what I do call my ways stupid or backwards, if thats your opinion so be it, but we are far from it. In parting I want you to know that a true hunter a really true hunter who is passionate about the hunt has a yearning to practice our sport that lies
the other side of the argument instead of believing the lies that have been shoved down your throat you would realize hunters aren't cruel savages who want to murder animals but are stewards of the land who want to promote conservation and at the same time do somthing they truly love, that is part of a tradition that has been passed down through the ages. Sure hunters kill, but I think if you actually talked to a hunter, you would find that most hunters do not take pleasure in the kill, but
@tacosalad246 Very well put. You have given me a lot to think about. I live in London UK and the people who hunt in England are usually rich and hunt for sport, or cruel thugs who go Badger baiting with dogs again for fun. I can see that in Kentucky the responsible hunting parties are helping to preserve the wildlife. However as a practicing hunt saboteur I feel strongly that hunting for the sake of killing is wrong. I will tell you why
have done more to benefit wildlife populations than any anti hunting animal welfare rights activist have ever done, or will do. Hunting is a passion rooted deeply in the souls of many, and hunters will do anything and everything they can to promote hunting and conservation. Remember how I said bears had been eliminated from kentucky many years ago due to irresponsible hunting. Well there making a comeback due to the efforts to restore the bear population. I think if you made an effort to see
a life or death situation with an animal who wanted to kill you, you would let it. Now we dont have those large predators to manage animals such as deer and elk. The deer and elk populations are booming here and if not properly and responsibly managed as our game law dictates, starvation and disease would cause many animals to die in anguish. Hunters are not the cruel people that you have been led to believe they are. Hunting organizations such as Ducks Unlimited and other conservationist groups
colfc123. Look in many places around the world the natural selection process and the way it should happen has been thrown off balance due to humans and urbanization. In kentucky before humans began to build homes and town there were natural predators to keep animal populations in check, bears, and mountain lions were abundant here. Once humans came along the predators were killed off to protect livestock and the welfare of humans. After all as a human being you cannot tell me if you were put in
good argument colcfc123. That was an exemplary showing of you your intelligence! Maybe you feel such compasion and connection with the stag because you are on the same level of intelligence with it. Tell me what would happen if animal populations were not managed... starvation, disease, long painful agonizing deaths. Yes I guess you are right hunting is so cruel. But of course you know everything.
@tacosalad246 If animals were left alone Natural selection would take place. You know the survival of the fittest to ensure that the strongest animals breed. If you kill them for fun so a few Red Neck Hicks can boast how much of a man they are. You interfere with this and make the animals weaker. If you feel that puts me on the same level as a stag thats fine by me. I think hunting is wrong and cruel .
while this is not the way we would hunt a deer in Kentucky, to each his own. It makes me sick to read post from ignorant people who think they have the best interest in mind. Educate yourself on the subject before you stick your noses where it does not belong. Do you people not reaize how stupid you sound when the best argument you can put up is petty name calling towards hunters? I didnt see any cruelty toward the stag all I observed was it being quickly dispatched bedore it was injured by dogs
@tacosalad246 Well I think in Kentucky you must either be Retarded or married too many cousins if you think that hunting animals in any way like that is the way that humans should behave. For any normal person to see that and not be disgusted well in the words of Mr T I pity you fool!!! You must be really Fucked up to even think that is ok
Wow. I guess it would be OK if dogs, wolves or coyotes just tracked and killed the stag on their own. They eat them alive, you know....starting with the guts. But, since the people are there to slice its throat, that's pretty damn evil.
@VenisonFajitas Well shit for brains The big difference is we are human and we do it for sport not to survive. So if you can’t see the difference your family must stop having sex with cousins…
@colcfc123 awwww, wook at the poor widdle animal wights activist resorting to stereotyping and namecalling. yeah, yeah, everybody who eats meat has sex with their cousins. your anger is cute and amusing, bunnyfucker.
@VenisonFajitas You may enjoy Rabbits that way they prob will not feel you fucking them anyway. My anger is justified and righteous. If that is the best sarcasm you can do please save it for your mates. In the words of Oscar Wilde sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and yours is really low.
That wasn't sarcasm; I really was laughing at you.
My mother-in-law used to own 3 sheep until one night a small pack of feral dogs (not wolves or coyotes) got hold of them. They ripped out the guts of each and every sheep. Maybe eating the guts of one but leaving the 2 others to die. This is not a rare occurrence. Please explain to me how this is "for survival" and not "for sport". They were not old or sick sheep, either.
And nice try on the small penis insult. I don't have a penis.
@VenisonFajitas Well the Rabbits would have more fun than you They may even blow away some cobwebs. Your pet sheep have nothing to do with stag hunting dogs on their own will pack. Cats hunt on their own. Humans who hunt do it for sport that is what makes them stupid. i.e not for food just fun. If the dogs were well feed they would not hunt. Humans that are well feed hunt that makes them ugly and have prob not had sex in years if not ever. If they had sex they would not feel the need to kill
@colcfc123 Thanks for cracking me up and showing every one your severely flawed logic skills: People who hunt never have sex and yet they are always screwing their cousins.
You still have no answer as to why a pack of dogs would kill animals they have no intention of eating. Oh, right, it must have something to do with their sex lives! Wild/feral cats and other animals also kill animals they have no intention of eating. Must be all the incest going on in the animal kingdom.
@VenisonFajitas Well let me try to explain the basic differences between humans and other animals. Humans have a conscience Well most of us do anyway!! This tells us right from wrong. You know stuff like it is wrong to inflict pain on lesser creatures just cause we can. We should also be able to learn compassion and empathy. These really are very basic instincts. With out them we are no better than Wild animals.
@VenisonFajitas to reply to the pack of dogs killing see my comment on conscience that is what make them animals and us humans. R.E animals and sex I do not know you tell me.
I see nothing wrong with hunting. People need to stay out of other's business. And activists need to eventually realize animals just arent equal to people. We should be humane, but that doesnt mean they should have rights.
"I see nothing wrong with hunting. People need to stay out of other's business" i suppose you see nothing wrong with Rape and Pedaphilia, hey, its their business, right? Moron.
Uhh, no. Im sorry but comparing sex crimes to hunting is a little illogical. Comparing that to a basic innate activity for every predatory animal is disturbing at best. And save the name calling for fifth grade.
@misryislonely really?you see nothing wrong with pain fear and suffering,would be poetic justice if you came back as a stag.Animals have a right to life your on there land remember and the be humane comment isnt that a bit of a oxymoron?.
@cas45cas45 Yes, I do see problems with that....when it doesnt serve a purpose. If you go out hunting for the thrill of killing and just dump the bodies, then yeah, you should probably seek help before you move onto killing women and children. That's great, give the "they were here first" speech, but when it comes down to it, that's what predators do. We seek territory and we hunt, that isn't unhumane. The guy who lit my rescue pit bull on fire when he was 8 weeks old is unhumane. Get it? Good.
@misryislonely and exactly what purpose are you serving other than enjoying a piss up cruel sport with your cruel friends.shooting would be a better option but that wouldnt be any fun for you would it?and were not cavemen anymore were pretty civilised no need for barbaric slaughter of innocent animals.and as for your dog well the guy that done that was also a barbaric asshole but sorry i dont see the difference your dog was done and injustice just like thousands of foxes are and your point is???
@cas45cas45 You're sorely mistaken, bud. Ive never hunted a day in my life, with or without a gun. I simply believe in the RIGHT for others to hunt. Who are you to decide what is right and wrong in the world? Take your lecture elsewhere, maybe to the hyenas in Africa. I hear they eat animals ALIVE! D: But to answer your question, hunting provides people with food, a way to get out natural instincts, and a way to keep populations in check without natural predators :)
@misryislonely like i said hunting is for yesterdays man and purlease they hunt for food?really iv never seen fox on the menu.and if ppls natural instincts are to hunt scare and watch hounds rip apart innocent wildlife then i guess that makes them pretty savage ppl.ah and how nice of the ppl of the country to give mother nature a helping hand and keeping populations down(what a crock of sh.....i think shes pretty good sorting nature herself.
@cas45cas45 You seem to be misunderstanding me. You're talking specifics, Im talking general. I support hunting, not what I deem acceptable. If you pass legislation supporting the ban of one type of hunting, that can and will be used as leverage to pass bills to ban others you may not have problems with. And you clearly dont understand ecology, if you remove the predators...what happens? Population boom. Id rather be hunted than slowly die of disease or starvation, but that's just me.
@misryislonely Of course animals have rights !! you would not think its ok to beat a dog or cat to death would you?? You can judge a person on the way they treat animals if they are nasty to them you know they will treat you the same way.
Bloody Antis lets ban thier sport Football a game for idiots and morons, which causes far more disruption and public expense than Hunting. Unlees they form packs for Sab Hunting wouldnt get a decent point though too soft to go for it. So friends come on lets form an Anti Football League
@58127myles What the F**k are you talking about. Football is a sport to play or view many people enjoy the sport i.e. the world cup. Football also makes money for people, they go to the pub to see games, they buy flags, shirts, the game also helps keep people fit and helps children learn team work, to name a few good points. Hunting is enjoyed by in bred blood thirsty morons whos idea of a good day out is to rip a poor creature to bits. Well I know what I would rather see. F**k how stupid are U
@58127myles what because animals get killed from football? i know, lets stop making stupid reasons why mindlessly killing animals for no reason other than pleasure should be legal!! u brain dead cunt!
I couldn't tell you if this is cruel or not, given the terrible camera angle, it sorta looks like a bunch of guys standing in a circle jerking off.....which I believe forms the basis of so much of society within the countryside.
I've seen worse treatment of humans in burger king - i'd rather have them sort out that rather than waste everyones time stopping something that forms that basis of so much of society within the countryside.
@colcfc123 by spending your time on something that really matters, get a hobby or something or do something more constructive with your time rather than trying to ruin a tradition because you dont understand it, hunts dont cause you or your family any harm, terrirosts and rapists do so why are you wasting your time?
@Cookietheman1234 You are right hunts do no harm to myself or my family. How ever tradition or not I know right from wrong and hunting is wrong. Plain and simple. Iam sure the slave owners of days past would have spoke of tradition this does not make it right, The same could be said for the Victorian sending children to work or the work house. All this was tradition does that make it right?
@Cookietheman1234 If you really can not see what is cruel about this. Then in the words of Mr T " I pity you fool" I have sabotaged many hunts by laying false trails distracting the hounds and making noise and nuisance to stop you. We know you still hunt despite the ban and the Hunt Sabs are still active to stop you.
The stag is not in distress, wild animals do not have a distress mechanism, they only know fight or flight. The hounds will recover, it is no worse than a rugby match for them, and they absolutely adore it. Imagine a rugby match where everytime you score you get a 5 course michelin meal. I would readily hunt those down that have destroyed this group, of rich and poor hunting folk.
@thom616 Nonsense every living thing has a fear of death. Being chased by a bunch of thugs with dogs causes distress and fear. The dogs may adore it but the stag is Caused un necessary stress pain and anxiety, in the name of a good sporting day out by blood thirsty scum. I for one would love to hunt those bastards with a pack of dogs and a group of thugs on horse back.
@ZeeGreatOne Hypocrite !! Na Righteous anger yeah. Karma what goes around comes around nothing hypocritical about that my friend. Just the way the world is. They will get theirs lets hope they feel the same stress as the poor deer
The stag rarely turns on the hounds, part of the skill is to kill the stag when the hounds are baying. The last half of the that video the stag is dead, it dies within 5 seconds of the men getting therer, within a milli-second of the bolt-gun or broad sword killing it.
If you think this is ok. Then you are a nasty bastard! or a Toffee nosed public school type who think killing animals is your right wot wot, You have the same view of the working class. i.e. lets keep the bastards down wot wot
I support the Hunting Act 2004 which banned this disgusting so-called 'sport.' I am up against a Tory, Mr James Paice, who has said that he will vote to repeal the Act. This will 'un-ban' this disgusting so-called 'sport.' Shame on him and other Tories like him. Geoffrey Woollard, Independent candidate for South East Cambridgeshire.
This is a style of hunting it is not unethical.. how is this bad? Are a vegetarion? because if you are then your worse because plants have absolutly no way to defend themselves against you horrible killer all the plant wanted to do was go throught the stages of photosnythesis but no, you had to go and rip it from the bround and eat it, plants are alive too
not very fair hunting practice . I mean if your going to hunt for food thats fine with me but this is done for the "sport" of it , bunch of folks dressed in their traditional garb with their hounds chasing down some poor unlucky animal to its death . Anyone who would partake in this has no compassion for other creatures . I for one respect all creatures . This is just wrong
If you don't see, what is shocking in the video, you are blind. The stag is chased by A LOT OF dogs. The stag came to a STREET, where MANY people and riders are waiting for him. He had to stop: there was no possibility for him to flee further. So he tried to defend his life by attacking the dogs but he had no chance against all the dogs. Than three or four hunters came and killed him - with a knife I think.
@colcfc123 how about hunting for population control? how about hunting to keep the deer from killing themselves and every other species in an ecosystem?!?? how about that? how about preventing the deer from being so malnourished that they can no longer walk and are infested with parasites? then, when they are on the brink of death, rodents crawl in their body cavities (their ass in this case) and create nests out of their intestine linings? IS THAT ETHICAL?!?! Get a grip on yourself man.
@Afliss92 Of course it is That is natural selection natures way. To hunt for sport is cruel and barbaric and is just a excuse for a bunch of toffee nosed gits to get together and kill animals with dogs. What Nasty Bastards.
the LACS is a joke, a fundamental group clearly misguided in its understanding of nature. how many directors have you forced out of your league for stating that a total ban would be detrimental to the environment? even though they were just as worried about animal welfare as you? at least five ex LACS directors have said that a ban on hunting would be wrong. they came to this conclusion after studying the facts. i suggest that anybody who wants to debate the point sensibly does the same.
@natija08 well the thing is...who are you calling a hunter? are you calling all the followers hunters? because they are not, they are simply mounted followers of the hunt. the dogs and huntmaster along with any marksmen are the hunters. and its a job not just a sport to them.
im sorry, but empathy for animals is different. I could get all scientific and educated and teach you all about k selected species (humans) and how they are genetically designed to treat the individual as valuable. and R selected species (deer) which are genetically predisposed to losing a large portion of their offspring/population to predators. I could go on, but you won't ever listen so i won't. i will tell you this, if you truly care about animals, don't judge by human morals. go by nature
@Afliss92 What a wanker you are!! As humans we have (or some of us) Developed a conscious i.e. right and wrong. To cause creatures that have less intelligence than ourselves pain and distress just because you can in the name of SPORT surly shows that you are thugs, bullies and Shite people with no thought. Every living creature fears death, For you to hunt and kill for sport makes you a Wanker. FACT
seriously, why? its a hunt. The dogs are bread to hunt like a pack. once the animal is down, they take it away. It is actually less gruesome than most of the WILD hunts conducted just by wild animals.
"wild hunts conducted just by wild animals" WTF? It's natural for animals to hunt and kill . But this is not nature. This is a scenario created by man wherby dumb animals are subjected to inhumane and sick cruelty and barbarism by a bunch of morons who get their kicks from the spilling of blood. Disgusting and uncivilised behaviour.
you seem to forget that we are as much animals as deer or dogs. You cannot fairly elevate us above any other species of animal. Humans are organisms designed to use our brains to hunt. You cant ask a man who is in touch with his own nature to disregard the primal instincts that drive both the "sick" humans that you see here and the wild animals you may see out your window. To do so would be like asking all humans on earth to forget sex. some may be able to do it, but not all can.
@Afliss92 Humans have also developed a conscious i.e. sense of right and wrong your argument suggests we have no control over our instincts. If that is the case then the genocide that has happened in Rwanda is excusable as they are only behaving as nature intended. By the same argument if a gang of people beat you up in the street and stole your belongings. That is ok because we are natural predators with no conscious.
@colcfc123 You aren't even arguing against my points XD do you even understand what i'm writing? or am i just a Wanker who isn't worth your precious time? I CARE MORE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE. Did the bold help? I love the wild. I love the animals, but in order to maintain a stable ecosystem we have to keep the number of deer down. Without the natural predators that people like YOU removed, humans are the only ones left to keep the numbers from spiraling out of control.
@Afliss92 Sorry how have I removed natural predators? Maybe I do not understand your points so please Explain it to me. I am sure you are very intelligent and I meant no offence with my comments. But I simply question why we need to cull animals. Surly nature will take care of this for us.
@colcfc123 Yes nature will take care of this for us. But in the way i listed in my previous comment. Humans have removed the natural predators(wolves, etc...) from the environment because they were killing live stock. With out these predators, the only animal left to keep the balance and prevent what i previously stated are humans. I meant no offense to you either. I am glad we are now having a civilized debate. It just bothers me when people are ignorant to the true inner workings of the world.
@Afliss92 Good point I must say I had not thought of that . I must admit you have given me food for thought . I still do not like hunting with hounds! but you have a strong point. As you well say there are no predators left. I will have to think about this. I am a London person born and bred, I dislike cruelty that hunting with dogs is but I need to think about what you have said to give you a worthy answer
@attilius7 this is simply a tried and tested way of getting a meal, humans have been doing it for a very long time. in my opinion this kind of hunting is acceptable, but i prefer the use of guns and fast sight hounds for deer rather than slow scenting dogs. simply because the deer suffers more stress over a prolonged hunt than a fox or hare does. but even so the amount of stress is still minimal, depending on the animals previous experiences.
Don't worry folks, without the hunt the farmers and poachers will soon shoot out the remaining deer in a more proletarian way. The LACS will soon have its dream of a country with no animals in it at all!
im sorry, but you are severely misinformed. if you were to do your research you would see that populations of deer living in areas open to hunting are healthier than those living in wildlife refuges. often the animals if the "refuge" die of starvation, parasite, and disease. all due to overpopulation. in reality, hunting keeps the majority of deer in an area healthier and prevents them from damaging the environment. try getting outside some time. you might learn something
great looking stag, and some well bred hounds too, a credit to the master of the hunt.
it was a sad day when hunting was temporarily banned in Britain. i think someone needs to look into the prosecution details stated at the end of the film as they are incorrect, the actual number charged an successfully prosecuted is much lower/
Were you actually saying anything at all in that comment?
At least you managed to post something without the crazy hehehes that you're so well known for - that's a start.
You know the reason why hunting is still legal? Why it will be so difficult to ban? It's mainly down to people like yourself who are completely nuts, that make a mockery of a perfectly valid anti-hunting view.
There are lots of you around, and as a result, people take your argument less seriously. Learn from Ken.
Hang on, hang on; what's this about? WHERE have I "run to the other side"? I am 100% opposed to blood sports - full stop. Quote me a single comment of mine that says something different.
You've called me a dumb ass, cretin and tard, when you have the literacy of a 9 year old.
The only reason I'm picking this up, is because I found it amusing that you were calling everyone else stupid, when your personal education is clearly lacking. This would make you the stupid cretin, in your own words.
This has little to do with the actual topic on here, more just your unstable ranting. You are doing your cause no good.
Actually, you can find out as much as Silent Scream knows about me by just reading my comments Kenneth.
I was just reading some of the comments, agreeing with both sides, when I saw SS throwing abuse about different people's literacy.
I just found it amusing that someone who was so illiterate was using the same topic to attack everyone.
If you read the comments, I also said that SS's ranting and abuse only damages a fair argument. She should leave the discussion to people who are stable
I feel strongly about certain issues myself, but don't necessarily believe it's black and white.
I support hunting for food, but find the idea of killing for 'sport' distasteful.
Any killing for food (or pest control) should be done as humanely as possible. As I am not a vegetarian, I find it better an animal lives a good life, then dies instantly than one reared with the sole intention of slaughter.
Be assured, I am not closed-minded: I was not born with an innate disgust at the kind of obscenity characterized by the content of this video; it is something that results from my assessment of it.
I think I have to ask myself the question: Is it morally defensible to derive voyeuristic enjoyment from suffering and death? This video does not represent a utilitarian necessity; it is deemed to be 'sport'. What kind of sport authentically involves suffering and death?
FUCKING SAVAGES!
snipe4ever 4 days ago
Good hunt! Looked like it was finished very quickly and the stag didn't suffer at all. A lot of abbatoirs wouldn't be so quick. We wouldn't even be watching a video like this if it wasn't for hunting. Humankind would have been extinct a long time ago.
biggle80 1 month ago
no cruelty there, was a damn good hunt, hounds got on the stag, hunt were there straight away called of the dogs, secured and dispatched the stag, then removed the body for dog food at the kennels, bravo on a good hunt i say
gunhunter299 1 month ago
so where was the cruelty? looked to me that the deer was killed as quick as possible........
sherbert500 2 months ago
ITS TRADITION EVERYONE'S ANCESTORS HAVE DONE IT EVEN YOURS DUMASS
ASSASSIN1603 3 months ago
ITS BRITISH TRADITION IF YA DONT LIKE IT GET OUT!!!!!!!!
ASSASSIN1603 3 months ago
@ASSASSIN1603 i am british and i don't like it you little shit go crawl back up your moms arsehole you little prick!
Richy0407 3 months ago
This has been going on for centurys, go to a fucking butchery, if you wanna see abuse. I worked at one.
MasonicEyes 3 months ago
So long as we all eat meat there will be hunting, abattoirs, killing, slaughter and war
directtalk1 4 months ago
So tell me exactly what they did because I've seen worse things than this that are legal....seriously tell me because it was obviously the camera persons first time holding a camera so I may have missed parts
690169 4 months ago
Why isn't assinine listed as a reaction??
mowdak1 4 months ago
Mr Cameron and his friends wish to bring back this degeneracy, why? Hunting still goes on, it is only the gore and sadism that is missing and they want it back!!! Surely, the part that is missing from hunting today under the ban could be made up for by day trips to slaughterhouses, surely that would satisfy them?
BrBedeFalconer 4 months ago
This is so exciting. I can't believe it's not legal anymore! Look like so much fun. Just wish Cameron would hurry up and lift the ban.
ilovefoxhunting3142 4 months ago
@ilovefoxhunting3142 yea because its not you thats suffering an agonizing death because of it you selfish piece of shit.
MCshlthead 1 month ago
Stags arent vermin? Its disgusting to hunt a magnificent animal like this for fun. How can anyone enjoy this?? beyond belief. Thank god its banned.
haroldbhoy67 4 months ago
f@#kin tree huggers!!
gavinO668 5 months ago
speedings illegal...but does it stop you...they made it illegal, we're just going to do it more and more, keep hunting!
Coldwellbabes 6 months ago
@Coldwellbabes so your admitting to ilegal hunting and speeding then? moron.
DomSpens 5 months ago
@Coldwellbabes Hunting is fine..but this is cruel.
LauraLovesClint 4 months ago
its alot worse since the ban was imposed.
rhjpink 7 months ago
thats the way foward woop tally hoooo
lrfarmer 9 months ago
you gotta love when dogs start singin and your a pusyy dog hunting will live forever
deerjumper1 10 months ago
When i grow up i want to hunt stag its seems invigorating, even on the internet!!!
CUNTRYFILEKIDDA 10 months ago
great footage
aarondt9 11 months ago
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This is rural life, its as simple as that..... a tradition that will and shall remain long into the futur!
123oly321 1 year ago 5
@123oly321 Thats the spirit! We hunters do more for the wilderness than the damn anti's!
pureprotea1 10 months ago
Oh this makes me feel ill! That poor stag the fear that he must've felt this is evil.... and look how brave he was he tried to fight back he did.... this is shameful
RisingOfThePhoenixx 1 year ago
Thank god this despicable act of wickedness by fat lousy toffs is now illegal in my country. These fould barbarians are destroying our countryside.
AnimalRightsUnited 1 year ago
@AnimalRightsUnited YOU GOT A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN AIDS ,NOW UNBOCK MY FAT ASS ,YOU PUSSY OR YOU GONA KEEP RUNNIN LIKE THE FAGG YOU ARE your ass is mine PEDO
AntisKissMyAss 1 year ago
This is rural life, its as simple as that.
caturn88 1 year ago
@caturn88 No it's not, this is depravity at its best. I live in a rural community and have many friends that would never engage in such acts of despicable wickedness.
AnimalRightsUnited 1 year ago
@AnimalRightsUnited Listen to yourself, granted a rural community has its oddities, but the fact is most are not squeamish and that can clearly be seen in those who take part. Which by all accounts, and this goes back hundreds of years, are most of the village dwellers in the villages that hunt and many who flock from near and far to observe and even participate.
Fact, versus flimsy fiction.
caturn88 1 year ago
@AnimalRightsUnited lol you sleep in the country, sounds like your mind lives in the town. Most people born and raised in the country have some link to hunting in one form or another. not so much nowadays among the younger generations.
cowboyfromkettins 7 months ago
savages pure and simple..!
brummbykj 1 year ago
how did they kill the stag?
rainmaker1213 1 year ago
@rainmaker1213 . they dont kill them. there just let out for the dogs to get a hunt and catch up with them.
brennan2k9 1 year ago
thats great craic good work lads and lassies ha
skylinehr33 1 year ago
why did the men jump on it , were they scared there poor little dogs would get killed , sados
micklfc2008 1 year ago
@DGNreptiles Animals have rights by law and societies like the RSPCA. Early man who hunted for survival is different to modern man who hunts for fun.
colcfc123 1 year ago
LEAVE US ALONE YOU FUCKING WANKERS!!!!!!!!
Tallyho1111 1 year ago
@Tallyho1111 Well Tally Ho off and stop hunting. Otherwise you are fair game
colcfc123 1 year ago
förbannade engelsmänn,, det här är jävlar ingen jakt!!!!
holmebubben 1 year ago
@holmebubben sweden has a long history of hunting with hounds. Especialy hunting hares with beagle type hounds and digging badgers with terreiers of all sorts. This is exacaly the same .... Infact id love to come to your country and see your terriers work badger ... i guess your not goin to offer an invitation tho ...
ChipppyTea 1 year ago
colcfc123 ... i doubt you are a hunt sab. If you was a hunt sab you would know that all those points tacosalad246 has said are true for the UK aswel. Hunting just wouldnt be able to exist if it wasnt for the wildlife management aspect. Deer are hunted and stalked in the UK for this very reason. On the other side the LACS sanctuary were hunting and stalking is over stocked with very very poor deer, in bad condition due to over population.
ChipppyTea 1 year ago
@ChipppyTea Well I am a Hunt Saboteur and always will be. This Clip on you tube is cruel and nasty and is not a humane way to manage Deer population. It is both vile and disgusting. Just an excuse for Ho-ray Henriettas to try to prove what a man they are. Estrogen can be put in food to prevent breeding or even trapping and moving to other areas.
colcfc123 1 year ago
@DGNreptiles These animals dont need to die...
lolatmyaccounts 1 year ago
Hey I'm a hunter I shoot it dead it does not suffer I eat the meat and I agree it is not a sport because you're right it's not fair and this video was sickning to watch anybody who treats an animal this way and gets pleasure from it should be in jail simple concept you kill it quickly and cleanly and use as much of the animal as possible shame you people you sick fucks you give true hunters who have the ideas at heart a bad name
GRAYDOG678 1 year ago
@DGNreptiles What I am saying is that a person who is cruel to animals is more than likely a psychopath who is likely to hurt people. When you say "just having morals what are we with out them no better than animals. We also have a conscience that tells us right from wrong. People who hurt animals are emotionally retarded this makes them unfeeling with no empathy for other creatures and usually social misfits like the kids who shoot up their school. Of course animals have rights
colcfc123 1 year ago
deeply rooted in thier soul and as long as we are breathing and there is game to hunt no legislation or efforts by those who disagree with us will ever stop us from hunting. You had best believe that because its a fact.
tacosalad246 1 year ago
@tacosalad246 You can not call it sport. Sport is a fair competition between two sides example football. Hunting an animal with a big gun or a pack of dogs is not fair, the animal can not win. So it is just Macho bullshit. I am not in Kentucky but stopping animal cruelty is deep rooted in my and many others soul and we will go to great lengths to stop hunting legal or not.
colcfc123 1 year ago
@tacosalad246 I am however really happy to hear about the looking after wild life side. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree about the sport aspect. Thanks for your comments though It gives me food for thought.
colcfc123 1 year ago
rather the time spent enjoying nature. Im not trying to win you over to our side, frankly I dont care what you think, I am just taking a stand for myself and others like me. It makes my blood boil to hear someone who knows virtually nothing about what I do call my ways stupid or backwards, if thats your opinion so be it, but we are far from it. In parting I want you to know that a true hunter a really true hunter who is passionate about the hunt has a yearning to practice our sport that lies
tacosalad246 1 year ago
@tacosalad246 P.S as I found out to make sense of comments start from bottom up
colcfc123 1 year ago
the other side of the argument instead of believing the lies that have been shoved down your throat you would realize hunters aren't cruel savages who want to murder animals but are stewards of the land who want to promote conservation and at the same time do somthing they truly love, that is part of a tradition that has been passed down through the ages. Sure hunters kill, but I think if you actually talked to a hunter, you would find that most hunters do not take pleasure in the kill, but
tacosalad246 1 year ago
@tacosalad246 Very well put. You have given me a lot to think about. I live in London UK and the people who hunt in England are usually rich and hunt for sport, or cruel thugs who go Badger baiting with dogs again for fun. I can see that in Kentucky the responsible hunting parties are helping to preserve the wildlife. However as a practicing hunt saboteur I feel strongly that hunting for the sake of killing is wrong. I will tell you why
colcfc123 1 year ago
have done more to benefit wildlife populations than any anti hunting animal welfare rights activist have ever done, or will do. Hunting is a passion rooted deeply in the souls of many, and hunters will do anything and everything they can to promote hunting and conservation. Remember how I said bears had been eliminated from kentucky many years ago due to irresponsible hunting. Well there making a comeback due to the efforts to restore the bear population. I think if you made an effort to see
tacosalad246 1 year ago
a life or death situation with an animal who wanted to kill you, you would let it. Now we dont have those large predators to manage animals such as deer and elk. The deer and elk populations are booming here and if not properly and responsibly managed as our game law dictates, starvation and disease would cause many animals to die in anguish. Hunters are not the cruel people that you have been led to believe they are. Hunting organizations such as Ducks Unlimited and other conservationist groups
tacosalad246 1 year ago
colfc123. Look in many places around the world the natural selection process and the way it should happen has been thrown off balance due to humans and urbanization. In kentucky before humans began to build homes and town there were natural predators to keep animal populations in check, bears, and mountain lions were abundant here. Once humans came along the predators were killed off to protect livestock and the welfare of humans. After all as a human being you cannot tell me if you were put in
tacosalad246 1 year ago
good argument colcfc123. That was an exemplary showing of you your intelligence! Maybe you feel such compasion and connection with the stag because you are on the same level of intelligence with it. Tell me what would happen if animal populations were not managed... starvation, disease, long painful agonizing deaths. Yes I guess you are right hunting is so cruel. But of course you know everything.
tacosalad246 1 year ago
@tacosalad246 If animals were left alone Natural selection would take place. You know the survival of the fittest to ensure that the strongest animals breed. If you kill them for fun so a few Red Neck Hicks can boast how much of a man they are. You interfere with this and make the animals weaker. If you feel that puts me on the same level as a stag thats fine by me. I think hunting is wrong and cruel .
colcfc123 1 year ago
while this is not the way we would hunt a deer in Kentucky, to each his own. It makes me sick to read post from ignorant people who think they have the best interest in mind. Educate yourself on the subject before you stick your noses where it does not belong. Do you people not reaize how stupid you sound when the best argument you can put up is petty name calling towards hunters? I didnt see any cruelty toward the stag all I observed was it being quickly dispatched bedore it was injured by dogs
tacosalad246 1 year ago
@tacosalad246 Well I think in Kentucky you must either be Retarded or married too many cousins if you think that hunting animals in any way like that is the way that humans should behave. For any normal person to see that and not be disgusted well in the words of Mr T I pity you fool!!! You must be really Fucked up to even think that is ok
colcfc123 1 year ago
That is the biggest clusterfck I have ever seen...
mxrider1988 1 year ago
Wow. I guess it would be OK if dogs, wolves or coyotes just tracked and killed the stag on their own. They eat them alive, you know....starting with the guts. But, since the people are there to slice its throat, that's pretty damn evil.
VenisonFajitas 1 year ago
@VenisonFajitas Well shit for brains The big difference is we are human and we do it for sport not to survive. So if you can’t see the difference your family must stop having sex with cousins…
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123 awwww, wook at the poor widdle animal wights activist resorting to stereotyping and namecalling. yeah, yeah, everybody who eats meat has sex with their cousins. your anger is cute and amusing, bunnyfucker.
VenisonFajitas 1 year ago
@VenisonFajitas You may enjoy Rabbits that way they prob will not feel you fucking them anyway. My anger is justified and righteous. If that is the best sarcasm you can do please save it for your mates. In the words of Oscar Wilde sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and yours is really low.
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123
That wasn't sarcasm; I really was laughing at you.
My mother-in-law used to own 3 sheep until one night a small pack of feral dogs (not wolves or coyotes) got hold of them. They ripped out the guts of each and every sheep. Maybe eating the guts of one but leaving the 2 others to die. This is not a rare occurrence. Please explain to me how this is "for survival" and not "for sport". They were not old or sick sheep, either.
And nice try on the small penis insult. I don't have a penis.
VenisonFajitas 1 year ago
@VenisonFajitas Well the Rabbits would have more fun than you They may even blow away some cobwebs. Your pet sheep have nothing to do with stag hunting dogs on their own will pack. Cats hunt on their own. Humans who hunt do it for sport that is what makes them stupid. i.e not for food just fun. If the dogs were well feed they would not hunt. Humans that are well feed hunt that makes them ugly and have prob not had sex in years if not ever. If they had sex they would not feel the need to kill
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123 Thanks for cracking me up and showing every one your severely flawed logic skills: People who hunt never have sex and yet they are always screwing their cousins.
You still have no answer as to why a pack of dogs would kill animals they have no intention of eating. Oh, right, it must have something to do with their sex lives! Wild/feral cats and other animals also kill animals they have no intention of eating. Must be all the incest going on in the animal kingdom.
VenisonFajitas 1 year ago
@VenisonFajitas Well let me try to explain the basic differences between humans and other animals. Humans have a conscience Well most of us do anyway!! This tells us right from wrong. You know stuff like it is wrong to inflict pain on lesser creatures just cause we can. We should also be able to learn compassion and empathy. These really are very basic instincts. With out them we are no better than Wild animals.
colcfc123 1 year ago
@VenisonFajitas to reply to the pack of dogs killing see my comment on conscience that is what make them animals and us humans. R.E animals and sex I do not know you tell me.
colcfc123 1 year ago
I see nothing wrong with hunting. People need to stay out of other's business. And activists need to eventually realize animals just arent equal to people. We should be humane, but that doesnt mean they should have rights.
misryislonely 1 year ago
@misryislonely
"I see nothing wrong with hunting. People need to stay out of other's business" i suppose you see nothing wrong with Rape and Pedaphilia, hey, its their business, right? Moron.
evilyakko 1 year ago
@evilyakko and @cas45cas45
Uhh, no. Im sorry but comparing sex crimes to hunting is a little illogical. Comparing that to a basic innate activity for every predatory animal is disturbing at best. And save the name calling for fifth grade.
misryislonely 1 year ago
@misryislonely really?you see nothing wrong with pain fear and suffering,would be poetic justice if you came back as a stag.Animals have a right to life your on there land remember and the be humane comment isnt that a bit of a oxymoron?.
cas45cas45 1 year ago
@cas45cas45 Yes, I do see problems with that....when it doesnt serve a purpose. If you go out hunting for the thrill of killing and just dump the bodies, then yeah, you should probably seek help before you move onto killing women and children. That's great, give the "they were here first" speech, but when it comes down to it, that's what predators do. We seek territory and we hunt, that isn't unhumane. The guy who lit my rescue pit bull on fire when he was 8 weeks old is unhumane. Get it? Good.
misryislonely 1 year ago
@misryislonely and exactly what purpose are you serving other than enjoying a piss up cruel sport with your cruel friends.shooting would be a better option but that wouldnt be any fun for you would it?and were not cavemen anymore were pretty civilised no need for barbaric slaughter of innocent animals.and as for your dog well the guy that done that was also a barbaric asshole but sorry i dont see the difference your dog was done and injustice just like thousands of foxes are and your point is???
cas45cas45 1 year ago
@cas45cas45 You're sorely mistaken, bud. Ive never hunted a day in my life, with or without a gun. I simply believe in the RIGHT for others to hunt. Who are you to decide what is right and wrong in the world? Take your lecture elsewhere, maybe to the hyenas in Africa. I hear they eat animals ALIVE! D: But to answer your question, hunting provides people with food, a way to get out natural instincts, and a way to keep populations in check without natural predators :)
misryislonely 1 year ago
@misryislonely like i said hunting is for yesterdays man and purlease they hunt for food?really iv never seen fox on the menu.and if ppls natural instincts are to hunt scare and watch hounds rip apart innocent wildlife then i guess that makes them pretty savage ppl.ah and how nice of the ppl of the country to give mother nature a helping hand and keeping populations down(what a crock of sh.....i think shes pretty good sorting nature herself.
cas45cas45 1 year ago
@cas45cas45 You seem to be misunderstanding me. You're talking specifics, Im talking general. I support hunting, not what I deem acceptable. If you pass legislation supporting the ban of one type of hunting, that can and will be used as leverage to pass bills to ban others you may not have problems with. And you clearly dont understand ecology, if you remove the predators...what happens? Population boom. Id rather be hunted than slowly die of disease or starvation, but that's just me.
misryislonely 1 year ago
@misryislonely Of course animals have rights !! you would not think its ok to beat a dog or cat to death would you?? You can judge a person on the way they treat animals if they are nasty to them you know they will treat you the same way.
colcfc123 1 year ago
A true sportsman is a hunter in the woods without ammo :)
Juillardl 1 year ago
Anyone who ever enlist in stag hunting May the rot in HELL!!!
Grenvilleful 1 year ago
Bloody Antis lets ban thier sport Football a game for idiots and morons, which causes far more disruption and public expense than Hunting. Unlees they form packs for Sab Hunting wouldnt get a decent point though too soft to go for it. So friends come on lets form an Anti Football League
58127myles 1 year ago
@58127myles What the F**k are you talking about. Football is a sport to play or view many people enjoy the sport i.e. the world cup. Football also makes money for people, they go to the pub to see games, they buy flags, shirts, the game also helps keep people fit and helps children learn team work, to name a few good points. Hunting is enjoyed by in bred blood thirsty morons whos idea of a good day out is to rip a poor creature to bits. Well I know what I would rather see. F**k how stupid are U
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123 Isn't a football made out of pig skin?
Juillardl 1 year ago
@Juillardl Na maybe 50 years ago not anymore.
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123 OK thx for that.
Juillardl 1 year ago
@58127myles what because animals get killed from football? i know, lets stop making stupid reasons why mindlessly killing animals for no reason other than pleasure should be legal!! u brain dead cunt!
Mcrussianpricker009 1 year ago
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MrDip02 1 year ago
What the heck is wrong with hunting deer? God, you people have turned into pathetic weaklings!!
Audnorge 1 year ago
there nothing rong with hunting a stag
gypsy842 1 year ago
@gypsy842 humanly, with a gun, no nothing wrong, ripped apart and wrestled by people - plain wrong!
Mcrussianpricker009 1 year ago
@gypsy842 There's nothing wrong with murdering other people?
Juillardl 1 year ago
I couldn't tell you if this is cruel or not, given the terrible camera angle, it sorta looks like a bunch of guys standing in a circle jerking off.....which I believe forms the basis of so much of society within the countryside.
esoxexpress 1 year ago
I've seen worse treatment of humans in burger king - i'd rather have them sort out that rather than waste everyones time stopping something that forms that basis of so much of society within the countryside.
194809 1 year ago
Horrible bastards.
bolloxinator 1 year ago
why dont you find somthing better to do with your time? like catch rapists and dirty bastards who blow themselves up and kill our families?
Cookietheman1234 1 year ago
@Cookietheman1234 How can I catch rapists or terrorists? Talk sense man!! But I can and do stop hunts
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123 by spending your time on something that really matters, get a hobby or something or do something more constructive with your time rather than trying to ruin a tradition because you dont understand it, hunts dont cause you or your family any harm, terrirosts and rapists do so why are you wasting your time?
Cookietheman1234 1 year ago
@Cookietheman1234 You are right hunts do no harm to myself or my family. How ever tradition or not I know right from wrong and hunting is wrong. Plain and simple. Iam sure the slave owners of days past would have spoke of tradition this does not make it right, The same could be said for the Victorian sending children to work or the work house. All this was tradition does that make it right?
colcfc123 1 year ago
@Cookietheman1234 they do, but thast easier said than done...
Mcrussianpricker009 1 year ago
what us cruel about any of this fuck off antis
Cookietheman1234 1 year ago
@Cookietheman1234 If you really can not see what is cruel about this. Then in the words of Mr T " I pity you fool" I have sabotaged many hunts by laying false trails distracting the hounds and making noise and nuisance to stop you. We know you still hunt despite the ban and the Hunt Sabs are still active to stop you.
colcfc123 1 year ago
FUK TH BAN KEEP HUNTING
ikilldeerlots 1 year ago
@ikilldeerlots Fuck the hunt keep sabotaging
colcfc123 1 year ago
The stag is not in distress, wild animals do not have a distress mechanism, they only know fight or flight. The hounds will recover, it is no worse than a rugby match for them, and they absolutely adore it. Imagine a rugby match where everytime you score you get a 5 course michelin meal. I would readily hunt those down that have destroyed this group, of rich and poor hunting folk.
thom616 1 year ago
@thom616 Nonsense every living thing has a fear of death. Being chased by a bunch of thugs with dogs causes distress and fear. The dogs may adore it but the stag is Caused un necessary stress pain and anxiety, in the name of a good sporting day out by blood thirsty scum. I for one would love to hunt those bastards with a pack of dogs and a group of thugs on horse back.
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123 If you'd love to hunt them then you're no better than they are. i.e Hypocrite.
ZeeGreatOne 1 year ago
@ZeeGreatOne Hypocrite !! Na Righteous anger yeah. Karma what goes around comes around nothing hypocritical about that my friend. Just the way the world is. They will get theirs lets hope they feel the same stress as the poor deer
colcfc123 1 year ago
The stag rarely turns on the hounds, part of the skill is to kill the stag when the hounds are baying. The last half of the that video the stag is dead, it dies within 5 seconds of the men getting therer, within a milli-second of the bolt-gun or broad sword killing it.
thom616 1 year ago
If you think this is ok. Then you are a nasty bastard! or a Toffee nosed public school type who think killing animals is your right wot wot, You have the same view of the working class. i.e. lets keep the bastards down wot wot
colcfc123 1 year ago
I support the Hunting Act 2004 which banned this disgusting so-called 'sport.' I am up against a Tory, Mr James Paice, who has said that he will vote to repeal the Act. This will 'un-ban' this disgusting so-called 'sport.' Shame on him and other Tories like him. Geoffrey Woollard, Independent candidate for South East Cambridgeshire.
FENBANK 1 year ago
i think the humans got in there pretty quickly and killed the deer cleanly before the dogs did too much damage so good work to the hunting community
MrChanman20 1 year ago 2
What kind of inbred.... White Trash, TRAILOR PARK dwelling, TOOTHLESS.... CHEW SPITTING, sister screwing SHIT did I stumble upon?
Are fucking 150 dogs necessary to kill ONE stag? Isn't this VERY dangerous to the dog?
I have no problem if someone uses dogs to hunt foul or coon but this is DANGEROUS to the DOG. Should be banned.
TheMango121 1 year ago
This is a style of hunting it is not unethical.. how is this bad? Are a vegetarion? because if you are then your worse because plants have absolutly no way to defend themselves against you horrible killer all the plant wanted to do was go throught the stages of photosnythesis but no, you had to go and rip it from the bround and eat it, plants are alive too
misswarpants 1 year ago
not very fair hunting practice . I mean if your going to hunt for food thats fine with me but this is done for the "sport" of it , bunch of folks dressed in their traditional garb with their hounds chasing down some poor unlucky animal to its death . Anyone who would partake in this has no compassion for other creatures . I for one respect all creatures . This is just wrong
mycatwilatackyou 1 year ago
their is no hurting scene ... an animal is taken by a human and it s a natural thing ! Human is on the top of the food chain.
What is shocking you ?
can't understand ... Do you prefer battery chicken ?
or are you simply "vagans" who want to dict your way of life ?
fishmax 1 year ago
@fishmax
@fishmax
If you don't see, what is shocking in the video, you are blind. The stag is chased by A LOT OF dogs. The stag came to a STREET, where MANY people and riders are waiting for him. He had to stop: there was no possibility for him to flee further. So he tried to defend his life by attacking the dogs but he had no chance against all the dogs. Than three or four hunters came and killed him - with a knife I think.
This is VERY unfair! Humans needn't eat meat!
natija08 1 year ago 2
@natija08
Ah, i see, you re a "Vegan " and try to convert people to your way of life, like TALIBAN
Hunt is a natural thing.
And if some of us had created PCs, it s only because their ancestor killed and eaten meat.
If you don't accept your human condition , suicide !
What about the million of children who fish shells on the million beaches of the world ? want you ban them too ???
Stupid ideologist
fishmax 1 year ago
@fishmax
Tell me, please, which of my statements sounded like a Taliban's statement?
Where did I mentioned, that people, who don't believe what I do, have to be killed?
Where did I appeal for violence?
It seems to me rather in such a way, as if hunters have an inclination to violence, not only against animals, but also against people.
natija08 1 year ago
@natija08
Ah, i see, you re a "Vegan " and try to convert people to your way of life, like TALIBAN
Hunt is a natural thing.
And if some of us had created PCs, it s only because their ancestor killed and eaten meat.
If you don't accept your human condition , suicide !
What about the million of children who fish shells on the million beaches of the world ? want you ban them too ???
Stupid ideologist
fishmax 1 year ago
@fishmax Hunt to eat is a natural thing. Hunt for sport makes you a WANKER
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123
What do you think they do after keep this animal ? they eat it, of course ...
better than battery chicken or Mac Donald's shit !
fishmax 1 year ago
@fishmax The poor deer is ripped to shreds by the dogs not much eating there.
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123 The deer isnt ripped to shreds at all. the only place were the dogs have hold is it head
cazteamgossip 1 year ago
@colcfc123 how about hunting for population control? how about hunting to keep the deer from killing themselves and every other species in an ecosystem?!?? how about that? how about preventing the deer from being so malnourished that they can no longer walk and are infested with parasites? then, when they are on the brink of death, rodents crawl in their body cavities (their ass in this case) and create nests out of their intestine linings? IS THAT ETHICAL?!?! Get a grip on yourself man.
Afliss92 1 year ago
@Afliss92 Of course it is That is natural selection natures way. To hunt for sport is cruel and barbaric and is just a excuse for a bunch of toffee nosed gits to get together and kill animals with dogs. What Nasty Bastards.
colcfc123 1 year ago
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@natija08
Ah, i see, you re a "Vegan " and try to convert people to your way of life, like TALIBAN
Hunt is a natural thing.
And if some of us had created PCs, it s only because their ancestor killed and eaten meat.
If you don't accept your human condition , suicide !
What about the million of children who fish shells on the million beaches of the world ? want you ban them too ???
Stupid ideologist
fishmax 1 year ago
the LACS is a joke, a fundamental group clearly misguided in its understanding of nature. how many directors have you forced out of your league for stating that a total ban would be detrimental to the environment? even though they were just as worried about animal welfare as you? at least five ex LACS directors have said that a ban on hunting would be wrong. they came to this conclusion after studying the facts. i suggest that anybody who wants to debate the point sensibly does the same.
morgasm657 1 year ago
These hunters hunt to have FUN (what kind of fun that is is another question).
It's really disgusting!
natija08 1 year ago
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morgasm657 1 year ago
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@natija08 well the thing is...who are you calling a hunter? are you calling all the followers hunters? because they are not, they are simply mounted followers of the hunt. the dogs and huntmaster along with any marksmen are the hunters. and its a job not just a sport to them.
morgasm657 1 year ago
im sorry, but empathy for animals is different. I could get all scientific and educated and teach you all about k selected species (humans) and how they are genetically designed to treat the individual as valuable. and R selected species (deer) which are genetically predisposed to losing a large portion of their offspring/population to predators. I could go on, but you won't ever listen so i won't. i will tell you this, if you truly care about animals, don't judge by human morals. go by nature
Afliss92 1 year ago 2
@Afliss92 What a wanker you are!! As humans we have (or some of us) Developed a conscious i.e. right and wrong. To cause creatures that have less intelligence than ourselves pain and distress just because you can in the name of SPORT surly shows that you are thugs, bullies and Shite people with no thought. Every living creature fears death, For you to hunt and kill for sport makes you a Wanker. FACT
colcfc123 1 year ago
seriously, why? its a hunt. The dogs are bread to hunt like a pack. once the animal is down, they take it away. It is actually less gruesome than most of the WILD hunts conducted just by wild animals.
Afliss92 1 year ago
"wild hunts conducted just by wild animals" WTF? It's natural for animals to hunt and kill . But this is not nature. This is a scenario created by man wherby dumb animals are subjected to inhumane and sick cruelty and barbarism by a bunch of morons who get their kicks from the spilling of blood. Disgusting and uncivilised behaviour.
attilius7 1 year ago
you seem to forget that we are as much animals as deer or dogs. You cannot fairly elevate us above any other species of animal. Humans are organisms designed to use our brains to hunt. You cant ask a man who is in touch with his own nature to disregard the primal instincts that drive both the "sick" humans that you see here and the wild animals you may see out your window. To do so would be like asking all humans on earth to forget sex. some may be able to do it, but not all can.
Afliss92 1 year ago
@Afliss92 Humans have also developed a conscious i.e. sense of right and wrong your argument suggests we have no control over our instincts. If that is the case then the genocide that has happened in Rwanda is excusable as they are only behaving as nature intended. By the same argument if a gang of people beat you up in the street and stole your belongings. That is ok because we are natural predators with no conscious.
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123 You aren't even arguing against my points XD do you even understand what i'm writing? or am i just a Wanker who isn't worth your precious time? I CARE MORE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE. Did the bold help? I love the wild. I love the animals, but in order to maintain a stable ecosystem we have to keep the number of deer down. Without the natural predators that people like YOU removed, humans are the only ones left to keep the numbers from spiraling out of control.
Afliss92 1 year ago
@Afliss92 Sorry how have I removed natural predators? Maybe I do not understand your points so please Explain it to me. I am sure you are very intelligent and I meant no offence with my comments. But I simply question why we need to cull animals. Surly nature will take care of this for us.
colcfc123 1 year ago
@colcfc123 Yes nature will take care of this for us. But in the way i listed in my previous comment. Humans have removed the natural predators(wolves, etc...) from the environment because they were killing live stock. With out these predators, the only animal left to keep the balance and prevent what i previously stated are humans. I meant no offense to you either. I am glad we are now having a civilized debate. It just bothers me when people are ignorant to the true inner workings of the world.
Afliss92 1 year ago
@Afliss92 Good point I must say I had not thought of that . I must admit you have given me food for thought . I still do not like hunting with hounds! but you have a strong point. As you well say there are no predators left. I will have to think about this. I am a London person born and bred, I dislike cruelty that hunting with dogs is but I need to think about what you have said to give you a worthy answer
colcfc123 1 year ago
@attilius7 this is simply a tried and tested way of getting a meal, humans have been doing it for a very long time. in my opinion this kind of hunting is acceptable, but i prefer the use of guns and fast sight hounds for deer rather than slow scenting dogs. simply because the deer suffers more stress over a prolonged hunt than a fox or hare does. but even so the amount of stress is still minimal, depending on the animals previous experiences.
morgasm657 1 year ago
why is this upsetting?
Afliss92 1 year ago
Canallas aburridos!! es terrible, como el toreo y todo lo que el ser humano inventó para torturar a los animales.
patagoniensis 2 years ago
Don't worry folks, without the hunt the farmers and poachers will soon shoot out the remaining deer in a more proletarian way. The LACS will soon have its dream of a country with no animals in it at all!
Morriarty100 2 years ago
im sorry, but you are severely misinformed. if you were to do your research you would see that populations of deer living in areas open to hunting are healthier than those living in wildlife refuges. often the animals if the "refuge" die of starvation, parasite, and disease. all due to overpopulation. in reality, hunting keeps the majority of deer in an area healthier and prevents them from damaging the environment. try getting outside some time. you might learn something
Afliss92 1 year ago 2
@Morriarty100 Not if A.L.F gets the farmers and poachers first.
colcfc123 1 year ago
great looking stag, and some well bred hounds too, a credit to the master of the hunt.
it was a sad day when hunting was temporarily banned in Britain. i think someone needs to look into the prosecution details stated at the end of the film as they are incorrect, the actual number charged an successfully prosecuted is much lower/
11frenchy 2 years ago 2
Were you actually saying anything at all in that comment?
At least you managed to post something without the crazy hehehes that you're so well known for - that's a start.
You know the reason why hunting is still legal? Why it will be so difficult to ban? It's mainly down to people like yourself who are completely nuts, that make a mockery of a perfectly valid anti-hunting view.
There are lots of you around, and as a result, people take your argument less seriously. Learn from Ken.
limeboyguy 2 years ago
You're the only one saying I'm clever. I'll take that as a compliment. You're also the only one who was mocking people for their illiteracy.
I was just pointing out that yours wasn't good enough to be laughing at people. That hardly makes me a potential candidate for Mensa Presidency.
As I said, leave debates to those who do not ridicule their own beliefs, like kenneth. Maybe slating him was a little foolish too.
You're just spitting idiocy, and he is actually saying something.
limeboyguy 2 years ago
@SilentScream
Hang on, hang on; what's this about? WHERE have I "run to the other side"? I am 100% opposed to blood sports - full stop. Quote me a single comment of mine that says something different.
940kenneth 2 years ago
Please refer to Kenneth for what a sane conversation looks like. Also one that doesn't do more harm to your cause than good.
Take note that you said that you never said you were more literate, then proceeded to call people stupid hillbilly hicks who can't spell.
Can you not see that this is an enormous contradiction? That your 'hehehe' also looks more than a little crazy?
limeboyguy 2 years ago
You've called me a dumb ass, cretin and tard, when you have the literacy of a 9 year old.
The only reason I'm picking this up, is because I found it amusing that you were calling everyone else stupid, when your personal education is clearly lacking. This would make you the stupid cretin, in your own words.
This has little to do with the actual topic on here, more just your unstable ranting. You are doing your cause no good.
limeboyguy 2 years ago
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940kenneth 2 years ago
Actually, you can find out as much as Silent Scream knows about me by just reading my comments Kenneth.
I was just reading some of the comments, agreeing with both sides, when I saw SS throwing abuse about different people's literacy.
I just found it amusing that someone who was so illiterate was using the same topic to attack everyone.
If you read the comments, I also said that SS's ranting and abuse only damages a fair argument. She should leave the discussion to people who are stable
limeboyguy 2 years ago
Apologies, if I have misgauged the situation.
SilentScream clearly feels as strongly on this subject as I do.
Not sure how you can agree with both sides on this issue?
940kenneth 2 years ago
Not at all - that's fine.
I feel strongly about certain issues myself, but don't necessarily believe it's black and white.
I support hunting for food, but find the idea of killing for 'sport' distasteful.
Any killing for food (or pest control) should be done as humanely as possible. As I am not a vegetarian, I find it better an animal lives a good life, then dies instantly than one reared with the sole intention of slaughter.
Crazy ranting does not help a humane argument.
limeboyguy 2 years ago
Be assured, I am not closed-minded: I was not born with an innate disgust at the kind of obscenity characterized by the content of this video; it is something that results from my assessment of it.
I think I have to ask myself the question: Is it morally defensible to derive voyeuristic enjoyment from suffering and death? This video does not represent a utilitarian necessity; it is deemed to be 'sport'. What kind of sport authentically involves suffering and death?
I think you and I agree here.
940kenneth 2 years ago
You're not wrong Kenneth.
It is frustrating for me as although I thoroughly support hunting, I find calling it a sport distasteful.
The problem for me lies that anyone against can agree, whereas those for can not.
Any body that supports hunting has to be united on the hunting and sport sides, in order to present a more powerful argument.
This is a shame, as it leaves those of us who hunt for food and pest control between a rock and a hard place.
limeboyguy 2 years ago
have fun banning hound hunting antis!! suck my d!ck whilst your at it!!!
jooock668 2 years ago
Excellent kill, should have turned the dogs on the antis as well!!
timlaz 2 years ago
@SilentScream
Thanks.
Who is limeboy?